*I had NO IDEA!* The Most Gangster Politician Ever-Cassius Marcellus Clay by The Fat Electrician
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Small correction: America was not "that last hanger-on" when it came to abolishing slavery. We were only the sixth country on Earth to formally outlaw the practice of keeping slaves (only beaten by Britain, France, Mexico, Denmark, and Portugal). A lot of people get confused on this point when they see how many countries outlawed the slave TRADE before the U.S. abolished slavery, or who partially outlawed it in specific areas. Outlawing the Slave Trade just means that you've made it illegal to buy or sell slaves across international borders. It does NOT mean that it is illegal to buy, sell or own slaves within the borders of that country. For reference, the U.S. outlawed the slave trade in 1808, but it was still legal to keep slaves in the U.S. until 1865. Anyway, at that time, aside from those six countries, the laws of every other country on the planet allowed slavery in one form or another. The actual last holdout was Saudi Arabia, where slavery was not legally abolished until 1963.
The Empire of Brazil banned the owning of slaves in 1888... then the former slave owners immediately overthrew the government and banished the Emperor to Paris.
@@prestonjones1653 Similar thing happened when the Ottomans caved to British pressure to at least partially outlaw slavery. Not only the slave owners, but the common free citizens were so outraged that they rioted, lynched the government officials who had announced the Sultan's decree, and only stopped short of overthrowing the Sultan because he immediately backed down and reversed his anti-slavery decree. Slavery wouldn't be fully outlawed in the territories of the Ottoman Empire until 1924, when the new Turkish constitution finally outlawed harem-slaves, eunuchs and other sex-slaves.
Indeed
The last holdout? There are still 167 countries that still allow slavery.
@@JoeBidenHatesU No, chattel slavery is banned in its entirety. There is no country on Earth where it is legal to actually own a human being as property, and Saudi Arabia was the last country on the planet to ban the practice.
Modern Slavery exists, but it is always either hidden behind some sort of legal fig leaf, or confined to the illegal black market, like the girls that are STILL quietly kidnapped and taken as illegal harem-slaves by rich Arabs. That's right, the plot of the movie "Taken" is actually real, and horrifically common. The only part of that movie that was pure fantasy was the heroic ex-assassin father swooping in to save the day.
Those slave miners in Africa who dug up most of the rare minerals needed to make your smart phone? Officially, they either don't exist or are voluntary employees. Never mind the fact that they don't get paid, and the armed guards who shoot the miners that try to leave. Similarly, the Southeast Asian migrant workers enslaved in the Arab world are all officially voluntary employees. Never mind the fact that their "employer" seizes their travel documentation on arrival, charges them exorbitant rates for room and board, while paying them as little as possible, and forces them to stay and work to "pay off their debt". While it is textbook Debt Peonage, officially it's all voluntary on the worker's part and they can leave anytime they want (hint: they can't).
The only reason modern enslavers bother with secrecy or these legal cover stories is because what they are doing is, in fact, illegal in every nation.
Cassius Marcellis Clay is the individual referenced in the "I carry a Musket for Home Defence!" meme
He's not referenced in it, but he is no doubt the inspiration for it.
@@noneedtoknow07 The meme literaly talks about a cannon at the top of some stairs. Literally what Cassius Clay did. It's a reference.
"Tally-ho Lads!"
Fuck that he carried a cannon. Lets see someone try owning a howitzer at home today... to fight off home invasions xD and they say the 2nd ammendment was for hunting xD.
This dude's life sounds like a script written by Quentin Tarantino and Guy Ritchie on a cocaine bender and I'm all up for it
Literally too awesome to be a real dude... except he was absolutely a real dude and he was even more awesome than that. Love this shit. We need more statues of this guy.
These are the stories nobody has the balls to write into fiction cause unless you can show he actually pulled it off for real, critics will rip apart the plot as "bad writing" xD
Cassius Clay: *being born*
God: *Granting him plot armor* "You're about to do the funniest thing."
*Things
Can you imagine a teenage TFE giving an oral history report in middle school in front of a school assembly? Total mic-drop. :)
His reg World History teacher absolutely has to be proud as fuck.
If more history teachers made highlights like this more interesting we would have more interest as a whole in history. I love history, and know most of his stories… it’s not the story that I watch, it’s how he tells it.
@@geraldprechtelmeyers2319 History was an art class for me. I barely payed enough attention to pass because it was dry and boring to me at the time. Like for example if Cassias Clay was ever mentioned in any of my history classes it was extremely brief and I missed it. Had Nick been my teacher I know doubt woulda been a history nerd.
