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- Nick Wright joins Colin Cowherd on The Herd to talk about the latest in sports news. They start, of course, with Nick's Kansas City Chiefs, who are heading to Super Bowl LVII with Patrick Mahomes at the reigns. Nick makes an argument for Mahomes being one of the best (if not THE best) quarterback to ever play in the league, and shares his thoughts on who could challenge him for that title. Plus, the Green Bay Packers appear to be moving away from their veteran quarterback Aaron Rodgers in favor of Jordan Love. Nick tells Colin whether he thinks that's wise. They also talk LeBron James, who sat out of the Los Angeles Lakers' match against the Brooklyn Nets.
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Is Mahomes greatest of all time? Aaron Rodgers vs. Jordan Love, talks LeBron sitting out | THE HERD
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Nick’s rants are gold
Jordan’s Achievements are Diamonds - Literally
Fools gold. They only have bearing with casuals
Yeah if you're a freaking idiot like him. Never before did anyone take career points into account in the GOAT debate. If they did then Kareem would be on all these guys #1. But he's not! So why do they say LeBron is the undisputed GOAT if he passed Kareem? See, it makes no logical sense by their own standard lol.
All time highest regular season PPG average. All time highest playoff PPG average. All time highest NBA finals PPG average. All time highest point totals in a finals series. All time highest scoring average in a finals series. 10 more scoring titles than LeBron James! Nobody has ever been a better scorer than Michael Jordan. But Nick says LeBron is a "better scorer". Make that make sense lol.
The one thing about nick is, he will fight any point he believes in but he will bring facts with those arguments. He will so rarely come in with just gut feeling to make his argument. He would be wildly annoying if I wasn't a chiefs fan but he sure knows his stuff. Having a strong advocate arguing for your team is really great
@@DcLoki12 I think Nick is good at decorating the tree and putting gifts under it. But when you open the gifts you realize how shallow his arguments really are. Makes for great sports talk though
Said it once, I’ll say it again. Nick is the most lovable annoyance ever haha
He’s good other than his Jordan hate. If he lost that he be pretty good
@@brentt8940 idt he hates jordan. He just doesn’t deify him like 99% of the media
@@brentt8940 he's probably just sick of dealing with Jordan nut huggers his whole life so he overcorrected
@@ToddBrown00 I mean just because people think he’s the goat it’s a stupid reason to bash him.
@@brentt8940 again…he doesn’t bash him.
Dang got to admit it, Nick has been killing it.
The Philadelphia Eagles vehemently disagree
As a Kiosk owner in a dirty mall?
The long hair is giving him wisdom!
He’s killing Mahome. The bigger and more media influential Nick becomes in the next decade, the more people will hate on Mahome and the Mahome as the goat garbage.
@@nolanko1265 : Just two years ago, everybody but Nick was struggling to decide who was better between Mahomes and Russ.
Mahomes has a cute game. I love his game. He’s one of the best ever. But he’s not the GOAT.
Nick is entering his prime
Nick is the man, most entertaining guy at the moment
True which is crazy when you think about him 4-6 years ago
If you mean annoying. Then yes. Who the f would ever say he’s more entertaining then Shannon? Wilde’s even on his own show. It’s not entertainment.
It’s bias bs for lebron and Mahommes.
They should start a new olympic event skiing Nick’s nose .
Nick in his bag mane 🤣💯
Nick is paid to keep sports relevant. His entire industry NEEDS another Brady. Maholmes keeps him employed to talk about him. That’s why he’s biased 😂
@D F 💯 nick should pretend mahomes records aren't real and his play as the best QB in the league is actually 5th beat or something to be contrarian and get clicks
@@GenghisWanghis Hurts has more records that matter, more wins, reached the SB at a younger age, better passing and rushing stats. Hurts is like 2x the QB that Mahomes is already in 2nd year as a starter. Take Mahomes away from Andy Reid and hes nothing, Brady won a SB on another team with a different coach
@Ty Nao for sure. All those "wins that matter" against the inferior NFC. Good point 🤡 1/2 the qb for sure though
@@tynao2029 LMFAO GTFOH
Nick is just crushing it at the moment
No his Jordan take is so biased. At least during his Mahomes takes he doesn't have to leave facts out to win
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He got so many things wrong here.
