The Reason for Almost All Mental Illnesses - Prof. Jordan Peterson
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- Psychology professor Jordan B. Peterson identifies the root of almost all mental illnesses.
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I don't care..If I don't care I will stay sane
Well obviously Jordan is trying to sell product. F*** him He's now public domain. Every word he says is open for everyone to repeat even if it's just a minor comment. You know what he should do? Offer his services for free to random people and he can pick whoever you choose is. But he needs to offer for free.
Of course she's not smart enough to actually console or provide information to me that I don't already know, but the weaklings that he needs to think about.
@@johnston.scott64 For all the good he has done,
don't you agree that he deserves an income ?
Do you work for free ?
Perhaps you should try it.
Try what@@55fixcom? Not working in free money?
Honestly I don't have a choice. I know people will pay Jordan for an interview or two because his controversial. And he probably has books out, I'm sure he does, I just don't know what they are where they are.
But that's not the point of my post..
"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes."
- William Gibson
Narcissistic parents or significant others can drive any empath to insanity quickly
😄😄😄
His quote seems like a joke, but it is super accurate. I found this stat super interesting. Even though 100% of foster children can go to college for free because it is completely paid for by the state, they are the group least likely to attend or graduate.
Solely due to their chance of birth by deadbeats, they are gimped from childhood. Totally stinks.
@@roberthiggins2252 Well, more so because the shame and guilt associated with their lack of forgiveness manifests in a multitude of hellish ways
define assholes.
Kindness goes a long way in the mind of someone who is overwhelmed.
it does 🥺
Wish my ex thought of kindness when my dad died then she decided to find our daughter a new daddy. It got complex lol.
Kindness works on many levels
Very true
Yes.
That’s exactly what happened to me. Got hit with wife getting cancer, teenage daughter running off with boys, colleagues at work being horrible, stopped sleeping properly and boom anxiety and panic through the roof. That was three years ago and I’m still in the process of recovery
I hope you are doing better man. That’s a lot to deal with.
@@kalobadams7803 thanks brother. I’m trying to get through this one day at a time
Good. You got this. One day at a time. God bless you and yours
@@ArtTherapyFromeHome thanks 🙏🏻
@@jpage99999 absolutely. And pat yourself on the back for how far you’ve made it and what you’ve made it through.
So true, I feel those with the least complex lives who live the simple life with a warm supporting family live the best longest lives.
Actually having faith in Christ helps you live the longest . Mental balance and nutrition does , and don’t do jobs that h affect you well being
Truth.
One of the worst things about growing up in a dysfunctional family is that you are literally trapped with a bunch of horrible people for at least18 years, and by the time you are finally able to leave them all behind you are so exhausted mentally that you end up spending your 20s/30s/40s reliving your childhood which in turn leaves you with zero energy to even make an attempt at leading a less complicated life
@charissecoal eventually you will just feel relief. Forgive them in your own quiet little way, don't let them live rent free in your head, and soon you'll have so much more space to do the things you've always wanted to do :)
I know what you mean. My childhood was basically horrible because of a monster dad. I'm still working on how to lessen the blow of how i was raised. I know i don't live that life because it was a long time ago, but its hard to just forget your past.
@@kylekyle7386 and you never will. But your past doesn't have to define you, either. Over time you will heal.
There are nearly 8 billion people in this world, and I'd say at least half of them are great. Having a good support system to help you through the healing is everything.
I can relate a little bit. I'm 20 years old at this moment. In my case "reliving my childhood" was a good thing as I thought that it would take an important part in healing, preventing myself from harming myself or people around and taking the responsibility. Why? This behaviour was occuring before unconsciously, so you can imagine that it was taking place in a chaotic manner which wasn't really good, also an important thing to mention here is that, it was 18/19 years of not damn knowing myself, people around and my own feelings, I still have problem in recognizing, knowing what I feel and why I do, but I learn to do better. I'm kinda alienated emotionally and distrustful because of that, but that's fine and bearable if I make effort.
@@xKateshi you're massively bright at 20. You'll be fine :)
I was a happy kid until about 12 years of age. I had good grades in school, I was liked by teachers, I had friends with whom we played outside or played video games all our free time, we respected each other, I had girls whispering to each other I was cute and saying they wanted to go out with me. I was happy and interested in things. Then my mother forced me to switch schools to go to one I didn't want to, it was sort of this elite school for smart kids. She gave me no good reason to leave all I had behind, no discussion or anything. Just strictly said I would go. From then on, everything went downhill. I lost contact with my old friends, the status I had built up with them until then, my sense of place in the world, gone. I started getting bad grades, I refused to study, the teachers sensed that and started to dislike me, later even bully me. By the age of 15, I was smoking and drinking heavily. I had toxic friends all around me, leeching on me for various reasons. Then at age 17, I had my first full-blown panic attack. I found myself completely stunned by it. Back then, I didn't even know something like that existed and no one around me has ever talked about it (I come from a country in Europe where the former communist regime used to lock up people into mental institutions for political reasons). I kept it secret from everyone because I was so ashamed and afraid of being labeled crazy. It was so bad I couldn't even talk to a professional. All I could really do was look up information online. Long story short, with the help of many books by both self-help authors and psychologists, I conquered the beast. It took me six agonizing years. So there I was at age 23, basically starting my life all over. My point is, you can do it. The illness is there for a reason - so you can become wiser. My other point is, be very careful about people around you, including the ones very closest to you. The fact is everyone is fighting their own demons, and so they might not always have your best interest in mind. I wish you all the best.
Which books did you read?
@@israeledler From self-help:
Barry McDonagh (Panic Away), Susan Jeffers (Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway), Paul Dobransky (Mind OS was overall extremely helpful)
From psychology:
Luise Reddemann (deals with overcoming trauma), Robert Bly (Iron John has great insights into the parent-child relationships), Marie-France Hirigoyen (deals with abuse, Stalking the Soul was an eye-opener)
@Bernard Buonocore I'm sure you have very good reasons for experiencing the things you do. I hope that people around you give you the time and respect you deserve as all humans do.
Wish you a wonderful life
@Bernard Buonocore wow Bernard, sounds like you went through a lot. I've had encounters with beings outside our 4 dimensions too. I know Jesus Christ saves, as He has saved me from these beings and from a crummy upbringing. Please keep up the work of helping people find the one and only Savior.
As an emotion coach, this is also what I found to be true. Most people don't have a "disorder" that needs medication, but a complex life that feels out of control. Their life may be disordered (or the people around them) but that doesn't mean they have a disorder.
It does take a bit of work to muddle through the mess, but that's what I love doing with them!
an emotion coach? Is that the same as a life coach?
Emotion coach???? What kind of shit is that? Your brain is not enough prepared to get a psychology degree
@@FriendofDorothy yes but even less of a real thing
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Daniel how can i contact you 😢
I felt I was depressed before I met my husband. As soon as I did (someone who understood me, spoke my language) my "depression" lifted and I felt saner, more in control of myself and thought I could handle almost anything. It was truly remarkable.
I don't think that's good thing it means your happiness is directly tied to another person your fully dependent on him so what happens if he leaves you
I’m actually very independent but it is just a fact that when you resonate with someone it’s a beautiful thing!
@@lindacezanne1576thats beautiful to hear and very relatable
@@cleazy______5624we are deeply social beings. Of course our happiness depends on others around us
You are accepted and loved. What a relief.
“It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.”
― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
the biggest mistake you could make was to think you're alive when actually you're asleep in life's waiting room - waking life.
"I've always been afraid to die but I think I'm more afraid to live"
― Smashing Pumpkins - The Aeroplane Flies High
This .. Is so fucking accurate.. In middle school i dealt with a sucidal girl that fucked me up sideways . in the mirror i chose to embrace death just force mysef to be ok with it Almost 6 years later ive fully realized what a horible thing that was to do and what even more tragic it would be to continue that way of being. I dont fully fear death still but for fucks sake i definetley dont embrace it. And im happier than ive ever been and willing to do all i need to do to continue and progress my life
Meditations should accompany any ethical man. It is my #1 go to out of hundreds, if not thousands of books.