@@lanejohnson7656 it’s very sad how much of our history will be lost because of not inspiring curiosity. I had a teacher in 7th and 8th grade who tried to ruin it for me. So I turned it into a game of I know more than you and I’ll prove it for two years
@@lanejohnson7656 it’s very sad how much of our history will be lost because of not inspiring curiosity. I had a teacher in 7th and 8th grade who tried to ruin it for me. So I turned it into a game of I know more than you and I’ll prove it for two years
Actually, America was one of the first western nations to abolish slavery, and in terms of its time as a sovereign nation, did it sooner than any other, abolishing slavery in under 100 years since its founding
did it sooner as to it's founding but that's it. Britain abolished slavery in 1833, France in 1840 something...it took us another 25 years, and 800,000 dead before we would do the same.
@nadjasunflower1387 I don't think they had to deal with an elitist political class that financially is glued to slavery or at least one as influential as US's.
@Bob_uselessnumbershere But were they glued to slavery like the southern plantation owner was? There are similarities, but the British nobles existed well before slavery became big and had other sources of income and power.
@@nadjasunflower1387 And yet both wanted to support the south anyway. Meaning they supported the practice longer then the north.
@@notanoob8163 yup...cause that's where all their cheap cotton was coming from. My point wasn't to try an prop them up. but to counter his that we were one of the first...
we were not, far from it, we were one of the last. due in large part to the points made after me.
"Your Honor, surely you'd agree that this so-called 'mayhem' was nothing more than standard behavior for a Kentuckian."
The Kentucky defense. We need to see a modern day case where some enterprising defense attorney tries this for a Florida Man.
18:27 I think Lincoln wanted to win the war first, THEN sign the Emancipation Proclamation.
Yep
ive never heard that, and ive read many many books on the civil war, lincoln, etc. and every single one of them says he already had the emancipation proclamation ready and was anxious to sign it (of his own volition) but wanted to do so after a victory in battle so it didnt look like a desperate move made simply because the north was losing
Not sure if i believe this fantastic claim about cassius clay persuading him by refusing the major generalship, doesnt make a lot of sense and theres no reason why lincoln would be that desperate to name clay a major general
@@austinlittke7688 the real history of Lincoln and slavery is summed up in his quote that says, in paraphrase, he was willing to do anything to maintain the union. Whether that was emancipation or preservation of slaves. Lincoln was not an abolishionist.
@@iNSANE0621 Actually lincoln was an abolitionist at heart, what you mean is he wasnt an abolitionist politically (which is how he was elected over everyone else). I'm well aware of that quote obviously, and im not sure what your point is as its irrelevant to the point under discussion made by the OP, unless you're taking the stance Lincoln was against the emancipation proclamation and a more egalitarian place in society for blacks, which is not worthy of responding to.
@@austinlittke7688 I was just adding some perspective to Lincoln that most people aren't aware of. I don't understand the snobbery that you deemed necessary in your reply. Normal conversation doesn't hold to specific topics. This isn't a performative debate. And I promise you would have way more to say about my real views of Lincoln lmao. And it has nothing to do with slavery.
i may be Agnostic but this man's life story is one of if not the strongest argument of there being a god that is "good"
@16:55 Yeah, Britain and France really wanted the Confederacy to win, for a couple of reasons. On the economic end, both countries' economies relied heavily on cheap cotton from the Southern states (who were the biggest producers of cotton in the world at the time) to fuel their textile industries (at the time, one of the most important and profitable industries on earth), and they were worried that the end of American slavery would see a spike in cotton prices that could badly damage their economies.
On the strategic end, both countries (but especially Britain) really wanted to see a rival country to the U.S. succeed on the North American Continent. They could see the writing on the wall that the U.S. was on track to becoming a superpower if nothing changed. We were just too big, too organized, and too rich, and they knew that eventually, the U.S. would overtake them in power, wealth and influence. They had originally hoped that Mexico or Canada could keep the U.S. in check, but Canada had too few people, and the Mexican-American War had proven that Mexico was too poor, too corrupt, and too disorganized to be a real contender for power on the continent.
Enter the Confederacy, and Britain saw it as an opportunity to break the U.S.' chances of overtaking their Empire as a world power. The problem for both the British and the French Governments was that they had outlawed slavery decades earlier, and the overwhelming majority of their people were very strongly anti-slavery. So they couldn't give the appearance of cheering on the Confederacy too hard, or they would face political consequences from angering their own people. So instead, they did little things to help out, like sending fast ships to run the Union blockade and sell guns to the Confederacy in exchange for cotton. They also strung the Confederacy along with vague promises of diplomatic and military aid if the Confederates could win just a couple more major victories to prove they were worth the effort.
But without Tzar Alexander II of Russia, they would likely have been much bolder, and might have actually intervened more heavily in the Confederacy's favor. The Tzar was well known as a social reformer, and he had just presided over the abolition of serfdom in the Russian Empire, and had pushed through huge social reforms meant to fight the incredible inequalities in Russian society. Alexander II was personally offended by the very notion of slavery, and made for a very enthusiastic ally when Cassius Clay convinced him to act as a check on Britain and France. Not only did he threaten them with war if they intervened in any way, he actually sent fleets of Russian warships to San Francisco and New York, with sealed orders that if the British or the French intervened in the war, they should consider themselves at war with them, and should immediately proceed to destroy any British or French ships they could find.
