My Top 10 Strategy Games For 2024
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- I am not including any projects I have personal stakes in because that would be a conflict of interest. This is just a list of games I am personally excited to play.
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Frostpunk 2 - store.steampowered.com/app/16...
Stormgate - store.steampowered.com/app/20...
Cataclismo - store.steampowered.com/app/14...
Age of Mythology: Retold - www.ageofempires.com/games/aom/
Tempest Rising - store.steampowered.com/app/14...
Outpost: Infinity Siege - store.steampowered.com/app/15...
Dust Front - store.steampowered.com/app/26...
Homeworld 3 - store.steampowered.com/app/18...
Sins of a Solar Empire 2 - store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/s...
Last Train Home - store.steampowered.com/app/14...
DORF - store.steampowered.com/app/23...
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Citations and Video Sources:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/... - Hry
If you're confused about any titles not being on the list: I am not including any projects I have personal stakes in because that would be a conflict of interest, and I am excluding games that seem to have fairly stalled development. Ideally the titles here will all be playable soon!
I mean, I still see AoM there
>goes to ask
>makes sure I am not breaking the rules after seeing rules
y no Sanctuary ?
...To explain. It's a spiritual successor to Supreme Commander and Planetary Annihilation.
#GiantGrantEthics
I came to the comments because I was shocked that a certain other RTS I'm following didn't make the list, but your decision makes perfect sense. Either way, can't wait for it to come out, and I'm sure we'll see it featured here (with self-interest disclosed, of course) when it arrives!
Hey Granny Manny Shmanny my CZcams icon allstar and fren from Altalantis. Have you ever heared of Godsworn, its a Warcraft III/ AOE 2 like medival strategy game in development, it looks really good.
Grant, have you ever considered making a video covering Grey Goo? I think it'd make an interesting video, talking about what it did right or wrong although it ultimately flopped.
Thank you for the coverage! We plan on releasing some more videos showing off some new features relatively soon, since we've got a bit more of the Factorio-like logistics gameplay locked in, and we just added a prototype for a new dynamic lighting system, which allows the game to have fully 3D lighting and shadowing, despite everything being 2D sprites.
Also btw, we are no longer just a 2-man team; we picked up a third developer late last year.
Just wanna say , DORF is also at my top 1 spot for my personal strategy hype list . Keep the good work :D
it looks really cool! I'm interested so see where you're headed.
cant wait for the double pump crack that I craved when 2 of my favorite game combined to 1 looking forward your future endeavors and release date on your game devs
Sehr gut. Vom Dorf.
Stay calm and keep doing what you're doing. Take all the time you need until you feel it's just right.
Hi, this is Team Ranger making Outpost: Infinity Siege. Thank you for the coverage! We've released brand new trailer with more game-play show and the exact launch date. Coming soon on March 26!! Hope you'll enjoy the game!!!
Thanks for the coverage! We're thrilled to see Cataclismo among such incredible games. Also, we're super happy that you enjoyed the demo and our approach to the brick-by-brick building mechanics. Hope you like the full version as well ^^
I didnt know at all this game before this video! Im definetly gonna wishlist it
Edit :
You made a demo you goats! This is the kind of things that i love to see in the videogames industry. I ll be playing cataclismo this afternoon ❤
@@macanudo6206 Same here!
Looks to be right down my alley.
I am so excited for this game it looks amazing
Your game looks fantastic. I think it might patch a Castle Story shaped hole in my heart.
love your game!
0:29 Frostpunk 2
1:59 Stormgate
3:25 Cataclismo
4:56 Age of Mythology: Retold
6:23 Tempest Rising
7:56 Outpost Infinity Siege
9:18 Dust Front
10:03 Homeworld 3
10:58 Sins of a Solar Empire 2
12:47 Last Train Home
14:24 D.O.R.F Real-Time Strategic Conflict
Like I thought, top 9
Tempest Rising seems like Tiberium Wars....
HNGGGGGGGGGGGG.
Thank you! This should be obligatory on all list videos.
That being said, I guess that's why these timestamps were placed in the description:
Timestamps:
0:00 - Video Begins
16:10 - Video Ends
lol
Jumping on the top 10 click bait train without time stamps is pure sin
the hero we didn't want, but the one we need
I'm just popping in to reinforce that Frostpunk is an absolutely incredible gaming experience and that Frostpunk 2 is definitely my most anticipated game of the year. Something I notice is that a lot of people have games in their library that seemingly exist just to proverbially stress them out for extended periods of time, yet they'll find it enjoyable or even relaxing. Frostpunk is one of my personal favorites because you're just stunlocked in an evil video game Sisyphean loop of "Okay we were struggling, but I think our city is back on tra--" before the game throws the 47th consecutive steel chair at you, and I love every second of it.
