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I don't think I've ever seen an arbitrator reset a clock once, without having to come back and set it again.
They had only one job, one job only
@@JoseGonzalez-cc8oj Well, the arbiter did the right thing in stopping the clock because Caruana made an illegal move. What else should he have done?
@@Tulanir1 the joke is that they their only job is to reset the clock and they can't even do that without messing up
without lifting Set the clock and make it swift mr. Arbiter😂
It's a very complicated process.
You would think Chess is for those intelligent people. Then they come up with this stupid rule that if your opponent makes an illegal move and you miss it and play something else without reporting it, you might lose :D
You should look up the Carlsen - Inarkiev thing. It’s a bit of a wild ride. Inarkiev ended up having a dispute with the chief arbiter who sided with Carlsen and told them to just continue the game and Inarkiev decided to not continue the game (forfeit) and later in an appeal the game was again given to Carlsen. Perhaps the brains are TOO big and create way too complicated scenarios. Luckily now first illegal move is just a time penalty.
Stupid rule?? No because if opponent makes illegal move it's fool and if you miss it and play something else it's very fool
Worse, the guy who originally played the illegal move has the audacity to call out Magnus for his illegal move. What a loser.
You can be fine with your opponent making an illegal move. Don't call out like 1. ke4. Just win instead. That's not against the rules of chess.
@@bintanghalomoan8851 agreed, yet your illegal move is caused by opponent’s illegal move so still, it originates with your opponent’s fault so imho it should still be a fault of one who makes mistake first
To be fair, fabi didn't hit it on purpose, he fumbled with the queens and it got hit by accident.
Darn shitty way to lose a game..
Exactly. I thought so too and playing it slow confirmed my suspicion. In my opinion Caruana should have gotten away with it. Maybe time for a video referee?
What happened
I don’t understand
@@devonappuhamy5735 Caruana promoted his pawn. While he was taking a queen to replace the pawn he pressed the clock. But a move that includes promotion is not finished until the pawn has been replaced by the piece of the player's choice. Caruana pressed the clock before that had happened. That was strictly speaking illegal. However, I think it was not Caruana's intention to press the clock at that time and therefore I would have let him get away with it.
💯
i like how magnus doesn't argue when he makes a mistake
He might've made a mistake but his opponent did something illegal that made him lose. His composure is unprecedented, unlike alireza who made a whole giant scene when he lost on time against magnus, who is much better anyways.
Magnus won this match, everything was resolved, the refree gave the victory to magnus .
@@timvanloo6 how did he act like a baby? he left the board, that's what you're supposed to do smh
@@timvanloo6 tf you talking bout he just left the board and that was 12 years ago lol
@@chessmasters9012 he stormed off without so much as a handshake.
It's no big deal, we all know Magnus doesn't like losing. It's fun seeing him get tilted 'cos he's mad at himself for not seeing something.
Minerva: Why any time illegal move happens you two are always nearby?
Magnus and Hikaru: 🗿🗿
They get videod the most.
I'm not a big fan of Hikaru but you got to salute his sportsmanship. On multiple occasions he could have won on these technicalities but chose to resume the game. Garry on the other hand is ruthless.
That’s Russia for ya
You mean the Garry that took his move back against J. Polgar?
@@williambarrantes1674 based Russia
@@JimmyBoosterCrate also once touched his piece without moving against hikaru but hikaru didn't report him
@@williambarrantes1674 Isn't he from Azerbaijan?
I did replay the fist illegal move by fabi by a slow motion, well he didnt touch the click, his queen was dropped accidentaly by mistake on the clock
Yep!
youre legit right its there like a bowling pin rocking in the background and ruining fabis game for him
That's correct. I noticed this in another video with the same situation. I wrote a comment that Caruana should have gotten away with it (as he did). Someone else answered that he should have been more careful. I thought that was a fair point, so in the end Caruana should somehow have been penalised.
Yep...
Why would you use the words “accidentally” and “by mistake” both. They mean the same thing
Alternative title: Top 10 Chess moves SO GREAT they were considered ILLEGAL afterwards **100% WIN RATIO**
I did a similar thing the other day .
I’m gonna send him this video
@@seanfaherty are you a master?
Except the guy who literally put himself in check.
czcams.com/video/9XhcKa97xME/video.html
All of the moves were breaking the rules of the game...