The Russian battle fleet sailing into New York Harbor as a show of the Tzar's unconditional support for the Union cause was one of the most awesome moments in the entire Civil War, and it NEVER gets talked about in schools.
Indeed
Honestly, I ciuld also see Mexico becoming involved in the American civil war to stop the Confederacy since they'd know they'd be next. Mexico would get most of its former territory back and boy, the US would have one massive grudge against the British and the French.
@@CountDVB As far as I can tell, the Confederacy never had much interest in Mexico. That's not to say they never would have if they had survived as a nation, but there was no sense that Mexico was "next". Plus, Mexico couldn't really intervene, because they were busy being repeatedly invaded (1863, and again in 1864) by the French, who were trying to put Maximillian I, a Habsburg monarch, onto the newly created Mexican Imperial Throne. The French actually succeeded the second time, and the Empire of Mexico existed as a Constitutional Monarchy until Maximillian was overthrown and executed by firing squad in 1867.
@@rmartinson19 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Golden_Circle
There was some interest
I didn't know that. Thanks!
This man is the definition of "I Want Problems, Always!" Good chaotic good energy, just wanting to win the fight not just to prove a point, but to just effing win
Having worked in Brazil for 15 years, South America had some segments of slavery until the 1920s... and even today they still support "semi slavery" where you can work for a person, and live on their property where they charge you rent and food/clothing expenses higher than the weekly wage...but you cannot quit until you pay the rest of your debt.
The UN lists an estimated 30,000,000 slaves in 2020, and an additional 20,000,000 trafficked into arranged/purchased marriages. The estimated number of slaves freed at the end of the civil war was 5,000,000... yes in fact there are 10 times as many trafficked slaves today.
"Wolverine of nonsense" I love it XD
You have to remember that New Orleans wasn't always the bastion of righteous and law-abiding people that it is today. There is some dark history on those streets.
Chicago? My former home town. if that's where you live, you should definitely watch the story of the capture of the U-505. "Grand Theft U-boat."
War was a bit different in the 19th century and back at least in the western countries...From what I know Asia was bit more hardcore. There was a what was seen as an honorable way of doing things, if you get captured you are expected to behave, if you take prisoners you treat them with respect. This was only for uniformed formal armies though.
This was one of reason's we didn't have too big of an armed resistance movement post Civil War after the South officially surrendered.
Also other countries were while not involved in the Civil War were interested in the outcome. Yes France and Britain abolished slavery, but they also liked the cheap (due to slave labor) American cotton. Hence why Clay convinced Russia to put pressure on them.
The North catching British officials in a secret meeting with the South actually helped us claim a disputed island in the northwest between the US and Canada. Which has it's own kind of nutty story behind it. Long story short we almost went to war with Britain over pig murder.
You probably never heard of him because almost everyone in the upper echelons of our education system don't want you to know about him and people like him. This is in the same vein with most of the things that you learn in school being useless.
Agreed. And I think there's other factors playing into it as well; it's a lot easier to talk about someone who's credited with a historic achievement. Cassius Clay was a boss-level influencer in a time when figures were being celebrated for accomplishments. History teachers would rather talk about great deeds than great men.
17:04 This is precisely why the Confederates had a very hard time acquiring guns, ammo etc. The South lacked industry, and no one was willing to sell to them.
"Picasso this guys face" that is funny as shit
If u enjoyed this, the fat electrician has some great historical stories that are incredible. Maybe how ww3 almost got kicked off over a tree, or how the u.s. navy destroyed half of Iran's navy in one work day. But the story of Sgt reckless, the marine war horse , is really cool. Good content, keep it up!
The World War Tree vid is a definite winner. So is Sgt. Reckless and the demise of half the Iraqi navy in the course of a regular work day. Some of his videos on military units and specialties are worth watching too.
She did the Sarnt reckless a few days ago.
@@johngillespie3409 I thought so.
Cassius's anti slavery position didn't ruin his family relationships.
Also, One thing they don't teach about is the "noble slave owners" They would buy slaves, treat them better than free workers then release them with a cash stipend.
yea.. sure
@@Gabryal77 Feel free to do some of your own research. I used to live in a town that was an exit point of the underground railroad.
The only thing you would have heard of him for was being the ambassador who worked out the deal with Russia for Alaska
i thought that was seward, seward's folly. Do they just call it that cus he actually approved it after it was worked out?
I know Chicago has a different definition of gangster politician...
The Chicago way 💪
@@johngillespie3409 Detroit just rolled it's collective eyes.
