Why is there only one pub left on London's Oxford Street?

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
  • A slightly different video today: examining how Oxford Street went from 27 pubs in the 1890s to just a single pub left today. Fear not though, I threw in a few extra pubs along the way which are still open so there's still some of the usual look at pub history, exteriors and interiors but with a much greater than usual focus on pubs which no longer exist.
    More links than you can shake a stick at:
    A 1
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Flying Horse
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    whatpub.com/pubs/WLD/16027/fl...
    pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs/66
    historicengland.org.uk/listin...
    Boar and Castle
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_...
    Man Loaded with Mischief
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    Old Queen's Head
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    Black Horse
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    Bird in Hand
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    American Stores
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Queen's Arms
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/W...
    Green Man
    whatpub.com/pubs/WLD/16500/gr...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gre...
    historicengland.org.uk/listin...
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/W...
    Wheatsheaf
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/W...
    Crown
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/W...
    Plume of Feathers
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/W...
    Scotch Stores
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Dolphin / H. Appenrodt
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    Noah's Ark
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    Spread Eagle
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    whatpub.com/pubs/WLD/16081/sp...
    Horse and Groom
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    Clarendon
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Hog in the Pound
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    www.bygoneboozers.co.uk/post/...
    Victory
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    King and Queen
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Oxford Stores
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Union
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Duke of Gloucester
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/S...
    Delaware Arms
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    City of Quebec
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Carpenter's Arms
    whatpub.com/pubs/WLD/15946/ca...
    londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/M...
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:35 A 1
    1:11 Flying Horse
    3:13 Boar and Castle
    3:51 Man Loaded with Mischief
    4:25 Old Queen's Head
    4:59 Black Horse
    5:29 Bird in Hand
    5:49 American Stores
    6:26 Queen's Arms
    6:56 Intermission: Green Man
    8:06 Wheatsheaf
    8:24 Crown
    8:45 Plume of Feathers
    9:42 Scotch Stores
    10:11 Dolphin / H. Appenrodt
    10:54 Noah's Ark
    11:32 Spread Eagle
    12:34 Horse and Groom
    13:19 Clarendon
    13:44 Hog in the Pound
    14:34 Capon and Co
    14:57 Victory
    15:08 King and Queen
    15:23 Oxford Stores
    15:33 Union
    15:48 Duke of Gloucester
    15:59 Delaware Arms
    16:09 City of Quebec
    16:50 Wrapping up: Carpenter's Arms
    18:36 Conclusion

Komentáře • 105

  • @TweedyPubs
    @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +2

    A few old photos / pictures from the London Picture Archive:
    Two photos from 1982, where you can see the Flying Horse (or Tottenham as it was then) and the nearby McDonalds (which apparently has been there over 40 years now!) on the site previously occupied by the Boar and Castle:
    www.londonpicturearchive.org.uk/view-item?i=106118
    www.londonpicturearchive.org.uk/view-item?i=106120
    Also a watercolour of the Noah's Ark (prior to the current building seen in the video) by Frederick Napoleon Shepherd:
    www.londonpicturearchive.org.uk/view-item?i=307859
    ....and a photo from 1903 of Oxford Street wherein the Noah's Ark can be seen. Although it's not instantly recognisable from the current (apparently 1870s) building:
    www.londonpicturearchive.org.uk/view-item?i=106011
    According to a newspaper advert from 1876, the Noah's Ark was put up for sale at that time, and the owner was a Mr Maiden, you can see his name on the front of the earlier building depicted in F.N. Shepherd's watercolour. Shepherd lived 1819-1878 which also helps narrow down the dates a bit. The sense I get from that newspaper advert is that it was still the earlier building at that time, pushing the date of the current building to some time post 1876.

  • @wayinfront1
    @wayinfront1 Před 3 měsíci +16

    Tweedy, I must say that the more I see your extensive reviews of pubs, the more I appreciate them. They're full of painstakingly and lovingly researched detail. Like a good quality ale, your vids become addictive. The more one imbibes, the more one wants to imbibe. You've already covered a huge amount of pubs in an extensive variety of locations. Very glad to be with you on this magical mystery tour, and long may it continue. Cheers!