I Stanley where did you get the phrase waking life?
I'm not disagreeing I would like to know.
Yes! I always said “my depression is environmental” and it was. Only being around my family caused the problems. I cut them off and I have never felt hopeless
I’m miserable with them, miserable without them.
I can live neither with you nor without you.
It's ur psychological reaction to ur environment above all
Me too. I was stuck with evil venomous miserable monsters who tried to destroy my child's soul.
I had a safe home, loving family, awesome siblings, amazing grandparents, and had a lot of anxiety attacks growing up. And depressions. Think seasonal affective disorder mostly.
There was no reason I could see for me developing those problems.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need
Yes, dr.poras. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this
Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is dr.poras.
I can tell this guy has the kindest heart and has the most empathy I wish I could talk to him
Wish we could say that of him now. Fox purchased him and all he does is rants and raves
@@coffeeperson1461 you're a proper midwit
idk , i've heard him speak recently and he sounds like a misogynist.
@@herchelleonwood7463He was a liberal but liberalism died, infected fatally by the left. He had no where else to go to keep his integrity and sanity.
simp harder
I couldn't agree more. Most "mental illnesses" are completely normal responses to unaddressed trauma. Thanks for everything, JP 🌺
Yes, I've had psychology twice, and the key question that's calmed me both times is, "if a normal person had this happen to them, how do you think they'd feel?"
If your answer is, "the same as I feel now", then that's the start of your healing.
And then you realize that if illnesses are normal responses to trauma, there is something that causes that trauma in the first place ... some power or force or will that keeps making people sick and traumatized ... Evil ...
People usually don’t want to hear the harsh Truth that Evil exists and is beyond people
Good exists. Evil too.
@@Leo-pu5qt This is a channel about science, not ridiculous, uninformed, unscientific, superstitious claims about good and evil. This is the 21st century now.
@@HumansAreShitFactories Peterson also talks about Good, Evil, and religion. What appears ridiculous or uninformed to your mind is not necessarily so. Let me know when science has cured most diseases, seems to me more and more people are sick and more and more treatments do not cure.
@@Leo-pu5qt Indeed he does, but only in a metaphorical way. Science is a method, and has cured more diseases and solved more problems than religion ever has. Science is a solution, religion is a problem and creates m problems, as does your stupid superstitious mindset, an evolutionary relic. I see you erroneously make the argument from qualification. Wrong. Educated your mind then return.
This guy saved my life and helped my son move forward with our lives - he deserves the highest praise and recognition . Thank you sir
Jordan peterson sux
Regardless if Colonel Quickshifter was legit or not, this is the kind of garbage you post....me thinks you sux!
I’m a son I have no child but Jordan Peterson has helped our relationship and me and my father to understand his issues and why he is the way he is very understandable. His videos are so wise it causes such deep introspection and completely makes sense with how articulate his wording is for me personally.
I’m very glad he’s helped you and your son sir 👍🏻.
how. ?you finally cleaned your room ?what an accomplishment.
@@susanwjoh0re735 Clean environment is actually good to think better in..
But his point in that quote was an euphemism, you W m n take everything too literally and twist it 360 to your liking, totally missed his point..
As someone who has suffered from depression for a very long time i can honestly say that it's nothing i have personally done myself. It comes from outside influence such as death of friends and family at too young an age.
I Agree I Don't Believe it Comes From Trauma.I Believe it's A Brain Chemical Deficit and Trauma could Make It Worse!
From someone who suffered for decades with undiagnosed major and endogenous depression since preadolescence, finally being diagnosed in my early 40s, and upon my usual MO (since my 20s) of deep introspection to increase understanding of my inner workings, fully healed myself of both dysfunctions...
...from that long and productive journey within, It's easy to conclude my depressions were all my fault, they were my creations, I just didn't know this for decades before I had a name to my dysfunctions, nor did I understand this till the year I found the last piece to the puzzle and fully healed myself of them.
IOWs, Depression is a self-created response to events, it's a non-beneficial coping mechanism\skill...commonly created unconsciously, and only through deep introspection can one hope to finally see the underlying mechanisms and how they were created...
...thus once you realise you created these non-benefical response to life's difficulties, you then may realise you're also the one who can change, develop and heal yourself.
But if you think\believe you have no power over what you'll think and feel from your difficult experiences, how you'll respond, then you'll remain powerless and under the control of externals.
Agree. Too much loss, grief, and trauma can ruin one's life. We can have a constructive outlook but external forces, and our response to those, will shape our quality of life.
@@mjparham6430 the “brain chemical deficit” theory is actually misleading and a simplification of what professionals believe. It’s more of a politicized slogan. The chemicals are not the cause, but an observable process which is a byproduct of whatever the cause was.
Amazing , he summed up mental illness in 2 minutes and it makes complete sense. I find myself and others with mental illness do better with routine and not adding in complexity, changes.
Absolutely. Complexity, life out of control, was the catalyst for both of my breakdowns. Not my mental illness being the catalyst for the complexity.
Agree. I've never heard it explained like this before. Just feels like the truth.
"The political system collapses, you lose your job, and you have someone that you love or two people die..."
Damn - that's definitely the situation for a lot of people right now
Prophet Peterson predicted the coronavirus pandemic
They too were prophetic by their circumstantial knowledge
@TheBrabon1 Whoosh
if such a series of shit happen to some people, unless they are sick or physically hurt, They dont want to die. They wish to die, when they are finally happy again.
Definition of prophetic: accurately describing or predicting what will happen in the future. This happens all the time bro? Theres nothing metaphysical about it, if thats your problem? Smart people very often predict occurrences not a crazy concept lol
I grew up with a dad who rarely showed love and was quick to lose his temper and give out. I ended growing up quiet shy and afraid to speak because of him. Conversation was never free flowing and I felt/still feel like i can't connect to him. He's very negative too, maybe he's narcisstics, I don't know. His dad is the same way. The environment you grow up in has a huge impact on how you turn out. I was shy, developed social anxiety in my teens and clinical depression. I don't think this was all chance. I had a poor support network at home, felt it hard to make friends, a dad who was negative and felt I could never open up to or be myself around.I started hypontheraphy to clear core beliefs such as im worthless and unlovable since my dad showed me not much love, or it was always conditional. I'll never make the same mistakes if I ever have children. I feel better away from my dad and so will move out on my own soon, once I save up some money to do so.
Ps thank you for all the comments gus. They warm ny heart.
I wish you the best man. Glad to see you are taking the initiative to not pass that down.
I wish you all the best too. Just by reading this, I can tell that you are a thoughtful and kind person. I’m sure you have several other wonderful qualities as well that will bless your and others’ lives as you move on from your father and, unlike him, stop the cycle of toxicity.
I feel for you. It's so unfair that some people seem to suffer and there is no let up. The more you try, the more you drown
Hi Jack. I'm sorry to hear about what you've had to endure. It may not seem that way now, but you will come out of this and develop confidence in yourself to be a stronger person once you're free from all this. You already sound very caring and determined to take action for yourself. May I ask how old you are? I hope you manage to get away soon. Good on you for deciding to remove yourself from this awful environment as soon as possible. Wishing you all the best.
Jack you hit the nail on the head with this one. We are products of our environments, however we can overcome them. God Bless you son!