Nick thinks he knows his stuff but gets stuff wrong all the time.
1.) LeBron 2nd most mins ever behind Kareem (1500 mins behind including playoffs) not “most mins ever”
2.) Kent Benson was punched by Kareem (not “Kurt Benson”). He was on the last undefeated College basketball team 1976 Hoosiers.
3.) “Kareem played 8 more years after breaking Wilt’s scoring record” No he broke it in 83-84 and played until 88-89 you goof that’s 5-6 years!
Nick is on point about Mahomes but dead wrong about Lebron
@@ownthelibs did you watch his greatest of all time list? What part was biased?
Colin Cowherd used to rub me the wrong way but he's growing on me. I'm a fan now. The guy's pretty smart and his analysis is pretty accurate and enlightening maybe. The word is hiding from me. Thought provoking. Good job Colin and Nick. The same goes for Nick Wright actually too.
So happy I stayed for the Paul Pierce dig at 11:54 LMAO
I love it!
It was actually a MJ dig.
we just gonna forget brady vs the falcons
You gonna forget Malcolm Butler and Adam Vinatieri?
@@laverdad159 wait who scored the gaming winning points for the chiefs again? Who made the most clutch sack?
We forget Atlanta literally giving away the game on offense. And James White.
@@mikesingh6099 Exactly, SB are team award.
@@laverdad159 Don’t forget Brady put up the most passing yards, TDs and points in the 4th quarter against maybe best defense of the decade, and the defense was totally blowing the game away until Malcom butler.
All of those games with Adam Vin, Brady had to put him in position. With zero hall of fame WRs.
I agree it’s a team game but don’t discount that Brady is the common denominator.
They didn't even mention how NBA teams jack up their prices for Lakers road games because of LeBron and AD and then they don't play. I logged in to the Pacers website a few minutes ago and the team site was charging $79 a seat for a Lakers game in the nosebleeds. The same seat later in the week against the Cavs is $9 on the team site.
Thats crazy. The NBA is all star driven. I think it hurts the league.
@@Rome_22 that's what happens when you let the players run the league these sitting out is a black eye
Well…yeah?
Cry about it and pick a game where they’re likely to play
@Carter Bilbro How do you propose people to do that when they only play Eastern Conference teams once a season on the road? Also how do you propose that when a player is perfectly healthy and they decide to sit out the next game with little warning to load manage?
Jordan lives rent-free in Nick’s head
Yes! But that happens on both sides of the road against Lebron as well!!🙋♂️
If this is a simulation, it is done purely for my enjoyment 🤣🤣🤣
That may have been Nicks best segment ever haha
I got two words for Nick: No Weaknesses
Nick just completed the strongest, LeBron James goat take I’ve ever heard lol
I'm a Jordan guy but I feel like I just took a solid body shot...
It was a pretty good argument, I still pick Jordan but great argument tho
Yeah, but his argument for Mahomes over Brady completely contradicts his argument for Lebron over Jordan.. he can't have it both ways
Although it feels like that it his argument doesn’t account for what Jordan meant against his competition. Ok that style of basketball , with hand checking and Centers who actually play at the paint and not so much emphasis on 3pt shooting, averaging a high ppg was harder. I would love to see Jordan’s numbers if stretched to 19-20 years to see what his counting stats would have been
@@mjcastro82 nick also said jordan was just an average defender.. that alone loses all his credibility on the debate
Love how colin lets nick come on once a week just to rant 😭🤣🤣
I am here for Nick's humility! Awesome segment
love nick!
