Cinematic Lighting With The GVM 800D
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GVM 800D-RGB LED Studio Video Light
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A quick look at the GVM 800D, a couple of cinematic lighting setups, and how we shot them using the light. Smaller, affordable, LED panels like these can be very useful for many applications, including cinematic lighting. Although the light output isn't super powerful, there's no reason you can't use these lights for cinematic images, and there's also the possibility to use them for photography also. Affordable units like this can also be very beneficial if you're just starting to learn lighting - especially since you have RGB, bi-colour and effects in one package.
Camera:
Blackmagic Micro Cinema Camera
Lenses:
Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 ART
Panasonic Lumix G 14mm f/2.5
Genus Eclipse Variable ND Filter
Hoya UV/IR Cut
#filmmaking #lighting #rgb - Krátké a kreslené filmy
This dude will be the only person to win an Academy Award for sitting silently in a chair AND for the cinematography! It's incredible! LOL I cannot stop watching your videos! haha
Hahahaha my finest and only acting ability 😂 thanks David, happy you're enjoying my videos! :)
100% agree with that statement.
Brilliant as always. Really inspiring to see what you’re able to achieve with such minimal setups.
Thanks Jordan :) absolutely, I think it's good to show what can be achieved with more affordable, minimal setups, as it shows you don't always need to spend major money to get these looks! Intending to touch on some more higher end options soon also, and, on the flip side, why it's also good to invest in pricier gear - always good to have balance!
Rob Ellis Looking forward!
What I keep taking away from your videos is that the bouncing of light is key when it comes to getting that "cinematic look." Thank you for this. I'm the DP on my final senior project in film school and will be using a lot of your techniques. Thank you! Cheers.
I wouldn't necessarily say that bouncing is key for a cinematic look - but it's a very functional way to get soft light! You can't always control bounce in the same way as you can shooting through diffusion or using modifiers. Thank you man, great to know you're using some of these techniques :D
I've owned these lights for a year and never knew you could control them with an App. I can already tell that your channel is going to open my mind to a lot of things. Thank you!
Rob, your channel has single handedly helped me go back to the basics, and work with lighting first and foremost. It's really exciting to see you show us how to light scenes in such an easy and digestible way. Not only that, but your work with the BMMCC has really got me thinking about making the jump from GH5.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks Thomas! Great to know my videos are helping and it's good to know they're easily digestible also! :)
Showing how the scene is actually constructed was very helpful and informative
I love all of your videos. Thanks for making such great content all the time!
Your are the best inspiration! Thanks Rob!
I love your videos, Rob. You inspire me. You're probably my favourite filmmaker/youtuber. You really worship the artform!
Wow thank you Tomas, that's bloody awesome and I really appreciate it :)
This is absolutely inspiring!!! Thanks for making this video. I can't wait to start using my GMV LED lights.
Superb video as always Rob - straight to the point but at a pace that is easy to absorb - perfect.
Thanks mate! And great to know I'm getting that balance right, so much appreciated! :) last thing I want is to waffle on about nothing for 5 minutes haha
I've just stumbled across your channel, and wow! Instant sub! The information is so practical and useful, and it's really helpful for people with limited budgets. Keep up the fantastic work!
I'm addicted to your videos, you are the one who best teaches film tips.
but with this video, I don't know whether to buy GMM or Nanlite 60b
Rob Ellis is my cinematography lord and savior.
Haha too kind!!
God, I love the background music. It compliments your narration perfectly. Thanks for the knowledge, and have a good day!
Thanks Jan!! Absolutely, you have a good day too :D
I can't stop watching your videos, Please don't stop doing it, your lighting videos are the best.
Thank you so much Roberto, no plan on stopping just yet! :)
awesome video man, great work.
Good quality video man, inspiring
so glad to stumble on you channel. Subbed!
Pro tip: if you take out the main shaft of most C-stands, that hole at the base is (usually) a junior pin. Meaning you can place most lights on the base. Voila, you have a low light stand.
Your videos are very well explained, mate. I love that you get to the point and show the practicality of using these lights whereas most other people's reviews of lighting is strictly theoretical and talking about the features. You on the other hand DEMONSTRATE, and demonstrate fully. I appreciate you, man.
Thanks so much man! That's the aim, trying to show how you can use gear practically to get results - which is something that I found to be a little scarce on here. Technical specifications are important, but there's a lot of similar videos of that sort of thing and I know how frustrating it is when you just want to see lights and other things used practically, not just another run down on the specs. Plus doing a lot with a little is something I find super interesting and gratifying, so I'm kind of scratching that itch putting these videos together too haha. Thanks so much for the kind words, your appreciation is very much appreciated! :)
I believe these are what Bo Burnham used for fill light in “Inside”. You can spot the GVM logo in some shots
Thank you I needed this video
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
Happy to help! :)
I just started a project where we thougth about using led lights, thats great timing. Love your stuff man, keep it up!