About 40 years ago I met a young woman on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Her sister asked me to speak to her. We met in a quiet room and I asked her how she was feeling, what was wrong. And then I just listened. She was distraught and jumped from one issue of distress to another. After about 15 minutes I handed her a pen and piece of paper. I said, let's make a list of these terrible problems. She grew quiet and began to write. Soon there was a small list of 6 items. Then I had her number them in order of severity. Next, I had her rewrite this list, leaving space between the issues, prioritized from top to bottom. Now we discussed each one from a perspective of how consequential each was, and pragmatically what could and should be done. After a bit, it turned out that half her list was actually fearful speculation, which she acknowledged. For the real problems she wrote below them her alternatives. By the end of this session she was cured. Melissa has long since passed away but I still have her letter of heartfelt gratitude among my treasured possessions, and I'll never forget the power which decluttering her complications had on her.
That sounds like a great way to approach how you feel, the feelings are a symptom of circumstances that you feel certain ways about. Your method of approach makes that clear and obvious.
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I am blown away by this. For the longest time I wanted to see a psychologist. And the irony is I ended up seeing one of Jordan speeches where he talked about owning and admiting and ultimately facing your fear. I faced mine and all my worry literally evaporated. I also learned that when you have peace around one particular thing you are worried about, you'll be sure fire to find something else to worry about :) For me it was money and retirement. Once I sorted that, I started to have the problem of "well, I need more for retirement" :) Since, I've learned to relax and know when I've won.
What’s the name of the speech?
Ongoing sleep deprivation can cause a variety of mental illnesses too.
I agree. Everytime I don't get enough sleep I'm grumpy and snappy and generally feel down and depressed
Amen to that, I have been struggling with that personally for decades, a true living nightmare, I pray I wake from it soon.
Good news is that there are very effective psychological treatments for sleep problems. Fixing sleep problems can often be a good way of preventing depression, mania, or psychosis.
I must be fucked to all hell then
Perimenopause and menopause symptoms too linked to lack of sleep.
“I’m not perfect, you’re not perfect, and this is perfect”. We need to accept each other without being arrogant
Psychology Channel Unless they're trans.
Haggy Waggy I was being ironic, you hateful pig.
I think we need to stay out of each other's way and enjoy being alone.
@Orchestrated Apocalypse You nailed it! LMAO
Okay...okay...joe Pesca us a little gee.
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He made a profound observation. Complexity can push most of us to a breaking point.
Absolutely 100% correct. Moved up the corporate ladder, we bought a new house, we had a son, both of my parents died, I wrecked a car and I lost a high-paying job - ALL IN 2.5 YEARS OF SO. At one point I woke up in the middle of the night and involuntarily jerked upright drenched in sweat and with tears flowing. I had had problems/issues in life before just like everybody else, but those listed here - on top of life's daily struggles - put me over the top. Unfortunately, it wasn't temporary - I inherited this illness from my mother. It took a hospitalization, therapy on and off for a few months and Prozac for a couple of years. It has never gone away 100% though. My mother-in-law had/has a worse case. I just hope it does not get passed down to my son.
YO where’s the part where he conjures the neon multi-colored fractal? Clickbait
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@@victorprassel5378 It was sarcasm. You just have a stroke dude? Or you got one of them Stephen-Hawking kinda talking/typing diddie machines and it just absolutely shit the fucking bed for ya and pressed every autocomplete after the word "man" LOL XD
Also Chosen: Conformed Frozen sounds like a Disney title. If I ever make a movie ill be sure to name it that and pop your username there in the credits :P
@@nagsterthegangster3548 😅😂 indeed alien script .
@@cosmic2096 I joke but I hope this person realizes their psychosis and at least perhaps looks up some of the symptoms and be knowledgeable of them.
That's why they say, "he has lost his mind". Not that his mind suddenly jumped out of his body and disappear into ether. His mind got so complex he simply lost control over it. I completely agree with Jordan Peterson.
that is a very interesting way to look at it
Not his mind, his life such that his mind could not cope.
I imagine that could be the case for some autistic ppl that can't filter the reality as they see it so the brain is overloaded with info. I guess that could make you nuts just in itself.
aniekan etim: and thus you fail to comprehend the reality. The "complex" is CONFLICT between state dogma and plain reality; and the reason for most mental illness, is cognitive dissonance over living in a "democracy"where the people don't consent to their government, thus creating a covert oligarchy that dictates narrowly-limited TOKEN choices, in the form of state-ultimatums on how the people can and can't change their government.
As Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said, "there are none more enslaved, than those who falsely think they're free."
But since Peterson is employed licensed and accredited by the state, he won't address that. Psychology is the SCIENCE of validating the state oligarchy by Gaslighting the individual. He is just a political puppet, who engages in Political Abuse of Psychiatry to validate its power, while maintaining the delusion of liberty and democracy under government-dictated ultimatums called "elections."
@@kenburns4547 I love the depth of your clarification. Thank you.
I was about to comment on my own share of misfortunes. But then I perused the comments and realize how really sad the world is for some people, how difficulties encountered in childhood can haunt us all the way into our adult lives, how terribly difficult it is to overcome, heal and comfort ourselves because everyone is busy trying to mask their pain or insecurities or too occupied with being an evil person. I pray you all get better, especially mentally and spiritually, to finally be free and make space for the wonderful opportunities of present moment.
Well said 🙏
Jordan Peterson is a beacon of light in a messed up world.
I have been diagnosed with social anxiety and depression. I think Jordan is spot on. I don't feel mentally ill. I am not deranged or histrionic bi polar. I just want things to be as simple as can be after 65 years of turmoil. I DON'T WANT to talk to people who pressure me to be what I am not. People let me down or pile emotional shit on me. I prefer my dog.
"I prefer my dog". Truer words have never been spoken.
Same with me but I'm 25...for me it was not the gradual buildup for yrs as it happens with many..but for me the reason was I had the happiest life in a normal middle class family and suddenly at 16 shit started happening..I had never faced any problem and has always excelled in studies..so I started losing control on everything I loved doing and most important one was my career and mom..it continued for yrs (relationship with mom became normal in few months) and when the problem ended it took time to hold myself up again...but for now I have done great progress...I have regained many things.. It's never gonna be the same but it'll be good....Life is worth trying...My mom always says that not everyone gets a chance to live (my dad died pretty young) so if u had gotten a life then live and that line kept me going for yrs bcz she herself has seen loads of shit (including death of dad,husband and 1st child at really young age) her whole life and even at 53 she always keeps making effort...she hasn't achieved anything big but still she has achieved a lot..I never undermine my issues but when I start feeling like it's getting tough I remember her journey and think she doesn't deserve to lose another family member..and that has worked for me
today's news " Turkmenistan’s President Gives His Favorite Dog a Golden Treat "
Have NIACIN, find your dose.
Well of course your not “histrionic” bipolar. You are anxious and depressed 🙄
Here is the problem with the label Mental Illness, way to many things come under those words, my son was 15 when i noticed he was developing fears of every thing, then he started talking out loud to people who were not there, he didn't do drugs, or alcohol, those where the first things that was tested when i finally got doctors to listen and admit him to hospital, it turned out to be Schizophrenia, and it has been a wild ride ever since, he is now 32, he had two older brothers with no such illness, they all grew up the same in the same house. The brain is very complex, i have been by his side to all his hospital stays and appointments with doctors, so it drives me nuts when people say go for a walk, oh you just need to be happy, or this and that i am sick of it all. No one talks about cancer like that and says oh i told you not to eat red meat, no they except it is an illness with a million reasons why it could have happened. I gave up caring why it happened, now i just support him every way i can.
I know how you must feel.
Most people (mentally "sane" ones) are convinced that a mental illness can easily be overcome with motivation and willingness to get better.
It's ridiculous.
And SO annoying.
Really hard not to reply to each one of them..
my daughter exactly
Keyes , I understand you, I am in the same situation with my son
Keyes M. Man I am so proud to see your actions. I just got dumped by my wife of 35 years because I'm carrying around anxiety for caring for my elderly parents 2 years back. Truly devastating. I wish she could have comforted me.