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Thank you for the kind words, especially as I recall from some of your earlier feedback my presentation style wasn't exactly your cup of tea!
      It surprises me that there aren't more channels on CZcams focusing on historic pubs, and I sometimes feel a bit sorry for the audience out there that they have to put up with me for such a large part of this topic... There does seem to be a lot of interest in this subject, and hopefully over time other people will be inspired to start their own channels on this theme. I think that's one of the great strengths of CZcams, that there are usually so many different people covering any given subject, so if any one individual rubs you up the wrong way there are other options!

    • @wayinfront1
      @wayinfront1 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@TweedyPubs Er.....yeeess....I thought ''he won't remember from all that time ago, will he?'' But he has! Yup, initially I thought you were a bit too like Lord Cameron for my taste. But now I say: perish the thought! I have been thoroughly marinaded in Tweedy vids and my taste has changed. I now think you are a thoroughly decent and straightforward chap, more than a little different from the (un)noble Lord. And I can't even see the facial resemblance anymore.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@wayinfront1 I completely understand! My other main area of interest is walking/camping and there's a huge number of those kind of videos I have started watching, then about two minutes in thought I just can't get on with the presenter. It's completely normal!
      My upbringing was very down to earth - state schools in the East Midlands (it's quite a grim part of the country) and my parents ran a village pub for the first few years of my childhood. I doubt David Cameron and I have much in common! ...but I do understand the comparison - it's probably at least partly down to the tweed? I just happened to fall in love with that cloth about 15 years ago, it's not something I grew up with, and I doubt any of the class of people it's traditionally associated with would want anything to do with me!

    • @wayinfront1
      @wayinfront1 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TweedyPubs I do like tweed too, Tweedy. Have a marvellous tweed overcoat, which unfortunately has a little bit of black oil on one shoulder, can't remember how i managed to get that on it 20 years ago. It's languished in the outdoor jackets/coats cupboard ever since. Must get round to cleaning that blemish one day. Also have one Harris Tweed jacket. Worn with cords, it makes me feel like a school teacher. Anyhow, back to your goodself: you seem nicely educated and middle class. Do I remember you ever pronouncing 'pounds' as 'peounds'? I hope not. That was the classic East Kent working class pronunciation of Edward Heath that used to be mercilessly ribbed by Private Eye. Heath pronounced his yacht Morning Cloud as ''Morning Cleoud.'' Probably before your time. Anyhow you ain't not got a trace of Midlands accent.

    • @MegaMurmer
      @MegaMurmer Před 3 měsíci

      Keep doing what you do tweedy. Love your videos.

  • @FrugalMrB
    @FrugalMrB Před 3 měsíci +6

    Possibly my favourite video of yours yet! Excellent research, and great to see/hear the history of all the pubs. I'm currently posting pictures onto a local Facebook page of pubs that have closed in the Lancashire town that I grew up in, along with photos of what the building are like today - they are certainly generating a lot of interest and reminiscences - pub history is a great conversation starter! Look forward to the next one, thanks, Andrew.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Thanks Andrew! This was a bit of a departure from the usual format and I was slightly apprehensive about how it would be received, so it was particularly nice to read your kind words!
      Yes, closed pubs definitely make for an interesting - if perhaps slightly bittersweet - subject. In this instance I had hardly known any of the pubs discussed, as most had closed decades before I was even born! The only one I had been at least vaguely aware of was the Hog in the Pound, but that had only ever been a modern looking pub building in my lifetime, so it was hard to mourn its passing.
      I am reminded of a time I went to the Great British Beer Festival, and there was a stall selling old pub paraphernalia. This was well over a decade ago, and I was much younger than the chap manning the stall. I spotted a "Hancocks HB" hand pump badge, and showed some interest in it to the guy manning the stall. He looked rather condescending, and said "Oh I suppose your surname is Hancock?".
      I then explained to him that no, the reason I was interested in it was because it was the only beer served at my favourite pub - the Cherry Tree in Tintern - straight from the barrel - and that pub had recently closed for good.
      In an instant his facial expression changed from one of sneering condescension to one of genuine sympathy and remorse! It was as though he was acknowledging a bereavement. I correspondingly warmed to him and after that frosty start we parted on good terms.