The City Must Survive.
I just recently got into Frostpunk after sleeping on it for years. And i loved it ever since.
also your videos are great.
nice to see you here
is frostpunk an RTS? it's a city builder isn't it
Nice to see you back Mr. Funface
@@frozenfeet4534 It's pretty much a pausable RTS, as if you want to win, you need to be smart and strategic
Tempest Rising getting Frank Klepacki to do the soundtrack is the smartest thing I can think of if they want to capture that CnC feel. He's the John Williams to Spielberg here. The music for Red Alert 2 is still on my playlist a quarter century later.
Might have to port the music into dorf as well
You're missing the biggest one... Beyond All Reason! It's an open source Total Annihilation / Supreme Commander style RTS in a modern engine that handles way more units and players. 8v8 is the standard match size and I have seen replays of 25 vs 25 players. It has 2 complete factions, at least one more in the works, and in it's current unoptimized state can handle 4000 to 5000 units without lag.
It's exactly what it says on the tin:
Beyond All Reason
This!
This is the game you think of, when you say RTS!
Thank you for bringing BAR up!
Hope GGG will pick up on us :D
@BeyondAllReason its a matter of time
omg just looked it up is looks way too amazing to be real XD
Hi Grant! Commenting again because I am unsure if the last one was eaten by CZcams. Thanks for featuring Outpost: Infinity Siege, I am a moderator over there on their Discord, so if you want to get some more information on the game I can patch you through to the community manager if you haven't already!
Hi, can you link the discord here? I know I can probably just search it up but it would be more convenient for other comments to join up if they see it here.
@@iRradiantRayne Hi Rayne, sadly I can't link to it due to comment restrictions, but you'll find the link on the steam store page!
The return of RTS games is a fantastic turn of events for those of us who grew up in the late 90s and 00s during the genre's golden age.
Am excited to see what titles will see in the coming years.
Yeah, But I want them on a DVD disk. And I want to play them on a computer that is not connected to the Internet. And I want to install them offline. So if I need to log in to Steam to play my game, then I will not pay more, than 10 USD for it. Buying it on Steam is not owning it, as if Steam goes down you can not play it...
u do know u can play games offline on steam right? i understand the whole ownership thing but this is just how the times are now. Steam is not EA or Ubisoft or BS like that. Also there is pretty much no way that steam is going to die entirely as a service, its too big to fail. @@h2835
Bro im born in 2000 and i love rts more than anything there is huge number of players starving for good stratgey and rts but greedy AAA and AA left us for no reason glad to see we are saved by indies and true gamers
@@h2835bro take it easy some you can get it dvd but not all those are very few devs with very low budget dvds cost money so by time maybe and when did steam ever shutdown more than an hour i mean its an hour not the end if the life
Grant when presenting ZeroSpace: I can't talk about other RTS much, since i'm involved with one and we'll be competing.
Also Grant: Generously applies (healthy) criticism to upcoming strategy games.
With regard to the small dev team on DORF, ill say this: one of my favorite games of all time, Starsector, also is an indie game, and has 4 developers. When I got it it was a bit small, had its rough corners but also some really cool concepts. Now? It is an expansive, moddable universe with huge player freedom that feels smooth to play and is my all time favorite game. That took 10 years. So. The small dev team will definitely mean DORF takes time to come into its own, but I hope that it too can become something absolutely amazing
Falling Frontier is another indie Space RTS which for much of it's development cycle was the work of one man. The game has had many delays but the developer was able to secure a sponsor and the game play looks amazing. So many video games suck because the Developers cut corners, make promises that they can't keep and then don't spend enough time perfecting the gameplay and ironing out all the bugs before bringing their game to market. So if you have a game being made by a small number of people who are proud of their creation and aren't bound to some mega corporation then you can actually get a decent game that surpasses all expectations and actually lives up to the hype. True Works of Art can't be rushed and are well worth the wait.
I think we should include Sanctuary: Shattered Sun. Spiritual successor to Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander
Sanctuary sadly will not be coming out this year.
Sanctuary will absolutely be on the list for next year! But the odds that we're going to get out hands on it in 2024 seems very low so I decided to save it.