NICK the MAN 😂😂😂
I agree with Nick and don’t this much lmao. Love Nick because he has such conversations of his opinions.
Nick, you're the best!
Love Nick!
the random paul pierce slander 😂😂
Also, Stockton's assists and steals record won't be broken forever.
Probably not Hakeem's blocks either especially with how the game is played now
You're leaving out THE record holder: Chamberlain. His career rebound record will stand longer than any other record. He retired 50 years ago and still holds 68 records!
Love that top 5 Qb picks by Nick. That's my top 5
Make a rule that when you are a healthy scratch you have to sit and shake hands and take pictures with fans for the duration of the game
Yeah the final boss to be called the Greatest of All Time is LITERALLY Nostalgia. You gotta defeat the legend who came before you.
and Mahomes lost against Brady
@@tynao2029 and Brady lost to Eli both times in the SB, and he was favored both times. At least Mahomes was playing with a backup LT, RT, and G, and turf toe. Brady and his team were fully healthy both times against the underdog Giants.
@@boki424 yeh thats cus NFC is better than AFC especially the NFC East
This video title is so problematic lol
"I'm going to sit back and enjoy your graceful manner" lmao
What does Nick say at about 5:53? The audio gets blanked out for a few seconds, and I'm not a lip reader haha.
Nick Wright impressive
Man the hate for Jordan is real !
Wonderful set 😅
Hate to admit it, Nick Wright is going to be on top of the sports radio game
I'm old enough to remember Brady wasn't even allowed to be considered until he had 4 and 2 losses and no one considered him better until 5 rings. Mahomes isn't even allowed to be mentioned until he gets to 4 or 5 and then he still lost head to head to Brady
But can you admit Brady was never as good as Mahomes
You have bad memory then dog lmao
@@soundwriter3083 maybe not as athletic, but he was just as accurate with his ball placement and more cool under pressure
@@hfmj32 Based on what? Mahomes is statistically more clutch than any other QB in history in the postseason
What happened this year when they played head to head?
Nick is hilarious
Nick Wright is my GOAT. I truly only watch Fox Sports because of this man
This rant was just absurdely good basically ending the whole bron jordan thing in 2 minutes
Nick is turning into the Count Dooku of the media
His arguments make me laugh lol.
The guy he plays darts and cornhole with🤣🤣🤣
Ick Wright killing em.. all facts
Nick loves underselling Jordan's 6 is so crazy to me 😆
IT’s entertainment 1 and to hype lebron sayin Russell has 11 is nonsesnse and doesn’t help cause it’s still more than 4 with 1 bubble.
Can we at least let him win this Super Bowl before we go down this conversation lol…?
Well I mean he’s never known a season (as starter) where he didn’t lead his team to an AFC championship. In his second season he was the second quarterback to ever throw over 5000 yards? Insane when you really think about it.
If he loses this Superbowl he will be 1-2 in the big dance with one of those losses coming from the Goat himself. Won't make a lick of sense to call Mahomes the greatest in that scenario, so thats why I say we hold off obviously.
@@zeusonolympus123 u clearly aren't listening or just a hater.. Or both.. if he wins his SECOND S.B. during his THIRD S.B. appearance in his FIRST 5 years as starter, (NOT TO MENTION ALL THE STATS RECORDS HE'S CRUSHING) what u gonna say then?..
@@andyscoming4919 Mahomes isnt even the best QB in the AFC or the NFL, let alone one of the GOATs. Without Andy Reid or in the NFC East, he would be a 5 win QB
@@kcguy8864 Mahomes would need at least 7 SB rings, and one of them would need to be on another team with another coach. Aint happening....and Hurts is already better than Mahomes and has reached the SB at a younger age
9:57 Nick’s answer to this question might be the greatest rant Nick has had all year.
Brilliant ideia
Nick is so transparent. Mahomes is the greatest because he's on the team Nick likes.
He is the greatest because he’s the greatest. You been watching football the past 5 years?
