The DREADFUL White Savior Trope in Media (mission work, adoption, movies)
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White Saviorism is a very complex topic, but an important one. In this video we will be discussing what white saviorism is and how it is portrayed in not only the real world, but media as well. Make sure to share your thoughts on my commentary in the comments.
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I hated, hate, HATED, HATED!!! THE "HELP" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, my Son's Grammy(his dad's mother), She and I still talk about this movie, she cracks up laughing at how much I hate this movie. This movie was made what 10-15yrs ago, I said it then that this movie was all about that white girl home from college. Like we supposed to believe that this never had a job, first time moved away bit still lives at home thinks she knows the world white girl. Inspired these grown Black Women to finally stand up for themselves. THAT!😮, that these Grown Black Women would not have gotten the strength to do the things they needed to do like making a pie out of your 💩. To finally leave your abusive husband in the South 🙄🙄🙄, to take control of their lives, that the little ol white girl home from college. Yup🙄🙄🙄😕😕😕
No one is white, proper term: Anglo saxons, they were considered inferior Barbarians by the tanned Mediterranean people who gave them everything to the Anglo- P: Algebra, Trigonometry, arts,music, astronomy, physics, Alphabet, hospitals, universities etc etc etc !
Can you please share your hair details. It looks incredible
They are Christian trope not just white 🙄. Most of those if you noticed are Christians. Most whites like blacks in America and the west are Christians. It's the Bible quote. MATTHEW 25:31-40. Go read it. They are just Christians. Stop attacking your own Christians. Love you a black American
I support adoption, but I hate when people do it for the wrong reasons.
P.S. I love your content.
Im glad that there are people who support it. I am adopted but I am from the states. I have always thought it was weird that people had to leave the states to adopt children. There are a bunch of beautiful kids who are in foster care that need homes. Take care of the children here first
I also dont like that their culture is not celebrated by the people who adopt them
@@julieechristinee3192 Yeah I support adoption, just don't like when people do it for the wrong reasons. I don't like when people adopt children and don't teach them about their culture or their history. There are plenty of kids to adopt in the U.S., but people from the U.S. tend to go to other countries to adopt.
I saw a white couple trying to adopt a kid from Thailand but called off the adoption once they were informed they couldn’t film them for at least a year after adoption. It’s so sad. And even more sad that they openly admitted that. They really had that complex bad. They saw other white parents getting praise and were like “I want that”. Sad.
Ps: I hate when all the videos on a white parent’s (I’ve only seen moms though) TikTok account or whatever is just them doing their biracial/coily or curly haired child like we’re supposed to applaud them for “putting up with their hair” and “actually learning how to do it” when it’s a normal basic thing they should be doing. I guess they just want the dopamine filled likes and to feel better about themselves.
I almost dropped out of high school because my teacher held me back in classes I had already passed. After an investigation was conducted, turns out she was doing this to multiple black female students. This was all occurring in the same year this teacher showcased the work and accomplishments of the very students that where being oppressed.
That's hella calculated and creepy. Their evil knows no bounds...
Some teachers aren't right. I'm white but in first grade I never turned in any homework. I honestly thought I didn't have to do it cause no one explained thst to me. By the time the year was almost over my mom found my homework stack under my bed then talked to my teacher. She said she knew the situation...yet wasn't going to tell my mother and msybe fail me? What a loser! My mom worked out i would do my previous homework and I still passed. I'm mad at this lady to this day
Oh wow.
On the contrary, I flunked Statistics and Economics Senior Year (I simply don’t understand those subjects), but both teachers simply wanted me to graduate so they just automatically gave me a 60 as the final score so that I could graduate. They were so nice. 😂
I am a black girl, and i am going to Kenya this year for a school charity trip. Keep in mind I go to a majority white school. One of my friends is a blonde white girl. during the fundraising process she did absoluetly no work (along with other white girls), however, then she said how she was going to change the little kids' world (as in the BLACK kenyan kids), because they have "probably never seen a blonde girl."
The amount of times they assumed that their WHITE presence was changing BLACK lives was uncanny. The White Savior Narrative happens all the time and it is still so relevant.
Oooh, did that blonde girl realize that she...looks like the colonizer the Kenyan people already experienced?👀🤣
This reminds me of the African child that was terrified when she a saw white skinned lady
help who does she think she is.. her presence dont mean a thing
That's just dumb people thinking, not what white people think
Hey Toni! I’m a black transracial adoptee who was adopted into a racist white family at birth. I just want to say I appreciate you speaking on this topic, our experience is very unique and few people really try to understand.
heavy on that ain’t it
What is transracial?
i am also a black girl who was adopted by white parents but they helped me learning more abt my heritage.