Haha that is great timing! Glad I could help! :)
Great little tutorial as usual! Man, I hope you're paying this brooding subject guy 'cause he sure is patient!
Thank you! Hahaha he was being particularly brooding in that second setup aswell!
I couldn't tell you how much you have helped me. Thanks so much.
Glad I could help Adam! Thank you :)
Great video as always!
Thanks Giorgio!! :)
I really like your works mate!
Thanks mate! Much appreciated :)
Great video of demonstration using affordable techniques to get the cinematic lighting. Great job, I want these
Great video!
I can already see your channel growing big. Keep up with the useful content!
Thanks Ben! :)
i ordered these gems today
cant wait to put em in action!
this channel is so underrated... needs more subs... love your vids
Thank you so much! :)
You really helped me with my decision on purchasing these. Thanks man!
Absolutely! Thanks for watching! :)
Excellent video, thank you. I'm trying to learn as much as I can about lighting, and this is a perfect example of the kind of video I've been looking for.
Thank you! Glad it's helping! :)
Dude, you are seriously talented. The way you carefully constructed each scene was just breathtaking. Every scene was its own painting. I feel inspired just watching this video and all you did was review a product.
Thanks so much Matt and thank you for your kind words on my videos recently! I really appreciate it :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer No, thank you. I never dismissed lighting as unimportant, but I never really appreciated just how much you can literally paint a scene. You're videos have made me completely rethink how I look at a scene.
thanks for the video,, great job !!!
Thank you for sharing
I have the 560AS kit for my small studio. This set is next on the wish list! The wifi and app makes this soon-to-be ex-IT guy smile!!
Definitely an extremely handy thing to have!
You are brilliant, just wanted to let you know
Im in love with this led light i will get it for my background light
Do it! :)
Great videos, Rob
Thank you!! :)
Always love your lighting setups and use of bounce, practicals and effects! This pair will go nicely with my godox lc500r. Might do an outdoor experiment with the candle/ fire in a cove setup 🧐
Thanks Erik!! Definitely a good light to compliment the LC500R, similar functions but different form factors! Do it! :D
you are genius !!!!
Amazing bro, amazing, I'm Brazilian and I started to make videos now, and it's so hard to get good braizilians channels to learn something like that, thank u so much to share it with us!
Great to know my channel has been helpful, thanks Max!! :)
Very useful video to reference! Will be using this as reference to see if my DOP wants to rent some of these 800Ds
Thanks Aran, glad it's useful!! :)
Thank you
Awesome video. I love my gvm stuff
Thanks Alex, they make some handy little lights for sure!
Man, the music was moody, the setup was next level! I'm rookie here and I should visit this video more and others as well! Might grab some of your LUT's if you have Sony LUT's.
Love these videos. You should do a quick follow up on how you grade the footage after these lighting setups. Beautiful images!
Noted! :) thank you so much! :D
I just bought a kit of 3 GVM 50RS and I can't wait to test them for my quarantine experiments :)
Awesome, hope it goes well! :) Cheers Bryan!
You're a genius!
you have a great eye! keep up the good work.
Thank you! :)
Super 👍👍👍, thanks
Thank you! :)
Thank you!
Absolutely! :) Thanks for watching!
You also need to know how to set up the shot, scene and camera settings to get these types of shops. Great job!
This is awesome - all others take note - this is how you make a CZcams video review / tutorial!
Thank you mate! :)
Simply genius! You make lighting seem so simply, for me its very very complicated. It would be great if you can show the recording settings of the camera.
Thank you, glad to know it's helping! :)
Idk why so many people always want to know the settings on the camera. That information wont help you. Every area/ lighting situation is different from one another. What he does in this video will not be the same for you wherever you are. Knowing the right settings is actually very simple, don't over think it. I think too many people do that.
All you have to do is expose for the main light source you are using, set the cameras settings to whatever looks right for what you are going for/adjust the light if necessary, then work on from there. Adding background and fill lights if needed. Just start with that main light tho and dial in your cameras settings to the desired look then add your other light(s) 1 by 1 and adjust.
Dont turn on all your lights and try to expose that way. Just start with your main light, expose and move to the next one. Your camera & light settings will be different for every set up you do. Hope this helps!