😂 5 years ahahaahahaahahahaahaa
@@df6148 i don't get what's so funny
@@kcguy8864 because in the past 5 years Brady has 2 rings Maholmes has 1. One of those was even a head to head win vs KC. And Brady is OLD 😭. And they talking goat. The GOAT already dealt with KC at their best and Brady and Gronk were at their worst.
@@df6148 You are comparing offensive players as if they actually match up on the field at the same time. That Bucs team would have won that game with Jimmy Garapolo playing quarterback. Brady is great, but he has benefited from great defenses his whole career and gotten all the credit. He loses to the Seahawks without his defense too. Would that have made Russell Wilson better than Brady? Or is Wilson better than Payton Manning???
Mahomes is more physically gifted, but Brady’s talent has gotten him 7 SB. Talent is more than just physical gifts.
you seem to have replaced the word defence with talent
Brady a beaast, but man its football, gotta consider the defense
@@zeusonolympus123 W comment🤣🤣🤣that actually made me laugh🤣im stealing that one
Nick's argument for Lebron over Jordan TOTALLY contradicts his argument for Mahomes over Brady... ??
Nick Wrong
Nick is right. They should load management home games I agree
Geez the pr work done by Nick for Lebron James over the years is simply astounding
he hasn’t lied once
@@rushbenjamin613 lmao all he does is lie and omit facts. He’s great at creating arguments, but anyone with half a brain can poke holes in it
@@Joes35 like he left out scoring titles
He is on Klutch Sports payroll which should give pause to anyone that takes Nicks Lebron-related opinions seriously.
Nick complains about LeBron not getting fouls, then proceeds to tell Bengals fans to be quiet about refs?
My biggest complaint with Nick is this. He’s inconsistent
Nick is the Goat guest!
It must be the shoes!
-spike lee
Mahomes walks like he’s pregnant.
i know what you mean😭
It's from his wife pegging him
Lmao I thought I was the only one that noticed. He be waddling.
😂
My mom even said he walks like that pregnant auntie who chasing after her other kids ..🤣🤣
In response to Nick saying Kareem’s scoring record has been considered the only truly unbreakable career NBA record, I would definitely argue that John Stockton’s assists & steals records are equally, if not more “unbreakable” for lack of a better term
Facts about John records
True but the way people glorify scoring is what made Kareems stand out... it's literally what the fans wanna see
Absolutely the assists record is unbreakable ! Wilts record 100 point game is more breakable not likely but Stockton career assists not happening!!
Agree, and Hakeem Olajuwon's blocks record isn't going anywhere either,
@@Kfabiano10 I had to refresh my memory on this and man, you ain’t lying! 🤯
8:20 that’s the problem right there…. it’s a league that market’s the stars….. it’s about the team, not one player.
Nick it was elite 🔥
Brady went into arrowhead, beat MVP mahomes, switched conferences and blew him out of the water in the Superbowl. Never forget that
Wooow he beat mahomes when mahomes had a depleted oline filled with rookies😱
At Arrowhead, if the nothing-but-luck overtime coin toss had gone Mahomes' way, the Chiefs might have won.
@@ajsvista maybe try to win the game during regulation. Or how about this: don't let Tom convert 3 straight 3rd and 10s
@checkProcessedVideo of course it's luck but overtime is basically starting a new game, only way to decide who gets ball first is a coin toss. They changed the rules anyway both teams get a possession now because buffalo threw a fit last season
@@BigBossIsBackyep because it wasn’t mahomes 1 year starting and I didn’t know mahomes played defense
MJ was DPOY same year he won one of his 10 straight scoring titles while not being a 3 point shooter
What, a backcourt won DPOY, MVP and a scoring title while winning the slam dunk contest. Only GOATs do that
Facts
With Pipen and rodman on the teams I'm not sure Jordan was ever the best defender on his team.
