Ive had both, currently own a 2016 DCT NC750x. My 2015 CB500x when i owned it, i got 76mpg average over 3,800 miles(uk figures). Not had the Honda NC750x DCT very long, but im getting between 82-91mpg(approx 10mpg more than the CB500x). The NC750x is a much better feeling bike, the weight helps it feel very stable with a low centre of gravity. DCT gearbox makes the bike a pleasure to ride, it handles better, i felt the CB500x was wallowing in it's front suspension handling and felt a cheaper bike. I'd recommend the NC750x over the CB500x
they did a big improvement with cb500x 2022 model. better suspension and handling, 2 disc brakes, no shaking. overall it doesn't feel cheap as the previous one
@@chrisw4215 Agreed the 2022 looks really nice and matured platform. However, the new price is only $500 cheaper than brand new 2021 NC750X (manual) in my area. The used prices for NC700X and CB500X are very similar, even though the NC started out as a more expensive bike.
Thank you for that helpful comparison test. However, I think, with respect, you may have left out the single thing that makes it hard for me to think of giving up my NC750X: stability in strong winds. I do a lot of touring in Europe (not at the moment!) and I have found some really good bikes (like the V-Strom for instance) can be pretty scary in those strong winds on the Spanish plains (for example). I went to a faired Bandit which was great with its heavy, low down weight but I have long legs and I'm old and I couldn't put up with the cramped position. The NC is simply astonishingly stable in strong winds because of the position of the fuel tank. You would never expect it from a relatively tall bike, but it really is planted.
Hey there I currently ride a Vstrom 650 and was looking at switching to a 2015 nc750xa. Wondering your opinion overall. I don’t do any off roading for reference.
this is really good to know, thank you. i recently took a trip through the desert in nevada on a tiger 800 and holy $&!:)...someone i was riding with took pity on my situation and let me ride their T120. huge difference...passed over turned semi trucks...but the lower cg and maybe less surface area made a huge difference in what was probably 50 mph constant crosswinds.
@@Sunz-me5mo I'd probably go for the T120 and if I thought I might take it on some gravel roads, put some 80/20 tires on it. I think the T120, for what I would do with it, is the most versatile, which might seem odd because the Tiger is an ADV bike...city riding, the T120. Occasional touring on the weekend or maybe a little longer trips, the T120 (more stable really, still pretty comfortable). Occasional riding on gravel back roads, 80/20 tires on the T120 and call it a day.
i own a CB 2019 larger wheel upfront, taller at the seat, slip clutch etc, for the price and the ride and the insurance and running cost the cb 500x is a no brainer the NC does not offer enough difference for the price here in the uk. Just my humble opinion.
Very nice comparison, well done. I like both bikes as well, though at 2m/97.5kg i have to have the NC. Last year i traded my 12' NCx for a really nice 15' NC700DCT and man do i love it! There is only one drawback that i have been able to see(imho) and that is that i was able to pull better mpg's with the 700x than i can with the dct. Beside that, i enjoy everything about the dct. It handles mountain roads, logging roads, miles of gravel and chews up tarmac like there is no tomorrow! I have held off buying an ST1300 as the NC does all of that and gets better mpg. I have also held off buying a CRF300L as the NC handles all of those places that i would go and ride with it anyway... So, the NC really is an amazingly versatile bike in every way! Enjoy the many smiles per mile the two of you can Mate. Cheers! :{)
I am the happy owner of an NC and apart from the seat am VERY happy with it. If I could go back in time I would buy the DCT version as it suits the engine characteristics and the sort of rides I am doing. I thought the dct would be too complicated given I live over 250km from my nearest dealer. I found out later that the whole NC range including dct is completely bulletproof and I had nothing to worry about. Hopefully my "investment" in a Shad seat will pay dividends when winter is finally over.
Might i add yet another difference that might be interesting to some: center of gravity! Due to the engine lying flat on the very low end of the NC, the center of gravity is ridiculously low which makes low speed handling in the city a breeze. Thats also the reason why, in my opinion at least, the even heavier DCT version carries its weight very easily. To me personally, being a 185cm 95kilo chunk of austrian meatball, the center of gravity + the frunk + the DCT are killer features which pushed out all other bikes that i considered.
Thank you very much for this great video. I really enjoy your movies and I highly appreciate the work that you put into them. This was a great comparison and if I had a wife that wants to drive a bike too I‘d get her an CB500X. I fell in love with my NC750X with DCT about 3 years ago. With the easy handling, the high torque at low rpm, the reliability, the frunk and the DCT it is just ideal for me too. Please continue your great movies. Best wishes from Germany where it is just a little cold to drive my NC.
Thank you for the comparison! I had a 2019 CB500X for about a year (and 15000 km), my first bike. I left it yesterday at the dealer, who lent me a test ride bike until my new one arrives on Friday. I was looking for an upgrade, but had this impression that the NC750x wouldn't be far apart from my CB, and you confirmed it. I ended up getting a V-Strom 650 XT. There is no free lunch though. With a feather wrist, the loaner made 23km/l in my commute today, the 500 was an easy 30km/l even with a heavier wrist. The recommended oil changes (12k km vs 6k km) and spark plug replacement (2 every 24k km vs 4 every 12k km!) will also cost more. But boy does it feel different, comfort and punch wise!
Hi buddy. You prefer the Vstrom to the CB? Im asking cuz I was actually deciding in between the CB, the NC and the Vstrom 650. Im 1,92m and 115kgs. I was never a Suzuki fan until the Vstrom. I saw the Vstrom 250 a few days ago and I loved it. 6800€ in Portugal brand new.
I have a NC700X and the "Frunk", that storage area where the gas tank usually is, has me totally spoiled. Great gas mileage and I like the taller seat.
I am at that age where the frunk is useful not just for my map, phone, sandwiches, flask of tea, spare thick gloves and scarf but also for my spare specs, my bifocals (small writing on maps) and my old varifocals (in case I need to see something on the bike at exactly the wrong distance for my distance lens and my reading lens). Presbyopia sucks big time but the NC never fails to impress. Hard to imagine being frunkless now...
@@brunoglanzmann4935 Yup. It's been good. There's some things that I would like to change like the size of the pillion seat, make the suspension more adjustable. It could be a little lighter. But it's a good all-arounder and super dependable. 70mpg. Great on the road and fair on trails.