America was not the last country with slavery.
I dont know where people get this idea from
Assassin: So ... who do you want me to kill?
Slave owners: Cassius Clay.
Assassin: ... ****** this ****** im out!
looks at dossier "Nope"
Turned down the job faster than the Eagle from the Angry Birds movie 😂
Look, sometimes you have to just recognize that you're opponent is straight-up way more badass than you.
Could you please do Wjotek the Polish war Bear and the bonus facts videos, they are short but there's 2 by the fat electrician.
I have watch almost every video tis man has made, if he was my history teacher I would never have missed a day.
A huge fat electrician fan. This is one of my favorite stories. And you did an awesome review. Thank you and continue being a badass. Warpig53gulf out.
Remember the movie, Tombstone, about Wyatt Earp? They should make the same movie, but about Cassius ;)
Brazil officially abolished slavery in 1888, Mauritania on the other hand did not abolish slavery until 1981, but slavery still exists in the form of prison slavery in a number of countries, depending on the exact lens used. The last country to "abolish" slavery, was Mauritania in 1981, but though a presidential declaration was put in place declaring it illegal, to date, no legal repercussions exist for those who still engage in the practice of slavery. The United States was _not_ the last country to abolish slavery.
Some reports show it to still be legal in dozens of countries as of 2020.
Keep them coming, love your reactions to TFE content
TFE is one of , if not the best story tellers on the internet!
love the reaction, but i gota say..... i need that cup lol
Im from NOLA, look into it Dark history on those streets
at first Lincoln's only concern was the preservation of the Union.
The reason Abraham Lincoln was so cautious at that point was that in 1862, the Union hadn't had many victories and it still looked like the South could actually win. He didn't want the slavery border states of Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware to secede and go over to the Confederacy either, especially given that this would make Washington completely surrounded by the Confederate States on all sides. Lincoln waited until after the Union victory at Antietam to issue the Emancipation Proclamation in September 1862 declaring that only enslaved people held in states in rebellion against the United States would be "thenceforth and forever free" beginning on 1st January 1863. He hadn't yet freed the slaves in the Union slave states because he was still concerned that they might rebel so he did things gradually. Another person you should read about is Thaddeus Stevens. He's portrayed in the movie "Lincoln" by Tommy Lee Jones and the things Tommy Lee Jones says in the House of Representatives in the movie are real life quotes from Thaddeus Stevens taken from minutes of House debates. You can find a few scenes with him on youtube.
You also have to understand a few other things about Slavery on this continent, WHEN the British colonies were established, slavery was NOT allowed for a very long time, it was not until the year of 1618 an immigrat from what we know today as Senegal named Anthony Johnson, was a Black Tobacco farmer in Virginia, petitioned the British King William the 1st, to allow him to OWN one of his servants that he brought with him at "GREAT EXPENSE" with him from Senegal, another Black man named John Castor, and in 1619 King William sent the letter that would be used to enslave the first slave on this continent, and then he used that letter from the King to take ownership of more than 100 others, and then many other land and plantation owners also cited the King's letter as precident and that is how the slave trade began on this continent, 1 black man wanted to enslave another Black man, and the King said that it was OK to do so, now The United States SHOULD HAVE been the first to shed off that evil practice, but thanks to the Anti-Federalist party, later to be known as the Democratic-Republican party, later to be known as the Democratic party, to finally be known as the Democrat party, this DID NOT happen with the ratification of the Constitution of The United States of America as it was supposed to and was planned to, BUT the United States WAS NOT even close to being the "LAST" to outlaw slavery in it's borders, MANY countries kept the practice going for many many years after the United States finally got rid of it, and even TODAY, there are countries on the African Continent that slavery still exists, and truth be told, slavery still exists TODAY here in the U.S. and it is still the DemoKKKrats who practice it, but it is so subtle, that no one seems to want to call it what it is, but it is still slavery! it is disgusting, and divisive, IF we truly want to finally shed off this evil called slavery and END racism once and for all, the DemoKKKrat party must be done away with PERMANANTLY. you also have to keep in mind, SLAVERY WAS NOT EVER a Black and White thing, as MOST people portray it to be, when the Civil war started, 56% of slave owners were in fact White, which means that 44% of them were in fact Black, also what no one talks about, 72% of slaves were Black, which means that 28% of slaves were in fact White, so slavery had virtually NOTHING to do with skin color, since both Black and White slave owners, owned both Black and White slaves, this is a DEMOKKKRAT institution, that persists even today!
Muhammad Ali was a Jr so both he and his father were named after this abolitionist. And then he changed his name because he somehow got the idea that having an abolitionist's name meant he had a slave's name. I think he was just trying to make the irony so palpable that he could use it instead of a punching bag.