I love this! ❤❤❤
What was that like? How do you cope with that knowledge? 😭
I'm an atheist + queer, and I really appreciate you mentioning that it's wrong to go into other peoples communities and strip them of their beliefs. I think that religion is beautiful, and I have zero problem with people of faith until they have a problem with my existence
This
As an agnostic/spiritual but not religious person, I 100% agree. I grew up in a religious family and still have religious family members whom I love dearly. We just don’t see eye to eye on how we each live our own lives personally, and that’s ok. As long as no one’s being harmed or forced to believe something, and everyone involved is peaceful and respectful, I have absolutely nothing against religion in and of itself, or practicing religious people. All love and respect over here ☮️
I'm a queer trans person who's also heavily religious. I'm just responding to like. Idk, let you know you're not alone. We're here, we're queer, and we aren't going anywhere
Who do you think runs this world
@@Halo4beatsB02 the gays, definitely
I am currently a black teacher working for a predominantly black district. The elementary school I worked for last year had a black principal and this year he’s white with this white savior complex…he fired all, but two black employees (one being myself but I declined the offer because he had filled my position as a 3rd grade teacher and placed me as Gym). He talked about his goal for the school and as he was talking I literally thought (& me being me actually spoke on professionally) about how although I liked his ambition, his goal needed to serve the community. He stated how me being there was important for representation as his whole staff was white (last year we had at least 10 black staff, also I am a black woman but I do have fair skin and hazel eyes so his energy gave “she’s passing” vibes). When he spoke I could tell he thought he knew what was best for the students although he stated he grew up wealthy and in a predominantly white town. Now not only am I a black woman who can relate to these students, but I’ve worked first hand with them last school year. I wished him the best on his endeavors and declined the offer. I love those kids, I was one of those teachers who they loved and respected and I know it’s because I look like them. I actually overheard a white teacher tell a second grade black student that he made her fear for her life coming to work everyday, I definitely read her to filth, but I was just shocked and outdone by witnessing that. It’s deep in the schools and that’s why it’s important to me to play my part!!
I'd love to hear a deep dive someday about how the white savior pathology really infiltrates academia. It's like a personality type that a lot of times goes hand-in-hand with teaching (and preaching!)
Folks can get power & prestige by presenting as an altruistic white person
We need more people like you in this world you should think of going to work in underprivileged black school as I feel your voice would make more of a difference. Just a thought. What happened here was wrong. Use your voice and keep standing your ground. People like you really do make a huge difference. Never back down.❤
@@jessbryan1361they didn’t say the school was underprivileged, they said predominantly black.
Uhm children shouldn't put fear of God in anyone 😂
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You literally described the teacher from Everyone Hates Chris. Almost everything she says is based off of a stereotype of pocs.
Miss Morales😂😂😂
i’m not even adopted. i’m black, born to black parents and i still struggle with the identity issues of growing up in predominantly white communities. it’s isolating
That's me rn at a very white Christian boarding school and when I say my parents would die for white validation I'm not even joking it's serious my family is very well off but they see themselves as less than and it's frustrating
So would you feel more comfortable in an all black neighborhood? There are options.
@@justb4769 i feel more comfortable in a safe neighborhood. if that neighborhood is black then i would feel comfortable. my dad grew up in a majority black town and neighborhood and he was very safe and comfy
@@justb4769you say there are options like kids can just up and move on their own
@@kiki13451 i wasn't referring to children. Of course they can't move on their own. They can finish high school and work a job in school like I did and go to college. There are student loans or if you have no money there are grants. I worked 2 jobs in college to make it. There is the military. The reserves will pay for your school or be a full time soldier. There is no reason to stay in the hood and become a thug. It only leads to death or jail. It's very strange that people who can't afford to take care of themselves bring multiple children into environments like this. It's a recipe for failure.
you touched on it a bit w/ the help, but the white savior complex is still very much present in the workplace and i hate it. I was paid less than my white coworker in the same job despite being given more assignments, and having more experience. When i brought it up he told me he likes to help black people so having the job was a privilege and that i should be happy that im being paid. I’m smart and capable, i took that job because the commute was short. I quit but it hurts my spirit knowing i was working for a man who thought that because im black i should be grateful for being exploited and underpaid. Im working for a black owned business now and im finally seen for my skills and potential. it’s refreshing.
Wow!!!!
Wtf
I wish more teachers esp white knew about the experiences of the their students who are poc or belong to other minorities groups. Many children would rather suffer in silence then have to explain racism, islamophobia etc to their white teacher and risk them not understanding, dismissing you, or making the situation worse. “Being nice” does nothing a child is struggling and you’re too dense to notice that you’re part of the problem
I'm black and I'm studying to be a teacher. In my country most teachers are white and made aware of racism and the fact that not every kid is privileged. We even are obligated to be open to differences and make sure that we do not encourage racism but let's be honest here. I think some of them just don't care about these issues and it SHOWS but believe me that they are aware of these issues.
I want to adopt and in Brazil the black and older kids aren't adopted and most of these kids left in the system become homeless as soon as they make 18. My kids will probably be black kids, and i've been reading and studying on how to make them feel they have a close realationship with their culture, past and history. Thank you for this video, i learned a lot.