"I'm depressed"
"Well I cheered you up. Surely you can be happy now?"
The number of times I have heard that type of statements bout others still annoys me. I can't imagine what you've been through but I can sympathise.
I was depressed because I was overwhelmed I was overwhelmed because I was confused, I was confused because I had situations partly beyond my control that persisted, and toxic people partly influencing my perspective Time and distance changed my reality, revealing toxic and hindsight worked it out, and with the understanding the mental “illness” problems vanished
Professor Jordan Peterson has such complete understanding, empathy, sympathy, and kindness. I'm very impressed. That was a perfect way of putting everything. He truly has something special about him. I appreciate his teaching so much.
depression can be caused by too much complexity, but real mental illness is caused by malformation of the brain, as in certain social abilities are absent or below par.
that truth is too painful for most to acknowledge.
peterson is talking nonsense.
@JOY24O7 No he's not "talking nonsense". Sure there are some people with physical damage or chemical/hormonal imbalance, but I agree with him that the majority of what we call mental illness is due to exactly what he explained here. It's the dis-ease of these modern times.
@@deadreckoning6288 listen to what he says at 2:13 "biological weakness"
he admitted without realizing it that those people have a "weakness" in the first place.
The Chemical Imbalance construct was contrived by Gregory Bateson, husband to Margaret Mead - as a marketing tool. Jeffrey A. Schaler took this on with: "Show me the Chemical Balance Tests!" @@Stafus
"Spamming quotes under JP's youtube videos can get you tons of likes" ~ Confucius
I be confused too.
underrated
@@reglook1 "You are"-Hitler
@@vintagerock547 you are
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As a person that has had many "complex" things happen to him in a few years I can totally relate to this explanation.
Don't believe him, he's lying. The "complex" is CONFLICT between state dogma and plain reality; and the reason for most mental illness, is cognitive dissonance over living in a "democracy"where the people don't consent to their government, thus creating a covert oligarchy that dictates narrowly-limited TOKEN choices, in the form of state-ultimatums on how the people can and can't change their government.
As Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said, "there are none more enslaved, than those who falsely think they're free."
But since Peterson is employed licensed and accredited by the state, he won't address that. Psychology is the SCIENCE of validating the state oligarchy by Gaslighting the individual. He is just a political puppet, who engages in Political Abuse of Psychiatry to validate its power, while maintaining the delusion of liberty and democracy under government-dictated ultimatums called "elections."
Ken Burns HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Translation: ‘Down with the system, man! So we can like, setup...another system!’
While you might think I have nothing to say to you, because I laughed at you, you would be wrong! Thanks for the melodrama though!
Ken Burns because this is what you think about if you’re diagnosed with cancer? Hypothetically?
Ken Burns did you see his video he did on Trudeau? 🇨🇦 I do not believe he's a political puppet.
@@kenburns4547 that explanation comes from a mental illness in itself.
It's alarming that there are so few people amongst us with his level of intelligence and foresight.
My mother ran the family and always commanded us what to do, without question or ever asking what we feel about it. I ended up a happy person, but with a serious self esteem issue: never believed I can change things or understand how others depend on me, or that my feelings matter. I perceive life as "do what you are told to do, quickly and efficiently". Maybe it is not a bad life motto, however notice that there are no people in it, or no self drive. Sometimes I think, if only mother and father asked me how I feel and what my goals are, my self esteem would be x2 . But I am grateful to them, even after their mistakes. It's a pity rhat we spend from 20 to 40 years old, to resolve these issues.
Glad Dr.Jordan Peterson is back and recovered. Hopeful for his continues recovery.
he’s back??
@@benquidlat8396 he made podcast episode with his daughter
FahdQ what happened to him?
Uhm...What happened to him? 🤔
did he do 10 grams?
Two minutes and this man will teach you more than many people can in two generations
Real people / real friends can and will, grifters / a-holes also could, but won't.
Either way, Jordan's a treasure, obviously.
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Exaggeration. Settle down.
@@hipsonsogbo yeah! It was an "intentional" exaggeration spoken to make an obvious point! Obvious for most people....but lost on a "few"...geez
Wow. I never thought about things this way, but he has a very good point. Peoples' brains nowadays can become completely overloaded, especially with all the CRAP going on in the world. Personally, when I get to that point, I completely shut down, because I can't even see where/how to begin to dig myself out of my out of control situation, i.e., job I despised, both parents became ill, had to fly home, parents got better, flew back, then one parent DIED, had to fly back home again, and deal with death and a funeral, plus the other traumatized parent; then flew back again, quit my job, determined I was going to MOVE home, so spent months packing and all of the stuff that goes with that; packed everything up, drove 1,000 miles home by myself. So I know it's going to take me a loooong time to decompress and come to grips with everything that's been going on over the past 6 months. Sometimes I think that just sitting and staring at a wall for a few days is preferable over having to deal with life. But I literally just take one....step....at....a....time. Suicide is NEVER the answer.
Exactly. One step at a time. One day, one hour, one minute at a time if that's what it takes. Every step is a victory. ❤️
I can relate. But I'm not so sure being in control of one's ultimate fate is not an answer. Personally I reserve the right to be in control of my own life and I have no interest in extending that life if the suffering is too great or the quality of life is pointless. I've been on the edge for a long time now and I grow weary of it all.
I can totally relate to this, sometimes when a sequence of disaster events happen one after another in quick time, you feel like someone is chasing you towards depression and eventual death
Simplicity is best for me. My life became very complicated after years of living simply and I immediately went into a depression that lasted years where I just longed for a quiet and simple life again.
also ... it's as if no one is encouraged to live simply either. like no one is going to show you appreciation and support if you want to live simpler. It's just something you have to do for yourself .. or also to be by yourself.. no one typically supports you in that endeavour.. not that anyone should ..but it's something that requires some effort "out of " the conditioning .. like it's fine if my life is simpler.. etc
i like your observation. It feels like i have to drop some strain in order to get my life together and no one is supporting me with that. You only hear things like „okay, i dont understand but do whatever“ or sometimes „dont be such a p*ssy“ if i want to leave out a party.
Its my own responsibility to simplify my life i guess
Agree. And this so called modern and technological life is full of ever expanding complexity. It's no wonder the human species seems utterly psychotic at this point.
@MarcDufresneosorusrex Well said and I find this to be true 👍
“Perhaps it’s that some things are wrong FOR you, rather than that there is something wrong WITH you.”
One of the first things my psychotherapist ever said to me.
yes thats 100% true. allways look if the new things are good for you, otherwise strongly reconcider and leave it
If you're trying to be a fish out of water, life is intolerable - find water and the correct water; moving, stagnant, salt or fresh - many options - move.
keep in mind that the modern world is totally alien to what humanity has historically experienced. put a caveman in today's world and he would likely go insane.
That is a good way of looking at things.
true. depression is often just a symptom
I could remember several years ago I suffered from severe depression and mental disorder. I was addicted to illicit pills, alcohol, and smoking until I was recommended for psilocybin mushroom treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly I'm 8 years clean now. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against anxiety and depression.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in New Zealand. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I had the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on Instagram?
I've had anxiety since I was a child, sometimes genetics ducks you up. Sometimes life does.
People are like bridges .....they all have a load limit .
Build strong bridges from childhood onwards - not by abuse but by intelligent guidance on How to Deal, How to Choose a Path with ❤️
...sometimes you just better burn them.
Or an elevator
People are like buildings, they are fat
Yes, we all have a breaking point
If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world.
-C.S Lewis
Correct
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Or made for another time.
^I Just Wasn't Made For These Times^
The Beach Boys
Just listened to that and wondered how much psychology is often concentrated in lyrics.
@@martinried5450 A lot!!! Bob Marley: "free yourself from mental slavery."
@@deirdremorris9234 Good point ! Talking about reduction of complexity.
Only God can satisfy. Just saying.