  • @elvis197797
    @elvis197797 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Tweedy another gem. I loved the history behind the Oxford st boozers. The flying horse I remembered as the Tottenham about 20 years back and the hog in the pound was a fav of mine. Brilliant as always, keep them coming and thanks for all your hard work mate 👍😎😎

  • @thfccfht
    @thfccfht Před 3 měsíci +1

    very interesting, and your summing up made a lot of sense....I used to go in the Tottenham mainly to admire the interior and the fact that I support Spurs even though there is no connection to the football, was an avid collector of music at the time.... had feet blisters due to so much walking in that area back in the day buying records and CDs....anyway its all about Pubs and Beer...keep up the great work..

  • @JEFFERYSJOHNSON
    @JEFFERYSJOHNSON Před 3 měsíci +2

    Been to zero of these pubs and yet this was a very good watch. Really appreciate the work you did on this one. You even indexed all the pubs so I could find them in the video! :-)

  • @DungeonKeeperLondonDungeonHire

    Bradleys Bar a couple of doors down Hanway Street is a cosy pub and a beginning of a great adventure for me in the early 80's...

  • @alanoneill3065
    @alanoneill3065 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very interesting...great research , well produced and presented.
    Subscribed

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Před 3 měsíci +6

    Hello Tweedy. Kudos to you for your pub archeology. Your research is exemplary. So interesting to hear what befell of so many pubs. I worked in New Oxford Street in the early 80’s. For the life of me I can’t recall if we ever drank in what is now the Flying Horse. It does though look like a nice pub. 👏👏👍😀🍺

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thanks Andrew! I'm not sure I really intended this video to turn into an exploration of 26 closed pubs - I initially just wanted to find a way to include the Flying Horse in a video because it had fallen between the cracks of several other videos... I think it was my first visit as well, I had always assumed such a busy spot next to Tottenham Court Road tube station would mean it'd be a bland generic chain pub, but I was very pleasantly surprised.

    • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
      @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@TweedyPubsI so agree. The corner of Tottenham Court Road and Oxford Street was and continues to be, always very busy. Not a destination, more of a place to get away from. However perhaps you have discovered a hidden gem. Keep up the good work John. 👍🍺

  • @DrDSCT
    @DrDSCT Před 3 měsíci +3

    Really enjoyed that video. Very interesting indeed. Great to see your number subscribers going up too!

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you! Really glad you enjoyed the video - a bit different from the usual format!

  • @stuartlong6217
    @stuartlong6217 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Great video!! Thanks! I remember the Hog in the Pound well, and was quite surprised when that went. Although not your cup of tea, I'm glad for the benefit of other subscribers to see how many of the side street pubs serve Dark Star Hophead.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Stuart! Perhaps as you say Hophead isn't exactly my sort of thing but I have a warm feeling nonetheless towards the Dark Star brewery - I love Sussex and they do have a couple of other beers which aren't quite as citrusy!

  • @richardburchell7312
    @richardburchell7312 Před 3 měsíci

    So enjoyable to watch with fantastic history we'll done

  • @w.g.hunter1300
    @w.g.hunter1300 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Some great pub names in this one!

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      I agree! I think the "Man Loaded with Mischief" is my personal favourite from this batch, and I believe this was at one time replicated in both Cambridge and Norwich. Alas the Cambridge pub is no more, I believe, but I think the one in Norwich still lingers on, simply as "The Mischief".

  • @alanoneill3065
    @alanoneill3065 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow...The Flying Horse looks beautiful!...Long may it continue

  • @WC21UKProductionsLtd
    @WC21UKProductionsLtd Před 3 měsíci +3

    What a fantastic piece of work. Or perhaps that should be, work of art.
    It seems very few of the former pub buildings survive. I’m not surprised by that, but it is depressing. There is some consolation in those instances where the pub was moved back into a side street. I guess.
    I think you are spot on in terms in your analysis. So many Roman roads became great coaching routes and you can see how the expansion of London and its rail network put paid to that. And then came the “great” post-war rebuild.
    I hope this one does well for you - so much research went into it - and I loved it.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thank you for those extremely kind words! I suspect this video might not destined for huge success, but I found the end result personally quite satisfying in that it addressed a question I have seen implicitly raised, but not answered, anywhere else.
      I'm glad you agree on the Roman road / coaching inn part as I felt that was on slightly shaky ground - I was talking about decline in pubs from the 1890s onwards and obviously the transition from coaching to rail transport was already old news by then! ...but I got the sense that was a very slow process. Obviously pubs are still pubs even if there aren't coaches regularly stopping outside!

