Xona Rotor UHF Turbine Turbo Review XR9569S
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2019
- In our 5th installment of the Forged Performance R35 Nissan GT-R drag car we do a product review of the new turbine technology that is used on these new Xona Rotor UHF or Ultra High Flow turbine design. We race in the 68mm turbo class for R35 GT-R drag racing and are limited to the compressor inducer size but there are no restrictions on the turbine side which is where are can find some unlocked horsepower by reducing the EMAP restrictions you typically see on a t3 based turbocharger. This turbine design takes an entirely new approach to choke flow and turbine back pressure while still maintaining the same amount of torque that is applied to the shaft to spool up the compressor side of the turbo charger.
To learn more about this turbo please go check out the Xona Rotor website to read up on this specific model amount others in their entire line up of UHF turbine designed wheels.
xonarotor.com/product/xr-9569s... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Xona for the win
Can you link us to the 997 turbo running 35psi that gained 100whp?
How big is the lag with xr9569 on 3.8l fully build motor on gtr r 35 with s4 cams and billet girlde and billet crank etc ? When does the boost kicks in? 5500?
Thank you in advance
I would say on that combination the lag will be fairly noticeable. The UHF turbine wheels need a lot of displacement behind them to work as advertised. You would want to be on a 4.1 or 4.3 if lag is a concern for your build. If it is a drag car that wont matter as much, but still something to consider.
How would the xona xr 105 69s be in a like 700whp+ build?? Xona website says it’s good for 550-1100whp , so would it be good in a 4 cylinder at like 700whp or at that lower level would it be to laggy, it’s a 72mm turbo so is lag gonna be to much? Or should I scale down for a smaller turbo?? Because my set up is definitely capable of 1000whp but don’t wanna push it that hard. So was thinking of going 800hp at the most so would the 105 69s be a good fit?
That is all somewhat subjective, but what I can tell you is that these turbine housings favor larger displacement and to a lesser extent compression. With this wheel (on the R35 platform that we have experience with) there is considerable lag on the standard 3.8L vs the 4.1 or 4.3 variants. So if your engine is a smaller displacement 4 cyl, I would go with a more traditional turbine with eel, but if you have a larger displacement engine it will work quite well for you.
@@ColabGarage well my set up is a 2.3l ecoboost engine in a mustang, the xona turbo and kit has never been done before on this platform. So it is 4cylinder but it moves massive amounts of air! These engine are no slouches. But it’s fully built using the strongest best parts possible, all custom spec parts only made for this particular build like the darton sleeve specifically made for this build as well as pistons and cams. Originally my buider and I were shooting for 1000whp but now I don’t wanna take it that far and push the engine so hard. But he still wants to stick with 105 69s so that’s why I been trying to do research to see if that might be to big. Said should be in full boost by 4200 rpm’s. But I have seen that these xona turbos are like nothing else and their bigger turbos spool like small turbos. And people say as far as responsiveness and performance there is nothing out there like what xona can do. So the 105 69s says it’s good for 550-1100whp so I think at 700whp+ probably a good fit. But idk I wanna be sure. Righty now I have a stock engine 2.3l ecoboost with full bolt ons at 420whp on a precision nx2 52mm turbo. And turbo is maxed out at full boost. The other build is currently being built. But not using the 2.3l block that is known for weakness cuz it’s open deck. I’m using a closed deck 2.0 ST block with the 2.3 stroker kit. The ST block is a closed deck but will be sleeved and it’s a much stronger block and better designed. With either the 2.3 factory head built and ported or the euro version 2.0 cylinder that has 4port exhaust and will be ported to 2.3. And flow more air then the single TS port from factor 2.3 head. Still deciding the final touches. So yeah not sure wether i wanna stick with the xona 105 69s 72mm turbo for like 700whp+ or just get a smaller turbo. There e is evo guys running 1200whp on a xona 95 69s , they are insane turbos
@@ColabGarage plenty of the mistsubishi Evo guys are running the 95 and 105 69s and they are getting test results but they pushing way more power the 700whp , they pushing like 1000 or 900whp at least!
@@Paper.Power.Politics Some of this is also going to come down to the application you are using this for…. If this is a drag application then you can be a little more liberal on larger turbo sizing and you don’t need transient response like you do in a street car. That being said, these turbos like to operate at high pressure ratios so if 700 is the target I would stick with the 95, or even possibly the 82 if response is more important over peak power potential.
@@ColabGarage yeah that is what my concern is the response. Don’t really wanna deal with turbo lag. And it’s gonna be a street set up , but also gonna be doing time attack at the track and maybe some drag racing to. I live down street from willow springs so a lot of it os for street and occasional track driving. But my builder says that turbo is not to big. And should be in full boost by 4200 rpm. Not picking up boost at 4200 , full boost by 4200 rpm’s and I don’t think that is laggy. Probably gonna be able to rev out to 7000-7500 rpm’s. I appreciate your response and opinion on the matter! Definitely gonna be making sure turbo is right for set up. The turbo kit and manifold would be done by ETS
where is the T4 divided turbine housing?
ya its a big turn down, need a proper stainless T4 divided housing! Or make the shit compatible with BW EFR
@@johnsm007 lol these turbos don’t need it. Vband flows amazing
@@brotomwang8218 I aint saying it doesnt flow or it sucks but for people that have 1000 dollar T4 manifolds you might want to consider making a hot side for
Time to sell that manifold and have a lighter and smaller set up
is this commercial video
if yes....the turbo is so pricey
and i recommend one pece
back plate and catreg
@@ColabGarage thank you for your response
Almost Same price as a pte/garrett but 5x better
Went to the website and there were no pricing......so that let's me know they are clearly out of my price range.
No they are cheaper then Garrett for my setup and make less power then the Garrett when I want and make more when I want and cost 350$ less. Prolly the same for you
@@402SHO they should put pricing then
@@lastamericanhero59 well as far as I know why would they when u can’t buy them directly from Xona website rightnow.
@@lastamericanhero59 They have pricing listed on forced performance
"documennery"?
When you see the baseball hat, indoors wait for the crap English.