I don't understand why everyone raves so much about this, when the Honda Deavuille of a couple of decades ago, came with built in x 27.4 litre slim* panniers, completely dwarfing the little under tank storage of the NC750X, yet not many people seemed to care. (slim meaning they made no difference to filtering on a commuting bike as they tucked in behind your legs, unlike modern massive bolt-on panniers which stick out really far)
Thanks for doing this comparison review. I had 2015 model cb500x and I sold it because I was bored with it. I had few different motorbikes since and now I am regretting my decision. It was good in everything and excellent in nothing (other than fuel economy). It was by far most versatile motorbike I ever had.
I hear you on that. I have a CBR500R with full bolt-ons and a tune. Despite this the bike is still a bit underwhelming in the performance department, faster than a Ninja 400 but slower than I'd like. Still, the reliability, comfort, and fuel efficiency means that I'll be keeping my CBR500R for a long time.
5 years ago I sold a Honda NTV650 1988 to buy the NC750 2014. It was my main disappointment in modern motorcycles. I was lucky to buy my motorcycle back a few years later. Now I'm thinking about CB500x (400x) as a second motorcycle. During this time, I had a lot of different things - from Hornet 250 to CB1300 and FZ-1, from VT750 to NX650.
Both bikes are good, especially the new CB with 19" front tyre , but I would still choose NC because of storage and consumption. Good video and thanks for sharing
Great review. The new 23 still has a single front brake disc as opposed to the dual one on the new 500x now with new upside down Showa forks. Would love to see this great review updated with the 2023 versions, both very different bikes.
I think the nc has the edge for commuters, like me. The storage compartment is so practical and the bike looks so clean when I have clothes for change and laptop with me...
I bought my 2015 new in 2018. The discount solidified the deal for me. I never rode a cb so I guess I'll take your word for it. My NC is stuck with me though.
Nice video as always! Comparing the specs of both bikes I cannot understand now why we have only 14 liters fuel tank on the NC750X and why the bike it's so heavy. I also noticed that the CB500X , at least the new model, it's more customisable for off road riding/enduro riding, it has a much more variaty of accessories for it. Perhaps Honda calculated for both a manufacturer cost optimisation to be able to offer a good value for money. If I would choose again I would go stil with the NC because of the DCT. Greetings!
> "I cannot understand now why we have only 14 liters fuel tank on the NC750X" Because they put a storage compartment where the fuel tank usually goes. No room left for a bigger tank. (Personally i think it's a daft idea, built-in slim panniers like the Deauville had makes more sense in my opinion.)
Gracias por su video, estaba con dudas entre la NC y la CB, creo que por peso y opciones off road, elijo la CB500XA, quizá en un futuro la cambie por una NC o una versys cuando la mejoren un poco!
Good presentation, thanks. As a long legged 230# lad the NC750X is the better fit. My riding style on fire roads is to putt-putt along seeing the sights camera at the ready. Cheers!!
As you get older, NC low rev torque with up gear happy DCT is a pleasure. This combined with storage and decent suspension and riding position, has brought back in town riding to me.
@@brunoglanzmann4935 I absolutely recommend it...however, different bikes suit different people. It is a great low revving, reasonably priced bike, that is a great commuter, which can handle some light off road, and is super reliable. However, each person needs to decide if a bike suits their needs.
I think I would prefer NC750X but for me, the weight is the deal breaker. I can put my cb500x on hitch carrier and haul it cross country on vacation. NC overloads the hitch receiver capacity. Actually, I can't think of any other bike that I can carry 2000 miles and ride on it another 2000 miles.
That's an honest review! I have a CB500X and, in my opinion, it's a great bike for commuting and medium rides. I own it for two years (2018 model) and couldn't be more happy with it! Never drove an NC but, for sure, is also a great bike, specially the DCT. Congrats from Portugal, mate! 😁👍
@Brendan W For sure it's a great bike for your big ride! It's comfortable, it deals fine with higher average speeds and it has a quite nice aerodynamic protection (in my opinion, I am 1,75 tall). Besides, is a bullet proof bike, never had a single problem throughout these almost 3 years and I ride every day all weather conditions (before pandemic). If you check out Itchi Boots Channel, you'll see that she's riding from Nederland to Iceland, Norway and Sweden with a CB500X. Feel free to ask more questions! 😀🇵🇹
I found the NC very dull after a couple of month, also the gearbox was very cluncky ( donn't know if I write this word correct). The 500 is a lovely bike to play with! That is what I want. I had a Benelli Imperiale before the 500 x which I bought last week. The Benelli was also a very entertaining motorcycle with excellent fuell consumption , 20 miles per liter. In september last year I made a trip to the Nurburgring from my town Zwolle in the Netherlands. It is about 320 km away. I have ridden 1500 km is three days and I enjoyed it very, very much. But the disadvantage on the highway is you can go just a little bit faster than trucks. But on the highway the fuel consumption was even better despite the higher revs! 22.5 miles per liter! But the quality of the chinese parts were not so outstanding except for the engine which I consider surprisingly good! It had 21 HP but it felt more like 30 HP, mostly I drove the engine between 2500 and 4500 revs. The red zone starts at 6000 revs. I try to keep the speed on average roads between 30 and 50 miles. If you get used to this kind of speed you feel relaxed and safe. And sometimes when you travel with a speed of 60 miles it feels fast! With faster bikes you get used to higher speeds and it can cost a lot of money with the laserguns for speed control. And with the large amount of traffic I prefer smaller roads with less traffic, driving smooth and sometimes attacking challenging curves. I am a master of the curves, that's what I like. Most riders cannot follow me on twisty roads but now I am 62 years old and try to ride more safe and keep the speed a little lower, it is still entertaining!
Many thanks for your great and well-balanced review. I've owned my NC750X for six months now and absolutely love it. I use it as an all-purpose bike around town and for trips into the countryside. I really like the frunk as it fits a good amount of groceries. . . at least for one, and can fit enough gear for a weekend trip. I also like the low center of gravity. While I like the DCT option, I find I use the paddle shifters more often than I ever thought I would. I do wish the gas tank were a bit bigger. At any rate, I don't have much to compare this bike to, having come from a very low-powered Honda Wave 125, but from my point of view, it's a top-notch bike and affords a very smooth and comfortable ride.