    • @WC21UKProductionsLtd
      @WC21UKProductionsLtd Před 3 měsíci

      @@TweedyPubs yes, and I think the massive growth of London from the 1800s to the present day - with once major routes becoming lost in far more complex networks of roads. Not sure when the first circular roads/bypasses date back to, but I suspect the inter-war decades.
      If you look at an early 1800s map of London, the main routes are very obvious. By the 1950s, it’s much more complicated.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@WC21UKProductionsLtd Yes I had similar thoughts looking at the old maps, even in the latter stages of when Oxford Street might still have been on the coaching route. I got a sense it wasn't exactly a straight line out of the City of London - but perhaps intentionally so? I suspect some of the bumps and turns made it easier to install the turnpikes?

    • @WC21UKProductionsLtd
      @WC21UKProductionsLtd Před 3 měsíci

      @@TweedyPubs a bit of a surprise, but the north and south circular roads were started in 1900 and completed in 1930. - I just looked it up and that’s a bit earlier than I thought. Bypasses fundamentally change the old roads don’t they. Where once Oxford Street was a route from a to b, that ceased to be the primary function and retail took over - squeezing out those old pubs that had originally served the through traffic. As it gained its status for retail supremacy, land became more valuable if developed for that purpose, I guess. The ads you presented from the 50s really illustrated that shift. Property developers always ruin nice things, don’t they?!

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@WC21UKProductionsLtd As someone who makes pub history videos those 1950s newspaper ads were obviously quite bittersweet! On the one hand, from a would-be-social-historian point of view, it seemed like I had struck gold: a very clear bit of documentation of the intent to turn those former pubs over to retail use... but obviously my more sentimental pub loving side felt saddened by the fatalism with which their lack of viability as pubs seemed to be presented as such a done deal.
      I wonder if anyone has had any particularly memorable experiences in that Vodafone store on the corner of Oxford Street and Wardour Street; to compare with the time when it was the Queen's Arms, and that prize cow ran amok and smashed those plate glass doors...?
      I somehow suspect nobody will be making videos 140 years from now recounting the zany exploits of that Vodafone store!

  • @djuth1984
    @djuth1984 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Another great video of course. And it never really occurred to me the lack of pubs on Oxford Street, but it’s so true. I guess it’s all too easy to dive into Soho where pubs are plentiful that you may not notice the lack on the Main Street.
    Amusingly, whenever you’ve talked about your dislike of beer that tastes of grapefruit I’ve nodded along with you. Until I stumbled across your April Fools video where you drink a can of Neck Oil which is what you refer to as Grapefruit, and I find myself drinking that quite often!!
    You’ll be pleased to know though that your videos have made me get back to ordering ale in pubs again!

  • @spud0124
    @spud0124 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The meaning of A1:
    This rather informal expression has been around for over 200 years. When you say that something is ‘A1/A one’, you mean that it is excellent or first rate. The expression can be used with people as well.
    Lloyd’s, a British company that insured ships, coined the term. Before any ship was insured, the company inspected it and then rated it. The letters A, E, I, O and U were used to indicate the condition of the hull of the ship, and the numbers 1, 2, 3, etc. were used to indicate the state of the equipment (cables, anchor, etc.) on board. If the ship was rated A1, it meant that both the hull and the equipment were in excellent condition.

  • @johnhiscott-walsh5198
    @johnhiscott-walsh5198 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Excellent detective work John.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thanks John! I'm not sure I really intended to make this video at the outset but once I started digging I couldn't stop!

  • @JohnAleman1
    @JohnAleman1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Another interesting vlog the time you take to research all this is appreciated keep enjoying the ales 🍻

  • @richardhigel5612
    @richardhigel5612 Před 3 měsíci

    Liked the ‘wild bird sound effects’ toward the end.

  • @booglewho86
    @booglewho86 Před 3 měsíci

    Another fantastic and most informative video, very well presented and researched as always.
    Just a thought on those panels that depict the seasons, you would only kill the pheasants for the table in winter, so maybe the summer panel is the one that is missing.....

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you for the kind words!
      That's a good point about the panels in the Flying Horse. I had read the listing on CAMRA's Pub Heritage site for the interpretation of which panel corresponded to which season, and hadn't really given it much thought. Now you mention it, a quick Google suggests the season for pheasant is October to January, and it was similar in the Victorian era - perhaps nudged even further into winter.

