Lights for Livestreams: GVM 800D RGB LED Lights
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- In today’s episode, we have a look at the GVM 800D-RGB LED lights for livestreaming. These little, affordable lights are both bi-color white lights, but also full RGB. So you can use them to light your beautiful face or to create super saturated, stylized colored backgrounds. In this episode, I used the two light kit with desk-mount stands which is very useful for those streaming in small rooms where you don’t have a lot of space for light stands. Just attach the stands to the edge of your desk and you’re set to stream.
If you’d like to learn how to make great dialogue audio for your film and video projects, please have a look at my courses at school.learnlightandsound.com including processing dialogue audio in Adobe Audition and DaVinci Resolve/Fairlight, recording sound, how to use the Zoom F4, F6, F8, and F8n, and how to get the most from the Sound Devices MixPre series of recorders. Our latest course is Sound for Live Streaming with the ATEM Mini.
Gear used or mentioned in this episode. The links below are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, Sweetwater, Pictureline or other affiliate links. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases:
- GVM 800D-RGB two light kits - B&H, Amazon geni.us/r1bV
- Earthworks SR314 Microphone (my favorite for my voice for livestreams) - B&H, Sweetwater geni.us/FZq0e
- Aputure MC lights to create the color in the background - Aputure, B&H, Amazon geni.us/vWS6lB
- Lupo Smartpanel Dual Color used as a hair light - B&H, Amazon geni.us/1oCDzr
- Westcott 5in1 reflector to diffuse the key light - Amazon geni.us/teAb
- Canon C200 camera - B&H geni.us/9Zi4m4a
- Canon 24-105 f/4 L lens - B&H, Amazon geni.us/kZyU7e
- Canon C70 camera - B&H geni.us/ABYB
- Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8L lens - B&H, Amazon geni.us/qwsEs
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#GVM #800D-RGB #LiveStreaming
Index:
00:00 Start
00:13 Summary
00:23 For live-streaming
00:48 Color Quality
02:07 RGB
02:17 Power options
02:42 Effects
02:52 Build Quality
03:20 App control
04:47 Two position yoke
05:04 Removable barn doors
05:24 Light output
06:30 Pricing
06:40 Cons - App
07:30 Slave/Follow Mode
08:00 Multi-shadow issue
08:36 Lighting demo - key & fill
09:17 Conclusion n& Recommendation
10:24 Please buy my courses
Always appreciate the summary at the top of your videos.
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I just bought a pair of these 800D’s on Amazon for $199.00 Free shipping and arrived in only two days. Super happy with them. 🤙🏽
Glad they worked out. Happy streaming!
Love how in depth you go on the products! Thumbs up! Great job! 🙏🏽
Thanks Toby!
Curtis, I absolutely love your reviews. You come across as honest and practical. You are extremely knowledgeable but you NEVER talk down to us newbies. Thanks for this very thorough and useful video. I'm still not sure these lights are for me but, at least, now I have some information I can use in my final decision. By the way, I really like how you have that studio setup. I may have to steal some of your ideas. Thanks again.
Thanks John and happy streaming!
I have those for over a year now and it still rockin' solid! I didn't know that light would have a really good accurate SSI before. I bought it without knowing it. Thank you for the 3am notification 😁🙏
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I just bought these for my production set as well! Definitely the best investment I've made in terms of lighting at this point in my journey
Glad to hear they're working well for you!
Always appreciate your take on things! Keep making awesome content man!
Thanks!
Thanks Curtis!
Another BALANCED and informative review. 👍
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Thanks Dane.
Good observations thanks!
Thanks Michael.
To the point review! I like your channel a lot!
Thanks!
I'm using a pair right now for streaming. Great and at a good price too!
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You are great 👍
I am learning from your videos 💐
Thanks and happy recording!
Thanks for a solid review. These look pretty good for most streamers and they are a good deal, especially for ones with wifi control, even if flaky.