I've got a '19 model 500x and just love it's versatility. It's great on dirt roads and forestry trails. You make a point of mentioning how easy the air filter change is on the CB, I don't know how hard it is to change is on the NC, but I find the one on the CB a fiddly pain in the arse. I don't know how many bikes I've had in the past 40 years ( I've got 5 in the shed atm) but I've never had to remove the battery and then dig around for unseen screws which always drop into the nether regions of the bike. That's my only gripe, and it pales into insignificance compared to how good the bike is.
had my 2022 500x for a year now and loving it and i am a big guy 6ft 5. Does what it needs to and fine on longer journeys. The seat could do with a more comfortable option though.
CB 500X wins on the basis of dual road versatility. However if you want a bike for the Urban environment, the NC750X with its faux fuel tank you can store your helmet in and a top box for groceries in...? CB500X is the best all rounder.
@@SuperMegaSammy just depends where you use the bike. If you just stick to the tar, city and long distance trips probably the NC750X. If you like doing city trips and some country dirt roads on weekends I'd go for the CB500X which also saves with lower registration fees. Basic Africa Twin serves as a larger version of CB500X.
@@MrAndrew1953 I have taken NC to dirt road with shinko 705 tire last year it was feasible but I did struggle because of the weight. But i did have fun with it, made me sweat it was like a work out.
I don't understand why everyone raves so much about this, when the Honda Deavuille of a couple of decades ago, came with built in x 27.4 litre slim* panniers, completely dwarfing the little under tank storage of the NC750X, yet not many people seemed to care. (slim meaning they made no difference to filtering on a commuting bike as they tucked in behind your legs, unlike modern massive bolt-on panniers which stick out really far)
The answer to your question "Which is better?" depends on any definition of "better", which might reflect ones goals. I would opt for the NC750X for it's unstressed, low revving engine with plenty of low end torque (which doesn't wear you out on very long trips), it's capability to carry a pillion, it's storage trunk and the lower centre of gravity. To me these characteristics add to more versatility. As this versatility substantially contributes to my travelling goals, for me it's better. I think the NC750X is agile and nimble enough for twisty roads, even the smaller mountain roads, but a bit more difficult to handle off-road then the CB500X. However, for me, off-road handling is a minor issue. Sure, in many extra-ordinary circumstances, a low weight bike with ground clearance has significant advantages. For that reason, I love my good old Yamaha XT600E. Wished Honda would make the CB500X at least some 15 kg leighter (or more). I like the looks of the CB500X. The new 2021 version of the NC750X now has a 3 cm lower seat height (80 cm), where the CB500X continues having it's 83 cm. Thank you for your nice and informative video and best of wishes to you both.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff On various other video's of you, you have showed some great selfmade adds for your NC750X, like the radiator and engine protection, and back rack. Is their any drawing and measurements available which you would like to share? Might point me definitevely towards a local dealership in the nearby future to buy one, or a few of these bikes, I hope. Honda's prices are very reasonable, I think, compared to others.
Thx man! Just bought a 2017 cb 500x and i was just wandering if i should go for the Nc. Glad to see u preferred Cb!! Btw, i'm just 165cm tall, so Nc would be too tall
Nice video I like your comparison. I have a NC 700 I did have to lower the bike. Love the bags and trunk plus the frunk . It’s a great compact commuter.
Thanks for doing this video! I've put ~30k commuting miles on a 2015 CB500X, and have long wondered about how the NC compares. I think a slightly bigger/heavier bike would be better on the highway. I also am intrigued by the FRUNK. But surprised by the shorter range and smaller fuel tank! I get ~210-220 miles on a full tank. Also, the valve-check interval on the CB5 is 16k miles, while on the NC it's 8k if I'm not mistaken. So while it's easier to do on the NC (adjuster bolts vs. shims), you have to do it twice as often! :)
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Ah the manual I checked was for the NC700X (www.manualslib.com/manual/1144300/Honda-Nc700x.html?page=43#manual) it shows valve checks every 12k vs. 24k for the CB500X (www.manualslib.com/manual/1043066/Honda-Cb500x.html?page=45#manual)
I still love my Honda CBX 650 E (also called: Nighthawk) four cylinders, smooth and powerfull, secondary shift drive. (no chain). hydraulic clutch. It`s made in 1983, and was more modern, as most others at this time. But it is the CBX Modell, not the CB 650 C. I love your videos, to see the green Australia. Not the Outback. Greetings from sw germany.
I remember looking at bikes back in '83. The Honda 650 Nighthawk was a gorgeous bike. Felt great to ride. The 700 Nighthawks S was even cooler looking. Both shaft drive. I like the twisty turnies too much to go with shaft drive, so I got a Suzuki GS 750 ES. The only 750 that could keep up with me was the Honda Interceptor or the Kawasaki GPZ Turbo.
Since I own a NC700S and a NC750S my opinion is of course biased. However my 2013 NC700S has now 100.000km completed with flawless performance, still running like day one. I wonder how many CB 500 owners are out there and how their long ( and I mean really long term) experiences are. I constantly roll back my eyes when people talk about 10.000km 'long term' ......reviews. I don't really baby my bikes, nonetheless they seem to be pretty much indestructible. Also once you got 'frunk spoiled' only professional therapy can help you to ever accept any other bike. Safe rides 👍🏍
andree hammerschmidt - glad you love yours. The 500x also has a good history of reliability. Here is a review from another in Oz, who has done 100,000km on his 500x czcams.com/video/V3hjWUGw1Uo/video.html
Ien murray I do check the valve clearance usually in accordance to the shop manual or a bit sooner. My timing chain and tensioner are still the first and I only check them visually and by feel if the chain is still tight. The bike is now between 104 and 105 thousand km and is actually also still on the first clutch. Ironically I bought a new clutch, waterpump, cam chain tensioner around the 75000 km mark just in case....funny, funny, now those parts are collecting dust.......thanks Honda. ( as an excuse I need to say that I live in Central America and parts can take some time to get, therefore I took the decision to stock up ....) I do change the oil and filter anywhere between 3 and 4 thousand km and only use full synthetic oil 10w/40 At 102.000km I changed the injectors also just because I had new ones at home. Biggest flaw on this bike by far is the suspension, back shock has been replaced twice already and front fork springs are getting weaker. I do ride most of the time with my wife as a passenger. That might really take a toll on the rear suspension. Also wheel bearings have been changed twice already, both front and back. Roads here are not all paved. Air filter is charged after about six months. That's pretty much it. Safe rides 👍🏍💪
I had the NC first and after a couple of month I found the NC very boring to ride. Now I have the new 2022 CB 500 , what a big difference! This 500 is pure fun in all kinds of driving, maybe long trips on the highway the NC maybe the King. But I prefer the 500, it is a nice piece of playing toy! The whole drive is so much more entertaining and the gearbox is very smooth to operate. The seat position is more active. My speed is mostly between 35 and 50 miles per hour. I ride country roads the most, highway driving very little. I am a fast rider by nature but I prefer safe riding, sometimes I take smaller roads with a lot of curves and than the speed can sometimes go to 90 miles per hour, even through challenging curves! I consider my CB 500 X the nicest toy I have ever owned!
