The curious controversial case of shouting in between the game

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  • čas přidán 29. 12. 2022
  • This happened in the 17th round of World Blitz Championships 2022. With the white pieces we have GM Adly Ahmed (2605) and with the black pieces we have FM Nikolay Averin (2231). Adly's flag had fallen (time was up) but he was not happy with what had happened. He called the arbiter about what had affected him. Three players had stood behind his opponent and shouted when he had very few seconds, is what Adly claims. And that's the reason why he lost on time. He wanted his issue to be addressed. The ball was now in arbiters court. Have a look at the video to see what they decided.
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  • @user-Kanwar4Prez
    @user-Kanwar4Prez Před rokem +895

    that guy calculated the whole book of moves when arbiters were busy in concluding decision.

  • @gamingforever7336
    @gamingforever7336 Před rokem +1116

    The Fact that the norwegian reporter is holding the mic to everyone that's speaking is Beyond hilarious 🤣

    • @kunalsingh4418
      @kunalsingh4418 Před rokem +83

      He was having the most fun in all of this. That gleeful smile, hilarious !

    • @Longtack55
      @Longtack55 Před rokem +9

      Very professional

    • @rhylpancakesph
      @rhylpancakesph Před rokem +6

      I think he forgot to turn on the mic...

    • @pilot8720
      @pilot8720 Před rokem +29

      @@rhylpancakesph That's for Norway Media, not for Chessbase India, you will have to find it from NRK.

    • @SpontaneityJD
      @SpontaneityJD Před rokem +2

      This was the best part😂

  • @markd.7129
    @markd.7129 Před rokem +969

    Once I was in the park and got the chance to play Magnus. By move six I was down two pieces and three pawns. Just then a car horn sounded across the street. It was very distracting. Luckily these same arbitrators were nearby and decided to make a ruling. They discussed this for 25 minutes allowing me to study the board completely. When play resumed, I got checkmated on the very next move.

    • @naknessss4902
      @naknessss4902 Před rokem +13

      😂😂

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 Před rokem +48

      👌 I believe your story more than the adult in this game lol

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +34

      @@craigslist6988 Cringe the kid literally admitted that Adly is correct your comment makes 0 sense

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 Před rokem +20

      @@williamrobert9898 oh, what did he admit?
      you gonna call me 'frend' while I crush you in this argument?
      The kid keeps arguing from different hypothetical scenarios. He claims a) the yell was not distracting because I) it wasn't a yell, ii) the friend was too far away that even if he yelled it wouldn't be distracting, b) that even if it was a distracting yell no professional chess player focused on making their move and clocking in under 2sec (assuming that isn't also a lie) would be distracted like that. Everyone knows you wouldn't be, you would make your move and clock by muscle memory alone at that speed.
      While he wasn't articulate because he's a kid and speaking a second language these are the arguments any reasonable arbiter should have understood he was making. These arbiters are really making terrible decisions.
      And the adult player should be ashamed, forfeit that draw, and apologize to set a good example of mature play to the kids. No wonder the kid's friend tried to pull similar BS a few days ago, with adult players setting this example and arbiters so clueless they're being taught that this BS is how the game is played.
      And I don't think kids are innocent and sweet, but just like if a kid attacks you, the correct, mature response is not to attack them back. It is to use your power to control the situation and punish the kid while teaching the reasons for punishment and what good behavior is.

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +22

      @Craigs List 💀 the troll really said "yOu'Re gOnNa caLL mE fRiEnD aFtEr i cRuSh yOu iN tHiS aRgUmEnT" just to end up agreeing with my point and proving me right immediately by accident LMAO
      *wasted*

  • @ManhattanProject9
    @ManhattanProject9 Před rokem +283

    A: 01:10 The child literally admits that the friend "screamed" something but disputes the distance from which he said it. ("he was very far and he screamed" and proceeds to shrug)
    B: 02:30 While the arbiters are deliberating the child opens the dialogue and insinuates to the GM that had the GM not been in time trouble, the GM would not have made an issue about the shout. "if you had time you would not seen that he screamed" (sic)
    03:30 The child again admits that while his friend screamed "he was very far".
    C: 05:50 The arbiter disagrees with the child that his friend was "very far", saying "1 meter is not far". The arbiter also alleges that this is not the first time this has happened in this very tournament after disputing the child's assertion that his friend was very far. Finally, the arbiter claims he was present throughout the situation: "I was here, it was the last game so I was not somewhere else".
    D: 11:00 When the child tells his friend that the arbiter gave the GM "five seconds"(*not* accurate) the friend's initial response is not to dispute the veracity of the penalty but instead to shift the focus that the position was still clearly winning for the child "after h4" (I don't speak Russian--I'm basing this on the Russian translation from commenter below).
    It's only after the child ignores the friend's claim does the friend deny anything was even said. Paradoxically, the child later goes on to say his friend was "over there and silent the whole time" contradicting his concession to the GM and arbiter only minutes earlier.
    E: The "friend", FM Artem Uskov, is prominently featured in another video of ChessBase India from a few days ago. In that video he can be heard saying "it's impossible" (03:30 of THAT video --- czcams.com/video/H7uWsNdrxTc/video.html). This strongly contradicts the notion originally put forth from the child that his friend "doesn't even speak English" so could not possible scream "it's time." The child accuses the GM of lying by putting forth the notion that the friend could not have said something in English.

    • @danielninio7383
      @danielninio7383 Před rokem +30

      Excellent analysis

    • @icystrangers5482
      @icystrangers5482 Před rokem +30

      A. It is not his native tongue. He is trying to say that the GM is exaggerating by calling whatever sound he heard a scream.
      C. I don't wholly believe the arbiter. He may have observed the friends close by at some point, but not necessarily during the incident.
      E. Again, English is not his native tongue. I believe that he is only trying to say that his friend's English is not good enough to shout "it's time". Also, why would an excited Russian child scream in English?

    • @mqtaidmqtaid
      @mqtaidmqtaid Před rokem +20

      E: I didn't know that if a non-English speaking person knows how to say "it's time" and "it's impossible", that person is automatically bilingual...
      I think I'm polyglot

    • @Khedran
      @Khedran Před rokem +11

      This kid is shady and so is the guy lol

    • @shandagirl8084
      @shandagirl8084 Před rokem +4

      All those people around and only GM Ahmed heard the scream (aside from his opponent - who said it the scream was from far away), yet no one else to corroborate??

  • @iharshbrown6689
    @iharshbrown6689 Před rokem +422

    TLDW adult accuses kid's friend of screaming about time which costed him the game while kid argues that the friend was far. Arbiter decided that the kid was wrong and gave adult 2s extra. Game ended with a draw

    • @ronaldcredo2689
      @ronaldcredo2689 Před rokem +39

      Alright, this comment summarised the whole video.

    • @Fletcher2007
      @Fletcher2007 Před rokem +9

      @@aminemorphy prove it.