So the best way to beat Magnus is to make him play an illegal move
By first playing an illegal move yourself then hoping he doesn’t notice. Then calling him out on something you did first AND on purpose. Russians
Even I could win that way, It's ridiculous that those are the official rules
At least Alexandra had a better position anyway
@@joel3399 They actually aren't any more. They were changed after this event, because people couldn't agree on what was the right action.
First Carlsen lost, then the chief arbiter overruled and restarted the game in an illegal position with no legal moves, Inarkiev refused to continue and Carlsen won the game, and the tournament.
@@williambarrantes1674 for real dude, fuck russia
Meanwhile online chess waiting for interview ;)
I liked to see in the last clip how Carlsen tried to tell his opponent something like "shut up, lemme make this illegal move just for this time and don't tell anyone, don't make a drama" 😂😂😂
I remember this game and Carlsen was bitter because he let his opponent take back something earlier so I think he expected the same response but didn't get it.
I'm new 2 chest why is this illegal
@@fuk1tsu91 once you take your hands off a piece you can no longer move it.
@@roxyroller3180 spelling mistake Move on
@@epicgamer268 5:15 - apparently if you touch the piece you have to move it as well.
It’s nothing compared to the stakes here, but I remember my first international tournament. I was an unrated kid of 11 and my first round match was against a guy rated 2222. He started with Ruy Lopez and I froze when he, playing white, hit Bb5. Not only did I wait like 10 minutes to gather my thoughts and play c6 instead of a6, I even hit the clock before actually making the move. The guy, possibly knowing I was under so much stress, let it go and we continued till he soundly beat me. Was a learning experience :p
You were unrated and they let you play in an international tournament? I am assuming here that by international you mean a tournament with various levels, like district, state etc. and not a tournament with different players from different countries.
@@ClownGamerz124 no, I mean an international tournament. You don’t need to be rated to do that. If memory serves, I came in second in my state, and got an auto qualification. I did take part in the nationals. I will never forget this tournament because I came in second last, with a total of 1.5 points. There were a little over 230 players. Again, a learning experience.
@@honestabe6359 But how good have you been at this time? And do you have a rating now?
@@PokeMaestro well, I did get better since, however I played my last tournament in 2009 (or was it 2008?), where I came in 2nd in the eastern zone of my country. That was an open tournament, but I don’t know if there were many strong players. Anyway, I had to give up chess, because I had no coach, and couldn’t ask my parents to pay for one. Was just too expensive. I decided to go ahead with my education and that didn’t give me any time to play chess. I do miss it, but I feel rather ashamed of myself for not having given it a shot. And now I feel I’m too far behind to be any good.
@@honestabe6359 it’s never too late to try
Magnus doesn’t care if his opponent makes an illegal move. He just keeps on playing :)
He doesnt need to win at all
@@HIPHOPANTIFA Magnus..what can I say? Such a GENTLEMAN.
@@Durian_Defense True indeed. Of all the chess scene, him and Karpov look like great humans.
@@HIPHOPANTIFA anand
@@KaranS2022 Sure
Lol, Magnus is in the middle of almost every illegal move
Confirmation bias, perhaps. Magnus has been world champion since 2013. Camera is always on him.
He was in at least three if not four times in this compilation. Sevilla is just making an observation yet Albert decided to wake up and be a dick.
@@aw98000 How was he a dick? He just explained why Rohit (Sevilla?) comment was true; he didn't deny it.
Why are arbiters so awfuly slow at readjusting the clock? Everytime they look at this simple device and seem helplessly confused. Doesn't Fide train them?
It’s almost like it’s their job and they should know how to work it lol
I just can't believe they don't have better devices yet XD terrible little things
Every model is probably slightly different, and they don't get proper training ahead of time. At most tournaments the arbiters are volunteers, so even if they know the rules, they aren't being paid to show up early and test the equipment I guess :p
Depending on the clock, it takes over 20s even if you know *exactly* what you are doing without looking. As arbiter you also want to make sure you are doing the right thing. The DGT they are using with the electronic boards is OKish, but the "rip off" by Leap for example has a dedicated +1 button exactly to make it faster.
@@kimaboeno lmao arbiters are paid
The most legendary move is the king sacrifice of GM Vidit Gujrathi vs GM Nakamura.
6:35 The legendary king sacrifice. Not many people have the balls to make this move.