If the name Cassius Clay sounds familiar, it's _probably_ because of the boxer, yeah. Probably the most famous boxer of all time, or second-most, if you count Rocky Balboa even though he's fictional. (Not that boxing is a particularly big sport these days, but it must have been bigger at some point in time, because the English language draws a disturbingly large number of idioms from it, more than from any other sport with the _possible_ exception of baseball.) It's more likely that you've heard of Henry Clay in his own right (since he ran for President on three distinct occasions), than his brother Cassius.
Oh, yeah they *definitely* had hitmen in nineteenth-century New Orleans; it was one of the most gangster cities on the planet at the time. In the twentieth century it was eventually outdone by Los Angeles.
Incidentally, he doesn't say this in the video, but emancipationists outnumbered abolitionists by a considerable margin, even in the North. (In the Deep South, they were of course both outnumbered by the pro-slavery camp, which itself was divided into more and less extreme factions: some of them just wanted to ensure that as many new slave states were added as free states to preserve the balance of power in the senate so that slavery could not be made illegal nationwide; but there were also more heavily pro-slavery positions than that; at the most extreme end, there were even a few people who were deeply offended that it was legal anywhere in the world for a black person to be free.)
Lincoln did want slavery to end, but in the short term he had larger concerns. That sounds callous, but you have to understand that at the time, a substantial portion of the world still considered the whole idea of representative elected governments to be a radical (or possibly even perverse) experiment, essentially tantamount to anarchy and doomed to inevitable failure; Lincoln was concerned that if the United States, by far the most prominent such nation, fell apart, then the whole world might give up on the idea and *nobody* would be free ever again (apart from the ruling elite). So his top priority was preserving the nation, and he figured that if he could manage that, then slavery would eventually be done away as well (because the North was clearly economically stronger than the South and its model would be more successful). Maybe he was wrong, but his position is very understandable if you know the relevant history of his time.
Exactly
New Orleans, vampire country.
You should do the the fat electrician A1 skyraider
2:28 The problem though is to figure what the right side of history is. In history things often go back and forth over time, from bad to good, and then to bad again. So what might look like the right direction now may turn out to be the wrong one. After all if you look at history you will find that the people who supported things that ended up having terrible consequences often thought it was the right thing to do.
Nice to see someone who does not take a definitiv stance on what they would have done in a situation theyve never been in before. Finally some self awareness
He was in his 80s and hot another knife kill. Built different.
It was the Western World (Britian, France, Germany, Russia, and the United States, among others) that lead the charge to end slavery starting in the 1770's and picking up really around 1800 and continuing through the 1940's. In Britain, most working class, and middle-class citizens didn't support slavery and in turn they would vote in representation in the House of Commons that supported financing naval squadrons off the coasts of Africa and in the Mediterranean. The slave supporting class in Britain was made up of cotton mill owners, and overseas colonial slave owners who would fight tooth and nail to try and win over the abolitionists.
You have to consider along the babery coast, and even parts of Africa that still have slavery of Muslims enslaving and masacres of Christian. And also America to most Countries are still a young Nation, and Slavery was dominately only in the South, especially during Leading up to the Civil War. That we all no Brother against brothers, Father's against sons all fought and killed one another over Slavery that represented Southern wealth with slaves as property. This is why Casieus Clay story of his fight against Slavery that much more Incredible.
Please do more of his content! I'd love to see you watch his video about Jake "Mcnasty" Mcniece
Higher education doesn’t want you to know about him. That’s why.
Okay one thing Cassius Clay's father was actually a republican (at the time republicans where the ones against slavery) but he was an emancipationist (he wanted to basically integrate slaves into society overtime) he treated his slaves extremely well for the situation they where in (much more freedom, treated like humans, good living conditions). Things where complex at the time and there was an argument that keeping African Americans as slaves in certain areas did aid in protecting them. No one was going to impede or "damage" the slaves of an extremely wealthy slave owner (they can't work they are not making money). Also on a side note Cassius was the youngest son of his father (so really telling that he got the inheritance)
Very, very Good Video and Reactions. I'm like that Man, so People tell me. They say I'm a Leg end.
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The "Catch" to Cassius Clay is barely even a catch, but it's still notable.
At the end of his life, Its written in his Biography (Cassius Clay:Firebrand of Freedom. I recommend it, not 100% accurate but also super close and really good) that he started becoming a bit Racist, violent, paranoid, and ended up Marrying a 15 year old in his 80s or 90s.
If you stop reading there, it sounds really bad. However, there is 1 detail that excuses ALL of that behavior. He was Diagnosed with Dementia and PTSD.
His violence and paranoia led to him turning whitehall (his manor) into a Fort, and he even started calling it such. He believed constantly that someone was after him due to the wars and Assassination attempts he had to fight through.