Hang on, did MJ really do that? Wow. Oh, dang it. He didn’t win the title that year, right? Ah well, doesn’t count. Am I doing this right?
@@fanatical56 yes exactly good job
Nick talking about Skip with the Lebron rant
I like Colin's idea
I hate to break it to Nick but the only record in the NBA that is not attainable is John Stockton's assist record.
How about the blocks record
@@dartdude4084 I would agree with probably most defensive records. The NBA doesn't allow defense in today's game.
Celtics Championship run of 7 out of 8 seasons will NEVER be broken. Also Wilt's 100 points in a game.
@@Jakery1057 a 100 point game will definitely be broken. I'm a Utah fan and I've watched Donovan his whole career he just got 71. The way people are putting up points in the amount of 3 pointers being shot there's no question on my mind that will happen. And I don't count the championships That is a team accomplishment That's not an individual accomplishment. We are clearly talking about individual acolates. That's just my opinion though there's no fact behind that. So if for you that is a record that you don't think will be broken that's fine.
@@agtjackbauer Yeah valid points. If I were to bet I'd probably side with your thinking.
I love how the media leave out the part that Jordan accomplished EVERYTHING he accomplished in the NBA in only 15 years, meanwhile it took Paul Pierce 19 years and Bron is on year 20 and counting..... that makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE because it shows Jordan was MORE IMPACTFUL in less time in the NBA
Truth! It's simple logic, why do people convince themselves otherwise?
FACTS 💯
That then gets into level of competition, how the game changed and what you value. If you value accomplishment, longtivity MJ isn't the goat. Talent is greatly debatable but I give the edge to LeBron because MJ s style is easier to replicate and overall Lebron does more (in my opinion). Finally you have to ask how much do you value clutchness and championships(MJ wins) Now some people take outside influencers like how legendary are they into the argument (MJ has the better shoes, MJ horrible tenour as owner ect). Based on my values LeBron wins but it's different for everyone
Paul pierce always catching strays 😂
Nick is turning into Dracula with that beard and hair face for radio voice for news paper
Can mahomes win 2 super bowl before we take about him becoming the 🐐
You're literally not fkn listening
Well, that could be as early as two weeks from now.
@@marinoderienzo3176 or maybe not
Regarding LeBron and Nick's GOAT discussion, Kareem would have to be The GOAT, long before LeBron, with more titles, more MVPs and more points for 40 years. And Kareem was blocking 4 shots a game throughout the 70s, so he was also the best defender in the league, for a decade. So if Kareem has never been The GOAT, same goes for LeBron, who has a weaker resume
Bron is a far more better talent
Wilt>Kareem
@@SmdBitch348 talent? yes. results? no.
Yes but kareem was not the best defender. He only made 1st team all def 3x in the 70s, which was a weak era anyway. The reason he is not the GOAT is b/c Kareem is the only supposed GOAT candidate to miss the playoffs twice in his prime, and wasn't even the best player on half his championships. That alone excludes him from being in Jordan's league.
Yea but (enter name here) of the (enter team name here) the starting (enter position here) couldn’t play college basketball today let alone the NBA. Meanwhile (enter random 6-7th man in the rotation on any team), would be one of the best talents in the league. Bro Julius Erving couldn’t dribble behind his back. It’s a completely different talent level, brian scalebrine no doubt would’ve been a 20 and 10 power forward if you just move him back 20 years..into the 80s for him a 2000s player. The talent has developed another 20 years since then.
I never thought the all time scoring record was in breakable I think averaging 50 is unbreakable
LMAOOOOOOO 0:04
Pure bar by nick “that was a time when men were men” wtf has this world come to ugh😢
And the sheep were scared
Mahomes is the greatest talent of all time but longevity has to count for something. There's a difference between legacy and talent. His legacy would already be set if he never played another game but he has to do it for longer. If he keeps going on like this for a few more years then we can start the GOAT conversations. He's currently the GTOAT (Greatest Talent of All Time)
Aaron Rodgers
@@Jaccobtw
Lmao no lol
Rodgers more talented
@@alexbenton6306 these guys are buggin. Rodgers was that… then Mahomes came in and is a completely different animal. He can make any throw from any platform and doesn’t take sacks
@@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot Lmao no
I actually like Colin’s 90-85% number of games theory on how to combat load management. I personally don’t see anything wrong with load management, but if I did that’s a good solution.