You make an illegal move, you opponent doesn't see it - because he's in check and has seconds on the clock. Well he probably should've known that he had checked his opponent, but this can't be a win for the guy who made the first illegal move. You could use this as a strategy - a very desperate one with thin hopes, but . . .
Wait, did Magnus lose? What lunacy is that? If several illegal moves are played, the one who played the last is the who loses? Shouldn't it be the one who played the first? Or rather, shouldn't the game be voided, and any results annulled, since it's not a game of chess if moves are illegal.
@@miloradowicz chill, he didn't lose. The opponent was given the win first but the arbiter later said the game will continue to which he protested and forfeited the game.
@@miloradowicz either the first move should be deemed the losing move or just play on from after the 2 illegal moves.... if tgat hurts the initial player so what and if it doesn't help the 2nd player then such is the consequence of missing the initial illegal move.
could somebody please explain why was Magnus's move to D3 illegal?
@@justsurajp it was illegal on the grounds that the illegal move prior was not addressed. This makes the next move illegal
The penalty for the Vidit error makes no sense at all. He's down to 4 seconds, makes an illegal move, and it takes 2 minutes to reset the clock. In that amount of time, Vidit can calculate the ending to completion - whereas if the arbiter hadn't fussed with the clock he might have lost on time. Lesson: if you need more time to think, just make an illegal move and think while the arbiter is busy...
The pawn endgame is lost in any case
@@Rumpael Don't get caught up in the details. It's the principle of the thing!
Vidit is not that lame
@@dontvoteforanybody3715 true
@mango lassi he got the time that it took to reset the clock, which was a hell of a lot more than 4 seconds. yes accident but he is saying one *CAN* use it to their advantage to have extra time, even though the opponent gets the time on the clock.
6:52 he is trying best to hold his laugh hahahah
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the meme.
For us chess novices, it would be nice for a slow motion replay with a calm explanation of the foul.
total novice here, 7:53 isn't that checkmate by the white rook? why did he moved another piece and even the other didn't even care and continued moving his king? I think I've been playing a different kind of chess all my life now
@@arturoid776 Yes, the black king is in check- he should have taken the rook, but moves his knight- totally illegal.
@@oldschool1993And the worst thing about it is magnus moving his king in check vs black bishop and losing the game to an illegal move
@@rb7500why he losed? If the openent made illegal move first?
@@josefmasdjedi1316 I'm sorry, my initial comment is wrong. The reason why Magnus lost is that it counts as an illegal move to move your own chess piece when the opponent's king is in check. So even if Magnus was not the first one to make an illegal move, it still counts as an illegal move, and his opponent called him out on it and got the win. The whole thing was resolved afterwards, and Magnus was awarded the win.
I remember once in a team tournament, me and my team were fairly new to the game and we weren't introduced to clocks yet so we weren't aware that we had to press the clock with the same hand we used to move the pieces. When we did exactly that, all three of our opponents called for the arbiter and we just had to laugh our asses off as to how perfectly synced that foul was. I still think bout it to this day
I m new to Chess but I noticed that in the Clip where Magnus played against the woman (Alexandra i think her Name was).
It looked so awkward and made me think, that the Person who has the clock on their right hand side (assuming both are right handed) has a big advantage
@@andulasis6283 How is that a big advantage?
@@toothlesstoeis that a serious question?
@chrisdawson4524 Yes, because you would only have to move your hand a few extra inches, so does a few extra milliseconds really make for a _big_ advantage?
Considering chess is a game where you can run out of time every second matters, even some of the games shown here with grand masters are down to ten seconds left, the half-seconds each turn you spend reaching over to the clock add up over the length of a game.
13:33 carlsen: choose your words carefully for they might be your last. (Hand ready to karate chop)
lmao
The other guy didnt die so...
@@deepjain7765 Yeah because Carlsen realised "oh wait murder IS against FIDE regulations isn't it"
0:34 I didn't see Fabi intentionally pressed the clock. I think when he was about to get the queen for promotion he accidentally pressed the clock unknowingly. there was a little fumble there when he picked up the queen and maybe the side tip of the queen made contact with the clock or from the side of his palm. it was evident when promoting into queen, Fabi still pressed his clock which by that time was already pressed. so unfortunate for him to end that game that way. reminds me when i participated in a non-rated tournament before, i didn't know about this rule. I move my pawn for promotion and pressed the clock before putting up my queen. I lost on a winning game, sadly, but still learned something new.
If you slow the video down you can se he grabs queen and misses and it wobbles and the Queen edge actually presses the clock, not his hand.