“Not always, but almost always”. Well said. That’s a great insight and it’s very compassionate one. It’s not demeaning and insulting people as the medical profession often does, insinuating people are weak when really, it is that they have been assaulted in some way.
The philosopher Alaine de Baton has a CZcams video titled, “How the modern world makes us mentally ill.” It explains this phenomena also. Getting back to simple living, family, community and supporting not judging one another might help.
What a great and compassionate man.
forever jealous of those who had him as a professor
We've all got him in this way :)
Envious not Jealous. 👍
@@guilouaitisc3268 Good contribution! one point for you!
Don't be jealous. There are many great professors at many universities. Unlike Peterson, most of them contain their egos and do not behave as if they are anointed experts on topics far outside their realm of expertise.
@@zacharywoodruff5321 As far as I've seen he only ever delves very deeply into topics outside of his expertise when other people drag him into it. And even then he's pretty open about stating his theory and then acknowledging that he doesn't have all the information
As an older man I can attest to the fact that a complicated life is often fraught with stress; and often it's not the unforeseen hardships we face but embracing cultural cancers which make life less enjoyable. Living beyond our means is a huge stress factor; often crippling debt is linked to that behavior. I think many people go through a stage of accumulating stuff they don't need at the cost of running up debt and working excessively to maintain a "lifestyle". But it doesn't matter how nice a house you have if you're never there to enjoy it. In recent years I've started steering my life toward a simpler way of living, and it's made all the difference.
That's quite consistent with my observations. I'm 59 years old now and have seen many people do the same thing, working harder to accumulating a lot of stuff that will be sold cheap or given away when they downsize or die, and to what end? Similarly, I've seen many people rushing their kids around to endless planned activities, and similarly to what end? Hey, I live in the same complex world as everyone else, but that doesn't mean I have to get caught up in it all.
@@Abitibidoug Exactly! I just wish someone had clued me in decades ago to the fact that many "cultural norms" can be, and should be, recognized as unhealthy and even destructive.
I find joy in the simple things in life but could never just live a simple life. I'm just waaaaay too ambitious for that and can take on a shit load of work, and nothing makes me happier. The reason, why I'm kind of depressed these days, is that I haven't achieved valuable goals recently and are stuck in Limbo as a highly educated 35-year-old man who simply can't start at the bottom anymore and not at the top either.
I mean, to get feedback from interviewers saying that I'm overqualified is never fun to hear, yet it is the truth and I can't do anything about it. Also, the thing that bothers me the most, is that at this point in life I should have my OWN profitable business. Yet, based on my history, I don't have the experience in the right kind of fields to establish that business and it sucks because I basically have to start all over again if I truly want that.
Also, be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. I lived the simpler life once with great work/training/friend/family balance but I can never get that back.
Mike Revendale you probably would have dismissed that advice when you were younger. The wisdom comes with age!
Abitibi_Doug I couldn’t agree more. You don’t realize this when you’re young which is really a shame.
I just love the Lectures of Jordan Petersen a real Psycotherapist
This really touched a spot. Live a simple life. Beautiful video.
"yes we can"
-Bob the Builder
Obama sure did get his quotes from esteemed scholars such as Dr. Robert van Builder.
Salute
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When sorrows come, they come not as single spies but in battalions.
William Shakespeare
wow true
@K Gray I love Yogi Berra's quips! Another good one, "it's like deja vu all over again". 😄
@K Gray 👍
How true. How sweet it is.same.sad .sorrowful. I believe REDD FOXX AND GET THE DRY DRUNKS ANDYOU KNOW THE GREAT ONE FORGOT HIS NAME BRAIN DAMAGE...FLY YOU TOVTHE MOON...PRES.NIXON SHOWED HIM BODIES OF ET'S ...THE GREAT ONE JACKIE GLEASON
@Orchestrated Apocalypse
Do you have a goal here? He had withdrawal. He took them because of extreme anxiety, depression. He's better.
Ok, here is my take on this...
I am no PHD Doctorate, I am however a Masters student studying psychology (Child & Adolescent Mental Health) at Leeds Beckett University in the UK...
From personal experience I had a "few" of these catastrophes as follows:
1. My girlfriend of 7 years had an affair and decided to chance a new life with said individual.
2. A full blown family court custody battle ensued for full care of my son (2.5 years long)
3. I was passed on an STI by my unfaithful partner (which I got clear of with modern medicines)
4. My Car windows were smashed in, tyres slashed, windows on car egg/floured & my home vandalised several times (by ex's new partner & third parties)
5. The Ex's new love affair came to my home and attacked me by strangling me and threw punches. (we fought, he got 2 black eyes.. My amateur boxing days really paid off in being able to protect my son & myself).
6. I was left in debt the Ex had unpaid debts which were passed to me also so I had debt collectors on my tail too...
Now there is much more that I endured during this time which I wont put on here there are things I was accused of etc but I wont go into detail. My mental health suffered negatively as a result.. I was diagnosed with depression, anxiety & I had started to get panic attacks. The thought of losing my son made me very much question my existence to the point that I was ready to end it all should things not turn out the way I thought they ought to.
Now.. I had 2 choices I could curl up into a ball and turn to drink or drugs, give in, accept my fate or I could fight this thing and give it my ALL my very ALL. My absolute best and that's what I decided to do. I studied family law every night and learned all around the scenarios and how to deal with things so that I could be the most prepared version of myself. I was an hour early to every court hearing.
After the pre mentioned 2.5 years in family court I won full residency of my son and I've raised him to the best of my ability...
By this point I had been hammered from all angles the uncertainty of where my son would live killed a part of me, the betrayal killed a part of me.. I lost myself in the process. Once court was done I decided to focus on myself. To improve my health. I had no qualifications from school but after a years voluntary work within community based help centre for families I applied to University to study a degree in Teaching & Education. I studied for 3 years and put my heart and soul into it and I got a 2:1 (B of the Uni world). I then decided to see how far I could really take this thing after facing adversity so overwhelmingly intense that it brought out innate qualities that I assume anybody is capable of.
Now I'm studying my master's I am doing well so far as its my first semester. I never saw myself getting this far despite feeling I have nothing to prove anymore. I can look myself in the mirror now which is nice to be able to do to be honest. I believe that any work I do in this field once fully qualified 9 months from now will be of great importance and most importantly beneficial to the people I work with. I came from nothing and I now have an understanding surrounding the human psyche and what drives us and the implications of things we go through and how the all effect us uniquely as we are all different. No 2 handprints are the same and neither are 2 minds.
I agree with the complexity theory that Jordan Peterson speaks of. However the RESILIENCE of the individual is one of the main factors in how things play out. We all have ups and downs in life but I feel that I am now in a position after dealing with what I have that I will always be able to make the best decision forward and that's all its about. Building resiliency isn't always a choice but it can be done... sometimes life just happens. Many of this comes down the the nature nurture debate and inclusive of genetic predispositions exhibits that its not one or the other but rather a multitude of both.
Thank you for taking the time to read this if you did...
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What a profound observation!!
Huge respect for this man ♠️
I figured out when I was just a child that if I lowered my expectations of life to the fact that I simply have a pulse then nothing could ever disappoint me...30 some odd years later I was right...as long as I'm alive there's always opportunity for me...even in the smallest capacity...
Better than being bitter
Up to now l still practice not expecting from people and I'm never disappointed as less expectation l became very strong emotionally somebody does something I'm grateful and then u show the gratitude and people are always so surprised when they actually realize that u dont want anything they not prepared to give l have beautiful around me hysband and kids daughter in laws and the rest around so I give with no expectation and l receive so much happiness and trust but I'm also not a fool and a walkover just fine the balance those who understand will stay and some leave figured this out at a very young age
Our world has become exponentially more complex over the last two decades
Everything before 2001 was so much simpler.