As for the Racism and Marrying a 15 year old, there are 2 things. Number One, neither of these things were SUPER weird at the time. The Marriage was a little strange but not super weird. But it mostly comes down to Demetia. Dementia has a bad habit of melting away/reversing your beliefs sometimes even, and one of it's least known, rarest, and most depressing side effects is that it can cause you to mentally regress into a child. Cassius Clay's Dementia took a man who believed that all were equal and made him racist. It took a talented, work focused man and mentally reverted him into a child. Reportedly, when that moment of clarity came at the end of his life, he sent his wife away to a different home he owned in shame.
Also, sad but amazing fact, the night Cassius Clay died was basically evidence that some divine being sent him here. The very night he passed, a storm raged through his farmland nearby but specifically didn't hurt anyone. And the exact moment the storm stopped, lightning struck the head of the statue in his yard, knocking it clean off. A worker checked on him a few moments later, and the Great General Clay was no more. Due to warmth of the body, there's a solid chance that he died the exact moment that lightning hit and the storm ended.
Mr. Wagner's AP...sensing a little salt lol
America wasn't the last hanger on to Abolish Slavery, there were still many other countries that still had slavery after that including some that still has it today. Including Africa.
5:00 Of course his father knew, his sons both became anti slavery and I think its no accident, you do have to remember that there were a few slaveholders who were like Thomas Jefferson and had a complicated relationship with the topic. Their father likely was the same. I say likely since as far as I know there has yet to be discovered a journal of his private thoughts.
Abraham Lincoln was a vampire hunter right?
sounds right to me
I'm late to the party, but yeah...all that's true. And The Fat Electrician is getting a degree to become a history teacher.
Most other countries had abolished slavery accept in their colonies where it was still legal
"Middle Age is when the broad mind and narrow waist change places"
I feel as if you made an assumption that a man would hate his son over an opinion, I've seen fathers and sons had major differences but still love each other.
New Orleans from the 1840s to the 1860s was the third largest city in the United States after New York, and Baltimore. It was a polyglot culture of French and English, and considered to have quite the dark underbelly as the thousands of water ways and small islands around the mouth of the Mississippi were really good for smuggling and other illicit activities as well as having a population that didn't trust the authorities very much due to the whole, being a lot of French speakers ruled by English speakers, a situation known to the state officials of Louisiana which treated New Orleans with a light touch. That's why they got an assassin from New Orleans. These are also some of the reasons that the USA managed to take New Orleans relatively early in the Civil War, and hold it with a relatively small force despite the huge population, the local populace didn't see a lot of difference between being under Union control versus Confederate control, both seemed equally foreign
The reason we don't know of Clay is because he was a Republican.
I have watched all of Fat Electrician's videos and it just reminds me of my Grandpa's stories. Some I cannot say on here, but it is all good. For my Grandpa fought in WWII in the Pacific in the Marines and his Brother Fought in Europe. But maybe 1 day a country will not need our foot in their ass. I mean, do these other countries know that if they did not fuck with us. Then we would not need to stick our foot in their ass. But it is not as simple as all of that any more.
Wait, you still on Chicago reacts?
America was not the last to abolish slavery
Awesome, love your wrap up. It's just like the F.E. said (paraphrase) people doing horrible things for terrific reasons. I'm thinking that, as F.E. said, CMC was overlooked by the p.c. historians (pussies) as too rough and tumble for possible adoration by the masses and likely to also cement Lincoln's place in history as THE anti-slavery martyr.
Did you actually take American history in high school OR Elementary school. William s
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slavery still exists...in Africa. More people are enslaved in Africa today then there ever were slaves in the US.
React to the inconvenient truth of the democratic party🤔
Hi Baltimore, nice shirt. Love Boston, who moved to Rapid City.🧐
CMC was the first Donald Trump.
Do you know the story of Joaquin Murrieta? The real mask of zorro
America was the second or third country to abolish slavery. The first to abolish the trans Atlantic slave trade.
@AmericansLearn Note America wasn't one of the last to abolish slavery. They were in fact one of the first. Britain was the first to abolish slavery and France, Denmark and Portugal joined shortly after. But they only beat the U.S. by about 40 years. Infact a lot of African and Asin Nations still have Slavery. It's called Child Slavery. Making them work long hours with no pay.
Well, when you have an extremely wealthy family you can spend your time doing whatever you want.
Other countries would have gotten involved because a divided north America was a weakened one and so other countries would have been able to take advantage of that.