Personally if the NBA went down to 64 games. 20 divisional games, 30 non-div conference games (where every team has at least one chance to see a star in conference) and 14 non conference games (home and away for 7 non conference teams) that can make things a lot more interesting in the regular season AND leave no excuse for load management.
Frankly the NBA being a star driven league is why they need to pivot to more of a team driven league like the EPL and NFL. When’s the last real team rivalry the NBA had? Indiana and Detroit in 04? Atlanta and NY in 2020-2021? That’s the issue.
I’d include 2008 - 2010 laker vs Celtics and 2014-2017 Cleveland vs GS. Those were some nice rivalries
nick "the media is not covering lebron breaking kareem record" they been tracking it since training camp
Nick killed it on his take on Jordan lol
Yea he did! Just wow that’s the best argument I’ve ever heard on why mj is not the goat and bron is
If Aaron was made to sit for a month then 100% he wont be coming back regardless how Love performed.
Astute point !
on dE!!! on more
Let's load manage in the NFL
Before we enter Mahomes into the goat debate I want to see him win at least 4 superbows tying Joe Montana. But I do agree as an overall qb he is better than Brady.
The advances we have in nutrition sports medicine and just total knowledge about working out and specific muscles involved in the sport. This does give Mahomes an advantage as he was growing from a small age surrounded by football.
And I guarantee that probably there will be someone more talented than Mahomes say 20+ years from now. Logically just based from an evolution and further discoveries particularly medicine and enhancing humans.
100 years from now the athletes in the NFL (if it still exists lol) will undoubtedly be better in all aspects (Speed, Strength, Agility, Perception) All of it then some than they are now.
more athletic than brady but not better than brady
Type all of that when you could’ve just said “I’m a prisoner of the moment” 😂
The advances havent made better athletes. Maybe longer careers along with rule changes
@@kooliosis47 Brady would've been some random sixth round no-namer had he suited up for the Cleveland Browns retiring at around 2008-09 after a few decent years as a backup and veteran clipboard holder. But he played for the Patriots and we know how that turned out.
What makes Patrick special goes beyond the physical capabilities. It's the intangibles as well...
Nick is the best in the business right now
Jonah Hill documentary??? Lmao.
Nick Wright hit another home run
No he didnt.
I mean this has always happened
Manning was “more talented”
Rodgers was “more talented”
Now it’s Mahomes is “more talented”
Let’s just see how his career plays out before we start awarding the title because EVERY single time people try to give the mantle to someone other than Brady they’ve been hilariously wrong
At the beginning of this season they were all saying Allen was the most gifted we have ever seen. Allen is Elway, Mahomes is Rodgers, Burrow is Brady. Not sure who Mannings equivalent is, maybe ???
Can't believe they didn't mention Unitas!! Dude!! And I'm too young to have really see him play.
Unitas? You serious? Unitas prob wouldn’t even make a d1 college team if he played today😭
Why they compare basketball player with football player
Wow nick shredded the Jordan is the all time greatest argument so many facts spit! Would love to see Jordan homers come back at that
say it loud for the guys at the back 💯
Basically lebron played longer than MJ so he’s the goat.