    • @Raii_Chu
      @Raii_Chu Před rokem +36

      @@Fletcher2007 The arbiter made the call, homie.

    • @Screen-Peeks
      @Screen-Peeks Před rokem

      Wow bs

    • @Fletcher2007
      @Fletcher2007 Před rokem +23

      @@Raii_Chu Pfft... The arbitrator can do whatever he wants.) Let's wait for the video from independent reporters and hear all the same what kind of "scream" scared him.

  • @delboy9234
    @delboy9234 Před rokem +533

    I think it'd have been much better to take the 2 players away to a quieter area to discuss this, away from the board, away from the people, and away from the cameras if possible. I know some arbiters in the UK who do this. The minute or two walking to somewhere else gives the players a chance to calm themselves as well if needed.

    • @fedora296
      @fedora296 Před rokem +19

      I disagree with that. right there and then was the perfect time. The younger Grand Master proved hi poised and better judgement. Than the crying adult. when you lose you lose period. and if one is trying to win over a table of judges rather than your own knowledge about the game. are you worth it of even being a player?

    • @jotarokujo5132
      @jotarokujo5132 Před rokem

      @@fedora296 he wasn't crying, he had a legitimate complaint. you can't have a disturbance during the game, dummy.

    • @martinbern4761
      @martinbern4761 Před rokem +2

      they need drama so NO

    • @Eric-mp4ft
      @Eric-mp4ft Před rokem +4

      Wouldn’t that be fair, let say the young player was on “fire and winning the game!” And the older guy knew he was getting beaten by a younger player and was annoyed by that so played the “harassed” card to collect himself!!!

    • @cordobes
      @cordobes Před rokem +3

      @@Eric-mp4ft are you okay? That sounds like projection. The game was disrupted by spectators making noise, the arbiters intervened - as the arbiter said, he was watching the table, so no need to call him.

  • @Rybr2
    @Rybr2 Před rokem +167

    11:02 Ttranslated this conversation on Russian:
    Averin: He said like some of you two speaked too loudly, but in fact it wasn't.
    1st kid: We did not say anything! Wait, Kolya! Why is it draw?!
    Averin: They gave him 5 seconds more.
    1st kid: So what? There is h4 move and it's completely winning!
    2nd kid: Kolya, tell me he dropped the flag?
    Averin: Yes.
    1st kid: It's a nonsense!
    Averin: And i didn't get why we replayed this move.
    1st kid: We didn't say anything! Didn't say a word!
    Averin: Well, it's appeal.
    2nd kid: He is an adult so they belived him because of it. We are allegedly kids. Understand?
    Averin: You were so far and you were silent!
    2nd kid: Yeah! Artem just did like this and nothing more. So what? You even didn't watch it.
    Averin: Exactly!
    2nd kid: This is so nonsense!

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +82

      Typical conversation between guilty kids after messing up and being busted lol

    • @ManhattanProject9
      @ManhattanProject9 Před rokem +39

      The kid actually said “they gave him 5 seconds more”?
      So he even is lying to his friends?

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +9

      @@ManhattanProject9 Exactly

    • @sjetejmaniak6595
      @sjetejmaniak6595 Před rokem +62

      @@ManhattanProject9 they gave him 2 sec and 12 minutes to calculate...after these 12 minutes doesnt really matter if you give him 5 sec or 1 sec

    • @watonemillion
      @watonemillion Před rokem

      Vranyo. completely normal with these people

  • @danielb4560
    @danielb4560 Před rokem +47

    10:11 they ended up with more spectators than a Magnus/HIkaru game

  • @TheRMMFilms
    @TheRMMFilms Před rokem +184

    the boy might have distracted him but Ahmed took the opportunity to study the position during the break and use that info to get a draw and thats equally wrong. he should not have been studying the board while the arbiters deliberated.

    • @raymondflagstaff2919
      @raymondflagstaff2919 Před rokem +1

      bingo

    • @zacharyklein9520
      @zacharyklein9520 Před rokem +36

      What do you want him to do? Anyone this good can picture the board in their head including his opponent and analyze it anyway. It's just part of the nature of the situation.

    • @arroe621
      @arroe621 Před rokem +24

      The kid could also calculate the position at the same time. It's fair.

    • @TheRMMFilms
      @TheRMMFilms Před rokem +16

      @@zacharyklein9520 there is a huge difference between passively and casually thinking about the position in the down time and visibly leaning over the board in a clearly very deep think. The kid was not thinking about the position he was focused on the reason the arbiters were there in the first place. Ahmed should have been doing the same.

    • @TheRMMFilms
      @TheRMMFilms Před rokem +8

      @@arroe621 but the kid was not. The kid was focused on the reason the arbiters were there and not visibly leaning over the board in a very deep think. I guarantee put any top GM in that same position they would not be in a deep think like that. It’s not fair to anyone.

  • @pierinavi
    @pierinavi Před rokem +102

    “My friend he dont speak English. He can’t say “it’s time,” even if he wanted to.”
    Brilliant.

    • @nothinglike1586
      @nothinglike1586 Před rokem +20

      Thereby admitting that, a) someone interfered with the game, and b) it was his friend.

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 Před rokem +4

      @@nothinglike1586 and also showing the kid isn't of the mindset of lying or tricking anyone because he's a sore loser, unlike another player at that table.

    • @tonyvelasquez6776
      @tonyvelasquez6776 Před rokem

      @nothinglike1586 how are you going to defend this horrible, disgusting excuse of an Egyptian? Do you partake in intercourse with goats and camels too?

    • @ManhattanProject9
      @ManhattanProject9 Před rokem +5

      @@nothinglike1586 Not to mention, the kid DOES in fact speak English, and this was proven in another video by ChessBase India.

    • @Frosmad
      @Frosmad Před rokem

      Not brilliant, he is a lying russian.

  • @gamingstylejutsu9468
    @gamingstylejutsu9468 Před rokem +462

    Damn that kid’s confidence is 100x of mine

    • @jotarokujo5132
      @jotarokujo5132 Před rokem +70

      @@pantx0 that's not balls. he is just spoiled.

    • @Grandpasimpson102
      @Grandpasimpson102 Před rokem +97

      @@jotarokujo5132 spoiled how? Kid advocated for himself quite professionally and calmly. Grown up was trying to be condescending later on, which is hilarious as he was getting beat by the kid in the first place. The only way it wound up a draw was because the adult was analyzing position while the arbiters conferred. In short, kid was winning, adult complained about a kid a table away making a noise and was rewarded with 15 minutes to analyze and swindle a draw against a 12 year old 400 elo below him.