Be sure to study up on Brazilian history! Look into learning Portuguese too!
@@krisl6537 i am brazilian. I live in brazil. I grew up in a mostly black neiborhood, and after going to university majoring in history, i felt more atracted to understand the things my friends friends went, im an aly too. But i have the ideia of adopting since i was a kid. I love kids but i dont want to get pregnant. As i grew i started to look into adoption and learned that most kids that are black and over 5 years old are left in the system. And in me, i felt the need to go for these kids because i have some experience in being left over. Knowing that probably my kids will be black or biracial, i started to talk to two of my friends that are in the black movement, they teached me a lot and they already accepted being the godfather and godmother of my future kids. But im always looking into black creators that talk about subjects like this. Because i dont know my kids, but i already know what to expect and i feel that i can be an aly to them and i love them already. Im sorry if something came out wrong, i learned english by myself.
@@looseflyingtoughts That's awesome! I live overseas in Peru so we're kinda in neighboring countries! The cool thing is that there is a lot of diversity in Brazil. I think you'll be able to find tons of helpful people and resources! Also, I'm glad you are looking into it! It's something so many don't consider, so it's refreshing to see a future parent that is really willing to go the extra mile! I thought you were American at first. I am but I'm fluent in Spanish and my kiddos are mixed so I make sure to teach them about both cultures too!
As a 26 year old woman who is white and a Special Education Teacher… YESSS SPOT ON!! I need it so much in older teachers and younger teachers coming in. There’s a sense of “doing it for the kids” that admin are pushing on us to exploit teachers anyways, but also reinforces teachers who have this savior complex. It’s so nuance and so harmful to students of color, students with disabilities and especially both
Im half asian half middle eastern and was adopted by white people, along with one of my sisters. She looks white, i looked ethnic asf. It was miserable. Our dad treated her like gold and me like shit. He was constantly cheating on my mom, making her miserable and crazy. Now my sister is his flying monkey. I recently went no contact with my sister and dad FINALLY and i dont feel bad about it all.
if you don't teach them to love themselves don't be surprised when they grow up to hate you.
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Black girl who grew up in predominantly white schools here 🙋🏽♀️ I relate to the “making micro aggressions against my own race” perspective way too well. Just making those corny racist stereotypes about myself before anyone else could. The constant reminders that I was black got so tiring. When you’re in junior high sitting at the lunch table it’s all just jokes and micro aggressions but it’s like the only thing people noticed about me is that I wasn’t white ! That’s the only information they knew and it was such a big deal to them. I didn’t even notice how disgusting and racist some of that treatment was until I became an adult. Even when I knew someone was being racist i just awkwardly let it slide cuz i was just a kid and there was no one else around me who looked like me so there wasn’t even much I could say. Most of the stuff people used to say to me back then I would probably slap them for now. The fried chicken jokes, the nosy inquiries about my hair, playing rap music while I’m in the car with you even though you never usually listen to that kind of music. There was even one girl who would ALWAYS go up to me just to say “you’re black!” Like that’s it, that was a joke to her. Since I was surrounded by white people my whole childhood that experience was very normal to me but looking back it’s actually made me very resentful.
Edit: At one point, I was the only black female in high school. It just felt weird and deep down I was always aware of the cultural disconnect between white people and poc even when you’re friends
No funny stuff intended but I don't understand why your black family would subject you to that psychological abuse. Why would they put you in a predominantly white school to begin with? If they already knew how you be treated because you are black. If you come from a supportive family and money why couldn't your family home school you to protect you from racism. Black families are failing their children in my opinion
I am certainly not adopted for anything but I have a white American mom and an immigrant Trinidadian dad. My dad isn't really connected with his culture so I'm not connected with my culture, although I want to be. In elementary school, I was bullied for being Indian (I look very Indian compared to my siblings who look white). I didn't realize the impact it had on me until middle school. I hated looking Indian, I wanted to look white like my siblings. It gave me a sort of identity crisis in middle school. Through high school (I'm now going into junior year) I have healed that hate. sometimes I catch myself going into that type of thinking but I quickly remind myself how beautiful I am. REMINDER I went to a very mixed-race school as I live in New York City and still got bullied by white, black, Hispanic and East Asian kids. Any person can be racist and that's facts.
There is a difference between being racist and xenophobia. Racism was a construction of White people which was promoted by scientists, in school books, by philosophers,in songs....it led to experimentation on "lower races". It backed up the atrocities during slavery and colonialism and WW2 and backed up racial laws in the US, in South Africa in France with their "Code Noir" against Black people or racial laws against Jews.... or even in Asia during French and British colonialism... As a consequence, today in the world we still see active or traces of this hate and hierarchy of race where White people are on the very top ( at the exception of Jews) and Black people at the very bottom. There is a history when it comes to Racism.