Completely agree on this. It’s the game I’m most looking forward to besides Zerospace
@@bill_the_butcher Or go download Beyond All Reason and play a current day Total Annihilation right now.
@@bill_the_butcher We already had one actual successor and it wasn't great. I'm keeping my expectation low for IA until it comes out.
I'm honestly looking forward to the future of RTS as far as I can see things are looking up
Homies got the smite jorm card art
there hasn't been a good RTS since SC2, except beyond all reason which is so niche it makes supcom approachable. at least supcom had a pretty well-made and lengthy campaign for the gamerdads to 10 APM their way through.
idiots have been making videos like this one for a decade right here on youtube. "my list of 20 upcoming RTS that are coming up soon totally going to be awesome" and then they all turn out not to release or to be crap. this one is no different, except that it's smart enough not to pretend that RTS are back but that "strategy" (real-time not necessarily included) is, uhhhh, well the games are making him excited to play them! sure, sure. remember GREY GOO? remember ashes of the singularity? spellforce 3? ancestor legacy? starship troopers terran command? that one just came out with massive franchise recognition and it still barely blipped on the radar. also it sucked ass, making even C&C4 look deep, and completely failed to deliver on its aesthetic, by underplaying it instead of hamming it up like they should've. but I digress. the list goes on and on and on and they're all, at best, the definition of "mid", not an original thought or exceptionally executed mechanic to make them noteworthy among them. and all of them are only ever mentioned in lists like this video's pre-release, completely forgotten about as soon as they come out.
SupCom released in 2007. It was the last time RTS tried to do something exciting, expanding its scale. Beyond all reason is just supcom but more refined. Starcraft 2 released in 2010, which was the last time a RTS came out that was remotely mainstream. And then they stopped making them.
All these shitty newer games just look like games from the year 2000 but worse than the releases back then. Good on the solo developers and other indies for releasing these projects, but as a consumer it's absolute fucking drek and not "looking up" at all.
@@MrCattlehunterFinally a good comment. RTS is so underdeveloped it is criminal. I blame the low IQ of audiences and developers alike. SupCom (1) and SC2 were the last great games in the genre. Beyond All reason had some potential but then they designed the games as a playmobile with hideous zoomer-fortnite-vomit-colours and only 2 (same playing) factions.
The only hope is sanctuary: Shattered sun - even though it is just the actual SupCom 2.
@@MrCattlehunter Age of empires 4 dude, that is litteraly in the top 3 rtses of all time.
@@MrCattlehunter Christ alive, they didn't ham it up enough in Terran Command? wtf are you on about? The game wasn't deep, but it added enough mechanics level-to-level to keep pretty engaging, and they hammed it up so fucking much.
How about Diplomacy Is Not An Option? Or is something not being a multi-billion dollar e-sports fuckfest enough to disqualify it from all popularity, despite selling 150-250k copies
How about Battlefleet Gothic? Or does that not count because it's not a "real rts", despite selling 750,000 copies
Halo Wars 2? Not my cup of tea, but it's had a pretty loyal playerbase for a while
They are Billions sold more than 1.5 million copies, or is that not an RTS because it's not multiplayer?
Sins of a Solar Empire?
Northgard?
Honorable mention: Dawn of War: Ultimate Apocalypse
Dude, you're either just a massive snob, extremely exclusionary on what an "RTS" is, or genuinely blind. Just because something isn't as popular as SC, doesn't mean it failed, or that it was tiny. RTS' were just fucking massive back in the day, able to launch whole franchises, they've gone from industry shaking behemoths to just another genre.
I cant wait to see someone play dorf to see more of the gameplay. As how it looks like now it really gives me red alert 2 vibes just ticked up to 15 on crazy units.
I do hope that it feels as good to play as how fun the units look right now in it.
I'm very much interested in the singleplayer and also the co-op aspect of strategy games and I'm hopeful that the extensive line-up will succesfully cater to that
Another game I've got my eye on is Industrial Annihilation, an RTS where you also build a Satisfactory level faktory to power your industry, while you play the game and mikro your units (don't think its koming out in 2024 however)
As an avid Satisfactory and C&C fan, this sounds very promising. You also should check out Mindustry, a small indie game with a similar promise: mainly factory and tower defense game with solid RTS mechanics.
Great video Giant, the last train home can be very good, after updates for fps and bugs. Finally something about history of my country.