    • @habitroaster2253
      @habitroaster2253 Před rokem +21

      @@Grandpasimpson102 oh you clearly do not understand anything

    • @habitroaster2253
      @habitroaster2253 Před rokem +11

      @@Grandpasimpson102 and ofc if someone shouts to distract it's illegal

    • @habitroaster2253
      @habitroaster2253 Před rokem +2

      @@Grandpasimpson102 plus the kid is rated 400 points lower

  • @countstoneula
    @countstoneula Před rokem +92

    5:47 Adly after hearing the decision immediately focuses on the board again and spends the next four and a half minutes deciding the exact end of the match. When play commenced he wasn't blitzing, he was playing out calculated moves he had already defined in his head. I definitely don't know all the rules of a chess tournament, but Adly made sure everyone treated Nikolay like a child and it sure felt like a cheap win to me.

    • @zaphodbeeblerock
      @zaphodbeeblerock Před rokem +16

      It finished in a draw ...

    • @Suiiiiiiiiiiiiiii1
      @Suiiiiiiiiiiiiiii1 Před rokem +6

      That smart of him

    • @MrGino714
      @MrGino714 Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@Suiiiiiiiiiiiiiii1 no. Thta's palying below the belt, I have zero respect for Adly Ahmed.

    • @user-im2ni5ek3n
      @user-im2ni5ek3n Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@MrGino714why ??

    • @MrGino714
      @MrGino714 Před 8 měsíci

      I happen to have played him once in my life and he is a bully. @@user-im2ni5ek3n

  • @hellostranger2012
    @hellostranger2012 Před rokem +27

    You get 0.5 point but you lose respect

    • @superman2000
      @superman2000 Před 3 měsíci

      You are wrong. He got 1 point not. 5 earlier he lost on time.
      Second, the small guy also learnt a lesson to respect the tournament hall and not a backyard summer games

    • @hellostranger2012
      @hellostranger2012 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@superman2000 just so you know that kid was certainly not at fault, if there are background noises its organiser, arbiters responsibility to check. that old hag just exploited a kid!

    • @uuuummm9
      @uuuummm9 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@superman2000 the only lesson he got is that if you can blame someone do it and maybe you will get additional points.

    • @Zeus.thunder
      @Zeus.thunder Před 18 dny

      @@hellostranger2012 the kid and his friends have been nuisances all throughout the tournament, his friend also created some, which is documented in a video

    • @hellostranger2012
      @hellostranger2012 Před 18 dny

      @@Zeus.thunder ya right you were recording it

  • @ziko317
    @ziko317 Před rokem +388

    So many cameras around, surprised FIDE doesn't have VAR support. I mean, there's been so many incidents related to stupid cases that it just boggles me why arbiters don't review videos on sight if anyone has it recorded.
    Norwegian reporter is just gold. The way he smuggles himself in there in the middle of the game to interview the players is just too much. lul
    But really, the kid is not responsible for anyone's actions but his own. In a room of 200 people there was a scream and the Egypt guy lost concentration on time and started pointing fingers? If the guy was awarded 2 seconds, the kid should've also had 2 seconds awarded on the clock.

    • @brunospasta
      @brunospasta Před rokem +28

      Exactly what I am thinking everytime something like this happens. Just record every single game and maybe a few cameras for the whole venue. Then you can rewind the footage and make your case without standing there and listening to two persons arguing as your only evidence.

    • @SpontaneityJD
      @SpontaneityJD Před rokem +39

      He was just mad he lost against a lower rated kid. He took advantage of the situation - I call bs.

    • @ilax3071
      @ilax3071 Před rokem +27

      @@SpontaneityJD you call bs because the cute kid didnt get his way thats why lol. You dont care if he was right or not

    • @kosiak10851
      @kosiak10851 Před rokem +2

      It is a chess game, not a space probe launch. We can not afford to waste money on television equipment that might help us maybe 1 time out of 10000

    • @gustavorabino9353
      @gustavorabino9353 Před rokem +3

      You could record only audio on the table at the start of the game. This could be a feature inside the clocks, this way you can solve many issues from shouts to insults, mind games, etc.

  • @sarthakyerane5255
    @sarthakyerane5255 Před rokem +23

    love these controversies , thats the best content for me :)

  • @rocroc
    @rocroc Před rokem +38

    Kid got screwed. I hope the older guy feels good about himself. He spent 20 minutes studying the chess board knowing he would get relief. The kid WILL be back.

    • @MrGino714
      @MrGino714 Před 11 měsíci

      exactly - Adly Ahmed wins by tricks, not by being teh best on teh chessboard. Useless pretentious obnoxious rascal.

  • @batmanthegreatencoder
    @batmanthegreatencoder Před rokem +330

    Let's say there was shouting, but he shouldn't be allowed on the chessboard untill the case is resolved! That was literally giving him so much time to analyze the board.

    • @piyushsindwani8963
      @piyushsindwani8963 Před rokem +109

      chess players have the board in mind. Now what you want to stop their mind as well?

    • @mayavi93
      @mayavi93 Před rokem +39

      do you know they don't need the chess board, you have limits to what you can do. Can't make the players to not think about the position. It was not the adult's fault here. The kid's friend should have stayed calm.

    • @Ligatmarping
      @Ligatmarping Před rokem +33

      @@piyushsindwani8963 that's true for longer time controls, but in blitz Im sure that having the board is some help.

    • @tatbaz1
      @tatbaz1 Před rokem +15

      Der . He was staring straight at the board

    • @ralphdenver8174
      @ralphdenver8174 Před rokem +24

      If the kid had accepted the arbiters ruling, the man wouldn't have had time to analyze. He just took advantage of the boy throwing a fit. Not ideal, but it's hard to criticize him.

  • @Ramtinss
    @Ramtinss Před rokem +351

    On the live stream I saw another GM arguing with this kid in this tournament, I don't know what the context of that was, but the GM was pretty mad at the kid.

    • @bobbyc2768
      @bobbyc2768 Před rokem

      he moved his rook to a different square on someone in the same tournament. little shit

    • @cordobes
      @cordobes Před rokem +102

      The exact same thing happened. It's the reason why the arbiters were watching his table and ruled against him.

    • @peterbachtiar4185
      @peterbachtiar4185 Před rokem +8

      No, it's not Averin

    • @ihavenoname6724
      @ihavenoname6724 Před rokem +54

      It wasn't the same kid, we can see the one you're referring to stand behind the table on the right-hand side at circa 11:00.

    • @NFKRZ_RO
      @NFKRZ_RO Před rokem

      Old man with white hairs and half sweater right?

  • @ZelosPhotizo
    @ZelosPhotizo Před rokem +45

    Time for the boxing portion!

  • @telegraphave6932
    @telegraphave6932 Před rokem +17

    Translation of what the kids were discussing at 11:05:
    Kid in black shirt (Uskov): I didn't say anything at all
    Uskov: Wait, why is this a draw, Kolya?
    Averin: *unintelligible*
    Uskov: So what then, *unintelligible*
    Uskov: What a nonsense
    Averin: I don't understand too. I don't understand why they (arbiters) made that decision
    Uskov: We didn't say anything. We didn't say a single word
    Other kid in blue vest (don't recognize him): Bro, he's an adult, they believe him more. We're just kids to them
    Averin: You all were standing far and were silent
    Other kid: Artem only did this (raises his head) and so what, you didn't even look at him. What a nonsense

  • @leally
    @leally Před rokem +191

    FIDE looks so unprofessional at this event. They don't have solid systems or rules in place for when oddities happen, and handle it the same way your elementary school chess club would.