That was a great review (We own a 2012 NC700x DCT and a 2017 NC750x DCT). With the updated 19 inch front wheel the CB500x is even more attractive. For me it boils down to this: If you need the frunk or/and the DCT, it is NC - but if you can live without it, then it is the CB500x now.
Gravitational constant makes the NC750X better form me. Add in a finicky reconstructed left knee which is no longer fond of shifting. Only issue seat hight but lowering kit and sending the forks up through the triple clamps about an inch is the problem solver
Love your essy going humor and wit. Makes it enjoyable to watch nearly Amy of your content. Would you happen to know if the 19 inch front wheel of the CB500X fits the NC750X?
Good question. I know the CB axle is smaller dia than the NC on the older models like Wendy’s and the wheel casting outside dia for the bearings are the same as NC so replacing the bearings would make it fit.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Thank you. I've changed the links in the rear to a shorter one. That has given a lift of the rear wheel of approx 5-6cms. Or rather it pushes the rear down 5-6 cms for added height. So if I could change the front wheel to a 19 inch I should get 'back in balance' and possibly also get better gravel handling? Love the bike. Just wish to make this small change to it. 🛵
Hey NC750X Stuff, Great review. I have 2019 NC750X and 2018 CB500X in my garage. Both for different purposes. Just came off 2017 Versys 650 LT and before that 2016 Vstrom 650. NCX and CBX are the best for how I ride. Thanks from the Smokey MTN of Tennessee.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Thanks NC750X Stuff, loved the Vstroms 2014 1000 and two 650's but top heavy and bland. Versys, a blast to ride with road 5 tire's but hard maintenance. Have take everything off to work on. Painful. The NCX is easy maintenance and your videos helped me tremendously. Thanks and praying for Australia my friend.
Vision Strom14 - thanks for your thoughts. The fires are starting to come under control but it’s still a long time till the end of summer. We are fine were we live even though it’s semi rural and close to a lot of forest.
How do you find the tank range on the NC750X compared to the Versys 650? The NC750X tank is MUCH smaller, but it's also supposedly much more economical so it shouldn't matter. I'm a little sceptical of that claim though, and i like range between fillups.
helpful, thanks I'm 195 cm, so your advice is valuable I just wonder if I should spend the big buck for a VFR 1200 X - I might crave the power of the big engine if I get the NC 750 X, although I'm not an experienced rider and I don't plan on doing long trips. What you think?
Unless you are buying for business reasons, we all mostly buy a bike “from the heart” not “the head”. From all reports the 1200X is an excellent - but very heavy - bike. It will be quite a bit more expensive to buy and to own. But in the end you should go with your heart.
I like the low down chug of the NC engine, and the glove box. Would love a larger tank though... I think the NC is a little more planted at (slight cough...) highway appropriate speeds... Thanks Adrian.
I worked for almost 30 years for the Detroit Tigers Baseball team Ground crew and Maintenance dept. and got quite friendly with the police who were stationed there and some rode motor cycles. and i asked them what they would recommend and they told me not too buy anything under a 750 that way if you got into any kind of trouble out on the road you would have enough power too get out of it. i eventually bought a Harley 883 and if i had it too do over again i would have bought the 750. thinking of trading mine for a good used one.
Robert Rockwell - what ridiculous advice! Many 250cc bikes are faster than a Harley 883. It’s really got little to do with just engine size. Thanks for your comments.
just in addition: The new cb500x comes with a 83cm seat height and more offroad abilities due to its larger front wheel. They also increased the tank volume to 17.7 litres and built in an anti hopping clutch as well. Currently i am between both bikes, its hard to decide... it would be my first real motorcycle (currently owning Honda SH125i)
Thank you for that great review. Sub'd & T-up !!! I have watched most of your videos and therefore hope to be buying a 2022 NC-DCT. After a long test ride, it makes the most sense for this senior citizen. BTW the dealer ship wants $500 to adjust the valves on a CB500 and over $650 to adjust the valves on a 4 cylinder engine. PLEASE...How do you go about taking care of the chain. My past ...with ~ 200,000 miles on BMWs. I did all maintenance. I have been reading and thinking about possible chain upkeep. Seems like all one has to do is knock of the grime with a brush or old rags, then apply Maxima Chain wax. Seems like just the outside of the chain needs to have crud removed. Since it is a sealed O-Ring type chain.... makes sense that one would not want to disturb or weaken the internal lube???? YOUR Wise and and considered thoughts are MOST appreciated !!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!! I have experience with wax from years of racing bicycles. Wax was the very best solution . All others were about the same as grinding compound after a few miles. AND a waxed chain is not affected by rain! It was an AMAZING FIND! WHAT SAY YOU?
Its a good comparation but i have remark on few things. First power, nc has in this moment about 8 hp more than cb 500 and its 750cc bike which makes a significant diffrence when it comes to driving. Cb is a skinny and light bike and this characteristic is something that definitely bothers when you want to drive it on a highway, wind protection is minimal and unstable. And about after market accessories, i think they are pretty much the same but slightly advantaged for nc 750 at least from mine experience. Cheers.