Xenophobia is the fear, the hate of whom is different or foreigner that does not follow that crazy creation and hierarchy of races. I am not saying that the last one is a good thing. Not at all, we should treat each other equal but let's just use the correct word.
It's really interesting to me to hear your thoughts on missionary work from the perspective of someone who is a christian. This type of criticism usually comes from non-religious people. I'm also christian, and the idea of mission trips have always rubbed me the wrong way, but I've never said anything because other christians will always praise the good work they're doing.
I get what you’re saying. It makes sense to me though, a lot of religion is about conforming to a standard and praising uniformity.
I’m also a Christian and the first time I heard criticism of mission work was from other Christians
When I saw my former church posing with Oprah, all smiles in Maui after the fires, that did it for me concerning mission work. 🙅🏽♀️🙅🏽♀️🙅🏽♀️
Transracial adoption.. I could talk about this for daysss as the first poc person in my adopted family growing up in an all white town. Especially when mixed
Same
SO glad you talked about this topic. Being a black woman growing up in an extremely white community in the chicago suburbs, i saw picture after picture of my classmates on mission trips and it always made me uncomfortable. All of the research for this video was extremely well done. I love all of your videos! Keep up the amazing work!
Hey sis, what suburb did you grow up in? I grew up in the west suburbs(Maywood) and am always curious of others experiences growing up in predominantly white areas.
Hey!! I grew up in Naperville!@@_Ridethemaverick
@@Elizabethblack212 you’re 100%. Right! It’s really frustrating and portrays the ENTIRE continent of Africa as a place that’s not desirable and only has poor starving children, when it’s a beautiful continent with so many countries full of rich culture and history.
Right like look who goes on these mission trips. I didn’t know much about them until I was a senior I think in HS and the teacher came in to talk about her going to some country in Africa and something about it made me uncomfortable because all she did…was take pics. She said she was going back over there because she loved the kids but besides saying she loved the kids she literally helped them none. Like what she told us she did was absolutely nothing. Like ??? What did you go over there to do? Take pictures of poor kids to show us they have to walk 10 miles to school and 5 miles for water ? And then say you want to help AFRICA??? As if they don’t have bustling countries and cities.
Thank you for mentioning missionary work. My cousins went to the Middle East to try and convert Muslims to Christianity to “free their souls” or some sh!t. My, very religious, Grandma was disappointed in them.
What do you believe in
Wtf
Thank you for mentioning my beautiful country the Congo, I really hope that one day my country will get better.❤
I have never been this early before for anything! Looking forward to listening to this while taking my braids out 🙌🏾❤️
Omggg I love this😭😭 I love when I can watch a long CZcams video while I’m doing or changing my hair😂 enjoy and let me know your thoughts!!
With White Saviorism, do you think that could be Disney rewriting their history with black actors rather than creating and researching new powerful rolls and stories for those people and their cultures?
No, personaly I find them to be two diffrent things. The reason why we see all of this race swapping in Hollywood it's mainly for money. Like everything in the industry, the intent is secondary to the profit, so even if it's presented in that way it has nothing to do with genuine yet missguided, at best, feelings of "The White Savoir".
There’s definitely something to be said about companies that capitalize off of representation. Just over saturating media with diversity and suddenly becoming culturally aware after generations of only displaying certain images. Although I as a black person appreciate being seen, most of the time you can see through it and it’s not genuine. A lot of these people just know that diversity is “in” now and pretend to care about representation for a quick buck. It’s performative. Like government representatives taking a knee on Juneteenth instead of taking action to reverse racist policies ingrained in American society
Absolutely, and they knew that the reaction was going to be negative.
It's Hollywood as whole, behind its predominantly white and male, and they make things worse
what does this have to do w white saviortism.
yes yes yessss
And they always have that” no they saved me.😌” line like SAVE YOU FROM WHAT??? GUILT???
I recently heard that the teacher (Erin Gruwell) that the teacher in freedom writers is based on is actually of Latina/Mexican-American heritage and was always taught to be proud of being Latina
They literally changed her to white in the movie so a person of only white-European heritage could be the protagonist lmao
I loved this video. I am white and I have hope to eventually become a foster parent and even adopt. I admit that there was a bit of white savior in the beginning, but as I became serious about doing this and learning more I grew to truly want to better the lives of kids in the system. I am very appreciative of videos like yours because it expands my knowledge of these issues and gives me ideas on how to better myself and better prepare for my goals so thank you ❤❤❤
I’ve always felt most comfort table around non black people. Because of culture. Such as music tastes and interests. I was told I was a traitor and non black because of this. Even while I was surrounded by blacks. Even learning where I’m from and knowing who I am there’s no racial group I’m welcome in generally speaking. I’ve dealt with people who are white saviors but also people who just simply want to help but are viewed through lenses they themselves don’t make. One of my favorite teachers who did a lot for me was a white woman married to a Hispanic veteran. My mom tried to make it a racial thing because this woman stepped up to help me graduate, got me set up with an internship, set me up with housing. Within the same day my mom kicked me out the house and told me no one wanted me. She didn’t do it because I was black. However she knew there was specific things I needed because I was black and she did what she could.