@@pequadcob2009 Yeah his hand is nowhere near it, its wild looking on slow mo.
@@pequadcob2009thank you, I could not figure out how it got pressed and this makes the most sense
Tbh fabiano was not even intending to touch his clock it was just that when he was picking up the piece it unintentionally touched the clock
Man I was laughing so hard on Nakamura's reaction
Dude I watched it thrice at 0.25x he didn't touch the clock how did it even happen? Like where does the piece hit the clock?
@@sharanshetty5040 could it be that while taking the queen the piece oscillated and hit the clock? (x0,25)
We need the VAR
No one would ever do something like that on purpose, but it still gave him extra time that was not warranted. He made Hikaru's clock start ticking down while Hikaru was unable to make a move, because Caruana hadn't finished his own move yet. That's obviously not something that should be allowed, whether an accident or not.
"Don't change yourself for others, you are perfect the way you are"
@8:54
pawn : Okay
lmao
Years ago I play a match where I forgot to hit my clock. After that, both me and my opponent (quite new to otb chess) forgot to hit our clocks. So we both play until the end only with my time running down. I checkmated the guy but at the end we realized that we never hit the clock, I still have time on my clock. I lost because of I was the first who didn't hit the clock. But later the decision was overturned and I got the win.
"checkmate ends the game". Clock doesn't matter upon mate.
That would not make sense, according to that logic that means the opponent had to have made a move while your clock was running thus being the first to make an illegal move, and either way logically you should win if you checkmated him under the amount of time.
So let me understand.. neither of you knew you had to hit the clock after every move? Otherwise it doesn't make any sense. And also, if your time is running out, it means your opponent was the one making a move on your time. You forgetting to press the clock isn't illegal, his move was.
@@andreib4226 no i knew i need to hit the clock. its just i was too focused on the game i forgot to hit it. i think my opponent knew but he just did not tell me and use the clock to his advantage since only my time running down. this was years ago when i was a teenager. i thought it was my loss for forgetting it. as i remember i just left the board since i was ridiculously annoyed that i forgot to hit the clock, i didnt care anymore about the result and just left.
when i was 11-12 years old i experienced the hard way of losing a completely winning position with a backrank mate on an otb game. it haunted me forever and made me quit chess for a bit. so on that match i was so hyper focused on the game thinking about how i can still throw the game in the most stupid way, and then i forgot to hit the clock lol.
6:36 hikaru's face when his opponent sacrifice his king 😂😂😂
I saw this in a chess meme video
"Did you ever hear about the ... king gambit ?!"
@@jmdesp king sacrifice
@@jmdesp thats an illegal move you cant force your king to be mated by your own move
For me it's actually not funny he do it on purpose to have time, he only have 2 second on the clock.
After 0:35 he didn't press the clock two times .. it was just the Ghost
Bruh u right lmao
After looking at it frame by frame, I think the queen fell onto the clock after he slightly missed grabbing it.
@@tomjacobs4444 you don't have to inform that.., we know that It fell as ghost loved the queen.
Watch in slow 0.25 mythical americans his hand hit the black queen which hit the clock
Exactly
For the promotion blunders, just change the rule so that if you don't say anything, it's a queen. It's by far the most common promotion, and this will make especially rapid and blitz games less awkward in such situations, since you're already doing so much simultaneous thinking and precise hand movements.
I don't understand why someone would want anything other than a Queen. It's the best piece.
@@johnnyslokes2712 You're correct in like 99% of all cases, but sometimes a knight can lead to a checkmate which wouldn't be possible with a queen. And there are many chesspuzzles where you want to underpromote so you don't get a stalemate so maybe once in a blue moon someone stumbles in a similar position and wants something else then a queen
@@bam3xs I understand why in some rare cases you would want a knight because of its unique movement just that a queen can do anything a bishop or rook could do
@@johnnyslokes2712 There are some cases where the extra options a queen has can cause a stalemate where your opponent can't do anything but they aren't in check so the game is a draw. In a situation like that you might promote to rook or bishop to avoid the draw and then get the checkmate
@@baldandknucklesthanks, i’ve never thought about it
6:22 Ahh yes, i am expecting this IMMORTAL KING SACRIFICE,
IT NEVER GETS OLD🤣😂🤣😂
Seeing a guy as amazing as Magnus doing a couple of illegal moves and losing his focus a couple of years back gives me hope in getting better in the game as a rookie just getting started learning
Everyone makes mistakes
That's why they should bring back the audible "check" rule
Yes
Audible check rule leads to “he put me in check but didn’t say it, so I won” and “I didn’t hear him say check”.