GPL and everything before the 1900s was much less complicated. Life has and will always become more complicated but the problem is we don’t always build the healthy coping mechanisms at the same rate.
No, that’s just your subjective experience. Chaos fluctuates. Every generation seems to have a big event that has happened to them.
Yep
Subversion tactics
I had all sorts of stuff happen over many years and I kept trying to deal with it on my own.
I went to see a psychiatrist, I was beside myself and asked " Why won't this mental and physical pain go away?"
She said " You let this go on for too long and an internal switch has been flicked and now every part of every cell has major depression and can not be undone"
That sucked.
I lost my career job of decades. I couldn't accept the life altering change.... and the loss of my purpose, identity, structure, workplace atmosphere, coworkers, friends and driving my routes etc. Stress, into anxiety, into insomnia, into severe depression. It's been 6 months of horror so far!. Im suffering mentally and physically now... and with no hope or desires in sight... 🙏
Genius! It's about time we looked at root causes and circumstances, before calling someone mentally ill! Let's look at what drove them there!
That would take too much compassion and morality, somethings our society is bankrupt of these days.
Or a criminal. The world can force you to do things you ordinarily wouldn't do. Like be attacked, you fight back and you get arrested too for fighting. Then in city jail a predator decides you're easy. If you're not you bust him up or kill him. Now you're in the Pen for 15 to life. Because while walking down the sidewalk some one came up to you and started swinging.
I think we found the root causes to a lot of it in the 20th century and society attempted to directly combat them with laws, then the people revolted and tore down the systemic safeguards because there is nothing more addictive than being a victim.
I know this was two years ago but look into Jesse Lee Peterson. Another great Son of Peter (Peterson).
@@SuperEgo19 What now?
It's remarkable that people go to CZcamsrs for this kind of information when you have such a learned and distinguished Professor with all of his material online.
Im 47yrs old, lived a hugely varied life...and this 2.34sec video blew me away!
Living with a toxic narcissist will definitely bring on mental problems and it's all deliberate on their Part. They are evil
Narcissism is a mental illness though
But we attract certain people because of our own issues, too. So while yes that person has their own set of issues that creates a toxic environment, when we attract people like that we have to see where our weaknesses lie. Otherwise they wouldn't prey on us.
Most narcissists don't realize they are horrible people. Some even believe they are using their bullying and gaslighting techniques out of love.
So, yes, living with a narcissist will definitely bring in problems, but 'evil' implies informed intent and they don't always have that.
@@yamimayonnaise5378 can you blame a grade A narcissist for being a narcissist?
@@kylebrattan471 if they have a disorder then no. If they dont then they're just an asshole
"I'm not afraid of death,.... I just don't wanna be there when it happens."
George Burns
I'm going to live forever, or die trying!
@@NeilAFawcett I love that one!!!👍
@Guy Fredlund Yes this is true Woody Allen said it most recently(considering Woody is still with us)and a lot of people don't realize it was originally George Burns that Said it.
good catch.🤗
@William Burr The greatest way to live longer is to stop worrying about how long you're going to live.
No that was Woody Allen.
I am so grateful to you Mr Peterson for sharing your lectures. I hope you are feeling much better now and progressing well to full recovery. I too am a very compassionate person and don’t like to see anyone or anything suffer. It is such a relief to hear this video because it suggests to me that OCD is curable, is my understanding correct and if so how is it cured in the quickest possible way? Is it a service you offer? Has anyone else on here cured OCD please, and if so how (if you don’t mind sharing)?
Interesting perspective. I agree about the complexity problem. So what I did as a master problem solver is reduced the complexities, designated the responsibilities to different people, and simplified my existence. It helped a lot.
I often say just because I can’t adapt to a psychotic society doesn’t mean I’m the one with the problem! Too much crap and you have to take time to dig out and recoup from digging and pray you don’t dig the wrong way! Much love to all!
You re not the problem, but jerks just suck the whole energy out of you...
I totally hate my environment here on Earth.
30+ years and no matter where I go or what I do... the suffering just NEVER, EVER, EVER ENDS.
It's ludicrous. Like, seriously, when am I going to have some PEACE?
Never. Probably not even when I'm dead. SOMEone will F#@k that up for me. And if there is 'afterdeath', I'm beginning to think it may end up 'more of the same'.
No, thank you. ✨
No one star well you have one thing right, you are a star. You are a spark of the creator source energy. You are a beautiful soul that has chosen a challenging soul journey. I can relate... I too have experienced 30+ years of the craziest darkest stupid stuff ever. Guess what it’s all a play and we chose this for soul growth, eternity is forever this is how we learn and hence the main creator learns. The secret is you are a creator and by having hate you in turn pull in more hate energy. As crazy as it seems if you flip how you feel inside by focusing on anything good and what you’re grateful for and imagining all the good coming to you with appreciation you can change what you see outside. It’s a choice you can change how you view things or continue on the same path....don’t listen to others... listen to you and do what makes you happy ...be the love and happiness you want to see and it WILL come back to you. Much love and hugs!
@@gingerl2995 this world just makes me want to destroy everything and everyone. If the universe wants me to suffer, then everything will be forced to suffer
@Rick Eckler Pious people gave me sanity. They spoke with clear, honest solutions. They are the next best people to scientists. Emotions is the reason we cry. So get rid of that shit
This is such an accurate description of how mental breakdown occurs, so well put into words and so easy to understand, thanks so much.
Agree. I've never heard it explained this way before and it's true because I'm living it unfortunately.
Going through selection to the RAF and need to be able to explain a recent 'low mood'. This could not more emphatically hit the nail on the head and I'll use it to help formulate my explanation. Thank you JP (again) and uploader!!!
This is certainly true and as someone who treats mental illness I can tell you that true illness is vastly over diagnosed. True major depression, I’m talking slowed thinking, psychomotor retardation, profound hopelessness…it’s there, but very rare that it comes with no environmental loading and nowhere near as common as the number of times you see it casually placed on a chart. The more common depressions have become extinct, because insurance companies won’t pay for them.
Basically, it's fear based. When you're overwhelmed and things feel out of your control or more than you can manage.
All the more reason to put our trust and faith in Jesus, who tells us to lay our burdens down to Him, as there is NOTHING too big for Him to handle in our lives.
@@joshuawaddell6640 🤢 you believe in a ghost
@@crazeeycc2928 History books aside from the Bible tell me otherwise. Not to mention he's personally done things for me.
@@joshuawaddell6640 is just luck
@@crazeeycc2928 Sorry, but you don't know a single thing about me or what I've been through to tell me its luck.
Really interesting. I’ve suffered from depression since my first wife was diagnosed with brain cancer and died four months later.
So much happened in such a short space of time,I literally could not cope.
Sorry to hear that. His talk explains a lot though- sometimes we are pushed beyond our breaking poknt
Ironically something very similar happened to Peterson himself about two years after this video was made (his wife got cancer around 2018-9 and he got addicted to benzodiazepines in an attempt to control his anxiety).
So much happened in such a short space of time,I literally could not cope.
THIS.
Sorry for your loss...
I resonate. Honestly. 😓😓😓
The Universe is cruel & 'blind'. Some of us were ordained for WAAAAAAY too much suffering, but... there is no escape. It's just the way it is.
Others get to be happy, fulfilled, and have a BALANCED amount of success & suffering.
But not *certain* folks. 😓
As someone who has 'been there done that' I know that you are spot on with your thinking. A popular song when I was going through a suicidal depression was Roy Clark's "Right of Left at Oak Street" in which a man comes to an intersection he encounters every day on his way to work. In the song he has stopped at that intersection and asks himself if he should right like he always does and go to work, or should he turn left and keep going to escape it all. To me the left turn was a metaphore for suicide.