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +7

      that is why they are called oddities bozo lol

    • @peterbachtiar4185
      @peterbachtiar4185 Před rokem +2

      There were three complain in these tournament

    • @Liface
      @Liface Před rokem +1

      Clearly you have never run a professional sports events before. I have and it's EXTEMELY difficult to handle all the contingencies that come up.

  • @McLarenMercedes17
    @McLarenMercedes17 Před rokem +115

    The other kid said to his friend in Russian: "We even didn't say a word. They believed him because he's an adult"

    • @mohammedfarissi5737
      @mohammedfarissi5737 Před rokem +43

      lol arbiter checked microfone and cameras and saw kids screamed then they add time for the adult player lol lol

    • @The3rdTower
      @The3rdTower Před rokem +43

      Judge Judy said, “When do teenagers lie?”
      Answer, “All the time.”

    • @McLarenMercedes17
      @McLarenMercedes17 Před rokem +22

      @@mohammedfarissi5737 wrong, they are not checking anything on this video at least

    • @tamasve6345
      @tamasve6345 Před rokem +13

      little russian troublemakers

    • @radscorpion8
      @radscorpion8 Před rokem

      @@The3rdTower LOL

  • @jomertomale
    @jomertomale Před rokem +21

    This whole event is such a mess to be honest

  • @cr4zyj4m1e87
    @cr4zyj4m1e87 Před rokem +47

    Pure cheating. No GM in a time scramble with 2 seconds left, at a major tournament would look up and stop playing, regardless of what was shouted or what noises were being made.

    • @McLarenMercedes17
      @McLarenMercedes17 Před rokem +13

      yeah, it's like "oh I have 2 seconds, let's see what other people around me are doing"

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 Před rokem +3

      Yeah, having friends distract the opposition is pure cheating and quite unsportsmanlike behaviour. And so is touching pieces AFTER you hit your clock (during opponent’s move) as the kid does here too.

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 Před rokem +2

      @@kencur9690 lol cope more

    • @kencur9690
      @kencur9690 Před rokem +1

      @@craigslist6988 lol cope with what? Perhaps you’re coping with the fact that you sent this on New Year’s? Lol how sad!

    • @ivs721
      @ivs721 Před rokem +2

      @@kencur9690 Sez U

  • @cheya111
    @cheya111 Před rokem +190

    The whole thing is ridiculous. Look how Ahmed start calculating at 5:37 while the kid is talking to the arbiters. He literally solved the position before the game restarted. That is unfair. :)

    • @skitzcunt4213
      @skitzcunt4213 Před rokem +36

      were they supposed to put a table cloth over the board? many professional players can still see the board in their head even tho they arent looking at it... so what then?

    • @mayavi93
      @mayavi93 Před rokem +36

      Nah it was the kid's fault, he called the arbiter to talk to. The kid is clearly lieing here. Remember the other kid incident, there the adult was rude, here Ahmed was so kind and polite. Ahmed could have calculated even without the chess board. There was nothing unfair here. the Kid could have done the same, instead he wasted time.

    • @raymondflagstaff2919
      @raymondflagstaff2919 Před rokem

      @@mayavi93 dum kid let it happen, dum adults too

    • @krishnaprabhakar526
      @krishnaprabhakar526 Před rokem +10

      Even the kid could have sat and calculated. My personal experience is that these kids are so overdriven by ego that they can cross all limits

    • @aristotels_aristotals
      @aristotels_aristotals Před rokem +13

      Thinking is not illegal.

  • @WeeD_Slayer
    @WeeD_Slayer Před rokem +364

    Can't wait to see Hikaru reacting to this on his stream 🤣

    • @spirituelleOOinfo
      @spirituelleOOinfo Před rokem +27

      this littel kid has now messed up his whole chess career, because even in years people will remember him beeing the one who used unfair tricks with help of hie friends - like hans nieman..

    • @staygoldpwnyboy923
      @staygoldpwnyboy923 Před rokem +10

      @@spirituelleOOinfo What unfair tricks did Hans Neiman use?

    • @Thesamurai1999
      @Thesamurai1999 Před rokem +15

      @@staygoldpwnyboy923 engines

    • @cringeginge7663
      @cringeginge7663 Před rokem +34

      @@staygoldpwnyboy923the beads man

    • @Trumpbasher
      @Trumpbasher Před rokem +14

      @@spirituelleOOinfo okay when Ahmed accuses him to do so, its already the verdict??? Goodby democracy and rule of law. 🤣

  • @SaiKiran-km8fn
    @SaiKiran-km8fn Před rokem +109

    If Hikaru sees this incident , his expressions would be gold 🤣🤣

  • @ArizonaMMJ
    @ArizonaMMJ Před rokem +280

    Not fair to let that older guy who is salty he just lost to a kid sit there and calculate the entire time.

    • @rft1509
      @rft1509 Před rokem

      Calculate what? It's a draw
      Stfu

    • @ArizonaMMJ
      @ArizonaMMJ Před rokem +1

      @@rft1509 no. It wasn’t. He lost and because the kid was a kid he used his age difference to convince them to let him replay it and add 2 seconds allowing him to calculate the draw. YOU stfu

    • @scarecrow2313
      @scarecrow2313 Před rokem +14

      In this kind of situations it doesn't matter if you let them sit next to the board or not because they have a position in their head

    • @monteraid
      @monteraid Před rokem +36

      Their ages have nothing to do with anything it’s about laws and orders.

    • @starkiller1394
      @starkiller1394 Před rokem +22

      the boy wasted his time, with arguing with the referees, his fault

  • @craigslist6988
    @craigslist6988 Před rokem +9

    you know when someone says "muy frend" while they argue with you they're super scummy

  • @monkeybanana3769
    @monkeybanana3769 Před rokem +19

    Adult gaslighting a kid about how he’s gonna win from a scream when he’s the one making an excuse for him losing to a kid 😂😂😂

  • @gilligan735
    @gilligan735 Před rokem +7

    The constant unchanging smile of lady behind russian invigilator is epic! 🤣🤣

  • @alpacino4857
    @alpacino4857 Před rokem +8

    the person who first invented chess must be smiling from above, to see chess progression until today as a world event.

    • @AsitdyaDsr
      @AsitdyaDsr Před měsícem

      I,e in 6th century CE during Guta empire in India . It wa called “chaturanga” then evolved into Sjataranj and to modern chess. You’re welcome.