1. they can't "bring it back", because such rule never existed
2. if they do, why not obligate players to inform their opponents about all other circumstances that make certain moves illegal in the position?
"my Bishop is hitting f1, so you can't castle short"
"you can't take en passant anymore, because one move has passed"
"don't try moving your Knight on c6, i've pinned it"
how are those situations any different from putting someone in check (from the perspective of preventing illegal moves being made)
0:35 it's like a ghost pressed the clock
he fumbled the queen and dropped it on the timer
OH RIGHTT, and the commentators didnt see it too
Please elaborate, what actually happened and what should be done according to the rules
@@anupamsinghania4641 Fabiano Caruana promoted his pawn to a queen, but pressed the clock before putting the queen on the board. Therefore, according to the chess rules, he promoted his pawn to a pawn, which is illegal.
@@idontwantmynameinhere thanks for the clarification
HE TOUCH DE KENG !!!
ojojoj
now there is something
HE NEDZ TE MOOV IT
@Quinn_The_Goat 9002 HE KLERLY TAUCH DE KENG!
Caruana clearly didn't touch the clock. He was just reaching for the queen and, in the rush of it, the piece fell and touched the clock.
3:02 I love how Kasparov walks away like, “you f’d up bro, lol”
13:31 Magnus reaction 😂
He let takeback earlier so was expecting the same
@@Adriano70911 can u explain
Why is it illegal move to adjust the move while he's not yet pressing the clock?
I don't think I'll ever stop being emotionally mad about the clip shown at the beginning and 8:00. "I win because I made an illegal move and you failed to point out my illegal move, which means you forfeit." Is a pretty weird way to say "oops, I cheated, I'm sorry."
Im really curious what would've been if he took the king instead? 😂 I mean theoretically this would be the normal ending of a game
@@demp11why was the move before Magnus illegal please?
@@Sam1878Henry When Carlson takes the Black pawn at B7 with his rook he puts the Black King in check. Neither player seems to notice as 01): Inarkiev then moves his black rook to put pressure on the white King and 02): Carlson then moves his white king out of check.
The dude got humiliated after. The ref said they would go back to before the first illegal move was played. However the dude refused to play and Magnus won
Lol not just mad, but emotionally mad.
00:30 I don't think fabi intentionally hit the clock on this one. I checked the frames between 00:35-00:36 and it appears as though he was grappling for the queen and he accidentally touched the clock with the side of his hand.
He didn't. The queen fell and touched the clock. Watch it at 0.25x.
It does not matter if it was an accident or not.
@@geenkaas6380 Fabi did not touch the clock so they had to reset it.
see it on 0.25 speed, black queen start rotating and just push the clock
Oh my god, that's insane. I once had almost the same situation as in Hikaru - Levon game. It was rook endgame, I was pawn down and I had king on g7, I touched the king, then I said "I adjust" and was forced to move it and lost the game. When I saw the position, I literally thought, what my game was doing in super gms games compilation.
Really poor sportsmanship on Levons part, not just reporting Hikaru for it, but grinning over it. I'd be ashamed of having to resort to such technicalities, not smiling ear to ear.
@@bobbobert9379 He did the right thing, Hikaru is the most distasteful player I ever saw. You can watch a video where Levon beats him fair and square and Hikaru after that talked and behaved very disrespctuful towards him even tho he should be mad at himself only. So yea deserves him right
@@msj8601 In all these clips Hikaru lets their opponent resume the game instead of taking the win on a technicality even in blitz where the opponent gets more time to think for his move than he initial would during the arbiter's decision. Hikaru would have let Levon resume the game if Levon made Hikaru's mistake. Hikaru is honest for the sake of the sport and due to being charismatic, that is not the same as being distasteful or intentionally disrespectful.
@@msj8601hikaru may not be a graceful loser but that doesn't make Levons lack of sportsmanship any better either. It's about being the bigger man and it shows that he isn't really much better than hikaru in terms of respect.
Nepo didn't technically illegally promote to a pawn. It was just clear to both of them the queen was gonna be taken, so they didn't bother with the promotion. Although it's true that it's more of a casual thing to do, not to be seen in a tournament.