The 1:00 mark hits so hard for virtually EVERYONE right now. It's terrifying that he says this 4 years ago ( as I'm writing this) and this is what life has been for almost everyone since COVID-19 became a thing... Hang in there everyone, you're not alone.
yep $coVid$ came and disappeared. i guess it did not generate enough $mula$ for the $vaccine$ $cartel$
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“For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”
HL Mencken
And for every simple problem there is an answer that is obscure, complex and wrong.
The reason for most mental illness, is cognitive dissonance over living in a "democracy" but the people don't consent to their government, making it a covert oligarchy that dictates narrowly-limited TOKEN choices, in the form of state-ultimatums on how the people can and can't change their government.
Ken Burns schizophrenia? Bipolar 1? Axis I disorders? Any clinical experience?
@@kenburns4547 Do you really believe that all of people's suffering comes from faults in the system of government? Really?
Religious ideology and extreme moralizing cause mental health issues.
@@MM-dv9hp CAUSE OR SYMPTOM? explain and provide evidence.
Interesting seeing him say this years before he had his own set of catastrophes... wishing him all the best and hope to see you soo JP
Oh no, what happened to him? I am just learning about him and his views. Wow, praying for him.
The mind is a source of strength but is also fragile at the same time.
What catastrophes is he facing? I know it’s really none of my business but I’ve learned so much from listening to DR. Peterson and I wasn’t aware that something happened to him.
@@nikkistahr7105 if I recall correctly; his wife was diagnosed with a terminal illness and during all of it he became depressed and then addicted to the anti depressants and he's been battling that addiction for months
@@AikiYoda Oh my goodness, i am so sorry to hear that wow.
I lost my mom to cancer, i was 23 and the way it affected our family in such a way..it broke us all down. I am praying for this man and his entire family unit. I pray over his addiction, i pray for his clarity, his safety, guidance, and overall health. May God and time heal his heart and restore his peace.
thanks for the reply/ information.
Blessings to you
XoXo
Nikki
Clive Mechanic to clarify, he developed a dependency to anti anxiety drugs not antidepressants (benzodiazepines). They have some of the worst withdrawals of any drug class, can last months, can even kill you. A heroin addict will feel like they’re dying if they cold turkey quit but they won’t. A heavy benzo user can have seizures and die.
Mr. Peterson, real depth, and individual freedom comes from speaking to the individual, and you do so magnificently.
This reflection is total genius. The problem is more complexity than facing the problem. That totally makes sense.
I had my first mental brakedown when I was 11 year old, I am 64 now and still struggling, I found out I have Autism AD HD OCD, in my late 40s.
Breakdown*
Praying for you 🙏👍
@@sonjak8265 keep the bullshit for yourself
@@sonjak8265 True, those lables don't help anyone, least of all the labelled.
@@beztroska I recommend that you do some research on the history of the western medical model, doctor/patient relationships and the growth of the pharmaceuticals industry during the 20th century: there is a wealth of good quality information available. You will then be better informed and you will be able to differentiate between the very valid point that Sonja is making and the "excrementum bovis" to which you refer in your ignorance.
Nothing better than a free lecture about a subject you are interested in, with helpful information, a good teacher who delivers it well. Here when the internet feels like the best human invention.
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No matter what I do, take medication, psychologist, etc. I'm always with the feeling deep down that I shouldn't be alive. There's no reasoning for it, it's just in my DNA. Mental illness isn't always curable, you just learn to live to with that guts feeling.
Oh no you should be alive. Do some research into the immune system, it's a warzone in your body, knowing all the shit that goes on with your immune system helps put things in perspective a bit.
I mean, your body thinks you're worth fighting this much for.
The way Jesus dealt with mental health, He cast out demons.
Kodak said it best "if I learned from the situation than I don't call it a loss"
This is the plain truth right here. Some people have so much going on at once that it is only a matter of time before they break.
Many people make life complicated by lying. A different lie for different person or group of people. If they were only truthful that complexity would be immediately reduced.
David 135 self induced
Oftentimes truthfulness is punished in a society that expects us to lie
David 135 you are deluded if you think there is truth in this world. Facts are objective but truth is objective.
No. Lying simplifies things. Truth is almost never beneficial. Truth gives people power over you. And when you do that you are screwed in every way imaginable.
Parenting. Or lack of. Almost all of the damage is done by parenting.
I have friends with severe epilepsy, schizophrenia and manic bipolar. Their first and worst moments all intersect with very complex times in their lives. It's very difficult to be a friend sometimes
Abusive parents, siblings, bullying and racism at school, poor financial family condition and uncertainty about future caused my illness. I am not able to live not able to die i am just living for one beautiful dream that i have.
You have many creative and beautiful ideas inside you. 🌈 Stay attracted to them instead of letting life distract you away from them.🌟 College isn't necessary because you can learn everything online...says one of the richest men in the world! God bless you Sister! 💝
Good luck
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you aren't i'll. that's the point. calling yourself ill makes you the victim, and victims don't champion change. so you will forever be a victim of your 'illness'. take control of your life. learn the skills you need to supersede your 'genetic weak spot'
At least you have a dream ,, there is still hope 👍🏼
"People come to [psychologist] because their lives are so damn complicated they cannot stay on top of them in any way that doesn't make it look like they're just going to get more complicated."
It's amazing how he can explain all of mental illness in one succinct sentence!
@@skf2658 this may be true in some cases but, it’s a very simplistic view. Let’s be careful. True psychotic mental illnesses may be influenced by choices or the environment, but take a schizophrenic out of their “complex” world and put them in a simple one, they’re still schizophrenic. Maybe I’m not understanding?
@@maliciousmike8440 What you’re saying makes a lot of sense also. I’m just wondering if schizophrenics experience more chaos in their interior world than the average person which then turns into schizophrenia at its breaking point. I don’t know, it’s just a thought.
@@skf2658 I have an immediate family member who’s schizophrenic and, yes and, yes. Imagine if everyone else’s world was different than yours in ways that make no sense, and people are CONSTANTLY talking to you, some you see, some you don’t. You know some aren’t real, but can’t tell which. And in all the chaos you can’t even think.
That's true, last December I had a disgusting BPD mental crisis and the suffering was too much to bear, I couldnt sleep, was in constant paranoia and extreme mood swings every few hours, wanting to harm myself all the time and holding on as hard as i can to something so I won't do it..
I looked up on google psychologist in my area and the first one I found after 10 mins of reading his website, called him and as soon as he picked up I just said "I need help".
I agree. And the scary thing is, that many doctors don't think this way. That is scary.
Love and connection can heal much mental illness, trauma. God bless ❤️
So true, I thought I was depressed for 7 years. I went on medication, I took myself off cuz I felt like i was weak for taking medication. I developed dependency on weed and smoked all day every day. I’ve always had a goal but I had trouble connecting that goal into my complicated life. Remove complications and focus on your love for others, Find peace in existing. No one will always be happy but peace is always a choice
Well said
Peace be with you always🌿Beautiful honest post. I take the time to say Peace&Love as often as I can to others. I end phone calls that way. When approaching total strangers it's used as a greeting to assure acceptance. Try using this phrase to uplift others as well as yourself
@Youn6J * Excellent advice. Thank you. 👍☘️🙏
Broken childhood, poor parenting and bad environment. When I was depressed I feel rage, loneliness, fear, anger is driving me crazy. I thought depression is about being lonely boy I was wrong
how did u get rid of the depression?
@@tristazmista try a rebounder you can't feel sad jumping on a trampoline...
Praying for you IJN ❤️🙏✝️
I need prayer I'm going through a dark depression. I lost the will to live yet I keep on living. I am so tired! Jesus please help me
Use the anger to build yourself up. The old saying "use stones thrown at you to build your castle"..work it out in the gym get a hobby and put your passion there..when I was young I felt as you say, this is the best I know to deal with that time. This will pass. Hugs
I find this spectacularly interesting as a case of a genuinely genetic mental illness, but I don’t doubt his words.
