SUPER JOLLY CHAINSAW CHAIN GRINDER REVIEW - PRO SERIES
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2017
- In this vid I show what I think is an awesome chainsaw chain sharpener and one I have used a lot.
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I wish my dad was still around to see these amazing machines that sharpen chains. We used to use the bar clamp file system and it was finicky, never could get it to work right. My bro has the same machine you do, what a great unit. I appreciate your vids Steve. Thanks
I did the same for years LOL I get tired faster cutting wood now since I don't have them constant filing breaks. LOL Cheers buddy , wish my dad was still around as well he actually did most of the filing.
I admire your tool collection Steve. Your DIY neighbors must love you
I have to pace my tool collection or I run out of vids LOL I don't mind helping my friends with my tools but i don't lend out my tools anymore . Seems most don't want to buy you a new one if they lose yours in the lake or at least get it fixed after they break it. LOL Its better to say no lendsies and keep more friendsies :)
Oh when I lend out something it comes back broken and no gas in it.
This video din't come into my inbox
Bruce Pender I've been having that going on too. I only get the google plus notification.
Bruce Pender Haha it's not just me then .
Nice sharpener... Back many years ago when I heated with wood, I had six chains for my saw. Old guy around the corner sharpened chains for $1 each, so I did not even own a file. I just bought a cheap chain grinder a few months ago, and I have not tried it out yet. I have used one before, so should be no problem. Thank you for the video,Steve
WOW thats a great price for a sharpen and today its $10-15 a time. This is a time saver and does a better job than my filing. Cheers
I always figured a chain sharpened on a grinder would last 2 or 3 times as long as a filed one. And files are note cheap any more either. Thank you for the reply, Steve
Very slick machine indeed 👍 there's nothing quite like the smell of wood chips and two cycle exhaust first thing in the morning 🍺
HAHA i agree buddy. Thanks
Well that was tons of fun. I wondered as a child what a similar looking device was at a neighbors. I finally know!
HAHA and I assume you don't have a chainsaw either. Cheers buddy
STEVE ROB true but my new property has lot of trees and no one wants to spend thousands per tree so I'll have to fix that.
That's a nice setup ya got there.
I've got an Oregon sharpener that I hardly touch any more... haven't heated with wood for over 10 years now. My big ole' Echo just sits in the shop and collects dust until a bad storm comes through lol
Thanks !! At least your ready for the next time because there's always a next time. LOL
Yessir!!
You ARE knowing your stuff. Cool your reverting also to the other chainsaw channels (No pun intended ;-))) Cheers, Steve!
Love my chainsaws and this time of year when the bugs are less I start to cut trees. Cheers Simone.
that looks like a great tool...makes me want to get one 👍
If you sharpen at least 10 a year it's 1/3 the price of the machine in savings. It's so much faster and throwing on a chain when its start to get dull is much easier than taking out a file. Cheers Glen
Great sharpener, you really work those chainsaws hard. Nice job Steve
It's been working hard the last couple of years and looks like a great choice. Cheers
That is a lot of chains to go through in a year. Good review Steve. Very nice machine you have, does a lot. I don't use my chainsaw enough to need one of these bad boys.
It's a great rig and one only needed for a lot of chain sharpening. Cheers buddy
That's a nice sharpener. I always used files while sitting in the woods with a six pack. 👍🍻
That will work too, I should come down and cut a couple of cases with ya . LOL
Hell Yeah!
I had always used the file method...I like this system...Pretty dang quick!
I did the file for years and then my arms wanted a break so I bought them this and their Happy Happy Happy. LOL
WOW...thats some fancy sharpener you got...I have the the big one from princess but at the camp I sharpen by hand and I rotate 4 chains and when there not so even any more I bring the home and give them a grind with the stone,,,I find it takes a lot out of the chain when you use the stone all the time...CHEERS
I agree Gator but as soon as they start to not throw big chips I put a fresh one on and the sharpener just tunes them up without taking too much off. I don't even bother with a file anymore. hahah my arms are too sore by then.
I have hand filed my chains for 42 years, and I get them very sharp, and they last a very long time. My experience at the saw shops has been that they grind them living s+-t out of em and they need replacing after 4-5 sharpenings !!!!!! But, if I could get a solid sharpener at a reasonable price that was not Carber Brate quality I would likely try it. I need to look at this machine closer! Thanks for sharing!