  • @pfield39
    @pfield39 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks so much for your boozy guides. I regularly train it into London for drinks with old pals, usually in the Strand/Bloomsbury area of "Outstanding Hostelry Interest", thanks to your videos I think I might venture a bit further afield. Keep up the good work.

  • @damianwalls1262
    @damianwalls1262 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember drinking in it in the '90s when it was the Tottenham. It wasn't a particularly nice pub but it was the only one there apart from a couple in the backstreets

  • @ErAvUlGaRiS-gv9wi
    @ErAvUlGaRiS-gv9wi Před 3 měsíci +2

    Another great video . Keep.up the good work

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you! It was a bit of a different style, with all that focus on now long since closed pubs, but I'm glad you liked it nonetheless!

  • @davidberlanny3308
    @davidberlanny3308 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Hi John, excellent research, really well put together very much enjoyed watching ..... no terrible entertainment here ....
    It was interesting to see how many other pubs were identified on those maps, just off the street too. It was good to see that some had been rebuilt nearby to their original position.
    What were you drinking in the last pub, it looked great?
    Nice touch with the chapter markers👍👍
    All the best!!

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +4

      Thanks David! This was a bit different from my usual pub videos - perhaps slightly more like a documentary rather than the usual pub crawl of one area of London. Maybe this style is just a one off - I'll see how it goes.
      Years ago I used to be quite a purist when it came to pub history, and I was of the opinion that if a pub was rebuilt, it wasn't the same pub any more... but I seem to have mellowed on that stance a bit, and I actually find something nice about the continuity of a pub name, even in some of the cases seen here where the premises moved a few doors away, and none of the interior was preserved/relocated. Probably there's a debate to be had there akin the philosopher's axe / Ship of Theseus!
      The pint in the last pub was Timothy Taylor's Landlord - it was in good shape. Although I must confess being ever so slightly disappointed when I arrived at the pub as the photos online suggested they served Harveys Sussex Best. It transpires they replaced that with London Pride some time ago as a regular beer. I don't mind London Pride but not a patch on Harveys!
      The chapter markers were a bit crazy - given there were a total of 29 pubs discussed here! Albeit, of course, 26 of them no longer exist... There's a 10 second minimum length for a chapter on CZcams so in a couple of places the timings had to be a bit off.

    • @davidberlanny3308
      @davidberlanny3308 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@TweedyPubs Its an interesting question, how much of the original HMS Victory is still left? what about Flying Scotsman does it still have its original frames? Everything changes over time. For me its important that there is a link back to its former self, as if the pub had a soul.
      I always sigh when I pass my old local near to my parents it was an old coaching Inn probably sited for changing horses before climbing Portsdown Hill on the old A3, its now an Indian Restaurant, it still preserves the exterior, actually I think it smells better these days!! In my day there was a separate public and lounge bar and in between there was a kind of off licence where you could get a jug of beer all long gone now like too many other pubs.
      My favourite when back home is Summer Lightning from the Hopback brewery. Always used to enjoy London Pride when travelling through but I cant look at Fullers without remembering the loss of Gales Brewery, maybe you got to try HSB or BBB?
      Well worth experimenting with the style of these videos, this one was ideal with so many long gone pubs ...... I only need to stamp this comment with "Fluted Pilasters"
      EDIT: Now here is one for Barry "shocking inaccuracy", fluted pilasters indeed, do you think I need google to work out the difference between a corbel and a pilaster .......

  • @lamiaitaly2549
    @lamiaitaly2549 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Yes, best Tweedy video so far. Thank you

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you! I was a bit unsure about the slight change of format in this video so this is great to hear!

  • @markjohnathanappleton8642
    @markjohnathanappleton8642 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Another excellent video, keep up the great work

  • @algonzales1809
    @algonzales1809 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Tweedy faithfully on the case with a very nice report from an area I've always avoided as I was of the impression it was rather bereft of proper boozers. I have an aversion towards locales that have been pedestrianized as they are littered with ghastly stores such as The Gap and Starbucks. The Flying Horse and The Carpenters Arms will merit a visit indeed on my next trip over, possibly in October, along with any pub that has Harvey's Sussex Best on offer. That is quite a sharp jacket and vest there Tweedy.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Al! Yes I was very pleasantly surprised by the Flying Horse, given the location, and if you ever find yourself thirsty around Marble Arch then I think the Carpenters Arms is a great backstreet pub.