They're good on the features which count most.
Love you stuff Curtis! I must say that this is a professional No-No! First thing I do when setting lights with talking heads wearing glasses is BE SURE to position my lights high or out-of-the-way NOT showing up in their glasses. I drives me crazy seeing you do this!
Thanks Richard. I had hoped to reshoot to fix that issue but one of my close family members died earlier in the week so I didn't have time. I had promised GVM to produce the review so I went ahead and published and left a comment calling out this issue above. Thanks for keeping me honest.
You Rock Curtis! 💪
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You see those reflections in my glasses? Not good. In part this is from the computer monitor and in part because I did not position the lights higher above me. That could be a problem with the desk stands for tall people. Not a problem if you're not wearing glasses.
I found using a lot of diffusion helps too, as it makes the reflection less objectionable when you do look upwards (I use a massive shower curtain with two lights behind it, above and to the sides)
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Ever tried cross-polarization? Put polarizing sheets oriented one direction over your light source[s], and then a circular polarizer at 90 degrees to those on the lens.
One major caveat is that the polarizer has to come after any diffusion on the source light, so if you're using a softbox or gobo (as for the light above/behind the monitor) you need enough polarizing material to cover the entire thing. Getting rid of the specular reflection from that small panel above the camera's lens would be a snap with cross-polarization, though.
The other big caveat is that you'll lose a *lot* of light (up to 4 stops depending on what sort of polarizing films/filters you use) doing that. The GVMs might run out of power, but that isn't anything that a Nova p300c or two can't fix. What was the theme of this review again? :-)
Full disclosure: My experience with this technique is from macro- and product-photography. I haven't personally used it for videography, but the principles are universal. All you're really doing is making your light[s] polarized like the Sun, and then using a cpol filter as usual to knock down specular glare from the Sun.
@@patrickchase5614 Thanks for the suggestion.
Great job!
Nice video!
Thanks!
Serious value. I like that they have manual controls unlike the elgato key lights I have, at half the price!
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Cool product! this is really important for streaming. :)
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great review!
Thanks Jordan.
I did not even know that there was such as a thing as a C-clamp light stand. That by itself is great info, Curtis, much appreciated, and I have just now located such a stand by itself to streamline my workspace a bit by mounting my fill light and getting that light stand off the floor (I am noticing that some people even use them for their cameras, but caution is advised). One item: from what I am looking at online the GVM kit with the C-clamp stands is available on the Amazon site but not on B&H. B&H seems to just have standard light stands with these. I could be overlooking something, of course. Thanks for more learning and Happy New Year! - Dave
Thanks Dave and I hope the c-clamp stand works well for you. Happy recording!
This looks like an amazing kit for the price.
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I have these, and you can control the lights independently over wifi in master/slave mode:
Set the slave to channel 1 and the master to channel 0- tell the app to control channel 1 and they both change, then set it to channel 0 and only the master will respond, so you can set that differently.
Thanks Peter. Nice find.
Your great
You are too.
Hi Curtis, thank you for the excellent review. I am highly considering this light for my next purchase. As you are the first reviewer who mentioned a desk mount, is there an option to clamp the stand to a table?
Hi Robin, the C-clamp kit (linked above at Amazon) can be attached to a desk or table as long as there is an open space at the edge of the table.
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Nice review, i’m now interested to see a tour of your studio and how you set it up with all the sound proofing. Btw what is the mic arm you use on your desk ?
Thanks Benjamin. We did a tour of the livestream setup here: czcams.com/video/l5ezlxFGYKw/video.html The panels are not so much for sound proofing, but for acoustical treatment (to manage the sound in the room, not to keep sound out). I worked with a designer at GIK Acoustics to design the panel plan for the room. Thanks for coming by!
I wonder if they will ever see if the lighting controls could be worked from a Streamdeck? You are right about the control feature on an iPad-- it drops from time to time.
Doubtful, but I could be wrong.