I love the orange blush! I think it compliments your skin tone really well
"we don't see color" - well maybe you should. because the american system, every system, was built around the idea that whiteness is better. whiteness is superior. so maybe you should start seeing color, since the people who built this country certainly did. (eye roll) then maybe we can take steps to change the system.
@@ot4625 Yes! i get how people think it's a nice thing to say and do but it's so hurtful. i have to stop myself from grinding my teeth every time someone says it or something like it such as "i love all people". omg just stfu
@@user-le4bo1id1ythey act like we're supposed to clap for them or something? Like, okay? And?
They love all people because they expect all people to cater to their ego.
But so many POC people ask that when you look at them to not see colour but then now you're saying we should, make up your mind please.
@@maggieharrison7103 i don't think you understand what they mean. it was that simple for me too until i learned the history that i wasn't taught in school. in an ideal world (i guess?), anybody would like to be treated like race/gender/sexual orientation/etc is not a major factor. of course black people and POC would not like to be called derogatory names or told to "go back to where you come from" or "this isn't your country". they wanted to be treated as a person but ironically, for non-POC people to do that, we would need to consider race/gender/sexual orientation/etc because with those factors comes the history and the impact that it has in the policies and the politics that happened. let's accept that something that is outrageously complex such as racism in america cannot be sizzled down to a simple answer like "just don't see color". it's a lie anyway because you do see color and when you do, then comes what you were taught is associated with that person's skin color. and you act on those associations subconsciously or consciously.
@grandempressvicky6387 ikr strange behavior
Something I’d like to point out about the family shown with the two Ethiopian children and child from India. This couple has blogged about raising their children as white adoptive parents and are aware of what they face. As you pointed out this is not every adoptive family and peope cannot accept some people just want to do good. If a child cannot find a family in their own country better they be raised by white adoptive parents then in an orphanage. Great video. Enjoy your content 😊
this is not talked about enough, thank you
18:30 throwback to when me and my younger siblings (12, 10 and 8 at the time) were being called over by this older Asian man so he could “take our picture” at the airport in Ethiopia on our way back to America.
The way people see black children as props and not people even in America is insane. No parent should have to shield their child from getting their picture taken by a stranger just bc look and dress differently.
Thank god I have a mom who was ready to jump in and defend me against crazy people who would yell at her for not letting her take the pic
Im from Brazil. The amount of gringos I’ve seen going to the favelas as if they were going to a zoo, like “oh, look at all those Afro-latine poor people! So exotic” … I mean, they really don’t see anyone who isn’t Anglo as a human being. Honestly, it’s ridiculous.
😮seriously
Eles não falar isso não, para de falar besteira
My aunt and uncle were missionaries, but they mostly gave LEGITIMATE medical treatments. He was licensed to do surgery and she was a dental technician. They lived in the community they worked in. They actually tried to stay when everything broke down but were forced to leave. My cousin moved back more recently and is fully integrated into the community. I think the big question is why are you there. Are you medically trained? Are you planning on helping train others in that community to make things sustainable? Are you there to win props or because you actually want to become part of the community? Are you willing to fight against injustice alongside the locals? Being a missionary can also be the primary focus, start a church that you try to train others to run. That's a legitimate mission. Help out with local issues, but AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY. Regardless, going somewhere to build houses or stuff like that isn't biblical. Starting churches is, and is spreading the word while working your profession as part of the local community. I have no idea why people think white savior stuff is missionary work. It isn't. Missionary work is not location dependent. You can do missionary work 15 miles away in a white neighborhood and NOT BE RACIST. Or you can integrate into another community that isn't white and work there. Please stop harassing brown and black people.
I’m Atheist and honestly girl. YOU PREACH!! Thank you for letting other people believe in what they believe, and your bible quotes always make me feel better. So thank you!!
Note: I'm mentioning this before I have watched the whole video, so I don't know if you mentioned this or not.
This is for the white people that do this to get more likes on thier social media accounts. Do people remember that one family volg channel that wanted to adopt a child from Korea, I think (correct me if I'm wrong), but they decided against it because they wouldn't been able to film the child for a year. The people you are talking about give me the same vibe as the family vlogger I mentioned. Children should not be exploited for clout on your social media accounts, especially like this.
it was thailand and I'm happy Thailand has a rule like this. It protected this kid from being exploited for money
Exactly 😊
I'm glad you're covering this. Growing up I'd say, my Mom is so far from racist, that it felt borderline racist. She would try and teach my brother and I that we shouldn't see color, but why? It's so beautiful. Different colors and cultures are truly something I believe we should love and respect.
i am a mixed person, white presenting and i have a older sister that looks fully black, in middle school the principal was white we were low income but in a high income area because government housing is random. so naturally everyone was white my sister and i were the ONLY i mean ONLY non-white people so the principal used her as a token kid and it was extremely uncomfortable. but for me she treated me as if i was in the way for showcasing my sister. i don't even want to imagine what kind of racism she went through. i went through racism too but not until people found i was fully related to her i got called "oreo" and people said that my dad was a N word lover, moral of the story don't treat people because of their color threat them because of their character but respect their culture and race.