And its not nepo as the movie says, its peter svidler.
The illegal move happens later in the game which is not shown
That's a long way to explain that it's still a illegal move
@Tinskap That reminds me: Some Russian woman grandmaster got disqualified one time for not knowing how to properly promote a piece-removed the pawn from the 2nd (or 7th, don't remember which) rank and placed a queen down on the back rank. The arbiters had a clucking session on that one LMFAO
@@toothlesstoe *What's the proper technique?*
6:23 ahhh the great "tata steel india blitz coughing tournament" of 2019. great match
5:32 Aronian explaining like Sandeep Maheshwari 😆
Lmao arbiter aasan haiiiii
Ya...u rght
10:22 dubov got the drip on
7:58 so if you make an illegal move after an illegal move you lose? wtf?
The decision was later overturned and Magnus won.
i'm sorry, i don't understand, why is king d3 illegal? can you please enlighten?
@@khuntienboy he let go in a different spot
It's 21st century anything can happen.
@@khuntienboy at 7:52 white (Magnus) plays Rxb7+ so black must either capture the rook or move the king because his king is in check but instead does Ne3 (illegal move). White (Magnus) doesnt realize his opponent made an illegal move and proceeded to play Kd3 when he should have stopped the clock and called for the arbiter.
This video was GREAT. Thx fore bringing this to light : )
2:54 topalov makes the illegale move of pressing the clock without pressing queen. and kasparov true to his self declares the game is over (he is right though). Normally people call for arbiter and than arbitor declares the game is over, but kasparov, u made the illegal move game is over we don't need any arbitor for it, i am leaving the board. kasparov rue to his self.
Rememebr when he did the illegal move vs Judit Polgar and kept playing as if it hasn't happened?
@@EviiLCaE yeah kasparov is sometimes suspecious. with judit than against nakamura the famous touch move incident. his way of bagging clock loudly. kasparov plays phenomenal chess but than he also does this other intimidating things. I guess it is part of the game. as in chess if u are playing against strong opponent than such psychological tricks might break the opponent. Fischer did it too. None of them will admit but it is evident from videos and live watch.
Comes time, comes punishment...
Kasparov did 2,5 /18 last blitz-tournament🤣🤣🤣
@@olivercalm7020 he didn't play for years, better to show him some respect for courage and getting at least some points vs top-tier GMs)
@@user-if2rw9xk3u No respect for bad losers
2 Things i understand from watching this video. 1st is that Nakamura is involved in many of those "Illegal Moves". 2nd is it looks like the clock is very hard to program LOL
13:33 it was at this moment young Magnus took it personally and decided he would never again show anyone mercy especially hikaru and would grow up to reign as the supreme chess champion.
In order to try to defeat magnus, u should make an illegal move (with a check very important to remember) in order to maybe make him do an illegal move.
I want to see a game where someone makes an illegal move and then the two players just continue making gradually more flagrant illegal moves after that.
Magnus: 13:29 Makes an illegal move
His opponent: 13:30 That's not right!
Magnus: 13:31 *Does the Shifu Samurai master pose to confuse his opponent*
Classic 🤣🤣🤣
Bruh lmaoo
He tried to Jedi his way out of it.
Shhhhhhhhhh fine ok it’s just game why you have to be mad imma head out
What was his illegal move
@@catturdgt9879 he moved the king again after he released it.
I've played maybe 5 games of chess in my life but for some reason I find this stuff fascinating even though I have zero idea what's happening...
I love how this video is, indirectly, a motivation video.
I always wondered about this.
In most games it seems you only have the two players adjudicating for the moves.
_”You can’t lose, if you’re disqualified”_
- Sun Tzu’s Landlord
People do like to talk lots of shit about Hikaru, but i'm sure he knew it was an honest mistake and took the sportsmanship route when, instead, he could've won on the spot because of cheap, inflexible and irrational Chess rules! Great sportsmanship attitude by him!
Magnus never argues. He just accept his mistake and walk off. He learns from his mistake and that is why he is the World Champion
Cum
That's why he cheats in st
Louis 2022?
@@soccerguy2433 Cheat? Magnus?
@@soccerguy2433 What?
@@soccerguy2433 of course someone saying this garbage would have a Ukraine flag avatar
I love how chess is a game of geniuses, but the rule is like "YOU TOUCH IT, YOU LOSE GAME" and "YOU PUT PIECE IN WRONG PLACE, YOU LOSE GAME"
The rule isn't "you touch it, you lose game". What are you talking about?