Thanks for the review! Is there a way to lock in a specific color? In other words, can you you make the light turn on "blue" automatically every time you turn them on?
They seemed to retain their settings from session to session.
Hey Curtis, loved the review. What is mic arm you are using on your desk? I like the low profile design of it!
That's the OC White ProBoom Ultima: bhpho.to/38NYY3M
Full disclosure - the link is an affiliate link. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
What is the best portable panel in your opinion that is in this size range? Obviously don’t want to have something super heavy or anything that needs a v Mount battery because sometimes we need to boom it over talent on a monopod.
This is probably the best at this price that I've used.
The look of this video was certainly different than your other videos, at least in my opinion.
Yes, I missed the reflections in the glasses - should have positioned them a bit higher to avoid that.
2021: Party it up™ with Curtis Judd!
Hahaha! These lights got the par-tay built in!
Thanks for this review.
Do you know how it compares to the Neewer RGB 660?
Hi Russell, I don't, I haven't used the Neewer RGB 600.
Hey there. Great video
I’m debating between these, and the gvm bi-color
Will this do everything the bi-color lights do, plus more? Or if I mostly need just regular lighting, will I get a better quality and more light if I just go with the bi color light?
It’s not that I don’t need the RGB. I’m sure it’ll come in handy sometimes. I make music videos, so firstly, I want to make sure I have solid good lighting. Afterwards, the RGB addition sounds cool, but as long as it’s not taking away from my main lighting purpose.
What dyou think?
You'll usually get more light from bi-color lights.
I have these lights and the multi shadow issue really put a damper on it for me. I bought them to light 2 subjects in a small room but didn’t want the light to spill into everything else. Unfortunately the barn doors cast the same multi shade effect. I’m trying to find a diffusion solution to work around it.
Yeah - diffusion should help with that.
Nice review... but the colors look strange. Have you color corrected the video? What WB setting have you used? What color profile? Is very important to know.
Tungsten white balance preset on camera and set the lights to 3200K. I didn't do any major color correction as I recall.
Your review are really great. I am interested to buy some GVM Led since the color quality looks great but the output are a bit to low ( same for the red one ) which stronger led would you reckon ? My budget is 600 Dollars for a kit and like around 350 for one panel but its to light way more surface. Thanks it can ve another brand as well
Perhaps have a look at the D&O 180W. It is more expensive but a LOT more output and still good color quality: czcams.com/video/yasDkVW1Pr8/video.html
@@curtisjudd Thank you for your sharing
Last week I ordered the GVM 50RS lights (set of 3). They are arriving tomorrow. Naturally, I downloaded the app already (it is the same app you mentioned). I really hate that you have to use its own network. And I really, really, wish GVM would publish the API for controlling their lights so we could write our own software to control them.
Oh, that's a good idea! Would be nice if you could write your own control app.
@@curtisjudd It would be nice both for us (we would get more control over the lights) and GVM (their lights would be more attractive to buyers).
@@curtisjudd My lights have arrived today, and I noticed on page 11 of the manual it casually mentions a DMX “mode” and then describes all the other modes but never mentions DMX again.
DMX, as you probably know better than me, is an industry standard protocol for controlling slave lights using cables with 5-pin XLR connectors. So, presumably these lights use the same protocol wirelessly. I am not familiar with the details of the DMX protocol, but someone who is might be able to study the data travelling between the app and the light and figure out exactly how the app controls the light, and then write a better app.
For one, a better app would allow us to save the current state in a file (and different states in different files), then let us load the state from the file without us having to recreate the exact same colors as used on an earlier day, or even an earlier week, etc.
Thx!
R9 in 5500K is not so good though.
Also, do these have fans, are they noisy?
No fans.
Hi Curtis, if you buy just one of these which don’t come with a stand, will any light stand work? Do you have any recommendations?