When the earthquake happened in Turkey and Syria.
I got many charity videos on my feed, asking for money for *food, medicine and shelter.*
*Why* are SO many White Americans commenting under the videos asking to *adopt* the children??
We don't do that when there's natural disasters in our own country.
If the charity was about adoption. I would understand. But none of them were. -_-
I normally just watch your videos on my tv but I literally downloaded the app just to comment and tell you- that blush looks AMAZING on you!! Like seriously girl you are glowing🔥🔥
Oh this was right on time for me. My father's church is full of members who are suffering from w.s.c. and they are die hard missionaries but in the worst way...one member of the church is on trial for adopting children from Haiti only to turn around and r*pe them. Corrigan Clay is his name. Crazy thing is that my father and members of the church are down at the courthouse praying for this predator...no not for the victims.
Sooo your video really hit me.. I am white and my cousin, who I thank God for, is adopted from Ethiopia. I am so grateful that we are close and because of the interests and experiences we share we can talk about anything together, even these kinda topics. She always tells me that her surroundings do not see her as black, which is disturbing to her. She is now connecting more and more with her culture but sadly because of a language barrier its very difficult for her… thankyou for discussing this topic. We need to talk about it more, peoples lives are not here for some other humans’ personal benefit :( As always your video is put together beautifully Toni❤ thankyou
Yeah my mom's not adopted but being light skin in the 70s my mom got called all types of names it breaks my heart bc she is a true angel and for her to be called zebra & etc was not cool. ❤
I'm so glad you made this video...now I can send to my white family who don't see color. Also your hair looks so pretty❤❤
A big solution to all these problems would be just genuinely helping people for the sake of helping them
Expecting nothing in return. Especially not fame or heroism
This video was amazing! I'm a new subscriber btw.
One thing i can't stand is how a lot of Christians ( especially back then ) would invade, grape, unalive, and strip the native people of everything they held dear to them. That behavior is NOT accepted, nor promoted ANYWHERE in the bible! it amazed me even as a child how these European kings and queens fought for God to be the only one to be worshipped, while doing so many heinous things, and living such incredibly dastardly lives in the process.
As for the media side of the white savior complex, i've always noticed it, and it was very confusing. Luckily, my mom broke it down for me and helped me to understand that this is nothing new. I've had my fair share of encounters with white savior teachers and school faculty that tried to treat me as a orphaned black girl, knowing God darned well i had a family that was very capable of taking care of me. They acted as though i launched an attack missile when i replied with " No thank you." or " I have a mother." as they would often try to replace her somehow 🙄🙄. The funniest part of it was when i told my mom what happened at school, she would tell me to tell the that SHE said to stop asking me that. When i told them, they had the nerve to ask for my mothers information so they could "speak" to her, and told me to have her information written down so i could bring it to them the next day... i lied and said i didn't know my moms info cuz i wasn't stupid.
This was really long! 😅
All in all, this is a problem that needs to be stopped!
Hey Toni, the mission work topic reminded me of this book I read in 11th grade, it’s called the Poisonwood Bible and it is a good example of the white savior complex. Also it was set in the Congo.
There's something real icky about a cutesy animation with a peppy voiceover being used to describe the evil acts of Leopold II in the Congo
it makes my skin crawl when this privilegded people go to this contries and always say " this people have nothing but they always manage to have a smile on their faces, it warms my heart" ... yuck
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I soooooo appreciate this conversation!!! Thanks for doing a great video and putting so much thought into it so that there can be gainful discourse 😊
White savior complex is just another term for manifest destiny . THEY ARE NOT SLICK!
Thank you for this video. I don’t think I have anything to add to the conversation but I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to not only record it once, but record it a second time.
I love the blush!!! It brings out a nice warm tone in your skin. GORGEOUS!!! Love your usual pink though too ❤❤
Well done👏👏 Love to see you discussing more social issues and less celebrity talk.
Go Toni! So happy I found your channel
Hi Toni! Thanks so much for this amazing video! It was so interesting to hear about. I didn't know anything about it, but had done missionary work in my youth, which growing up I understood how problematic it had been. Those films are such good examples too
Just want to say even if white people dominate in this world, I love people for who they are as human beings and not because of their race. I don’t want to nourish at type of hate against a people. Even if I am a poc, I know that God choose me for a specific reason.
What an insightful and thoroughly research video. It's interesting because I think this could be extrapolated to some interracial relationships. Something to ponder...
“Besides the TakeOut..” 😳 That hit me HARD!