Took a couple of titles from this list that immediately went on my wishlist. Checking back on your channel I just saw that your last video completely flew under my radar so I will have to catch up on that one. Love seeing the RTS genre getting so many new and interesting after being called "ded" for so long.
Always happy to hear you be excited :D
Thanks for the list, I hadn't heard about a few of these and I'm excited for cataclismo! Also heard your commentary on AGDQ It was cool to hear a live cast from ya, good work!
Thanks for the love towards Cataclismo! Hope you enjoy the demo if you give it a shot ^^
great video Grant and with that, I shall watch the age of mythology video again because for some reason, listening to your videos while trying to sleep is like a cheat-code for me getting easy, good sleep, some people have thunderstorms before bed, some listen to music but I listen to Grant :^) (make more Starcraft 2 challenge videos I can only relisten to them so many times)
I'm also looking forward to 9 bit armies, everything to scratch that cnc itch :D
All in all, if the strategy game year 2024 turns out to be only half as good as promised, we're in for some good time! I'd like to see the games we've seen, even if only as introductory vods, when played by you, Grant, with or without deathlessness ;)
Glad to see you posting. I know it's hard to do challenge runs because at one point you run out of them. Keep on doing
Will definitely be keeping an eye on Cataclismo, and i had no idea it existed before this video!
I love They are Billions to death and it is legitimately one of my favorite RTSs ever due to the solely PvE aspect, addictive gameplay loop and steampunk aesthetic. If it's anything like it, and holds up just as well? I like forward to sinking just as many hours into this as well!
AND I CANNOT WAIT FOR DORF I WANT TO PLAY IT AAAAAA
Thanks for the love, and hope you enjoy playing the demo if you give it a try!
@@DigitalSunGames Just installed it and plan on trying it soon, and wow I wasn't expecting to get a comment from the devs!
Thanks for the encouragement, and definitely looking forward to seeing where you guys take this game!
industrial annihilation looks really neat, it’s basically supreme commander factorio
beyond all reason has a fun alpha, it’s very similar to supreme commander as well
IA is more like PA + factorio
PA wanted to be more like TA, low key achieved a lot of similarities and feels, but only halfway through.
Sup Com is far better spiritual successor to TA than PA or IA.
BAR is lowkey TA remake, which is why it feels so similar to Sup Com, as Sup Com was the first de-facto spiritual successor to TA.
Also
@@Thadeas Nothing lowkey about BAR, it's so very much alike TA and it's awesome! :D
I really need a Supreme Commander 3 (Or spiritual successor) that follows the recipe that Forged Alliance Forever community has now built!
@@PluvioZA In case you hadn't heard of it since the comment, check out Sanctuary Shattered Sun, it might be hitting that Supreme Commander niche pretty damn well.
This is a neat list. It's cool to see so much variety in visuals and gameplay. I'm also struck by how many strategy games are being made by tiny teams. Manor Lords just came out on early access and that was made by one guy too.
I wasn't previously interested in D.O.R.F but actually you have convinced me, I'm looking forward to seeing more of it now.
Age of Mythology retold, Stormgate and Tempest Rising look amazing!
i love your Age of Mythology video
have watched it at least 3 times already
loved the game growing up and agree with that video
we will have to see how these games go
have already had a lot of fun watching Pravus play "Last Train Home"
the name made me think it was some sort of Frostpunk mod or expansion, but this game was still very fun to watch
2:31 that's all you had to say, i will try that game out now.
My personal issue with RTS is how hard it is for a casual player to get into the game, you star and there are just so many numbers and things happening at the same time that it's easy to just get lost.
Starcraft campaign have a bit of that but it's way more tame compared to some games on this list tho, still, i'm curious to see and try some of those games.
I will get Frostpunk 2 because i loved the first one, even if the second game seems to add way more numbers tho, and i might try the DORF one, who knows, it might be nice.
Actually... It's not true.
MOBA games requires a lot, a lot more knowledge to get you going and you can end up with needing to know 9 new units after first game, and then again similar experience... And yet genre became quite popular.
RTS was most popular genre on PC for a while and while obviously nowadays it's not even close to that status it says enough about hard hard is to get into a genre that was the most popular one. Which means, it's not that hard at all.
A lot of what makes RTS hard to get into is stuff that translates well from one game to another. More RTS games means more people understanding RTS
@@andrzejnadgirl2029 i didn't say RTS was the most difficult thing to start, i said it was hard for a casual like me to start, that's all
Man i must be pretty lucky I discovered and watched half of our videos yesterday and was like. Man I really wish he had made a video with some rts recomendations. Low and behold the next day !