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fun fact most people think slavery was about race and that black people where the only slaves and white people created and where the only ones taking slaves. when in fact slavery was about money and power and slavery was has been a thing since ancient Egypt 5000 years ago. every civilization (African, native, Asian, western white people) all took slaves. the strong conquered and enslaved the weak. African tribes invaded their weaker neighbors then sold those slaves on the beaches to white and black slave traders. Africa was one of the last places slaves could be bought from. the first slaves in America where the Irish who in fact where white. a lot of the black slaves in America who were set free bought land and bought slaves themselves because slaves wasn't racist like everyone makes it out to be. also there are still slaves in Africa today something like 500 thousand slaves still in Africa more slaves then America ever had during its slave owning time. its sad that today this is not told to people on purpose to keep everyone divided. if everyone is fighting with each other the government has free reign to do whatever they want. but if we all knew the truth (which u can find in old ass history books and in African history they talk about trading and selling slaves to people on ships i believe they called white people "pale of skin" or something like that) we would not have division and the government most likely wouldn't have been able to take some of our rights away for example guns. people like to claim the second amendment was about muskets and we weren't aloud to have cannons. well we were aloud to have cannons thus why some cities still have laws from back then that made it illegal to shoot off cannons in city limits. and our for fathers who wrote the constitution knew guns and technology become more advanced because they just fought a war against Britain who had more advanced cannons and guns then we did thus why they put ARMS not muskets. a well regulated militia did not mean military like people say. a militia was not ran by the government it was every day citizens who had to bring their own cannons and guns to the battle. and well regulated meant well kept, cleaned, maintained, and ammoed guns and cannons. if u believe in gun control ask urself do u trust the government. if ur answer is no they why would u want the government to be the only ones with guns. what if they turn tyrannical cant say it wont happen its happened in just about every nation shortly after they get disarmed. mass shootings only happen in gun free zones because the bad guy who wont follow any law obviously knows no one can stop them. more good guys with a gun stop bad guys with a gun every day then mass shootings yet the media never tells u about the stopping of a shooting just the ones who successfully do a shooting ask urself why is that. it all leads back to the government wants us divided and disarmed because then they know they will never have to worry about the population rising up and removing them from office. with out guns stopping a tyrannical government like our for fathers did becomes next to impossible. our for fathers knew this thus why the first amendment is free speech and the second one is the right to bare arms to protect ourselves and this nation against an outside force and tyrannical government. mass shootings don't happen in Alaska because everyone is armed and they believe an armed society is a polite society. if more people where armed and we focused on mental health more then the guns i bet 100% we could bring down mass shootings which by the way are mainly done with handguns not a rifle hell more people die from hands, feet, hammers, handguns, shotguns, and many other objects then an "assault rifle". sorry for the long thing i just love telling people about history cause with out it we never learn and will end up repeating it in some way. plus its good for people to learn so that way false crap isnt being told because enough of that happens as it is.
There are still slaves around the world 😢2024
"The right side of history" Is such an arrogant term to describe anything, as if history hasn't made heroes of people who've committed genocide even to this day or even worse.
Actually expected for Britai, France and Spain, most of the developed countries still had slavery after we abolished it.
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No was America the last country abolished slavery , Portugal 1869, Bulgaria after free itself from the Ottomans 1879, Cuba 1886, Brazil 1888, Ottoman Empire had Slavery until they were abolished after WWI, their was slavery in many Islamic countries until 90’s and 00’s
He cut off a guy's nose - and gouged his eye out... "What's the thing about him that makes him horrible?"
I dunno, he sounds like an absolute angel!
He shot him!
We didnt hear about this guy because of the lost cause myth. basically after the civil war blew over and most of the people who won it were old, the Democrats (at this point mostly from the south, and members of a certain clan with a K) started to rewrite history incidentally they were all about "education reform" and "scientific humanaism" big names included woodrow wilson and john dewey (as in the dewey decimal system that all libraries still use. so they re wrote the history books shitting on figures like grant and making lincoln out to be just as rascist as the south and erasing anyone else who made them look bad. They also argued that it was never about slavery, that black people were happier as slaves and they just wanted "states rights". This was very normal in public schools across the US, and supported by basically every john wayne western and shirley temple movie. Scholarship didnt really start working this bullshit out until the 1990's and didnt really start effecting textbooks until the early 2000s but by that time, the quality of public education had severely dropped and it became fashionable to attack pretty much everyone who was born before 1900 and impose our values on them. That said what makes Cassius Clay SO baller is that he was so ahead of his time, and was ready to fight about it.
100% wrong on the point that America was last to the abolition of slavery. We were in fact in the top 5 to do it with England being first.
Extra History's John Brown videos are awesome as well, and there are 4 videos roughly 15 minutes each. The man was a true abolitionist zealot, as he took up arms to free slaves to head north while trying to arm those who stayed. He's practically the trigger of the Civil War.
That’s not true at all. France outlawed slavery first , then Great Britain (who only ended slavery hecause Thomas Jefferson ended the Atlantic slave trade ) then America. The America and Britain went and ended slavery everywhere they had colonies.
And considering America had to build a country , keep it together , and fight a few wars before we ended it , I think ending slavery after 80 years was that bad of a record.
Not to mention the plan to weed out slavery was there from the founding.