Astonishing Work! Have these in my Cart right now haha I hate you have to order the batteries separately but this video was my deciding factor!
hey man have you recieved your lights yet? if so whats your review?
i got this set couple weeks back, lookin forward to shooting some stuff with it, nice tips and sample shots, lush results.
It's a nice little panel! :) thank you for the kind words!
Hey bro did you order the set off amazon or the official website I want to order off the website but I’m abit skeptical lol
Awesome video man, thank you!! Just found your channel....subbed!!
Thank you! :) and thank you for the sub!!
Great use of the panels. I have trouble utilizing these panels myself. When do you prefer to adjust WB when setting these scenes? And what brightness do you prefer on the panel?
Amazing Brother .... Keep on doing ...
Thank you! :)
It would be awesome to see a video of yours about the diy chinaball lightning for cinematic lighting! Your videos are amazing, and I really appreciate the beauty of your cinematic results. In Brazil, where I live, all camera gears, and related, are truly expensive, so it's difficult to not go for super diy solutions. Although I know the quality limits that cheap and simple lighting as the chinaball have, I suppose you could make really beautiful shots with it!
Thank you so much! I'm actually currently putting together a video on some products sent to me by Pergear, one of which is the Laofas Lantern, a super affordable bowens mount china ball style soft box (so compatible with the cheaper godox bowens mount lights, etc). So hopefully that helps when I release the video! :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Amazing, sure will! Looking forward to see that :)
I've never seen someone as photogenic as yourself. I can't help to click on it to know what is it about...
All the frames look like they're from a scene, not only because of the photography but because of the (intentional or unintentional) acting.
Cheers!
Thanks Leonard!! I'm no actor, but due to this whole pandemic I've mainly just been filming myself for these lighting videos - I think my 'moody' face is pretty one-note haha, but I do think it works for these darker, cinematic looks. Really nice to hear your kind words though mate, never thought I'd be called photogenic!!
@@RobEllisCinematographer I agree with
Nice tutorial with some great ideas, for the first setup you’d be better served to reduce the led lights on the FG a little and allow the practical to ‘push’ into the FG. I understand a TV look was the outcome but practicals that are seen as a source are much brighter than any tv.
literal pro tips
:D thank you!
Great info. Would these work well to spread more green light over a green screen background? Or would the standard 4 piece T8 led warehouse lights be sufficient for that. I’d love to be able to use something like these that I could also dim. I guess you also can’t beat the color options with these as well. Cheers
I have the same set, & they are great. I sometimes wish they were a bit stronger, but for the price & functionality I cannot complain.
Definitely, it's crazy how affordable things like this are now, especially with the RGB mode!
Hey bro did you order them from Amazon or the official website I wanna order from the website but I’m abit skeptical about it
I just landed on your channel today, you are just brilliant, frugal yet brilliant, I would say than your grading course, put a complete frugal cinematic lighting tutorial for $100 I'm paying for it, but not more than $100 😊 Can't afford beyond that.
I love meditation videos
Mate, i'd love to know more about the red lighting you did. Wonderful stuff.
Thank you!! Not much else to say on that one that wasn't said in the video! :) the wallpaper was red already so that definitely helped toward the look, but a neutral coloured wall would just as easily light up red with an RGB panel pointed at it!
Me encanta tu canal. ⚡💗
Muchas gracias! :)
Saludos desde Chile! 🇨🇱💗
Great video. What were your camera settings for these shots?
Yay! I have and use these exact same lights! I do like how portable they are and ability to use both batteries and AC power. So thank you for showing cool new ways you can utilize them!
So I was wondering, these lights are pretty much the only lights I own not including some mini lights and some sheets of unbleached muslin as from your recommendation XD. What should be the next investment made when putting together a light kit? It’s really overwhelming the types of lights out there from panels, kinos, fresnel, spotlights. And not only that but also modifications like negative fills, c-stands, grids, domes, etc. It’s hard to tell the “hierarchy of needs” when it comes to lighting so I’m not buying something I’m only going to use once every blue moon before something I could use all the time. Anyways amazing video as always, and as always I feel guilty from getting these in-depth filming tips for free XD.
Yeah it's a nice little kit! Crazy to think how affordable it is now to get little panels like this out in the field. Absolutely! :)
So that's a fairly complicated question haha! But! I think the best way to look at it as you're learning and building your lighting kit up, is to make mistakes and learn why a certain thing didn't work like you wanted it to, then find out what you need to get to fix it. Very specific example: you want a hazy room, with a ray of light shooting through a window. You haze the room up, set a light up, and you don't get the light ray you wanted. So you look into it, find out a fresnel lens is great for that sort of light control, find out the light you need to attach a fresnel to, buy them, then you know how to get that effect when you want it and have the tools for it - and you've added a useful light + modifier to your kit. Obviously this goes hand in hand with stands, etc, learning from practise why you need that certain thing in future. That way you learn as you go and you can take it all in individually, rather than filling your brain with lots of information at once and buying a load of equipment you think you'll never use!