Nice review, well half of it you did just say the same numbers from on bikes perspective and then same in reverse :D If A bigger than B then B indeed is smaller than A!
Excellent side by side comparison. Agree with your thoughts and conclusion, the X "just" wins, and probably mostly on value for money and the longer range tank.
I like to think of the NC's engine as a cruiser in an adventure frame. It's just very relaxed and under-stressed. To anyone who wants a low revving locomotive, that's the bike. The throttle happy crowd, however, will find the CB more appealing.
FirstLight Adv - torque x revs = power. So power is really the only real comparison in my opinion. Also the “half jazz engine” is an urban myth made up to denigrate the NC. Regardless .. this is just my opinion and of course I’m no expert.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I thought the half-jazz engine was a compliment! I own 2 honda jazz'es and riding the torque of nc750x sort of reminded me to it .. fat low rpm torque and fuel economy to die for
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I always thought the nc link to to the jazz engine was was an odd one. I have owned and ridden a nc700 integra for a year and also own a 2011 Honda jazz with the vtech engine. The engines behave completely differently. The Nc700 engine has loads of torque but the jazz has to be screamed to get power. Anyway I agree probably an urban myth as mentioned. Good video!
torn between these two bikes. Currently ride a 96 ST1100 ..but getting a bit heavy for me now. I have test ridden an older (non 19 inch front wheel) and liked it but have had no luck in testing out a NC of any year. which is the the most similar to the ST? Thanks
Now that Honda has lowered the height, ground clearance of the NCX, the CB500X is a far more versatile bike, better suited to a variety of Australian conditions.
I’m not so tall (171cm), so I will probably choose the one with lower seats. I will use it to do courier jobs in the city, but I’m not sure which to buy, any tips? I’m currently riding a 2020 Forza 300cc, but I can barely keep it above 65mpg (uk), which’s nothing for a small engine. I’m thinking to switch it for one of those in the vídeo, any tips guys? I really like the dct version, but the smaller tank is annoying as I ride around 700miles each week
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I was thinking about the nc750s, is the seat comfortable like in the X? I’m asking this cause I tried the seat of the cb500x and cb500r and the seat contort is soooooooo different buddy (100 times better on X model). But I’ve never tried the seats on nc models
Do you think the CB500X is suitable for long distances like 8000 km +- for one trip? Now I am trying to choose between NC750x manual and CB500X, both are beautiful. I'm 178 cm, 83 inseam.
Hello :) I am 187cm tall with about 80kg. NC should be better choice since CB is a bit too small for me, correct? Also i just got my motorcycle license.
Spirited engine? Hmmm ... I test rode a Versys 650 a day after after a test ride on the NC750X and was completely underwhelmed by it! Maybe it was just that specific Versys that didn't want to go! So I bought the NC.
Stephen Lang , I am comparing the ‘11 Versys I bought and my neighbors 700x. His bike had a low redline and very basic suspension. The Versys easily lofted the front wheel, and screamed in the upper revs that didn’t even exist on the Honda. Maybe the 750 is vastly improved. I wish I would have liked the Honda. Closest dealer only carries Honda.
@@Dave-sw2dm Early 2019, I tested a CB500X & an almost new NC700X (849 miles). Had the opportunity to buy the NC for $4800. I LOVED the NC but, even as a brand new rider I knew I couldn't deal with the rev limiter so I bought a Versys 650 instead, which I teally like. About 6 mo later I had the opportunity to test ride the NC750X at the IMS & LOVED IT even more than the 700. It was such a smooth, zippy & comfortable ride. I kind of regretted having bought the Versys. Then I (mostly) got over it. It usually only bothers me when I drop or almost drop the top heavy Versys.
As you know we have both bikes as well and I agree, all round the CB500X is the better bike especially considering the cheaper purchase price. The one big plus for me about the NC750X is that it has smoother throttle response than the CB500X. If I had my money again I would probably buy the CB500X over the NC750X as I believe it would be a better option for off-roading as a newbie to dirt than the NC750X.......but I will hold on to the NC750X as all things considered it's a damn good bike. Nice video Adrian, thanks.
Placepics - yep. I feel similar. I’d probably buy the new CB if I had my time over. BUT I’m very happy with the NC for the riding we do, so no plans to replace it.
What is the millage at high way speeds of 110 km or ( 70 miles per hour.) those are what is need on long tours on the highway. My KTM 390 Adventure will give me 2.8 to 3.3 liters at 80 Km per hour. but as soon as you get around 100 Km 60 miles per hour it drops way off that, At 80 Km I can get well over 420 Km per tank at 100 Km lucky to get 300 km per tank Just from going form 80 km to just over 90 km seen over 40 Km drop per tank and then down to 60 Km drop per tank. and those were on about 3/4 to 1/2 tank of gas in it at the time. I am looking for a bike that will give me 400 + km per tank of gas at 110 Km per hour. will the 500 x do that.
Location of the fuel cap and little fuel tank put NC750 down. I wish to see it's re-make with +20l tank and fuel cap in more accessible location. CB500 is a small'ish bike. Does well on short commute, but anything over 1h ride make you think twice. So far XT660Z with 350 miles tank range is unbeatable. But large single isn't most comfortable to cruise :( So XT(CB)500Z would be a nice solution :D ...oh! They call it Kawasaki Versys :D
Ive had both, currently own a 2016 DCT NC750x. My 2015 CB500x when i owned it, i got 76mpg average over 3,800 miles(uk figures). Not had the Honda NC750x DCT very long, but im getting between 82-91mpg(approx 10mpg more than the CB500x). The NC750x is a much better feeling bike, the weight helps it feel very stable with a low centre of gravity. DCT gearbox makes the bike a pleasure to ride, it handles better, i felt the CB500x was wallowing in it's front suspension handling and felt a cheaper bike. I'd recommend the NC750x over the CB500x
they did a big improvement with cb500x 2022 model. better suspension and handling, 2 disc brakes, no shaking. overall it doesn't feel cheap as the previous one
@@chrisw4215 Agreed the 2022 looks really nice and matured platform. However, the new price is only $500 cheaper than brand new 2021 NC750X (manual) in my area. The used prices for NC700X and CB500X are very similar, even though the NC started out as a more expensive bike.