Looking forward to Frostpunk 2 for sure. Played the first one a lot this winter, all bundled up as the snow fell outside. Some of the most immersed I’ve ever felt in a game.
Watch now or watch after i got some sleep?... Watch now.
Edit: Is the Tempest Sphere an anti-deathball death ball?
Did you survive the 16 minute delay to sleep? Don't play with your health kids!
8:44 Battlezone was freaking great! I wish there were more games like it.
The game that got me into this genre is Age of Wonders 4. I can’t praise that game enough. The thing is games like this are usually too overwhelming for the average player with just the sheer scope and mechanics of strategy games but AOW 4 didn’t feel like that and has kept me engaged way more than I thought it would
I never promote my stuff but since I'm a huge fan Grant what's the harm in a shameless plug... I made a free Dune2/C&C inspired tiny RTS called Eudora a few years back and have been working on a major sequel but it's on the backburner r/n. Very interested in Tempest Rising obviously no matter how creatively bankrupt it may seem on the surface (guilty of doing this myself) it's like they know exactly what we want. As an aside I'm often mystified that Petroglyph keeps making RTS games as well, they're going to be releasing a sequel to 8-Bit armies soon which should have been an honorable mention on this list! Also DORF looks astounding, like KKND and RA2 smashed together!
Beyond all reason is worth a look. Total annihilation successor I believe.
I'm seriously lookin forward to Stormgate for the 3v3 focus. I love team RTSes and playing 3v3 with my friends in a game designed for it sounds incredibly fun
Dude truly thank you for breaking me out of my self-inflicted singleplayer RTS bubble. I appreciate it greatly 🙏
And it's from the same guy I watched for the review of Crimson as well, somehow. How unexpected
@@RoboLamp My pleasure :D
Holy! Cataclismo looks like the improved old "Castle story" which had a great concept and was special in it's way, but devs failed to finished it.
I'm so hyped to play it! Thx.
Out of curiosity, have you heard of the game "Battle For Wesnoth"? its a free open source game on steam, and it has a similar style of gameplay to fire emblem or advance wars.
Last Train Home and Cataclismo are 2 games I didn't know I wanted. I have been looking forward to Frostpunk 2 and Homeworld 3 for years now.
Also, you gotta Play Homeworld and Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak.
deserts of kharak sucked lol what
Glad you liked Cataclismo!
That is not a helpful comment as it just states an opinion. I liked and and found the prequel great for some entertainment @@frozenfeet4534
Thank you for this superb video! I'm going to put a lot of them on my wishlist! I've also heard about Crown Wars, by the way, it looks great, it's set in the medieval period, it should be out soon I think.
I left rts for years but Beyond All Reason (BAR) brought me back in 2023, a free sequel to total annihilation and supreme commander from dedicated devs with a working online lobby system. I wanted to recommend it here, because it offers PVE and PVP and I'm in love with the game design and the fact that it's easily playabe and completly free.
I like some games listed in the video, but it's a huge relief to see my favorite rts design alive and well and despite beeing around for a while and feeling complete, BAR will get a lot more updates.
Thank you ♥!
I have high hopes for yet another game: Falling Frontier. Looks incredible and very complex. Although I don't know if we can expect it in 2024
Really hoping Falling Frontier meets expectation, cause damn it looks nice.
@@sekh765 Yeah, me too. I'm rarely getting "cautiously optimistic" these days (I assume, often incorrectly, that most projects will be crap), but this one I really want to be good. It's being made by like one or two people, so while they have clarity of vision, I'm afraid of the amount of manpower required. We'll see.
Me too
I totally agree with your top pick, I can't wait for DORF and I am so glad they decided to ignore multiplayer balance or Esports, which I feel are the bane of developers everywhere, as they gimp the rest of the game in order to try to reach that fabled Esport Nirvana, and simply end up destroying their product and work as a result. I don't want perfectly balanced units that make everything in a multiplayer matchup with guys with 600 APM viable ! I want giant, overpowered super units, flying tanks, guns the size of skyscrappers ! Give me the rule of cool damn it !
Also, interestingly enough, with DORF and Industrial Annihilation, there seems to be some interest in automation game and RTS hybrids, and I'm wondering what you think about that ? Because personally I absolutely LOVE the concept.