Thank you for the kind words! :)
Rob Ellis Thank you so much! That’s actually a great mentality to approach it from. I’ll be sure to take my current light kit as far as I can and troubleshoot what I’ll eventually need in the future from experience!
Definitely, making mistakes and learning why is probably the most practical way to learn about anything! But obviously you can also pre-empt stuff, if you see someone using a certain light and modifier for a certain effect, and you know you need that light and modifier for that effect before you've tried it, you're also prepared there also :)
"You can make great imagery out of you cell phone..."
Yeah, right haha!
Congratulations for your channel, I really enjoy it! Between this lighting kit and the Godox LC500R you previously reviewed, which one you'd say is brighter? And which one you would choose as first lighting gear? Thanks a lot! (:
Thank you!! :) I'm actually not quite sure which is brighter, I think the Godox is possibly the winner there, but you've also gotta bear in mind the light quality is different between both fixtures as the light is spread slightly differently! I would personally probably go for the GVM panels as a first light, as I think you'd learn a little more about controlling light that way :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer Thanks a lot (:
i have 3 Neewer 480s and picking up 3 of these.. i probably don't need 6 lights though so I'm thinking of selling one of these and one of the 480s and just go down to 4 lights. these are amazing demonstrations for hte use of just 2 GVM800Ds. do you think the third one be overkill in most scenarios?
Lol the video is so moody but he’s just talking about a light
;)
Storytellers will always tell stories... even if it’s a light review😂
What’s your process for finding perfect white balance for scenarios with different colors and temperatures in the shot?
Pingu Pingu!! 🐧
How would you say these compare to the Godox LC500R you reviewed a while back? In terms of quality of light, and brightness. A big plus of that Godox, for me, is the saturation control. Thanks :)
I would say although they perform similar lighting functions (rgb, effects, bi-colour) I would probably use them for different purposes, as the way the light output is distributed is a little different between tube and panel - they both have their uses so I wouldn't necessarily place one above the other. I haven't had a chance to test differences in brightness, but I avoided talking about the saturation in this video because to be honest it wasn't worth mentioning as a feature haha. The Godox wins fully on that point! Hopefully GVM improve that on future models :)
For a beginner filmmaker do u advice me to invest in this product for filming a short movie ?
Bro, i have been searching reviews for this ligths. And no one, hasn’t convence me till i found you. I want to thanks you, because you were the one who perfectly uses has i was looking for, this kind of video or film scenario, for video music. I was about to purchase first the godo vl150 for key ligth, but is 400$ and is only one ligth, and if i want to purchase the external battery is ike 230$ more. And for 360$ i get 3 of this gvm panel, i think for me has a beginner they would do a good job. Now, can you give me another advice of a cheap thing can i use plus this ligths?
If you're just starting out then the GVM panels will definitely do a good job yeah :) I'd reccomend looking into some heavy duty light stands, boom arms and diffusion next!
Great video, thanks! You get such a cinematic look, can you please show the source footage in some video, and then with a color grade, it will be very useful!
Thank you! Will keep this in mind for next time - although I try to keep lighting and colour grading seperate, so the focus is on what the lights are doing! :)
Rob, *what a great video!* So helpful, specially for low budget filmmakers like me. I can't buy these LED lights right now, because I just recently bought a *YN360 mkIII + YN600,* so I'll have to wait a bit. Have you ever used yn600 or yn360? *How does the yn600 output compares to this 800d?* And, one last question. *What would be the best way to difuse these LED Panels?* _5 in 1 reflector or a 50-60 inches umbrella?_ I would be so happy to get your insights on these questions that I have. I can't seem to find much content about LED panels being used as key lights, neither how to difuse them. *As always, great content, keep it up!*
Thanks so much Plínio! So I'm not actually 100% sure on the outputs between the lights - for some reason it seems to be really difficult to find the lux rating of the GVM and Yongnuo's online, so I'm afraid I couldn't say which ones are brighter! In terms of diffusing LED panels, I would try both umbrella and 5-in-1 reflector diffusion section - both are super cheap and you'll be able to see for yourself which you like better. I would say an umbrella is going to spill more light everywhere than the diffusion material from a 5-in-1, and the diffusion material would be a little easier to control. I'm pretty sure Yongnuo also do little softboxes for some of their panels, and dont forget you also have the option of clipping any sort of diffusion material you want to the barn doors :) hope that helped and thank you for the kind words!