What speeds did you typically ride at to get that kind of fuel economy?
Speed limit in Aus is max of 110 kph.
We tour on the speed limits
Thank you for that helpful comparison test. However, I think, with respect, you may have left out the single thing that makes it hard for me to think of giving up my NC750X: stability in strong winds. I do a lot of touring in Europe (not at the moment!) and I have found some really good bikes (like the V-Strom for instance) can be pretty scary in those strong winds on the Spanish plains (for example). I went to a faired Bandit which was great with its heavy, low down weight but I have long legs and I'm old and I couldn't put up with the cramped position. The NC is simply astonishingly stable in strong winds because of the position of the fuel tank. You would never expect it from a relatively tall bike, but it really is planted.
Hey there I currently ride a Vstrom 650 and was looking at switching to a 2015 nc750xa. Wondering your opinion overall. I don’t do any off roading for reference.
I agree with you, the other day I tested a NC750x DCT in strong winds ( as usual here in the strait of Gibraltar) and performed very well
this is really good to know, thank you. i recently took a trip through the desert in nevada on a tiger 800 and holy $&!:)...someone i was riding with took pity on my situation and let me ride their T120. huge difference...passed over turned semi trucks...but the lower cg and maybe less surface area made a huge difference in what was probably 50 mph constant crosswinds.
@@eggsandbakey1 So in hindsight, would you have preferred the T120 over the tiger 800 if you were to buy between the two again?
@@Sunz-me5mo I'd probably go for the T120 and if I thought I might take it on some gravel roads, put some 80/20 tires on it. I think the T120, for what I would do with it, is the most versatile, which might seem odd because the Tiger is an ADV bike...city riding, the T120. Occasional touring on the weekend or maybe a little longer trips, the T120 (more stable really, still pretty comfortable). Occasional riding on gravel back roads, 80/20 tires on the T120 and call it a day.
i own a CB 2019 larger wheel upfront, taller at the seat, slip clutch etc, for the price and the ride and the insurance and running cost the cb 500x is a no brainer the NC does not offer enough difference for the price here in the uk. Just my humble opinion.
Very nice comparison, well done. I like both bikes as well, though at 2m/97.5kg i have to have the NC. Last year i traded my 12' NCx for a really nice 15' NC700DCT and man do i love it! There is only one drawback that i have been able to see(imho) and that is that i was able to pull better mpg's with the 700x than i can with the dct. Beside that, i enjoy everything about the dct. It handles mountain roads, logging roads, miles of gravel and chews up tarmac like there is no tomorrow! I have held off buying an ST1300 as the NC does all of that and gets better mpg. I have also held off buying a CRF300L as the NC handles all of those places that i would go and ride with it anyway... So, the NC really is an amazingly versatile bike in every way! Enjoy the many smiles per mile the two of you can Mate. Cheers! :{)
I am the happy owner of an NC and apart from the seat am VERY happy with it. If I could go back in time I would buy the DCT version as it suits the engine characteristics and the sort of rides I am doing. I thought the dct would be too complicated given I live over 250km from my nearest dealer. I found out later that the whole NC range including dct is completely bulletproof and I had nothing to worry about.
Hopefully my "investment" in a Shad seat will pay dividends when winter is finally over.
Might i add yet another difference that might be interesting to some: center of gravity!
Due to the engine lying flat on the very low end of the NC, the center of gravity is ridiculously low which makes low speed handling in the city a breeze. Thats also the reason why, in my opinion at least, the even heavier DCT version carries its weight very easily.
To me personally, being a 185cm 95kilo chunk of austrian meatball, the center of gravity + the frunk + the DCT are killer features which pushed out all other bikes that i considered.
MegaloGater - excellent point and one I should have noted. Thanks.
Thank you very much for this great video. I really enjoy your movies and I highly appreciate the work that you put into them. This was a great comparison and if I had a wife that wants to drive a bike too I‘d get her an CB500X. I fell in love with my NC750X with DCT about 3 years ago. With the easy handling, the high torque at low rpm, the reliability, the frunk and the DCT it is just ideal for me too. Please continue your great movies. Best wishes from Germany where it is just a little cold to drive my NC.
loewchen2000 - thanks mate. Please send some “cold” here. It’s going to be 38c here Saturday and Sunday 🥵
Thank you for the comparison!
I had a 2019 CB500X for about a year (and 15000 km), my first bike. I left it yesterday at the dealer, who lent me a test ride bike until my new one arrives on Friday. I was looking for an upgrade, but had this impression that the NC750x wouldn't be far apart from my CB, and you confirmed it. I ended up getting a V-Strom 650 XT. There is no free lunch though. With a feather wrist, the loaner made 23km/l in my commute today, the 500 was an easy 30km/l even with a heavier wrist. The recommended oil changes (12k km vs 6k km) and spark plug replacement (2 every 24k km vs 4 every 12k km!) will also cost more. But boy does it feel different, comfort and punch wise!
Hi buddy. You prefer the Vstrom to the CB? Im asking cuz I was actually deciding in between the CB, the NC and the Vstrom 650. Im 1,92m and 115kgs.
I was never a Suzuki fan until the Vstrom. I saw the Vstrom 250 a few days ago and I loved it. 6800€ in Portugal brand new.
That was an excellent report. Thanks.
I have a NC700X and the "Frunk", that storage area where the gas tank usually is, has me totally spoiled.
Great gas mileage and I like the taller seat.
I am at that age where the frunk is useful not just for my map, phone, sandwiches, flask of tea, spare thick gloves and scarf but also for my spare specs, my bifocals (small writing on maps) and my old varifocals (in case I need to see something on the bike at exactly the wrong distance for my distance lens and my reading lens). Presbyopia sucks big time but the NC never fails to impress. Hard to imagine being frunkless now...
I really liked this feature when I had a Zero SR. It was very useful.
do you recommend the bike ?
@@brunoglanzmann4935 Yup. It's been good. There's some things that I would like to change like the size of the pillion seat, make the suspension more adjustable. It could be a little lighter. But it's a good all-arounder and super dependable. 70mpg. Great on the road and fair on trails.