  • @user-sk5qo7qm2u
    @user-sk5qo7qm2u Před rokem +4

    No way the other guy was allowed to calculate while they were making the decision, he basically pre moved after

  • @cysinkaaewoods55
    @cysinkaaewoods55 Před rokem +138

    Last time the other kid in the back played an illegal move then tried to cheat after they had to play the moves again And when the arbiters were trying to settle everything they had shush a kid who was interfering, not sure if it was this kid but not surprised here that the kid’s friends also caused trouble
    Edit: This was the kid that the Arbiter had to shush

    • @blizzen
      @blizzen Před rokem +13

      can you use more descriptive terms than kid, i don't know who is being referenced lmao. you described from what I can tell as 5 different people as ' a kid'

    • @cysinkaaewoods55
      @cysinkaaewoods55 Před rokem +13

      @@blizzen My bad I don't know any of their names, here is the link to the videoczcams.com/video/H7uWsNdrxTc/video.html

    • @wynwilliams911
      @wynwilliams911 Před rokem +5

      @@cysinkaaewoods55 Yep i noticed him straight away as well :)

    • @cysinkaaewoods55
      @cysinkaaewoods55 Před rokem +5

      @@blizzen Also, I'm referring to the kid that was playing in this game, he got shushed by the Arbiter

    • @SomeRandomWordsHere_MrMr
      @SomeRandomWordsHere_MrMr Před rokem +5

      Is that really what happened? Because I watched it and yes he put his rook on the wrong square. He had definitely lost anyway as his time was nearly 0. Then guy calls arbiter who reset its and say go after I press clock. Opponent presses clock and starts so boy complains then arbiter says we go again and I will press clock as instructed. He did and boy loses. You are reading a lot into this.

  • @ragsreachrich
    @ragsreachrich Před rokem +84

    The arbiters certainly mishandled this one. If Adly was distracted (if he indeed was), it was not the boy Averin who caused it. And it was a pity because as a boy, Averin was not given a fair treatment.

    • @percy9228
      @percy9228 Před rokem +10

      fair point, but why did Averin say his friend was at a (further) distance when the arbiter, who says he witnessed his friends within a metre behind Averin.
      The arbiter also claims this isn't the first time his friends have been shadowing so close to Averin and also states that he himself (the arbiter) heard the group, this alone would show if the arbiter would notice the (unusual) commotion then Adly who was closer to the voice and under high pressure and stress would get distracted.
      Since Averin in the eyes of the arbiter isn't being totally truthful then he's already lost (due to his own wrongdoing in not being truthful) credibility on everything else he says and has shown a clear motif to tell a narrative to suit his own goal. The arbiter might have been swayed by your argument in that it wasn't Averin's fault but the fact that he wasn't being truthful the arbiter could have thought Averin needs to address his friends behaviour so this doesn't happen again in the future and deemed it fair that Adly be given a chance to carry on.
      One thing that strikes me strange is the fact while Averin was delaying carrying on, Adly was laser focused on the board as though nothing would be able to distract him, I honestly starting to feel Averin was right, that if Adly was so absorbed in the match then no matter the distraction he would be able to block out the rest of the environment.
      This behaviour was shown after the arbiter made the decision so it can't be reversed.
      I do feel sorry for Averin but I'm sure he's learnt something from this

    • @mrfoodskater
      @mrfoodskater Před rokem

      @@percy9228 brain dead, he wasn’t in the weong

    • @gerritdeheij
      @gerritdeheij Před 9 měsíci

      ahmed adli is known as a bad loser an troublemaker

    • @fluchterschoen
      @fluchterschoen Před 5 měsíci

      Your comment seems fair Percy, and so does the original comment, as you too acknowledged. Averin certainly needs to have words with his 'friends'. And really, whether the person/s who made noise were known to Averin or not shouldn't be relevant to the discussion between the players and the arbiter. What puzzles me is that the arbiter even needs to get both sides of the story - surely the arbiter (and many others) saw first hand what happened.
      Chess is (or ought to be) one of the most civilized competitions in existence. The rules are defined in exhaustive, crystal clear terms such that there should be an indisputable resolution to any issues that arise.
      There are rules (and etiquette) for spectators: and it seems this was certainly breached.
      recommences
      @@percy9228

  • @MikoDarkblade
    @MikoDarkblade Před rokem +7

    Can't we see what happened?!?! Where was the cameras?!?!

  • @gos4343
    @gos4343 Před rokem +22

    He sat over the board clearly studying the position intently while the younger player was being spoken to and clearly disturbed by the experience. No one around the table seemed to take this into account which I find astounding. Poor from GM and organisers alike.

    • @krp2856
      @krp2856 Před 8 měsíci

      Well he was the one arguing, that doesn't mean the GM has to hear them

    • @gos4343
      @gos4343 Před 8 měsíci

      Not sure what you mean.@@krp2856

  • @chrismofer
    @chrismofer Před rokem +5

    Weird situation. Isn't it on the chess player to push their button before time is up, regardless of what's going on across the room?

  • @flyingcod14
    @flyingcod14 Před rokem +14

    Those camera crews they love a bit of drama!

  • @briananderson8733
    @briananderson8733 Před rokem +4

    It appeared to me that they gave both players 4 seconds on the restart. BUT the flag went up on the older guy the kid still had more than that.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 Před rokem +1

      They returned the clock to where it was at the start of the move: 2 seconds for white and 6 seconds for black. There was an increment, so after white moved almost instantly, he had 4 seconds. Black had been talking to the arbiters instead of planning his moves, so had to think a little, so came down to 4 seconds. That's why it was 4 seconds each after that move.

  • @dkant4511
    @dkant4511 Před rokem +40

    God this is so dramatic. This needs to be in a movie 🎥🍿

    • @xerodeus2337
      @xerodeus2337 Před rokem +2

      watch "The Queen's Gambit" if you haven't yet!

  • @Op1asPharaoh
    @Op1asPharaoh Před rokem +1

    The hand that was on top of the chessboard was such a psychological bullying. If all only that happened to a super GM...

  • @scuffedmarshmello9334
    @scuffedmarshmello9334 Před rokem +167

    This is the most insane ruling I have seen in awhile. First off how is he allowed to do this analyze the board for several minutes while the arbiters explain the decision to the boy? If he was allowed 2 seconds that is fine, but they basically gave him close to 4 seconds because he gets to take back his move and play it as soon as the clock starts? Like how is that in any world acceptable?

    • @slip9637
      @slip9637 Před rokem +36

      on top of that the 3 judges are all distracting the boy for literally at least 4 minutes whilst he is directly, face down, staring at the pieces of the board. Kid doesnt look at it once. inexcusable.

    • @accident_prone
      @accident_prone Před rokem +31

      The fact that he keeps looking at the position during the break is very unsportsmanlike

    • @cdunne1620
      @cdunne1620 Před rokem +8

      @@accident_prone
      ..the objection itself is unsportsmanlike, a third party has been allowed to influence the game

    • @kaviramyead7987
      @kaviramyead7987 Před rokem +4

      @@cdunne1620 How's that the kid fault ? And they took 5 min to take a decision and allowed one single player to calculate during that time while discussing with the other. What i see is a miserable failure at handling live events, just do computer then or provide noise cancelling headphones. What a ridiculous drama.