  • @neilmadden1971
    @neilmadden1971 Před 3 měsíci

    A1 refers to A1 at Lloyds, I believe. There used to be a pub on the Dock Road in Liverpool called the A1 at Lloyds. I'm sure some old sea dog will correct me, but I think it refers to a ship being fully insured at Lloyd's and therefore being totally seaworthy. I might be wrong.

  • @thomashiggins4923
    @thomashiggins4923 Před 3 měsíci

    Very impressive level of research in all your videos, TP, and I enjoy your commentary enormously. Must be a lot of work, especially on this Oxford street one, where the pubs are all gone, bar one and a half. Many thanks. Tom (from France)

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Tom! Yes the research for this one did take a bit longer than usual for my videos but I found it really interesting, and once I started digging into these closed pubs it was hard to stop!

  • @andrewhead6267
    @andrewhead6267 Před 3 měsíci

    Planning rules after WW2, which introduced heavier concepts of zonal business use, probably contributed to post war closures. So Oxford Street would have had planning preferences as a primary retail frontage. Many a town centre has a history of pubs in the 50s, 60s and 70s being replaced on High Streets by shops.

  • @liberty_and_justice67
    @liberty_and_justice67 Před 3 měsíci

    Agree with the other comments. Really perfecting your craft! Enjoy the old photos and newspapers in particular. Congrats on 3.4K subs🎉

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks L&J! I wish I could have included more old photos, but they're not easy to find, and quite a lot of the old photos I do find are on those stock photos websites which often charge more to use a single photo than I would make from the entire video!

  • @robcoles8493
    @robcoles8493 Před 3 měsíci

    A fantastic video Tweedy. The research you put in is amazing and you tell the stories n such an engaging way.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Rob!. This one did take a bit longer than usual to research (and edit!) but I found the end result very satisfying.

  • @chrish5319
    @chrish5319 Před 3 měsíci

    Yet another erudite and well-presented video whose easy presenting style belies the enormous amount of research. I am a recent pubs follower having come here from outdoors, is this your longest 'pubcrawl'? Thank you again.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks Chris! Yes quite a lot of research went into this one but it was interesting and satisfying to have answered a question I haven't really seen address anywhere else.
      Yes definitely the most pubs I have ever featured in one video! 29 pubs in total! Although of course only 4 of them actually visited.

  • @liamkatt6434
    @liamkatt6434 Před 3 měsíci

    Pretty sure that the name A1 refers to the Lloyds shipping classification for insurance purposes 'A1' meaning the very highest and that the vessel was 100% inside and outside. There was a dockside pub of that name in Liverpool for many years and more recently a modern bar. Another brilliant video, thank you!

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Liam, that makes a lot of sense and very interesting to hear the same name was at one time used in Liverpool!

  • @paulturner487
    @paulturner487 Před 3 měsíci

    Very interesting and painstakingly researched I would imagine! Thanks for your enthusiasm and dedication of a subject loved by many like minded souls 👍
    I note as your channel gets more popular CZcams are throwing adverts all over it. Never mind, the price we have to pay to continue enjoying your content!
    As always, keep up the good work 👍 Paul

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks Paul! Sorry if the ads are getting in the way a bit though. I signed up to CZcams Premium a while back because I watch a lot of videos here (I don't watch conventional TV any more) and so I sometimes forget that it might be a bit more of an interrupted viewing experience for most other people!

    • @paulturner487
      @paulturner487 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TweedyPubs I can live with it mate! Your channel is the business 👌

  • @thekentishpilgrim
    @thekentishpilgrim Před 3 měsíci

    Great research Tweedy. I know pubs are in crisis mode these days and are closing left right and center but I can't understand how this country used to sustain the amount of pubs it once had and I don't mean just Oxford ST. A lot more people used to drink a lot more often I guess.

  • @barryconway
    @barryconway Před 3 měsíci +3

    Very competent. Thoroughly researched. Rather professional, in fact. Carry on.
    Should we know more about “the members of The Harmonic Soaking Society” (@ 12:11)? Perhaps not.
    Fluted Pilasters, you say? I shall add that to my Tweedy Bingo card.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Professional?! Steady on Barry!
      It is fascinating, the little glimpses into Victorian life we get from these newspaper clippings - I have no idea who the "Harmonic Soaking Society" are, or what it was they were soaking, nor why they felt the urge to soak it in a harmonic fashion.
      Actually when I was editing the video I looked again at the pilasters and I'm not sure they are fluted! The corbels are, but the rest of the pilasters may just have shallow rectangular recesses. Given this shocking inaccuracy I entirely understand if you feel compelled to unsubscribe!