Michael I know exactly what your saying and that's why I bought this sharpener . I take very little off and it's super sharp and easily sharpen a chain 20 times plus.
@@SteveRobReviews we sharpen them to remove the wear at our sharpening shop. If the wear is a couple thou that's what we remove. If the wear goes back 10 thou then that is what we remove. I would be creating more work for myself to remove more steel than necessary so the comment makes no sense. If I return a chain that still has wear then we are not doing a proper job even though it may cut better than before
Yeah, I have the Carber Brate; it works and it will do in a pinch, and at the time when I couldn't afford much more than the file... But it's time for an upgrade and this looks like a solid contender.
I like to run my chainsaw on big rocks are 45 angel to sharpen the chain hehe... Nice Super Jolly review Steve buddy~! I'll have to show this video for my uncle. Yeah gotta have the smooth feature... go big or go home.. That is pretty slick... 4 mins for a chain that's damn well worth the money buddy!
It's a sweet rig and saves me the time from using a file. It's a keeper buddy.
2 Husky Rancher's for over 20 years. Best all around saw ever made. They just run and run. Winter in Wisconsin and they are going full time. Good video
It's all about how you look after them and how they're made. A good saw will last most people 30 years . Husky and Stihl seem to have the market to themselves as far as being the most popular. I'm trying a new brand and its looking like a winner too. Cheers
ml2trick you can keep your ranchers going indefinitely. ...check out my channel for full bolt for bolt rebuilds...in case you need to tear them down!
Man that's a nice sharpener. Although I usually sharper with a file and it's guide I do have a motorized sharpener from Princess Auto but it's nowhere as nice as that one you have. Cool video. Very much enjoyed it. Thumbs up all the way.
Thanks Paul, this is the way to go when you have 20 chains to do. The P/auto rig does a good job but I so liked the auto chain vice and it's almost paid for itself compared to paying to get chains sharpened.
Pretty neat, I usually just file at my chain then toss it and get a new one, but I don't use but maybe 1 or 2 chains a year but if i used more this would be pretty neat for sure
It's not worth it for a couple of chains a year but for 20 yes. My big chain they want $15 each time to sharpen. The machine is paying itself off.
Steve, you did a great dance avoiding the emotional arguments about tooth angles! You could teach politicians how to speak. Nice machine
HAHA cutting angles and gas-oil mixes are worse than politics. LOL
Did somebody say gas?
I use to do HVAC work and started using Coil Safe AC coil cleaner. It's environmentally safe and non corrosive. It breaks down most of the crud on the chain within a few minutes. Sometimes I hit it with a wire brush but most of the time just hosing the cleaner off the chain does the trick. I actually have a video about it on my business channel.
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Good one there buddy.
Looking forward to se your saws and if you are a Sthil or Husky guy!
Thanks and it's quite common for most of the people to have the same brand as I do. Either one of them are great choices but a new saw I bought is turning out to be better than both stihl and hunky so far.
Wow Steve that's a lot of cutting going through that many chain's. I not very good sharpening saws with a file .Good job !
I have never thought about showing cutting down drees , hahah who want to watch that. This is a great tool to have for keeping your chains sharp and your arms unsore.
nice setup!! I might get this for my old man. he's went through them all over the years it seems, this looks promising.
is this a lead up video to your next vid haha cover the questions now because it's about to get real. lol that actually would be a good concept
I don't do any cutting till the fall , the bugs chase you out of the bush. I like this one since it's automatic for the chain vice and real easy to setup. I can do a 20 inch chain in 3 minutes and is razor sharp. I have friends that wear out their saws running dull chains to get as mush cut before they sharpen, not a good idea but they keep buying saws but no chains. LOL Yes would be a great gift and about half the price in America :)
Looking good buddy. I never have much luck with chainsaws so I'll outsource my maintenance your way 👍
You have lots of trees in NZ , a picture with you and a chainsaw would be awesome on instagram in a red mackinaw shirt like charlie's. LOL
Yeah with a bib on.
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wanna talk about fuel mixes? lol. thanks for the plug buddy! yes I got mostly husky stuff but stihl stuff coming!
HAHA fuel mix and sharpening angles , not ever going to ask them questions again. LOL Cheers buddy
That is a really cool machine. Always nice to have good equipment that make boring jobs take less time. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Mike and doing 20 chains by hand is no fun at all. LOL
When you mentioned 20 chains a year in the video, I had to back up the video and make sure I heard it correctly. That's crazy! Cheers!