Okayyy Toni!!!! The hair is giving girl!!! Let me get into this video ❤❤❤❤
Yay its here!! So excited to watch this video 😄
This video was definitely necessary thankyou and you did a great job
Oh my goodness this is the best video, very well explained and I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way about these movies.
As someone from a third world country (Pakistan) I can confirm that we simply will not treat white teachers the same way as the others. Throughout my entire educational experience so far only one white teacher was truly respected and that’s because she was Russian and wasn’t afraid to put us in place. The others could literally be the head or principle of the school but because they would either talk way too much about their own country every time u spoke to them or they belittled ours or simply jsut tried too hard to be cool and try to be like us they were never respected and often ridiculed behind their backs. It may sound mean to some but you can’t grt mad at primary school or kindergarten students for not liking or feeling comfortable with someone who looks nothing like them and has none of the same beliefs. In fact I’ve seen student section be more comfortable and intrigued by other people of colour eg black or latina students or teachers than white ones
i love your content, i feel like i am educated on this stuff but your content gives me more insight and helps me understand more when i thought i already did. i appreciate you making these types of videos they are so important!!
i’m happy you posted i was hoping you dropped a video today!
I was wondering if the blind side ever consulted Michael about his experiences before continuing with the narrative they did? It’s become so unhinged to not centre black peoples experiences and to instead actively portray these individuals as helpless and almost with child-like innocence for profit.
If anyone has any good movies that does not centre white saviourism related to these topics, I’d like to hear your recommendations.
I’m going on a long drive so I’m grateful for this long video
Thank you for addressing this. Few things get under my skin like this does.
Yes! The orange blush is GIVING 🙌🏾👏🏾😍 compliments you better than the pink for sure 🫶🏾
I think there’s also a conversation that’s needed to be had about how adopting these children from other cultures can also be a form of assimilation and oppression. Taking these children from their community/ culture, raising them to know nothing about where they come from and then assimilating them into the society of the parents (who are of a different race) but then they’re raising these children to hate the culture that they refuse to teach them about. We’ve seen these tactics before and the result is a community that hates themselves and in turn will tear themselves apart because of that hatred. I’m not saying that intercontinental or interracial adoption is a bad thing but there needs to be more rules/ laws put into place about who is allowed to do this and what are the expectations.
Girl, your hair is givingggggg.. are thoose clip-ins? Spill the tea, We need to know where u got them?!
Honestly this is slick why I side eye that movie. I feel like they darkened the characters to not address how colorism. The fact she was able to use white women restroom was, because of how light skinned she was. That was also probably the reason why they were able to work there in the first place. (Personal opinion), I feel that they darkened so they could add the white saviorism and also not have to address that not all Black people were treated the same and some were afforded privileges are were not (correct me if I'm wrong, I believe it was the other woman who couldn't use the restroom in real life). Problem when white folks tell our stories is they leave out nuances that may not seem important to them but paints a whole other picture for us
Hey Toni! Renee Bach is the same woman that HBO is releasing a doc about this month. I mentioned this on your post on IG.
This was such a great video👏
Not me being from Baltimore, MD and knowing exactly what University you were talking about.
Hey T, excellent job on this video!
I adopted a biracial child because there were no other options the boy had sat tò rot for 2 years and his mom told me she straight up didnt want him baçk because she enjoyed her freedom. I tried to put him in touch with his black family. I dont know about being black but i tried to learn about his emotional issues as weĺl as how to do hìs hàir. This boy stiļl comes to me thankfully and did the besti could and gave my son brother it also càme with a lot of surprised stereotype directed at me. All the hate when all i tried to do was love a little boy that deserved to be loved for the first time ever. Im sorry if I ever fell short of providing the cultural background he deserved but i càn say i genuinely did the best i could.
such a good point about The Help!!
I agree it's important for an adopting family not to dismiss/erase (or attempt to) the heritage and blood family connection of their adopted children, I find it hard to think their life is worse being adopted than it would have been with the family who lost/gave them up for any number of awful reasons.
I've always been disgusted by the horrific way people of color have been treated historically and now. Same with Native Americans and any population of people that has been oppressed or taken advantage of. I know a lot of white people that feel this way, too, and I think some of us legitimately struggle with knowing how to be respectful as well as helpful, knowing that it could appear that we have a white Savior complex. I don't post anything to social media so I'm not looking for praise. I'd rather do nice things/donations in private. It's a little hard to navigate. Perhaps donating to where the organizations that use workers from those actual communities is the best way to truly help. I've never gone on a missionary trip or anything like that but I've known people who have and I admit sometimes the way they talk about it gives me the willies. I do think there are people with very honorable intentions out there, and I like to think I'm one of them. But like I said it's a little bit hard to know how to help without people thinking that you are only doing it to come across as a "Savior." In some of the movies you mentioned, like the Help, I totally get all of your points, but for me when I watched the movie, I honestly felt proud to think that there were white people that were willing to lend a hand. Sometimes influential people in a white community may be able to make a difference because they could be the only ones that will convince other white people to stop being terrible. My grandfather helped to hide and then smuggle a Jewish family out of Germany during World War II and I have always been so proud to be related to someone who risked a lot to do what he thought was right and save a family that was truly in a terrible situation.