    • @user-sb4mw5gj9w
      @user-sb4mw5gj9w Před rokem

      Adli Ahmed is a pathetic liar

  • @Samousis
    @Samousis Před rokem +99

    This kid is in every arbiter call video I see from this tournament. Someone teach him sportmanship and manners not only chess

    • @ilyaeremeev2573
      @ilyaeremeev2573 Před rokem +19

      I ll better teach you to keep your fingers away from the keyboard, so the shit amount in our world doesn't grow

    • @MultiCockrider
      @MultiCockrider Před rokem +5

      @@ilyaeremeev2573🤪 Try harder.

    • @ilyaeremeev2573
      @ilyaeremeev2573 Před rokem

      @@MultiCockrider try harder what, can you be more precise or do you always write and speak as noone would pay attention to you words

    • @artineogda
      @artineogda Před rokem +11

      It's Russian, don't expect anything

    • @ilyaeremeev2573
      @ilyaeremeev2573 Před rokem +4

      @@artineogda your world vision is very much underdeveloped. Better spent less time at home alone.

  • @teamfontyn
    @teamfontyn Před 5 měsíci +3

    You can see he was studying the board the whole time while the kid was being interviewed.

  • @blankblank7101
    @blankblank7101 Před měsícem +2

    Child’s friends were deliberately sabotaging. I’m glad the arbiters didn’t side with him just because he’s a kid. Some of these chess kids grow up thinking they’re the second coming because they can play a board game well.

  • @zbenne05
    @zbenne05 Před rokem +3

    5:53 the emphasis behind the kids "No!" will no doubt send absolute shockwaves across the entire chess community

  • @VARMOT123
    @VARMOT123 Před rokem +63

    Norwegian reporter at that moment holding the Mike is hilarious

  • @LuisFernando-yd3mx
    @LuisFernando-yd3mx Před rokem +19

    If there is a distraction that affects the game either player needs to know how to stop the clock at that very moment and call over a technical director or arbiter to discuss the issues and make a decision. But I agree with the arbiters, if there is a distraction the player making a move needs to be brought back to the same point where he would be prior to the distraction. Two seconds is fair.

    • @myhrebu8224
      @myhrebu8224 Před rokem +4

      He had already made his move. He was just late to the clock

    • @johnnemeth2653
      @johnnemeth2653 Před rokem +5

      @@myhrebu8224 That's why he had to replay the exact move. The point was to actually give him a chance to press his clock, instead of allowing unprofessional players (or in this case spectators) to ruin a game.

    • @richardmust6919
      @richardmust6919 Před rokem

      You forget one thing, you're gay.

    • @LuisFernando-yd3mx
      @LuisFernando-yd3mx Před rokem +1

      @@richardmust6919 you must be the kid spectator who was screaming and causing distractions.

    • @richardmust6919
      @richardmust6919 Před rokem

      @@LuisFernando-yd3mx I don't speak gay. I couldn't scream your language if I wanted to.

  • @user-lb4hu1fq5l
    @user-lb4hu1fq5l Před rokem +72

    similar thing happened with me when playing kids - in non fide chess tournament (local ganesh festival tournament). in the middle of the game, my opponent was a kid and one of his friend comes and speaks in his ear (about the best move) - right in front of me. nobody bothered because these people have the mentality that "bacho ko fun karne do". should we allow fun through cheating?

    • @vasudevsharma7550
      @vasudevsharma7550 Před rokem

      This kid should be banned due to rude behaviour. Doing wrong(cheating) and claiming a win. This russian child is unbelievable.

    • @judesvidler168
      @judesvidler168 Před rokem +1

      should we allow putin to attack ukraine? we all. adults here.

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 Před rokem

      that's obviously different.

    • @koff41
      @koff41 Před rokem

      @@judesvidler168 Ukrainian nazis have bombed Bakhmut since 2140 and killed about 12-14 000, how man kids.
      Should we allow it.
      Soon Ukraine will be overrun totally.

    • @rocroc
      @rocroc Před rokem

      That's not the same at all. Nothing occurred until after play ended.

  • @aikawa_404
    @aikawa_404 Před rokem +4

    this GM lost all my respect, for calculating moves when the kid couldn't

    • @Grimey-P
      @Grimey-P Před rokem

      No one said the kid couldn’t. Plus, chess masters don’t need the board to think about time.
      Officials handled it poorly by not being firm. They made the correct decision though. The kid admits that his friend shouted. That is a distraction that can absolutely give an advantage with such limited time left.

  • @kevinchung8183
    @kevinchung8183 Před rokem +3

    the question is: you should focus on your game, if you were affected and lost on time, thats it, part of game. Then we come back to the question, why are you looking around when you almost ran out of time

  • @ZomBMarketing
    @ZomBMarketing Před rokem +6

    I find screaming at my opponents to be a very effective strategy.

  • @alexalkhatib
    @alexalkhatib Před rokem +4

    When Adly was the age of this young kid he was beating Carlsen and Nakamura.

  • @kennethwoods6525
    @kennethwoods6525 Před rokem +6

    Norwegian reporter Hans Solbakken from NRK is on the scene!

  • @Chance-ry1hq
    @Chance-ry1hq Před rokem +9

    The arbiters are making a statement, “we will not allow a players friends disrupt a game”. Case closed .
    With that said they should not have allowed the complainant to sit there and calculate while they were making their decision.

  • @nirosan7402
    @nirosan7402 Před rokem +56

    you want to win on chess board or to scream on chess board made my day hahahahhahahahahah

    • @Ymro
      @Ymro Před rokem

      Please show the end of the game on video or the game itself! Why don't the organizers show?! But we must trust one person or another when there is a video of the party itself, and we ourselves will draw a conclusion, and we will not guess.

  • @aaronb7949
    @aaronb7949 Před rokem +2

    Whether the kids friend shouted or not, they are playing in a public space with dozens of other matches going on, people being interviewed, filmed, photographed, people talking etc it's no excuse, he should have been focussed on his game and acted professional instead he was easily distracted and lost to time.

  • @Johnny_RB
    @Johnny_RB Před rokem +2

    The officials should not have let the guy with the microphone do what he did, which only made things worse.

  • @jurgisvit
    @jurgisvit Před rokem +4

    Some intense action there! I'm not sure what's more complex - chess or this crazy rule game besides the game. All the cameras, interviews. I see some reality show potential here.

  • @Sswervyy
    @Sswervyy Před 2 měsíci +3

    dude, you looked away got distracted like a dog seeing a squirrel, that's completely your fault 100%.