Jordan did more than LeBron in less years played more rings, finals MVPs, League MVPs
Scoring titles, steals titles more DEF team selections more gold medals
With less help than LeBron in the 88 season
Jordan was the scoring champ
MVP DPOY STEALS LEADER ALL NBA 1ST ALL DEF 1ST DUNK CHAMP ASG MVP all in one season
96 & 98 won
League MVP
Finals MVP
ASG MVP
Scoring Champ
All NBA 1st
All DEF 1st
and all that was sandwich in between a 3peat
LeBron played longer so he’ll have the numbers but the achievements belong to Jordan most decorated player in league history
@@richardturner1063 goat can’t even dominate little jj barea in the post
Dude get out of here. Lebron not even the greatest Laker ever. Kareem Magic and Kobe are better. I would take all 3 over Lebron, but I would take Jordan over all 4. You said you wanted to hear it.
Dude's kinda on point ngl.
Colin left weights 😂 😂😂😂😂😂
It be really nice to see Patrick get his 2nd ring before Tom Brady retires this year! Lebron never passing MJ. MJ didn't need to jump from super team to super team to win rings!
MJ has the super team every other team didnt even come close.. stay woke
@@allthingseveryting maybe in his 2nd three peat, but people act like that first bulls team was a super team with 3 or 4 all stars on it. That was incredible to win 3 in a row with that team and with one all star
@@allthingseveryting it's was the same team that drafted him. He suck around didn't go play with Patrick, Charles! There a huge difference! If you can't see that you need glasses!
@@allthingseveryting yea that bj armstonng and luc Langley were awesome star players
Brady already retired!
Nick wright is a national treasure
Nick's the best, man. Kills it.
He's a hack. And he's getting paid to ride Lebron
8:09 it’s not the visiting teams job to fill the stadium.
The freaking media is so worked up to push Brady out the door. Yes what Mahomes is doing for KC is impressive to say the least, but stop this half-baked coronation of Mahomes as a GOAT when he hasn’t come close to winning 2 rings (pending upcoming SB)
he HAS come close to winning 2 bc he HAS appeared in 2
Deion Sanders is the GOAT, im taking him first all time
Michael Jordan would've won 8 championships in a row if he didn't retire. That's what people need to understand.
Would’ve should’ve could’ve. Y’all MJ fans are hilarious. The man won 6 championships, not 8. He decided to retire, so he takes the hit for not winning 8 in a row.
@@jeanjacques7874 yes but you know he would have more if he played longer. But 6 titles in 15 years (11 full, healthy seasons) is still better than Lebron's 4 titles in 20+ years
@@scoop2448 No one is arguing that 4 is better than 6. I’m just stating a damn fact. Any player could say well if this didn’t happen , I’d be a 10 time champion. It doesn’t work like that. Either a player did or didn’t.
@@jeanjacques7874 lebron can’t post up little jj barea
Nick had some good points about MJ 🤔
Ya, Nick isn’t biased at all
Mahomes the GOAT????? Are you kidding??? One SB win??? Rodgers has one. Dilfer also has one. If Mahomes loses another SB, ummm ok. It’s a different game as well. QB is protected. Give me Montana any day.
Today's stats mean nothing since the league is so soft. It would be like giving major league hitters kevlar bats and comparing stats to those back in the day.
No he's not the greatest of all time. THAT IS BRADY. NOT MAHOMES. Lefraud will never be over Jordan. Man can't even get a DPOTY in a soft NBA. Nick is delusional.
thank you for your input user-random-numbers
Saying people will “never” be surpassed is such a lazy way of thinking and shows a clear bias that’s not worth debating
@@jarodrochell1310 lol lefraud won't. He hasn't even won one DPOTY and never will oit do all of Jordans prowess. Lemme know if you want to wager on this. I gladly will lefraud and his stans are the clowns of the earth.
@@SteveSmith-br3vu wager on what, 39 year old lebron winning DPOTY??? Wtf kind of wager is that 😂😂😂😂 anyone using nicknames like “lefraud” is clearly a little biased and likely a smidge deranged. And I’m not even a lebron fan 😂
@@jarodrochell1310 he hasn't got it his whole career. Biased? I call him lefraud based on a myriad of things.