For some reason the Blind Side is one my grandpa's favourite movie!!
I love your content! Love your channel and you! Could u plz cover the story on pinky doll and colorism? I would love to hear your thoughts on that situation! Ty ❤
Ummmm... generally agree with your sentiments but how could you say "They(the adoptive parents) most likely gave this child a way harder life than they would have living with their biological parents". Are you really sure about that?
I guess she means in the cases where more harm than good was done. And this definitely happens all too often. But I get what you’re saying, I noted that too. Hard to say.
I think she means, aside from economic security. Like the people in the Jubilee video. They all said that they had issues with dysphoria about their race, internalised racism, feeling isolated because their white families didn't know how to properly deal with issues about race, wondering who they were. One of them was raised in a fucking sundown town - you can only imagine how horrible that would be.
In the case of black kids, it means possibly not knowing how to properly engage with the police to avoid being murdered because the white parent would have no idea where to begin.
This is not true in most adoption cases but there is an example that touched me of when it is true. Look up the case of Ricky Holland. It has nothing to do with white saviorism but that is the perfect example of when a child is better off with their bio family.
I have never seen the movies The Help or The Blind Side for the very reasons you outline in this video!!!!
I believe that being a missionary is something has to be done carefully, yes, a lot of it is being done wrong, however that is what God calls us to do as Christians spread the good news, which can be different things with missionary work included in that. It has to be spirit led, I'll give an example, my church does missionary work in America (which I think is important cause you have to serve your own community first) but we also do missionary work in countries where we have partner churches, we go with people that speak the language, we work with the locals to help where they need help. We don't go to change their ways of living. I see where a lot goes wrong but at the same time it's not always bad when it's done the way it's supposed to be. (God's way) I personally as a Congolese woman plan on being a missionary of some sort with the knowledge that I amass to help those that need it and ask for it. my definition of a missionary: A person spread the good news of Christ while helping with the needs of people. I understand the points being made but I wanted to add my own thoughts just because I've seen it done in a way that I admire so I wanted to share. God bless.
Can we get a makeup routine vid? 😍
i learned all about this white savior mentality in AP world sophomore year. Very crazy.
Deception is a very power weapon ..
the orange blush looks super good on u!!!!
Definitely should’ve mention how cps would take native children from there homes and put them in adoption agency to give them a “better life” and would put these kids into white families to strip them of their culture u should definitely do a video on the history of adoption agency
I'm not adopted but my dad passed away when I was 3 and I'm 27 now. My mom is Irish Welsh and Native American and my daddy was Hispanic and Native American. I grew up in a school with a graduating class of 21 people smack dab in the heart Oklahoma. I got called half-breed and wet back all kinds of other nasty names. It's crazy because other schools that were less than 20 miles away were more populated and had more diversity and didn't have the bullying or the racial problems that the school had. There were two other families that were POC they've been there since they were little and they didn't get bullied hardly at all I think it's because they've been with that school since they have been adopted when they were little.
I went on a missionary trip years ago partnering with a local church that my church had ties to. When I asked them what are the struggles they are experiencing with hosting different churches all the time, they said that listening to so many young people talk about “I’m so thankful I live in the US,.” and things of the like while taking photos with children was difficult.
And they told me why did the churches come here then? Why do they not appreciate the culture? Should locals be ungrateful for living here? It’s incredibly harmful to the community.
There definitely is a culture of white saviorism in evangelical churches. The amount of unlearning I’ve had to do has been humbling, and I’m still angry at the adults that cultivated such mindsets in young people.
I’m still in the middle of watching the video but I remember when I heard of the Renee story, and how disgusted I was. She needs to be in jail
This video reminded me of the not enough Nelsons
Love this video great job Toni racism is something. Is black people we will have to live with forever unfortunately:
Just a little correction: 13:40 the story of Congo, it’s not Europeans, it was the Belgian King Leopold back in the day. Not the whole of Europe. It bothers me that that people think Europe is a country, it’s not. And I’m Belgian myself, not proud of that part of our history. But great video.
Please understand I know Europe is a continent and not a country😂 when I say Europeans I’m referring to the multiple countries in Europe that invaded various lands around the world. The story of Congo was one story I mentioned as an example of those various invasions.
@@ToniBryanneTV aaah alright! I get what you mean! 😂
amazing video!
It’s interesting that in USA native Americans have federal legislation to only allow natives to adopt other natives due to the historical horrors that occurred against them in USA. However black kids don’t have that same protection. Black children in the system should have priority to be adopted by family or other black Americans. If black people are not adopting enough it’s because our economics and support systems are not as strong but if there were more incentives and support promoted and known I’m sure more blacks would adopt