@@scrumpymanjack didn’t they say he touched the king so he has to move it?
Who said that chess is a game of geniuses? It's more about hard work and memorisation. Not necessarily genius unless you want to become a super grandmaster.
@@achyuththouta6957 well, the title of this game is super grandmasters, and the rules are for them. Sorry the guy didn't specifiy he was talking about the video we are all commenting on
no, the actual rule is "you touch a piece, you have to move it" (which doesn't necessarily lead to a losing position).
and it makes perfect sense, because you don't want someone to be fiddling with their pieces all over the board, testing what different positions would look like.
it's a game that tests your visualisation skills, meaning you have to imagine what the position will be after the moves are made. that's part of the contest.
an illegal move also doesn't lose outright; there's usually a time penalty, it's only if you keep on making illegal moves that you can't be qualified. how is it different from any other sports or mental games? you can't touch a ball with your hands in football (soccer), nor kick it in basketball. also if you're playing cards, eg. bridge, illegal plays are penalized, and once the card touches the table, you can no longer revoke it.
i generally can't see a logical reason why one would expect a game for geniuses (for argument's sake) to have less strict rules than a game for ordinary mortals. if someone wants take-baksies and tolerance for illegal moves, they should play kids games.
The concept of illegal moves is worse in kids's tournaments
They re like arbiter sir he saw the peice but he didnt move it
True lol, or they move their king back and forth 3 times and claim it's a draw
At least magnus is honorable enough to instantly forfeit if he makes an illegal move.
look at the first one in slomo, Fabi does NOT press the clock; it's like some ghost is doing it for him
God that background sound during Petrosyan vs Dubov is enough to make any chess player make a mistake it sounds like something out of a horror movie before the monster jumps out lmao
Whilst chess can be quite honourable in terms of players showing respect and resigning when they know they're beat, this video shows they can also be absolute arseholes.
I mean Magnus accepted his losses in about as gracious a way as one is expected. Inarkiev is the only one who was a bad sport. I'll die on the hill that he played ne3 on purpose with the intent to claim an illegal move because he knew he was lost.
It's just not in any human nature to be concentrated hard on winning and beating opponent and then to instantly do a 180 and accept that some technicality lost you the game. Give people a few seconds at least to accept hard facts.
Their egos are too big, if you make a mistake just acknowledge it and learn from it so it does not happen again. Simple as that.
Commentator: "How is this possible? You make an illegal move and you win."
Me: ...I see the chess ruler makers have machiavellian spirit to them haha
6:00 Seeing a man with thick mustache doing this is kinda cute and weird at the same time lol
Still, this does not beat the brilliant move by the New York street hustler who took two knights with one pawn in one move against an American grand master in cognito. It was all filmed and went viral.
10:00 - Bobby Fischer was the arbiter :)
Really???
@@carlgreen998 No. Sadly Fischer died some years ago. :(
@@carlgreen998 no, he just looks like him but thicker :). Still nobody seen bobby dead neither Bobbies Ocelandic Friends.
He stills alive.
6:35 Here comes an epic king sacrifice 😂
Fabi accidently hit the clock grabbing the queen to put back on the board, which is why he was surprised when to went to push the clock button and it was already down.
In the Hikaru one, it technically wasn't an illegal move. As he went to pick up the queen, it sorta danced around and hit the clock. His hand did not make contact with the clock
The Nakamura and Caruana game was a mistake from Caruana, he try to grab the queen and he failed to make the change cause he lost the grip, when he tried again while you see the hand of Caruana going back he pressed the clock accidentally. When he was going to push the clock it was already done at the second attempt to make the change.
some of these were just mental exhaustion, you can tell they don't even see the mistake thats how focused they are. great sportsmanship by some of them.
Sometimes people don't understand that these are very fast movements, sometimes we make mistakes
Making an illegal move and then trying to claim the win because opponent didn't notice you cheated is perhaps the lowest of the low in sports.....
I agree, this rule is very stupid and unfair because sometimes a player in disanvantage cheats in this way by playing an illegal move on purpose hoping to get a dirty win because he has nothing to lose.
yes, and stupid people claim it's your fault if you didn't report the illegal move first...
You knew your value when you win like that.
It's the better you can do.
The worst, they are some people who think this rule is fair.