Yes, most any light stand will do the job. I got frustrated with the affordable stands so all mine are much more expensive now, mostly c-stands.
@@curtisjudd ok thanks Curtis
Nice review, those lights look useful. Do you know how they compare to the Neewer 660 RGB lights?
Thanks Jerry. I haven't used the Neewer lights so I'm not sure.
great video curtis.
hey why don't you make a video on studio setup or join gerald undone's studio undone series?
Thanks Parth. We did a livestream setup tour here: czcams.com/video/l5ezlxFGYKw/video.html
How do you get the special effects mode? Pressing the mode button only cycles through master, slave, Wi-Fi and rotate, but no special effects.
I believe I did it from the app (I gave them to someone who needed them more than me so I don't have them here to check). You might also contact GVM support. Best wishes!
hi there, can you make videos about glasses reflection from monitor or lighting?
Yes: czcams.com/video/B_RJ7tViw2g/video.html
Strange that the link to these lights to B&H has regular light stands and the Amazon has the desktop stands. Is there anyone selling the desktop stands on their own? I bought a few cheap LED panels years ago and the light was passable, but one at a time they started dimming on their own - for no apparent reason. So they ended up in the garage of buying mistakes that I have slowly building up in size, with me thinking that someday I will get the multimeter out and attempt to fix them. Thanks for this video. Although they appear to be okay, you usually are a lot more lit than this and it looks a little dull in comparison to your regular video presentations.
Thanks for the feedback, Jim.
Nikon has a similar connection issue with one of its wifi so you may want to turn airplane mode on.
Ok, thanks
Hi Curtis - I've watched a number of your videos on light reviews lately and you've shown repeatedly this chart of SSI / CRI and 20+ variables. Is this something you make yourself? I can't imagine manufacturers provide this info in a standardized way. Thanks for your work. Many people appreciate it.
Hi Aly, I use a Sekonic C-800 spectrometer to get those readings from each light. The metrics are defined by various industry groups. SSI, for example, is a metric that was defined by the Motion Picture science and tech committee. Most manufacturers will only list the overall CRI value. But some of the more forward looking manufacturers will now list TLCI or even SSI in their specifications (e.g., Aputure has started listing SSI in addition to CRI and TLCI).
@@curtisjudd thanks!
Any soft box recommendations for these panels? The one made by GVM seems inefficient for sets.
I haven't found any soft boxes for this size light, unfortunately.
@@curtisjudd thank you for taking the time to respond. Would the D-Fuse Collapsible Trapezoid fit with the barn doors?
@@timothyandabigail You could make it work, though I believe the opening on the D-Fuse is a bit bigger than this light.
@@curtisjudd would a square one from Neewer work better?
@@timothyandabigail Haven't tried that one, so I'm not sure.
Could you please tell me which app do I download to control the light thanks
Sorry, I don’t remember, probably best to contact GVM support. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd thanks for replying back I truly appreciate it
What Kelvin temperature did you have those GVM on?
3200K
@@curtisjudd wow, The lighting on you looks amazing!
@@joonajks Thanks! I only wish I had positioned them a bit higher to avoid reflections on the glasses.
We always knew your wife played violin, but she also teaches it? Nice.
Curtis, are you and the rest of the family musical, as well? You could call yourselves "The Judd's". Wait, is that already taken? Dang... well, I'd give anything to hear you hit us with some Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, or maybe even some Billy Joel.
Unless you're of a metal head, in which case I'm sure Judas Priest is right up your alley. No? Okay then.
Take your time to release that solo album; I've got time.
Cheers, sir!
I'm thinking more along the lines of Rage Against the Machine. 😉
@@curtisjudd Whoa! Perhaps some Soundgarden on the side then, too? Hahaha!
@@insanejughead Haha!
Why is this video not 4K quality
Because it was recorded with an ATEM Mini Pro ISO which is HD.
Paid $160 for 2 and 2 light stands, which weren’t bad.
Wow, that's a steal.