So you know lady you are very wrong about that America was like the third. majority of American countries which started off as British and French colonies abolished slavery along with there home country. abolish slavey it went France, Great Britain, Francis colonies ,and then United States. there is still slavery today that happens all over Africa in parts of Asia and in Europe. Actually another thing before the uk completely abolished slavery they were colonies in the United States that it already abolished slavery .the whole reason the civil war happened 😊 is because not all of the colonies agreed to abolish slavery so the war happened .but don't get it twisted they were very few countries who abolished slavery before the United States did and the United States was the 2nd full continent to abolish slavery . As I said they're still slavery in Europe today they're still slavery in Asia Africa the only continent that do not have any form of legal slavery today are Australia and North America . Even though Great Britain abolished it they still forced the Australian people to live in British penal colonies in the process of colonization but if it's not call slavery then i guess it not.
If memory serves I’m pretty sure the way the British empire got around it was by referring to it as “indentured servitude” as they were mainly those who were in significant debt and in exchange for eliminating said debt they were to work in labor camps. So since they did technically have a way to freedom the British were able to get away with it not being considered slavery even tho more often then not it absolutely was slavery.
@@raymurray3401 ya you can tell America got to love for loopholes from British but we're just better at exploiting them
Do you know what punctuation is dude? This entire thesis was just one long runon sentence and it hurt my brain to read!.
@@brycealthoff8092 I use voice text , punctuation can be a bitch when you talking to a robot. And I went back and add some not all but it's a little better
Did you watch the 🧀 video yet?
If you’re being honest with yourself, you would probably be for slavery. The idea that slavery was bad was a fairly new idea. And every culture has that ever existed practiced slavery.
If you were growing up at this time you probably wouldn’t care or would support it
#americansLearn USA was not the last hanger on of slavery they were the third country behind Great Britain and then France and then America abolished slavery and together these 3 countries went around the world stopping slavery look up real history
how have you NEVER heard the name "Cassius Clay" when Muhammad Ali literally stole it?
America had a lot of enemies born from it's violent birth, other countries were interested in dividing or toppling the newly established nation and bringing it back into the fold in Britain's case, and the French wanting their own piece of the America's beyond the footholds up north which were contested by UK and Spain.
It wasn't about slavery, which was still definitely a thing in other developed countries and is to this day (UAE/Dubai is an example that immediately pops to mind, plenty of videos talking about that city), it was about land and power, they could have cared less about if we had continued the practice of slavery, or at least it wouldn't have been a main point of their involvement as they likely would have been in support of the Confederacy.
If you're digging the history stuff, Shane Gillis the comedian has a bunch of podcast clips where he breaks down historical events while shooting the shit with either guests or his co-host.
Don't think any of them have video to go with so they're a bit less entertaining than TFE, but Shane has still covered a TON of interesting topics
There are more slaves today than at any point in human history. It is really annoying that people think the problem is solved and feeling self-righteous when the fight is not over by a long shot.
17:17 I mean not really. We're talking about ending an institution that has been normal practice throughout almost the entirety of human history. America technically is one of the last Western countries to abolish slavery but the countries that did abolish it did so within decades of each other.
In the span of the 190,000 years that humans have existed, being a few decades behind a handful of the nations that did abolish slavery isn't the horrible thing you make it out to be. In fact, a lot of the nations that did abolish slavery only did so because the U.K. threatened them with war if they didn't. America ended up doing the right thing on it's own and did so paying a very high cost. And by the way, most of the rest of the world has slavery to this very day.
So maybe you could give our country a bit of credit instead of acting like we're backwards assholes?
You do know who the pro-slavery people were right, no? Well, let me educate you, Democrats, and or the democratic political party.
If emancipationist were used and we voted it out over time, history would have been a lot different. For one, the Civil War wouldn't have happened. And let's clarify things. Lincoln didn't give a damn about freeing slaves because of their right to be free. He only did it to end the war. He once said that if he could end the war without freeing any slaves he would. If he could end the war with freeing only some of the slaves then he would also. He just wanted the war to end.
Outside of LIncoln's anti slavery position he was a horrible president. He violated the rights of soo many people. But as usual the gop is the better party to support when the status quo candidates are ignored.
The rights of traitors are forfeit.
@@Mare_Man They should have their day in court. Otherwise you end up with the star chambers that made the laws in the UK so abusive.
Kinda why our federal courts and family courts and fisa courts are so biased. Granted that doesn't even get into the punishment for prosecutors who violate the rights of citizens. Because if the citizen wins they end up with a non issue because they won.
Nothing Abraham Lincoln did was horrible.
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@@chaosXP3RT He ordered the largest scale domestic massacre of American civilians. The only person who jailed more journalists was Obama. Lincoln suspended the constitution. He also destroyed the concept of federalism from the country. The only issue that is left for the states to trump the federal government is about parental rights.