Awesome! Didn't even know about the Last Train Home.
And I was born in Czechoslovakia. :D
A game concept I've recently been interested in but never seen realised is an RTS where you design you own unit pre-sets in a space engineers style, with PCU being similar to supply, complete with having your own miners or harvesters and even scraping ships to fuel the economy, while you build up your own custom designed fleet. Biggest problem I would anticipate is the resource intensity to run it and actually being able to control the ships effectively while still having the design be important to the outcome.
Just a curious and not at all thought through idea
I'm glad DORF is starting the hype train for RTS fans, the OpenRA engine is definitely underrated and love that its getting attention.
I'm hoping for C&C fans the Combined Arms mod gets more attention too. Combined arms combines aspects of the Tiberian and Red Alert series all in the C&C 1 style. I absolutely love the Scrin in the old C&C style and it has a fleshed out campaign after it's recent update of only a month or so ago.
Technically we are using OpenRA as a basis, though the engine will be so heavily modified with new features by the end of development that it'll be a pretty wildly different beast by the time the game ships.
True, but it had it's beginnings there. I still hope that not only does it get attention it deserves, but so does it's origins.
With Tempest Rising I think my biggest gripe is the terrible visual design, where every unit just blends in with every other. Your blob of units becomes just that, a blob of units, as opposed to any Starcraft, Warcraft, or C&C game where every unit has its own unique, distinct design and silhouette that can instantly be picked out from a crowd. It also speaks to just how uninteresting most of the units look, they look like an amateur designer's first generic work on a mod for another game, not something that came off the desk of a professional artist.
Cataclismo is a super exciting one i didn't even know was on the horizon! really reminds me of the now defunct Saurian Studio's terribly underappreciated wave defense sandbox game, Castle Story. will definitely have to look into it
Would love to see more videos like your Age of Myth one! It was so good and got an instant follow from me. Maybe cover some other classics like AoE II, Dawn of War, Company of Heroes, or Battle for Middle Earth :)
Grant you should play Deserts of Kharak, it plays like the main series Homeworld games but with modern RTS quality of life features, its a great introduction to series. The campaign isn't too long so its not a big time commitment. Also it has the best sound design on any RTS I have ever played.
Love love love deserts.
Everyone's gangsta until the sands start dooting.
The thing I'd ever want the most from a Sins of a Solar Empire sequel is a UI revamp/clean up so it's a win for me
I just hope they add a mod workshop that is easier to access than going to a different website.
See, the thing *I* want is a story mode. How are they making a remake AND NOT ADDING A STORY MODE!?
It was a pleasant surprise to hear your voice during the SC speedrun at AGDQ this year =D
Learning about so many new RTS games to keep and eye on is a feeling I could get used to! Especially looking forward to Outpost: Infinity Siege.
Since people are coming here to look at prospective RTS games I should also give a shoutout to Beyond All Reason (BAR) which is a completely free and open source game inspired by Total Annihilation. Being able to have thousands of units with no lag and being able to resurrect your own and even enemy units are some highlights for me.
I posted about it too. Im having fun with it . I was a huge Total Annihilation fan in the day.
The thing about Stormgates scope is that most of it can be achieved by just not being greedy. The whole custom game part is covered by shipping the dev tools that they use to make the game with the game. Adding a menu to load custom game data created with those dev tools (a custom game launcher) is about half a days work for a developer who is arguing online about how terran is OP at the same time. The scope really isn't that big if they don't have to control every little thing players/modders can do to sell more horse armor.
Yeah, it's just the original Starcraft model but for a new era.
i have a lot of faith they'll be able to pull it off- because they have in the past. these guys working on stormgate have an amazing track record, and it does them wonders in building good faith for stormgate.
Grant continues to be a real one for videos like these. I for one am looking forwards to the RTS revival!
It's nice to hear about so many single player games, thanks for the recommendations Grant!
Im not sure if your aware but if you want another full on '' weve drank their blood and DNA '' game like DORF, Dying Breed might be up your alley, except instead of RA 2 this one leans more towards Tiberium 1
Cant wait for FrostPunk2. Original FPs Graphics was amazing
I'm now looking forward to Dust Front well do to if I can play as the huge worms and stuff like that.
I think that was a goal stated... Somewhere?
Yeah... about that. At release dimon has said that there will only be the empire (black and red industrial faction in trailers) that is available to play. He isin't against the idea of being able to play other factions, but it would be a lot of additional work apparently.