@@RobEllisCinematographer Indeed It is hard (Impossible, maybe) to find the lux rating of these lights. However, thank you for the advice. I did test the yn600 with the 5 in 1 reflector yesterday and I did get some good results, I guees I'll stick with this combo. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions! ❤️
Hello, I have this kit but I want a more powerful light. Do you recommend me sell one of this panels and buy a sokani x60 v2? the sokani as my key and the other gvm as accent light
I just got a 3 pack for $260 and change. I bought it for doing CZcams videos, but I may have to start messing with photography again. You are brilliantly inspiring. Thank you.
BTW, the company I bought them from online had a Q&A where someone inquired about a soft box for this light even though it comes with a "diffuser". The person responding suggested buying a simple $6 1/4 diffusion sheet made by Roscoe and tape or clip it to the barn doors. That may eliminate some of the issues you experienced when closing the doors a bit.
Hello did you buy the 3 pack from the official website or amazon I wanna order from the website but am kinda skeptical of it
It literally looks like Roger Deakins shot it!
Aaaah I wouldn't go that far! ;) but thank you! :)
struggling to decide between the 800d and the neewer 660...
From what I've seen, the panel on the 800d will give a nicer flood light look without adding a softbox, whereas the neewer is going to give a bit of a hotspot and will require a softbox for a more even look. They're just for fill lights, hair lights and environment lights during interviews. I already have a key light setup so this would just be additional lighting.
Can the 800d produce usable light without adding a softbox or diffuser of some sort?
The 800D is definitely usable for additional lighting, accent, hair light, etc without any sort of diffuser :) the little diffusion panel that slips over the light is enough for that sort of thing! If you're going for fill light I would definitely go for something softer and larger as fill!
What boom / C-Stand system was used at the bus stop?
Sweet. A commercial.
Hi Rob, just one question about FPS. How do you choose FPS? Does 24 make difference from 30 FPS if I want to achieve cinematic look? I shoot on a canon 5d mark ii and don’t have a budget for a video camera. Still I strive to achieve a cinematic look. Thanks a lot!
Everybody who shoots cinematic shoots with 24fps just because it looks natural to the eyes well that’s what I’ve learned and 60fps if u want to make a slow motion scene
Dear Rob! May I ask you, as an Blackmagic expert, that what are your thoughts about the Blackmagic Production 4K camera? (not the pocket 4k) Is it better or worse, than the 2.5k?
I wouldn't call myself a Blackmagic expert! ;) But I would probably choose the 2.5k over the Production 4k - but if you need the resolution the Production is great. I personally like the look coming out of it a bit more than Blackmagic's newer cams!
@@RobEllisCinematographer thank you Rob, you are the best, you actually care about your community and help to the people watching you!
id like to know your camera setting according to that
Where can I get the diffusion layer at 4:09? Thank you! Can you link me, please? Awesome video
They're in the middle of any 5-in-1 reflector kit, multiple brands - a quick search for 5-in-1 reflector will give you a lot of options! :) thank you!
I was looking for a new video! And here it is. Im a bit sad, that you didnt show the candle light effect, Im looking forward for an affordable LED with realistic candle light effect. What do you say, is it better than the Godox or that is more realistic with its pirce?
:D I've got another video in the works with a different light, that I wanted to use the candle light effect for, and I didn't want to have a candle light effect shot in both videos haha, apologies! There are a fair amount LED's on the market with effects now, and many have the candle light effect. Obviously with the more affordable units, the effect is going to be less randomised and more obviously repeated, so I think it's just a case of weighing up your needs in regards to light output, costs, etc. Comparing how realistic effects are on different units actually sounds like quite an interesting video!
@@RobEllisCinematographer thanks for the answer Rob! :D If its not a trade secret, could you tell me which one is your favorit with the candle effect? :D Back in your Godox review, you told you like very much the the candle effect on that one, but is that mean its your favorit too? :D
Haha definitely not a trade secret, but I'm not actually sure which one I like more! I'll have a look this evening and get back to you :)
@@RobEllisCinematographer thank you so much Rob! You are very helpful!
If you could only use these or the godox rgb light tubes for the rest of your life, which ones are you going with?
They're both good for different situations, don't make me answer that! ;) haha
Any thoughts on the 50rs version?
Unfortunately I've not had the chance to try it out!