Mike I never let my chains run till dull it's too hard on the saw. When its stops pulling nice chips I throw on a fresh one. I have way more than 20 chains. LOL
@@UCanDoIt2Mike $300 grinder/20 sharpenings = $15 per sharpening. If you pay to have your chains sharpened 20 times, youve paid for a grinder and tax.
Seems like a nice unit I have been taking my chain's to the local hardware store but I have not been happy with the results lately maybe its time to brake down and get one. Great review Steve!
For me its $10 -15 a sharpening depending on the chain before I bought the machine . This rig does a real nice job . Cheers buddy
Yea, I am paying about $13.00 for sharpening I only have 2 chains and end up only sharpening the one but I have friends that burn through them and if I can get something and learn to use it I can save us all a heap of cash!
I always wanted to get a grinder and finally did it. Totally worth it.
For a few years I had my chains done by a local shop and was happy with the grind for the first few years, however the last two years, all they would do is just take meat off my mostly sharp chains, overheat the cutters and ruin the tempering, and roll the edges. I had several chains come back worse than they were sent in. I just recently got my grinder and am very happy with the results, none of my chains will ever be going back to the shop...
Very Cool! 😎 Good Stuff!
Thanks buddy
Great vid Brother as always.
Thanks Marty , I like to stay sharp :)
Yes Brother you are sharp and you keep me sharp.
Proverbs 27:17
As iron sharpens iron
so one person sharpens another.
I gotta get it Wright now in case ya ever checked up on me ta see if I'm givin ya the straight scoop?
Neat sharpener! I bought a similar one from Harbor Freight (not near as nice though), used it once and went back to using a hand file ;)
Haha come on now, buddy try it again their the best. Makes a great vid. :)
well done my friend, cool job Best of luck
Thanks Bowstar, you have a great day.
Hi Steve,nice little machine maybe one day I'll be one, I just go buy a new chain for 19 bucks, I'm not that good at using a file
Aubrey I sharpen a chain at least 10 times LOL I don't let it get dull , as soon as it stops pulling nice chips I put a fresh one on. Takes me only a couple of minutes to sharpen as opposed to the file much more time. They say using a file is the best way but i'm not that good at it and not that fussy about it. Jerry has one from P/Auto try his out and see how you like it.
That's a slick unit Steve. I only have two saws so a file still works for me. But as I get older and my eyes get worse maybe that machine is in my future. Of course by then I can't use the saws! LOL
It's my arms that get a break from filing and this is so fast and gives a real sharp edge. A great buy for my needs. Cheers
I like that machine . Much nicer than my Harbor Freight one . But i have sharpened many chains with it .
Terry the auto hydraulic clamp is the way to go without you'd have to stop and reset all the time. It's a nice rig but for most a HF will do fine.
Looks like new (the sharpener)... vacuumed-off & shrink wrapped till the next time it's needed! =)
Yes Thomas I clean everything as new every time. It's the German in me. I can't help it :)
I knew it! LOL
Nice machine. If I ever get a chainsaw I know exactly where to go to have it sharpened. LOL
Absolutely John, I seen your lumberjack skills before. HAHA
I forgot all about that. Ya I think I would be better off staying away from chainsaws and other sharp tools. LOL
I have a sharpener but is smaller than this. It's like the Drimmel. It can be run of the top of a car battery. I have had it now for years and I never used it. Hell I never tried to learn. I seen these at Harbor Freight too and I use one like yours at ACE Hardware when I worked their a few years back. I need to do a short video on the little sharpener but I need to learn how to use it 1st. LOL
Yes do a vid on it because a buddy uses one like yours and loves it . It does a great job and he can sharpen a chain fast and it's portable as its run off his atv or truck battery. Great idea Calvin.
I bought a harbor freight ultrasonic cleaner that I throw my chains in before grinding them. A little simple green or purple power cleaner works great for getting the gunk off the chains.
Thanks a great idea. Cheers John
I use an old aluminum deep roasting pan and fill it with hot water and add Dawn dish soap, throw in a bunch of chains and swish it around a bit. Dont be stingy on the soap and it works well. I also load up the grinding wheel with candle wax which prevents buildup.