I don't understand why everyone raves so much about this, when the Honda Deavuille of a couple of decades ago, came with built in x 27.4 litre slim* panniers, completely dwarfing the little under tank storage of the NC750X, yet not many people seemed to care.
(slim meaning they made no difference to filtering on a commuting bike as they tucked in behind your legs, unlike modern massive bolt-on panniers which stick out really far)
Thanks for doing this comparison review. I had 2015 model cb500x and I sold it because I was bored with it. I had few different motorbikes since and now I am regretting my decision. It was good in everything and excellent in nothing (other than fuel economy). It was by far most versatile motorbike I ever had.
I hear you on that. I have a CBR500R with full bolt-ons and a tune. Despite this the bike is still a bit underwhelming in the performance department, faster than a Ninja 400 but slower than I'd like. Still, the reliability, comfort, and fuel efficiency means that I'll be keeping my CBR500R for a long time.
Versys 650
5 years ago I sold a Honda NTV650 1988 to buy the NC750 2014. It was my main disappointment in modern motorcycles. I was lucky to buy my motorcycle back a few years later. Now I'm thinking about CB500x (400x) as a second motorcycle.
During this time, I had a lot of different things - from Hornet 250 to CB1300 and FZ-1, from VT750 to NX650.
Great to see an Aussie review
Love my 500x, cheers mate
Thank you for the useful comparison. Great insight...😃👍
Both bikes are good, especially the new CB with 19" front tyre , but I would still choose NC because of storage and consumption.
Good video and thanks for sharing
Great review. The new 23 still has a single front brake disc as opposed to the dual one on the new 500x now with new upside down Showa forks. Would love to see this great review updated with the 2023 versions, both very different bikes.
I went to the dealer for the CB and ended up with the NC. I tried both and I had no doubts at all.
I think the nc has the edge for commuters, like me. The storage compartment is so practical and the bike looks so clean when I have clothes for change and laptop with me...
I tend to do solo short trips away, of less than a week. With a top box and the frunk of the NC and having a DCT version it's ideal for me.
I bought my 2015 new in 2018. The discount solidified the deal for me. I never rode a cb so I guess I'll take your word for it. My NC is stuck with me though.
Just got my first bike!!! Cb500x!! I LOVE IT!! Thank you for sharing your journeys with us!! You had allot to do with my choice!! 👍😀😀😀😀
Best wishes for your new adventures
I find myself leaning toward the bigger fuel capicity in the CB but I really want a DCT bike... Really a tough choice between the two for sure..
Thank you for this very informative video - Brilliant videography!
Thanks mate. Appreciated 🤗
Thank you for taking the time comparing and contrasting these two excellent bikes.Outstanding job!👍👍
Thanks for the excellent comparison. I'd recently been considering the differences between these two models.
Nice video as always! Comparing the specs of both bikes I cannot understand now why we have only 14 liters fuel tank on the NC750X and why the bike it's so heavy. I also noticed that the CB500X , at least the new model, it's more customisable for off road riding/enduro riding, it has a much more variaty of accessories for it. Perhaps Honda calculated for both a manufacturer cost optimisation to be able to offer a good value for money. If I would choose again I would go stil with the NC because of the DCT. Greetings!
> "I cannot understand now why we have only 14 liters fuel tank on the NC750X"
Because they put a storage compartment where the fuel tank usually goes. No room left for a bigger tank.
(Personally i think it's a daft idea, built-in slim panniers like the Deauville had makes more sense in my opinion.)
Gracias por su video, estaba con dudas entre la NC y la CB, creo que por peso y opciones off road, elijo la CB500XA, quizá en un futuro la cambie por una NC o una versys cuando la mejoren un poco!
Good presentation, thanks.
As a long legged 230# lad the NC750X is the better fit.
My riding style on fire roads is to putt-putt along seeing the sights camera at the ready.
Cheers!!
Thanks for sharing. Helpful to me.
Good review !! I would add that the 270 degree crank shaft motor of the Nc produces a very nice rewarding tone
almost v twin like wich I love
Richard Blanchet - good point. I also love this.
As you get older, NC low rev torque with up gear happy DCT is a pleasure. This combined with storage and decent suspension and riding position, has brought back in town riding to me.
I had the CB500 first, but the low end torque of the NC750x far better suits my driving style. And yeah...I'm somewhat chunky as well ... lol
Garth Howe - yes, us chunkies have to stick together.
Do you recommend nc 750x ?
@@brunoglanzmann4935 I absolutely recommend it...however, different bikes suit different people. It is a great low revving, reasonably priced bike, that is a great commuter, which can handle some light off road, and is super reliable. However, each person needs to decide if a bike suits their needs.
Have got cb500f and thinking to buy nc750x.
I think I would prefer NC750X but for me, the weight is the deal breaker. I can put my cb500x on hitch carrier and haul it cross country on vacation. NC overloads the hitch receiver capacity. Actually, I can't think of any other bike that I can carry 2000 miles and ride on it another 2000 miles.
Thanks a lot brother, much love from ksa
That's an honest review! I have a CB500X and, in my opinion, it's a great bike for commuting and medium rides. I own it for two years (2018 model) and couldn't be more happy with it! Never drove an NC but, for sure, is also a great bike, specially the DCT. Congrats from Portugal, mate! 😁👍
@Brendan W For sure it's a great bike for your big ride! It's comfortable, it deals fine with higher average speeds and it has a quite nice aerodynamic protection (in my opinion, I am 1,75 tall). Besides, is a bullet proof bike, never had a single problem throughout these almost 3 years and I ride every day all weather conditions (before pandemic). If you check out Itchi Boots Channel, you'll see that she's riding from Nederland to Iceland, Norway and Sweden with a CB500X. Feel free to ask more questions! 😀🇵🇹
I found the NC very dull after a couple of month, also the gearbox was very cluncky ( donn't know if I write this word correct). The 500 is a lovely bike to play with! That is what I want. I had a Benelli Imperiale before the 500 x which I bought last week. The Benelli was also a very entertaining motorcycle with excellent fuell consumption , 20 miles per liter. In september last year I made a trip to the Nurburgring from my town Zwolle in the Netherlands. It is about 320 km away. I have ridden 1500 km is three days and I enjoyed it very, very much. But the disadvantage on the highway is you can go just a little bit faster than trucks. But on the highway the fuel consumption was even better despite the higher revs! 22.5 miles per liter! But the quality of the chinese parts were not so outstanding except for the engine which I consider surprisingly good! It had 21 HP but it felt more like 30 HP, mostly I drove the engine between 2500 and 4500 revs. The red zone starts at 6000 revs. I try to keep the speed on average roads between 30 and 50 miles. If you get used to this kind of speed you feel relaxed and safe. And sometimes when you travel with a speed of 60 miles it feels fast! With faster bikes you get used to higher speeds and it can cost a lot of money with the laserguns for speed control. And with the large amount of traffic I prefer smaller roads with less traffic, driving smooth and sometimes attacking challenging curves. I am a master of the curves, that's what I like. Most riders cannot follow me on twisty roads but now I am 62 years old and try to ride more safe and keep the speed a little lower, it is still entertaining!