    • @mrcrumb4302
      @mrcrumb4302 Před měsícem

      It’s really not though. It’s a proper chess competition and most people seem to respect that. Being a child and having your child friends scream during an important match (or any match) is infantile and has no please in competitive chess. It’s a matter of having some mutual respect.

  • @C4_Anon
    @C4_Anon Před 3 měsíci

    Really nice to see they give the younger ones a voice.

  • @jph4852
    @jph4852 Před rokem

    Can someone translate what the kids were discussing after the match?

  • @ricardoalves3475
    @ricardoalves3475 Před rokem +4

    He is a minor. His coach or some adult responsible for him should have been called there to help him in this situation. And what if the other player got distracted by some kid. There are always things happening that can distract people while they are playing.

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +1

      Nope I played in many tournaments and I can confidently say that this is not an excuse for you to distract a chess player on purpose

  • @michaelgraflmusic
    @michaelgraflmusic Před rokem +39

    Man, for a couple of days I've been trying to figure out who that one arbiter reminded me of, and it suddenly dawned on me: Yanis Varoufakis with a bit of grown out hair! I'm at peace now.

  • @Superman-kv2wb
    @Superman-kv2wb Před 16 dny +1

    The boy try to be oversmart, he is 2200 and he act like he didn't recognised the last move !!! Are u joking

  • @bernardsaavedra675
    @bernardsaavedra675 Před rokem

    Onlookers will never learn NOT to get involve in a game they are watching. It happens all the time everywhere

  • @ffggfhhghj1766
    @ffggfhhghj1766 Před rokem +11

    Unfair. He said he made his move with 2 seconds on the clock. He then said he went to press the timer and had a quick look around after hearing a shout and the time expired. I’m not having that. There’s no way the shout (if it was even distracting) caused a 2 second delay to pressing the time button.

  • @zippo_muk9254
    @zippo_muk9254 Před rokem +10

    *I’m not an active chess viewer, but this seems like absolute BS ruling and he was allowed to study the position for minutes.* Especially if it was true that his friend doesn’t speak English.

    • @PrometheanRising
      @PrometheanRising Před rokem

      His friend that wasn't supposed to exist?

    • @Tempires
      @Tempires Před rokem

      You realize Averin is lying ? friend does speak english in other game where he cheats and Averin is making noise there. Arbiter saw situation and knows these kids have already made trouble during this event

  • @passionatechessplayer8219

    I am not around much people who wear business suits I find it interesting seeing kids in Business suits cause usually adults wear it it looks peculiar to me also fun fact after this match they became friends lol xD

  • @Rybr2
    @Rybr2 Před rokem +3

    Shame on Ahmed. He embarrasse whole Egypt because of slighting the kid in losing position.

  • @RigMaster_
    @RigMaster_ Před rokem +12

    I think the main point that they should have stated is that it is irrelevant where exactly the person who yelled out was, the point is they are in the immediate vicinity and shouted (it's also irrelevant what they shouted). This is highly likely to distract any players because it is unexpected.

    • @Ymro
      @Ymro Před rokem

      Nobody is going to control the arbiters. But the channel "Chess Base India" shows us
      "The curious controversial case of shouting in between the game".
      I want to see the situation itself - why is it announced - but it is not shown? This video is - why not show it? Then correctly name -
      "Assessment of the arbitrators of such and such a situation."
      In this I see the incorrectness of the channel - to have the main information and not show it.

    • @Striker-xx5cu
      @Striker-xx5cu Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@Ymrostart your own channel then

  • @Ymro
    @Ymro Před rokem +2

    Please show the end of the game on video or the game itself! Why don't the organizers show?! But we must trust one person or another when there is a video of the party itself, and we ourselves will draw a conclusion, and we will not guess.

  • @fingerfeller
    @fingerfeller Před rokem

    easy fix for this kind of situations is no spectators on the floor, very large floor space between other tables,, im not sure if a GM requisite is to be able to handle distractions or not, god forbid someone blowing an airhorn at a tennis match or golf match when driving or serving ?

  • @originaljazzkatt
    @originaljazzkatt Před rokem +9

    If a game is going on you, your friends, and anyone around the game keeps their mouths shut, period!

    • @Cynis001
      @Cynis001 Před 3 měsíci

      You heard how loud the entire venue was? It is not a quiet place once the first games end.

  • @Baldrick187
    @Baldrick187 Před rokem +5

    FIDE looks like local school tournament sometimes.

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 Před rokem

    the drama just does not end

  • @vincentholly
    @vincentholly Před rokem +12

    Adly known for being a bad person with bad sportsmanship. Not surprised he lost then tried to find an excuse and put it on the kid. What a shameful "man"

    • @Thexaxisacademy2023
      @Thexaxisacademy2023 Před rokem

      Why xdo you say that?

    • @Tempires
      @Tempires Před rokem

      both kids were already making trouble previously. other kid who scremed cheated in his game making them replay situation 3 times and Averin here was distracting in that game too and arbiter had to hushed him way. arbiter pointed that out too

  • @sebastionlucas7477
    @sebastionlucas7477 Před rokem +28

    You could see he's eyes being drawled to the board when he wasn't engaged in talk, and the smug smile on he's face tells it all

  • @azure8490
    @azure8490 Před rokem +79

    I think it's fair. The boy's friends did disturb him at the last second he made his move, so they decided to redo the game. One thing I don't like is the guy in blue has a terrible personality. He didn't even give chance for the boy to speak, always cuts in between when he talks. Also, feels kinda bad for the boy, if it weren't for his friends cheering, he might've won.

    • @rtos
      @rtos Před rokem +11

      He seems a bit entitled since he's much better rated than the kid. However the kid's friends did make a mistake cheering prematurely before the game was concluded.

    • @rakshitkapoor9279
      @rakshitkapoor9279 Před rokem +12

      which guy in blue? literally the whole room is in blue

    • @bitcoindaddy1
      @bitcoindaddy1 Před rokem

      This is not a soccer match. 🤡

    • @emregeylani
      @emregeylani Před rokem +7

      yes but child was lying as well. says he is not friends with those but walked directly towards them after the gameç.

    • @tatbaz1
      @tatbaz1 Před rokem

      Animorphy the arbiters took the old guys side so that makes a mockery of your argument . He actually was pretty obnoxious too

  • @isaachimself
    @isaachimself Před rokem

    I love these videos, they’re like scenes of the office

  • @random9-548
    @random9-548 Před rokem +1

    I was told "if you want to claim something, stop the clock and clarify the situation" but if you flag, it doesnt matter what happened, you lost on time. Apparently not here...

  • @cloud9847
    @cloud9847 Před rokem +17

    and I thought flopping in soccer was embarrassing.
    "his friend distracted me while I was about to lose on time" is not the card I'd be playing.

    • @koranews_ar
      @koranews_ar Před rokem +5

      so you're not a professional chess player :)

  • @ChessHistorian
    @ChessHistorian Před rokem +7

    I bet Magnus or Fabiano or Danya would handle this better than FIDE themselves. Only masters know what it means to be in this situation against other masters.