The rules are perhaps stupid but I think the player is right in calling the arbiter over as soon as they noticed a misplay occurred (even if it was their misplay in the first play). The arbiter needs to decide how the game should continue at that point, not the players.
If the player didn't call the arbiter in that situation they would be trying to hide their rules violation.
If you don't realize your opponent made an illegal move you are making one of yourself for playing on
Most slimy of them all: Kasparav vs 17 year old Judit Polgar in Lineares
*"To confuse enemy you first gotta confuse yourself"* fits perfectly
9:10
It is ok if you played it in normal life, not in a contest. Because, the pawn was going to die immediately, anyway.
About the last one, I don't think it illegal, since the rules are: "move the piece you've touched", "no 2 moves in your turn", "no moving in your opponent time". So, editing a move of a same peice in your turn before clicking on the clock is technically legal, unless if there is another rule I missed.
13:04
Yp the king be fine 🤭🤭
😂😂😂😂
11:28 it s also an illegal move to call the referee with a nazi salute
I think when Magnus Carlsen makes an illegal move it seems it's the only way he loses games 😂
Magnus karate chop at the end is legendary
*I've only played 2 OTB rated tournaments, and glad this never happened to me especially the queen promotion resulting into a loss*
Some of these illegal moves seem to be very situational,
To my knowledge since I was young, I thought that so long as you kept your hand on the peice you were moving, you can move it back it's original position and move a different peice or well the peice you intended .... do note that I don't play speed chess or anything timed, so I know there are rules I don't know about, but as long as you didn't move a peice to a different location you could still move any peice, guess that may be a casual chess game
In the Fabi instance, commentators are fucking up things
I watched the Fabiano thing about 10 times. I'm amazed the button is so lightly triggered by a piece bring dropped from one centimeter away.
Not a huge chess fan but I love how savage the rules are
maybe it's because i'm newer to chess, but stuff like this is why I prefer chess played on computers, even for in person tournaments. it's also a lot easier to follow for casual chess players
You're right from a purely practical perspective, but I'm not buying this perspective... apart from very fast time controls (where I agree it has enough weight to prevail).
The physicality of the board and pieces may be getting in the way occasionally, but it has an esthetic appeal that a computer with a mouse lacks. It's like traditional books vs. ebooks. There's beauty in traditional physical books that you can't achieve with epub files.
For example there's this something about two people looking mesmerisingly at the same board... if they just stare at their screens, it's just another e-sport to me. But yes, I can't defend it on a 100% logical level. It's allure.
6:35 as someone with just basic chess knowledge, I always thought if you yourself move into a check, it’s just game over cuz they capture your king as their turn so you checkmate yourself basically. Have no clue what went on there at 6:35 when he self checked his own king.
Self checking yourself is an illegal move. So the "illegal move penalty" occurs. From what i understand in this video players used to instantly lose after doing an illegal move. But that changed "recently" and now your opponent gets 1 minute added to his time, instead.
you cannot "move yourself into a check" by definition - it's not a legal move.
capturing a King is not a legal move either.
so you are already "off the map" once the first of the two happens, and chess rules no longer apply, because they cannot apply.
chess played at homes is pretty often some sort of a custom variant - people invent the weirdest rules of their own : ) like that you can only promote to a piece that has been captured before, etc
And here MC makes an illegal move checking his opponent while he himself is still in check.
For the last clip, Magnus made an illegal move because Magnus dropped the king (pay attention to the physical board) (Kd4, magnus dropped piece, he played illegal move of Kc4)
Ah yes, the King sacrifice
Making an illegal move and winning triggered me
Such a dumb rule
he didn't win. Carlsen won later.
@@mrao514 point still stands
You can tell how unprepared the arbiters and everyone else is for this to happen among GM's, its basically just a bridge they cross when it happens because its so unlikely
Vinny Livermore used to love the extended knight move (e.g, d3-e7), when he wasn't adding time to his own clock.
Finally I have worked out my strategy to win over a grand master.
Wow I hope these guys were arrested and are now serving life in penitentiary
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Wtf thats not how it works
@@RayaanWani they were being sarcastic
Put em all on death row 👍
@@RayaanWani nah bro, it’s illegal, they got to serve time
I am so glad the double illegal move loss got overturned.
Yessh in the frame-by-frame of the first one you can see he knocked over the queen when he went to grab it and that hit the clock
Magnus has lost hundreds before becoming what he is today, hats off to the temperament