Just use brake clean on them like Eric O. would! haha! I have a harbor freight chain sharpener. This sharpener seems more heavy duty then the HF. It works pretty dang good. Nice video Steve.
Lots of people use the $100 sharpener and they work fine. I bet Eric pays $1 a can for brake clean , if he was paying $6 a can he might cut back a bit. LOL
$100 ? I only paid $24.99 for mine!
HAHA only in America
Looks a whole lot better than using a file!!!!
Oh man my file days are over LOL I just throw on a fresh chain and sharpen it at home , takes a couple of minutes a chain. Cheers Chris
I have a bunch of chains to sharpen. I can do it by hand - they are razor sharp and maintain really close to the original cutting profile but it takes a long time. Is there a machine that sharpens both the top cutting edge, (which you can see at the 6:30 mark) and the interior curved edge and gets really close to the original cutting profile? Like my files do? Most shops I've seen change the profile and they sure seem to dull much faster.
I think the wheel would need to be at a very flat angle, or the chain would need to roll over a curved guide to expose the cutting edge more.
Sorry if my questions are not clear.
This machine does all the angles you want . I do mine myself because I too have taken chains to a shop to get sharpened and as you can see I'm much further ahead doing it myself . This machine has already paid for itself for all the money I would have paid a shop to do.
If you mean the shape of grind in the side plate, this can be influenced by the way that the grinding wheel is dressed / shaped. The rear adjustment / head position relatively affects the top plate angle, from vertical axis. The horizontal, by the front.
Hope, make sense. Tecommec, manufacture for Oregon.
very nice machine i normally do mine by hand but that would be a lot easier
By hand is how I did it for years and its just fine but eventually you have to correct the angles on a grinder , at least I had to. This is much better and easier on my arms :)
Does the tooth length match right side to left precisely WITHOUT resetting the chain stop? I notice the chain appeared to be rising up out of the clamp as you lowered the cutting head, is that how it is supposed to be?
Yes , left or right matches the same angle . The clamp does move a bit but nothing to be concerned with. It's sharpens very well. Cheers 👍
@@SteveRobReviews I assembled a Super Jolly today and re-sharpened four 72 drive link chisel chain loops that I had already hand filed. The electric worked very well AND I was impressed with my hand sharpening too since the machine just "kissed" them. I did manage to ruin one tooth. I used a CBN blade that I ordered sperpate. I use kerosine with a product called GUNK added to it to clean chains.
Awesome bud , it's a tool for life 👍
I have a guy that charges me 5 bucks to sharpen my chains. As much as I need it done I'll just let him do it. Nice machine tho thanks for sharing.
Seems $5 bucks is about the price of most items in America except loader tires . Up here $5 bucks won't buy you squat. LOL
Five bucks with that rifle of yours and ya got meat all year.
what type of stones are you using on the machine
They are specific stones just for chainsaw sharpening. They come in different widths to match the chain in various brands.
couple ideas to add... buy chains in quantity of 10. use as you need. ...and save the dull ones till winter when you can sharpen on such a machine. good tip about not taking too much off....with that stone running you can ruin the temper at the tips if you grind too hard too fast
I was doing that with a company called Cutters Choice in Canada but an American company bought them out raised their prices and cant even use their web site , it's a USA web site only. Not buying from them any more. I have enough to last me a while .
STEVE ROB I use Frawley's saw shop. ... www.loggerchain.com. or leftcoastsupply or contact nate at "fordf150" on arboristsite. ...just got some chains from him. all suppliers are extra notchy
Does not ship to Canada like most retailers because of the costs. Baileys will but it's too expensive to even look at as well. Were too small of a market and shipping here is uncompetitive. Free trade my ass. LOL
Now now. I smell gas.
MostlymoparIH hahahahaha
I have the same sharpener and i was wondering how you kept it looking like it just came out of the box,,Not a metal filling to be seen,,cause mine has stuff all over it,,,
I put spray a light film of silicone on it prevent any debris from sticking.
I was wondering the same thing lol
WD40 or anti-spatter spray you would use when welding works the best. Keeps the surface spatter free 👍
FastWax FW1 works great as well. Even does a number against fingerprints and dust. My boat motor hasn't taken a single water spot after months of sitting in the shed and several days with water drops drying on it, just wipe it once with a soft towel and it looks as good as new (actually looks better than when I got the motor).