  • @mrbeanchess1439
    @mrbeanchess1439 Před rokem +35

    Where is Anish? He missed all fun here

  • @mahdikh1822
    @mahdikh1822 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The kid's friend is the one who only had one second in a match and made a scene for moving the piece and clock with two hands in another video. These kids are full of ego.

  • @travismontagner3141
    @travismontagner3141 Před rokem +1

    Wasn’t that the kid who also found controversy in an earlier match? Think he used a different hand to hit the clock, along with a couple other discrepancies

  • @SergeyLazutin
    @SergeyLazutin Před rokem +10

    It's ridiculous. When you leave yourself with one second you can lose on time for many reasons. Obviously it's not great to have the background noise, but it will be a complete chaos if such excuses are used to restart the clock...

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 Před rokem +1

      exactly. Punish the kid who made the noise, or prevent them from happening but you cannot seriously think it's okay to set a precedent that claiming to be distracted by a noise is grounds for reset lol
      they think it's annoying now, wait until every person who runs low on time has someone yell so they can contest it and spend ten minutes thinking. Brilliant.

    • @mircast0
      @mircast0 Před rokem

      He has 2 seconds left, which is quite a lot in this case. 1 seconds to move, 1 second to press the clock. Arguing for 1 sec is a bit exaggerated, but for two it's fair

  • @lighttravel3242
    @lighttravel3242 Před rokem +2

    It looks like some older players have a problem to loose against a child.

    • @dark_winter8238
      @dark_winter8238 Před rokem

      These specific kids caused several issues at this tournament. There is a video of the kid that distracted trying cheat on a game earlier when he ran out of time.

  • @bartholomewlyons
    @bartholomewlyons Před rokem +1

    This kid gets bullied by adults and he will become stronger from this experience

  • @fractal_mind562
    @fractal_mind562 Před rokem +31

    So he not only got time back he also got a chance to stare at the position for 3 minutes ? Seems legit.

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +1

      position was a straight forward draw anyways so chill

    • @Trumpbasher
      @Trumpbasher Před rokem +1

      @@williamrobert9898 how do you know ? Grandmaster already?

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem

      @Trumpbasher Nah Candidate Master but it's a straight forward draw like I said, the position isn't complicated and there are next to no chances of swindling

    • @Trumpbasher
      @Trumpbasher Před rokem +4

      @@williamrobert9898 Ah ok , Carlsen clone, therefore Ahmed took only 3 minutes of starring on the board to secure the draw, when its inevitable draw???

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 Před rokem +2

      @Trumpbasher Yup, have you ever played in any OTB tournaments? I can already tell that you didn't because that's we do sherlock, we stare at the board and calculate to the best of our ability, the reason why the kid wanted to claim the win and not continue is because he also knew that the position was a complete dead draw

  • @cyberbro7545
    @cyberbro7545 Před rokem +28

    Every chess player fight with the kid🤣

    • @easy94883
      @easy94883 Před rokem +1

      He should be embarrassed, grown adult acting younger than the kid he's playing

    • @v4vun
      @v4vun Před rokem +6

      @@easy94883 You didn't understand the comment, this kid has been fighting with a lot of players all over the tournament

    • @sebastianodena5587
      @sebastianodena5587 Před rokem

      Maybe this kid is the problem😮

    • @jamalurban5298
      @jamalurban5298 Před rokem

      @@v4vun in this situation , that wasn’t his fault .
      It was one of his little friends who probably screamed about the time
      😂

  • @greatpretender83
    @greatpretender83 Před rokem +2

    Appeal young man. It's not the kid's problem he is innocent.

  • @i2su405
    @i2su405 Před rokem +1

    the kid shouldn't get a voice here, if the GM says it happened you shut it, not argue. The nerve

  • @dejanvasic7460
    @dejanvasic7460 Před rokem +3

    The arbiters made an unacceptable decision. Complete fools. They allowed themselves to be fooled by the acting and pretending of the absurdly vain and unfairly Mr. Ahmed.
    My opinion is that a player cannot be sanctioned for any wrong doings of his friends. The only thing you can do is to remove the influencing spectators around the table.

    • @hypercubemaster2729
      @hypercubemaster2729 Před rokem

      Your opinion is wrong. Maybe watch the trouble they caused against Kovalev. It's easy to call out a player disputing their rights to a game where money and prizes are on the line when you have no stake in it. Like you would do any different if money and reputation was on the line.

    • @dejanvasic7460
      @dejanvasic7460 Před rokem

      @@hypercubemaster2729 The arbiters aren't such underpaid to miss the opportunity for a securing a decent conditions for a play (including a spectators shouting). It is not an impossible task to monitor the tables where the problem could be possible and could happen.
      Did Mr. Ahmed already heard about Kovalev issues before the start of this round?

  • @brunospasta
    @brunospasta Před rokem +45

    The young kid should have asked him: "You want to win over the chessboard or by arbiters support?"

    • @cysinkaaewoods55
      @cysinkaaewoods55 Před rokem +13

      Well he would just reply to tell his friends to behave, especially after one of them got in trouble for playing an illegal move, lost on time, and when they had to play the position again,
      tried to cheat by playing with two hands to not lose on time. What’s even funnier, is that this kid got shushed by the Arbiter during that
      Situation

    • @melzz
      @melzz Před rokem +11

      It's a rule to not make any noise, it doesn't matter adult or kid

    • @izzymarz6788
      @izzymarz6788 Před rokem +4

      The kid was in the wrong

  • @PerezKique
    @PerezKique Před rokem +1

    The way i see it, this is supposed to be a game with professionals. If you allow yourself to be distracted because someone makes noise, that on you. He lost and it should have been called in favor of the young man.

  • @jenniturtleburger3708
    @jenniturtleburger3708 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I’d be pissed to if some fool screamed when I was down to a couple seconds.

  • @floridacoder
    @floridacoder Před rokem +11

    My interest in playing over the board tournaments is in a constant decline because of things like this. Not as much drama with online chess.

    • @danielaltmann1308
      @danielaltmann1308 Před 5 měsíci +1

      play over the board tournaments, this rarely happens.

    • @davidjames149
      @davidjames149 Před 4 měsíci

      i'm assuming since you wrote this comment that you have been on the internet in the last 2 years. there's WAY more online drama than OTB drama in the chess world

  • @makeitrainepoker6355
    @makeitrainepoker6355 Před rokem +19

    Dude knew he was lost and us looking for excuses to not lose to a kid...

    • @theguardian308
      @theguardian308 Před rokem +1

      Did you watch the game? You have no idea

    • @superqazaq3449
      @superqazaq3449 Před rokem

      Yes , this dude is Egypt as well as head Arbiter bro

    • @samuellandos785
      @samuellandos785 Před rokem

      @@superqazaq3449 he’s head arbiter ? Really? If so then that’s really shameful of him