For Outpost Infinity Siege, it reminds me a little bit of the Savage: Battle for Newerth premise.
Savage had two teams fighting each other, with a player from each time playing as the RTS Commander, and the rest as units. What a concept!
I kinda wish Silverback were still trying to hone that, instead of going all-in on Heroes of Newerth.
Heya, i have a friend that had the opportunity of playing 2 of the closed betas for Outpost Infinity Siege, the devs said multiple times the main gameplay loop will be solo and it was confirmed in the tests, when you are exploring and gathering ressources, you are by yourself. However, you can call friends on the final extraction day where the big base defence phase happen during wich the most ressources you decide to take, the more difficult and long that defence will be so a little help is always appreciated. Let me be clear, this is an FPS Tower defense game with extraction shooter elements that also combines RTS, Mech piloting, base building and some roguelike elements (when your character die, if it's not the main character that litteraly has a plot armor bc of story, they are permanently lost and so is the equipement you had and the ressources you gathered in that expedition). Truly my most anticipated game for 2024 and i'm so glad the devs are beeing both ambitious and yet still responsive to the testers reports when it comes to the gameplay loop. I won't say anything else because.... you know.... NDA but i strongly believe i'm gonna be spending hours on this game when it's out.
Just putting it out there that I'd happily watch you play Homeworld. Either as an hour+ main channel thing or as a archive series.
Cool thing about Homeworld is that it uses 3 dimensions. You can command your fast ships to go under enemy capital ship to attack its weak point.
It's really cool that they double down on use of environment. It was in the original game but not to core mechanic extent.
Having huge wrecks was planned for HW1, but the tech didn't allow for it at the time. Some concept art can still be seen in the credits.
Great video and shoutout from the Nightmare Hellscape!
Stormgate (aka SC2 reskin) third faction is almost certainly gonna be some sort of hyper-advanced alien race, possibly w/ a focus on psychic abilities.... cuz you know, protoss. Or maybe they will be angels... cuz also, protoss.
How is Broken Arrow not on this list??
Because Warno is better
Because it's a very niche tactics game posing as a strategy one (like Wargame, Warno and World in conflict, for example)
Also, because it has a very small fanbase, but they are very vocal about the range, and produce a lot of content for it, giving the impression that it is more successful than what it really is.
(I'm not saying it's bad or whatever, only that is not well-known yet)
Glad I stumbled upon your channel, enjoyed the watch & subscribed! Thank you CZcams
I can't wait to play all of them! Thanks a lot!
I know this isn't related to the video, but your vids have gotten me through some really tough times and everyday I look forward to your new videos, I want you to know that you have had a positive impact on my life and I am grateful for the content you put out, you are by far one of my favourite youtubers.
Falling Frontier got delayed again :(
thank you for covering this. I'm keen to try out catacombs and also tempest rising, reminds me of red alert 2 a bit
I have to thank you man DORF flew under my radar and it looks like a kick of nostalgia from the good old ra2 days. (Already had the rest on wishlist or in last train home owned lol)
Last Train Home is a jam! Some of its mechanics feel a little clunky, but it gives the player enormous flexibility for playstyle.
man.....was kinda sad to see supreme commander forged alliance wasnt mentioned.....but with this video ive learned of sum new strategy games!
Very nice video, lots of folks don't really have the experience to put in a list like this but yours is a lot better.
I don't care about homeworld and some of the other semi rts games but most of your list was very well put together and reaches out to true rts fans.
How is Homeworld Semi RTS?
Btw There is a game that released this year that is pretty underatted imo : Stellaris nexus. Under the turn based (and sometimes very simple art) coat there is basically what most people would want out of a Stellaris game minus the time consumming side of things. It's honestly a blast, and plays similarly to Twilight of empire (a board game, again minus the time sinking).
also minecraft legends (rip)
Also I agree stormgates terrifies me. There is a lot of ways I feel like they could fail and they 're charging head on.
Atleast it's thematic.
Last Train Home is also extremely anti-historic. The legion was a legion - it was a massive force that held the entire railroad by iron fist. They weren't the poor victims of war they are portrayed in the game but rather an opportunistic and a very cruel force acting under the orders of the intervention forces (until they eventually struck a deal with red army, selling out a white commander and left)
In short: they were kind of assholes and generally remembered not kindly in towns that they were travelling through. And the game tries to whitewash that.
Wow, so many games I didn't know existed and I am now absolutely hyped for their release!