    • @salan3
      @salan3 Před 3 měsíci

      The mind boggles as to what that means! lol

    • @barryconway
      @barryconway Před 3 měsíci

      @@TweedyPubs well, professional, perhaps when compared to your country cousin who drinks wine in a hedge? (o;

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@barryconway He is, in my humble opinion, unsurpassed in his chosen endeavour (of drinking wine in hedges)!

  • @lawrencelewis2592
    @lawrencelewis2592 Před 3 měsíci +1

    if only someone would say that there are too damned many of those American candy shops. If I was in the Carpenter's Arms I would have a hard time deciding between the Landlord and the Hophead. I would have to have both.

  • @ysgolgerlan
    @ysgolgerlan Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for another great pub video, Oxford Street seems very noisy. 👍

  • @Eric-jo8uh
    @Eric-jo8uh Před měsícem +1

    Maybe the water wasn’t safe to drink and so consumed beer instead(?).

  • @peterjaniceforan3080
    @peterjaniceforan3080 Před 3 měsíci +2

    🍻cheers

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      🍺 Cheers Peter & Janice!🍻

    • @growlerthe2nd712
      @growlerthe2nd712 Před 3 měsíci +1

      After watching this I feel a bit parched 🍺👍

  • @argopunk
    @argopunk Před 3 měsíci +1

    I recall visiting The Flying Horse when it was The Tottenham. Lovely interior except for the ugly glass cupola, that must have been done after it became The Flying Horse. I seem to recall it was a dingy looking plain glass dome before.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes that cupola / skylight did seem a bit out of place with the rest of the interior.

    • @argopunk
      @argopunk Před 3 měsíci

      @@TweedyPubs Thanks for doing what you do. I get to London every 8 years or so from Toronto and it always turns into a pub crawl.

  • @eduardo7309
    @eduardo7309 Před 3 měsíci +1

    another interesting episode. super research and good historical background. some of those photos, hog in the pound, is where i want to be. but it seems like one should steer clear of Oxford street. big business selling total junk...NBA store!!!! i want to run away screaming...

  • @DovidM
    @DovidM Před 3 měsíci +2

    Meux in French would be pronounced with a vowel sound like rue in English.

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for the clarification!

  • @henrikwormslevolesen8103
    @henrikwormslevolesen8103 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Hi Tweedy. We are a couple of guys going to London in a few weeks to watch football. We will be staying at St Katherine's Docks. Are there any pubs you would recommend in the area.....And thanks for some good videos. Henrik Olesen ...Denmark :-)

    • @TweedyPubs
      @TweedyPubs  Před 3 měsíci +6

      Hi Henrik - if you're looking for pubs to watch football in I'm probably not the best person to ask! ...but if you're just looking for nice historic pubs near St. Katherine's Docks I would suggest either taking a walk along the north bank of the Thames towards Wapping: there's the Town of Ramsgate, the Captain Kidd, the Prospect of Whitby and then eventually the Grapes in Limehouse.
      There's also some nice old pubs along the south bank of the Thames heading east from there towards Rotherhithe: the Anchor Tap, the Angel and the Mayflower.
      The (here confusingly named) Overground line connects Rotherhithe and Wapping stations using a tunnel under the Thames which is very useful in linking up these two groups of pubs.
      Or of course alternatively you could just head towards Bank station and enjoy some City of London pubs: the Lamb in Leadenhall market etc. Lots of options!

    • @henrikwormslevolesen8103
      @henrikwormslevolesen8103 Před 3 měsíci

      Hi again :-) Thanks for the useful info. We look forward to visiting those pubs :-) I found them on google map. Henrik :-)@@TweedyPubs

  • @returnoftheponderer
    @returnoftheponderer Před 3 měsíci

    id imagine £17 a pint ill pass and stick to outer london or spoons

  • @bl00dhoney
    @bl00dhoney Před 2 měsíci +1

    City of Quebec is the oldest gay pub in London. Sad you failed to recognise the historic and social importance!!

  • @paulsennitt2079
    @paulsennitt2079 Před 3 měsíci

    This is bullshit there has only ever been one pub in oxford street since 1960