My life was (and is) actually very good, I have two well socialised parents, a loving sibling, financial stability, adequate childhood attention, my intelligence was encouraged and able to flourish, etc.
I could go down the list but you get my point. The only “trauma” I experienced was a minor series of personal and social issues surrounding my sexuality and coming out (as gay). But that was resolved fairly quickly and I bounced back. I had no reason to collapse.
Then I began hearing things. Popping, static, at first. Randomly. It just startled me from nowhere, and I’d just ignore it. It would progress. I’d ask people “Can you hear that?” And I’d get frustrated that no one seemed to.
I didn’t realise I was actually hallucinating till it became an actual voice. Y’kno like when you’re wearing headphones, and it seems like some noise happened outside of your headphones, like someone calling your name, so you remove one headphone to listen around like, to confirm whatever you heard? But then you realise that no one actually called your name?
It was like that, most people experience it very occasionally and shrug it off, I experienced it daily. I’d swear I heard someone say something but I just couldn’t figure out what the words were.
Then the words became clear, and they weren’t pleasant at all. First singular words, then sentences, seemingly random, but then always of negative things “Faggot” was a common one (which I can reasonably understand, having unpleasant memories attached to that word).
I realised I really needed help when I almost killed myself and my sister driving, I literally heard a cut off scream right in my left hear, clear as day, and freaked out. Thankfully I’m a good, trained driver and didn’t injur myself or anyone, but after panicking and then realising there was genuinely nothing there I consciously realised I was hearing things.
As time went on, I started seeing things. (Which is actually rare, by the way. Only 10% of hallucinogenic schizophrenics see things as opposed to just hear them). But I’m one of the lucky few. Again, small at first, shadows out of the edge of my vision, id startle and turn and nothing would be there.
The first time I truly thought “I can’t do this” was when I saw a spider, a huge, fucking spider lunge at me in the middle of my bedroom writing an essay (I’m deathly afraid of spiders). I cannot fully articulate the feeling of both absolute abject terror, with absolute abject hoplessness. At least if there was a bloody spider there then there’s a thing I can point to that I can show people for why I’m acting this way, and at least I can confront it. But no, it just came from nowhere.
Spiders happen because I’m afraid of them, it was… hell. I mean it man, hell. Imagine the absolute most terrifying thing you can, your worst phobia personified as a physical being or entity, then imagine it literally jumping right at you from nowhere at random times with no warning.
That’s when I committed myself. My parents didn’t want to force me into any kind of facility (for loving reasons). But I’m quite an intelligent person and I knew myself well enough to know that if this progresses I cannot trust myself to keep myself and the people I love safe.
I got treated with medications, and they really helped. My hallucinations really calmed after being medicated.
Funnily enough the main therapy I had to do was to train out my fear/startle response. Which is REALLY freaking hard. Like imagine if a spider crawled across your hand *right now.* What’s your instinctual response? Recoil and flail your hand. I couldn’t react like that to *any* fearful or startling stimuli because 9/10 chances it wasn’t there. I had to train myself out of my natural bodily response.
Nowadays, I still see things. A clown is the most common thing (for some reason I have no clue. I’m not even afraid of the damn things but). It’s usually just sorta… there, in the background.
When I’m emotional or insecure, I see a girl. I can’t describe her features even though I know what she looks like (freaky right?) And she whispers in my ear whatever horrible intrusive thoughts happen to be on my mind that day.
Spiders still happen sometimes and it really, REALLY sucks. It’s the one that causes a startle fright response that I just can’t help but react to.
Like I can ignore the clown, I can ignore the girl, I can logically understand that they’re not real and focus on other things. But the spiders… ugh, they just suck.
My schizophrenia is due to a genuine illness. There was never anything in my environment that manifested into my disease, I just happened to get it. So, not to detract from Peterson’s points, genetic psychiatric conditions do genuinely exist, it’s just that they can also be caused by people’s environmental factors.
Even though I was cursed with my disease, I thank god (not really, fate?) every day that I didn’t get the paranoia along with the hallucinations. Those were bad enough, but I had enough of my rational self at hand to respond to therapies and treatments. I wasn’t delusional, I wasn’t believing things that weren’t true. I was seeing things that weren’t there. There is a very important difference there. You can think of it this way, there was nothing wrong with my CPU (brain). I was just being given a bunch of junk data (hallucinations) that I had to process. Others with delusional schizophrenia have problems with even being able to actually reason in any meaningful capacity and that’s what makes them so hard to treat. You can’t even root them in a basis of reality to *begin* the treatment process from to start with.
That’s why, despite everything, I’m lucky. I have schizophrenia but I retained by higher facilities. Many with my disease don’t, and it really sucks. And it mostly sucks because they are that way for absolutely no reason.
I totally love this clip Jordan. You are spot on. I have been one of those people where everything went wrong in succession, Job loss, Divorce, Bankruptcy then death 💀 and I must admit that it took all my strength to stay positive & Optimistic about a possible future! It helps I’m a sports Psychologist so it’s safe to say I have a good awareness of my own thought processes.
Just want to say thanks 🙏 for all you do in speaking out for Humanity, it has been a blessing over the last 3 years when most of the Country leaders succumbed to the dark side 🤪
Spot on 👍 I've experienced the same. Too much loss & trauma in a short span of time. Still trying to dig my way out.
"People's lives dont end when they die, it ends when they lose faith"
- Itachi
Then I died a long long time ago
@Foodie Pootie faith IS not REAL just like hope & belief ALLL not REAL recognise what’s REAL
Lmao kid
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Wow! That's the truth! I can remember in my early 20's telling my dr. that I felt like I was walking on a wire and just couldn't balance anymore. I also see it as juggling and somebody keeps adding more things to juggle. Sometimes it seemed like they were trying to add a chainsaw in to the juggling scene! That's when I gave in and drank and drugged. Then I realized I didn't want to go out like that so I got in rehab, and learned to "Keep it Simple!" It's not that simple anymore but it's sober!! : ))
I've also learned to not sweat the small stuff. Most importantly, I talk to God. . . a lot! (ok, prayer.) He really is a miracle worker!!
[not sweat the small stuff] What some combat veterans of WW2 in the Pacific noticed when they got home was people getting upset for trivial reasons.
I Agree with this information. I can say that I have consistently perceived the world in a way that perpetuated the consistent feeling of being "overwhelmed" by my own thoughts about all of the unstructured activities that had to be done. Procrastination gets its claws deep into me at times making it a personal journey that may at times permit an Intervention by a friend. With the overwhelming feelings it becomes difficult to distinguish the critical things from the not so critical items on the list.
Thus, I make things more "Complex" than they really have to be by overthinking. Slowing down and taking more focused and precise motions in order to not deplete the hard to sustain energy that I have from lack of being able to sleep properly. Getting good rest is key in this to recharge to capacity to have the cognitive integrity to be at best for the day.
It doesn't take the world fallen down on me to throw me for a loop so I am concerned with how I will process inevitable upcoming events that will alter the face of every day normal relations.
MY GOSH!!! I am tired and rambling right now. Lol!! GOOD NIGHT
It takes a great deal of knowledge and understanding to summarize what so many people can't even comprehend within 2 and a half minutes...
He needs to start an online university. I would join it.
If it's just the education, you already have many iterations of his two courses an essay writing guide and a list of great books to read. There is no accreditation at the end, but you can learn quite a lot with what is already out there.
@@petardraganov3716 Since I have watched a lot of his materials already, I feel like a certification could be useful ....😄
Just be careful though as these are kot really lectures but more like lunch room chats. Proper lectures would cite source materials / studies, explain points points counterpoints and support you in researching your own analysis of the topics being discussed. This is JP outlining what he believes to be the case, rather than how he might present a truly 'academic' lecture.
If he taught a class online I would take it.
Its so hard not to shit on dumb hoes.