Output Infinity siege looks interesting.
I remember playing dungeon Keeper 2 and there was a spell(?) which could you teleport into one of your monster's mind and play the monster in first person mode. This made the monster stronger in behavior, because of human intelligence. It was super fun!
I don't know if Homeworld 2 will be good. I want to play such SCIFI so badly, but I have a huge problem of managing things and using the map navigation, as it has height and there is no real up and down.
I still wish they would remaster Black & White 1&2 but at least we get a ton of other games.
"We need some flavour. So do us all a little favour."
I'm waiting for some indy Dev to make a spiritual successor, free from EA's grasp. Such a game would be perfect for VR, especially if you have a swivel chair.
I know it wasn't the focus or anything but... I thought Fire Emblem Engage was actually very good from a gameplay perspective (though story was very mid). The hard and below difficulties were pretty easy, but the Maddening difficulty for the first time felt like the right difficulty with you having to plan around the engage systems to be able to properly fight unfairly statted enemies.
I'm excited for tempest rising too! Only thing I can complain about is the unit cap, I despise those with a passion.
@GiantGrantGames
If you are cool with VR and want to try, closest i can think of to Outpost Infinity Siege is Guardians: Frontline.
Mainly FPS but with RTS Tactical view as an option, you can teleport down units and extract resources who are autopilot, can even pilot vehicles like the Mechs directly.
It also feels like Tower Defense when you have your Tank Barrages setup as it rains down absolute living hell on the enemy Spehhs Bugs.
Heres the answer to why rts is dying half of those "rts" games are horde defense or tower defense ,
And if its not it has aoe3 or starcraft2 graphics.
Our only hope is homeworld 3
im most excited for dust front and dorf. They look like weirdness incarnate and i love it!
Added a bunch of titles to my wishlist, great video!
I will say, if you ever do a Command & Conquer retrospective, I have some stories to tell about tiberian sun lan parties. Me & friends did it for years, having spam fights, overbuilt base defenses and territories, recoveries, stalemates, turtling to victory, etc. Tiberian Sun wasn't very competitive, and it was so unbalanced that it self-corrects in a war of attrition, but man, TibSun was so much fun. Even the standalone mod Twisted Insurrection was equally fun. Under the right mindset, friendships can be put to the test with that game.
Great vid!
What funny to me is that the 2 spiritual successors of C&C in the list both feature giant hamster balls of doom. Hahaha!
I was a bit suprised that you didn't even mention Sanctuary: Shattered Sun but remembering that you didn't have a good time streaming Supreme COmmander I guess I shouldn't be too suprised. Still great video. Some of them I haven't heard of before and I definitly want to check some of them out as they look very interesting.
He streamed supcom before? What happened?
@@Albert_C I don't really recall it exactly but he wasn't having much fun and just ended the steam much ealier that day. Don't even remember if really was because of the game or maybe something else.
Love the classic, that last one reminds me a bit of Dark Reign if you're (whomever's reading this) old enough for it.
It would be cool if you did a short review/play through of these games when they come out. I'd watch every one.
You should really play Homeworld series, its great! I recommend the timeline order instead of release order:
Deserts of Kharak,
Hom 1,
Hom: emergence (on GOG, extremely rare game genre - rts horror),
Hom 2
Hom 3
Personally I think the release order is fine. Deserts of Kharak has some foreshadowing that you wouldn't notice if you played it first. Also knowing what happens in the future makes the Gaalsiens really tragic.
Too bad the Remastered Collection completely removed any challenge, so it kinda feels like a pretty dumb space RTS.
THIS looks so damn cool. I’ve been itching for a new rts. Also the fact that AOM is coming back..
I would also add that Stormgate also add sime reference to Command & Conquer series with a resource that resembles Tiberium in how it will work.
Dominions 6 is pretty dope. Very intricate combat system for a turn based game. It has a 426 page manual. Lots of rules are really smart, like how slashing and blunt weapons have an attack penalty underwater that is proportional to the length of the weapon, because have you ever tried to swing something underwater?
Outpost Infinity Siege reminds me of Block Fortress with the part where you defend alongside your base, looks like something i'll be trying out when it is out!
To be completely honest here, over half of the games on this list I haven't heard of and didn't even know existed, thank you for making us all fans of RTS genre discover them and be excited about them
Frostpunk is one of the best RTS games I've ever played. Super excited for 2.
Last Train Home I purchased two weeks ago but hadn't time to play yet.