You didn’t show the slide adjustment under the turret that gives adjustment to file incline angle, do you use this. I haven’t seen this adjustment on any other sharpner
I'm not sure what slide adjustment your referring to . The left/right swing of the chain only has a tightening knob to prevent it from moving.
If you have a look at the sharpener it has yellow gradients to indicate the angle in degree. At the front of the turret it moves to 35degreees left and right but if you have a look at the side view of the sharpener there’s a yellow strip under the turret that gives 0 to 15 degrees forward and backward. So if you loosen the big black knob under the turret you can move the turret clockwise and anticlockwise and forward and back. The forward and back movement emulates a file angle of 0 to 15 degrees
@@colzer28 Yes ok I understand now , absolutely you must set the angles to the specific chain or cut your own custom angles for different wood or cutting uses .
great video by the way . Can you send me the info on that sharpener we spend a lot of time sharping blades
its of i found it thanks steve
Keith I bought mine from a company called Cutters Choice . Was on sale at $499 till may 31 , they go on sale a lot but look around, its one of the best and saves a lot of time if your going thru a lot of chains. Cheers
thanks buddy
My chainsaw is 48 years old and only on it's second chain. I just sharpened it a few weeks ago with a file because if felt guilty.
HAHA Now that would be a terrific vid showing off the chainsaw. 48 years old wow thats a machine.
Can you clarify if you still have to manually file the depth gauge?
Nope , the machine can take down the chain rakers too if that's what your referring to.
@@SteveRobReviews Sweet, thanks. Yes, depth gauges the same as rakers. Does it do it in the same pass? Or another operation?
Stefan you have to just set the depth once then just move from one raker to the next. On my 16 inch chain it takes about 2 minutes tops.
@@SteveRobReviews Awesome, thanks. That makes it especially worth investing in then. Most reviews never mention the raker set being possible, but it is a very important part of sharpening and effective cutting.
You swap out the wheel from the cutter wheel to the depth gauge/raker wheel (same wheel you shape for large chains). You can lower the depth gauge/raker on both sides of the chain in one pass.
Putting the chain in fuel is what my dad always did. Have no idea what Mike does, never paid attention! Saws are not my favorite thing. My dad has a big McCulloch. That looks pretty nifty.
That is more common than one would think. Been there LOL
I sharpen by hand with a round file. After sharpen 3 or 4 times the angles and geometry will be all screwed up. Harbor Freight as bad as it is will get the geometry and angle back into uniform consistency although couldn't get it sharp. One of two strokes with a hand file afterwords get it into scary sharp. That Jolly grinder looks like a winner, if I had not cut down all my trees I would have look further into it. Thanks for the upload, nice video.
Thanks for taking a look and I can't sharpen a chain with a file as good as this machine if my life depended on it . LOL
that one seems more high tech than mine
They all do a pretty good job but this one has almost no vibration and the auto vice. Great rig but pricey compare to a $100 P/Auto machine. For most the $100 rig does great.
can you do square grind with this?
I never tried , be a good question for the manufacturer
@@SteveRobReviews The Oregon machines are similar design geometry. Oregon chap on video, said no. They make a square ground chain, but not able to use their machines to sharpen.
Understand, one needs a Simminton, Foley, Stihl USG type. There may be more makers available
On the right there s another measure gauge what have u that at ...on your right st side
30 degrees Jack.
@@SteveRobReviews no the one one marked on side 15 forward or 15 back 0 in middle ...where have you your set
@@2005daisey Ok Jack now I know what you're referring too :) That is on a fixed track that only moves the table in or out so its not moving left to right in degrees but it uses the arc of the stone to achieve a compound angle with the table that swing from left to right. . I use the chart that came with the grinder for different chains but most of the time its at 10.
@@SteveRobReviews good thanks only just got mine was making sure sound
Jack this style does not have a tilting vise so it uses the position of the grinding wheel to do the same. I like to experiment with cutting angles as it sure makes a huge difference in performance compared to stock angles. On my small 35cc saw I dont change a thing but on my 73cc saw I can get quite aggressive on the cut :) Its a great machine to fine tune a cutting tooth and get it razor sharp edge. Cheers
Price how much?
Available india?
$350.00 Canadian dollars and yes sold world wide .
Wow,,, Is there a tool you DON"T have? LOL...
HAHA um yes , can't have too many guitars either I bet. LOL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You nailed it LOL. I'll always need one more....... or 2,,,,, or 3 HAHAHAHA