Many thanks for your great and well-balanced review. I've owned my NC750X for six months now and absolutely love it. I use it as an all-purpose bike around town and for trips into the countryside. I really like the frunk as it fits a good amount of groceries. . . at least for one, and can fit enough gear for a weekend trip. I also like the low center of gravity. While I like the DCT option, I find I use the paddle shifters more often than I ever thought I would. I do wish the gas tank were a bit bigger. At any rate, I don't have much to compare this bike to, having come from a very low-powered Honda Wave 125, but from my point of view, it's a top-notch bike and affords a very smooth and comfortable ride.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Are the paddles shifters responsive?
I’ve had both dct NC,and now the X no difference except it’s lighter for me now I’m a bit older, Miss the trunk thing though
Love you guys.
I've got a '19 model 500x and just love it's versatility.
It's great on dirt roads and forestry trails.
You make a point of mentioning how easy the air filter change is on the CB, I don't know how hard it is to change is on the NC, but I find the one on the CB a fiddly pain in the arse.
I don't know how many bikes I've had in the past 40 years ( I've got 5 in the shed atm) but I've never had to remove the battery and then dig around for unseen screws which always drop into the nether regions of the bike.
That's my only gripe, and it pales into insignificance compared to how good the bike is.
turbofan67 - thanks mate. Air filter? Compared to the NC the air filter is a breeze on the CB 😃
But yes the CB still involves a big of faffing.
had my 2022 500x for a year now and loving it and i am a big guy 6ft 5. Does what it needs to and fine on longer journeys. The seat could do with a more comfortable option though.
CB 500X wins on the basis of dual road versatility. However if you want a bike for the Urban environment, the NC750X with its faux fuel tank you can store your helmet in and a top box for groceries in...? CB500X is the best all rounder.
I have NC700 DCT since 2012 with 55,000 mile but im low key jealous of CB500X versatility.
@@SuperMegaSammy just depends where you use the bike. If you just stick to the tar, city and long distance trips probably the NC750X. If you like doing city trips and some country dirt roads on weekends I'd go for the CB500X which also saves with lower registration fees. Basic Africa Twin serves as a larger version of CB500X.
@@MrAndrew1953 I have taken NC to dirt road with shinko 705 tire last year it was feasible but I did struggle because of the weight. But i did have fun with it, made me sweat it was like a work out.
I don't understand why everyone raves so much about this, when the Honda Deavuille of a couple of decades ago, came with built in x 27.4 litre slim* panniers, completely dwarfing the little under tank storage of the NC750X, yet not many people seemed to care.
(slim meaning they made no difference to filtering on a commuting bike as they tucked in behind your legs, unlike modern massive bolt-on panniers which stick out really far)
The answer to your question "Which is better?" depends on any definition of "better", which might reflect ones goals. I would opt for the NC750X for it's unstressed, low revving engine with plenty of low end torque (which doesn't wear you out on very long trips), it's capability to carry a pillion, it's storage trunk and the lower centre of gravity. To me these characteristics add to more versatility. As this versatility substantially contributes to my travelling goals, for me it's better. I think the NC750X is agile and nimble enough for twisty roads, even the smaller mountain roads, but a bit more difficult to handle off-road then the CB500X. However, for me, off-road handling is a minor issue. Sure, in many extra-ordinary circumstances, a low weight bike with ground clearance has significant advantages. For that reason, I love my good old Yamaha XT600E. Wished Honda would make the CB500X at least some 15 kg leighter (or more). I like the looks of the CB500X. The new 2021 version of the NC750X now has a 3 cm lower seat height (80 cm), where the CB500X continues having it's 83 cm. Thank you for your nice and informative video and best of wishes to you both.
You are correct of course. No bike is “better” than another.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff On various other video's of you, you have showed some great selfmade adds for your NC750X, like the radiator and engine protection, and back rack. Is their any drawing and measurements available which you would like to share? Might point me definitevely towards a local dealership in the nearby future to buy one, or a few of these bikes, I hope. Honda's prices are very reasonable, I think, compared to others.
@@butch1035 unfortunately they are all made by “eye”, making it up as I go.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff With very good results. Well done!
Good review. Thanks.
You make the best videos, really,,,, i bet you can have adventures with both together 😉
Thanks mate. Very kind. Any yes to your bet.
Thx man! Just bought a 2017 cb 500x and i was just wandering if i should go for the Nc. Glad to see u preferred Cb!! Btw, i'm just 165cm tall, so Nc would be too tall
Buy some Frankenstein boots.
Thank God it happened. English subtitles that can be translated. Many thanks!!!
Nice video I like your comparison. I have a NC 700 I did have to lower the bike. Love the bags and trunk plus the frunk . It’s a great compact commuter.
Thanks for doing this video! I've put ~30k commuting miles on a 2015 CB500X, and have long wondered about how the NC compares. I think a slightly bigger/heavier bike would be better on the highway. I also am intrigued by the FRUNK. But surprised by the shorter range and smaller fuel tank! I get ~210-220 miles on a full tank. Also, the valve-check interval on the CB5 is 16k miles, while on the NC it's 8k if I'm not mistaken. So while it's easier to do on the NC (adjuster bolts vs. shims), you have to do it twice as often! :)
Jim Gourgoutis - the service intervals for standard service on the NC are 12,000km and the valves at 24,000km.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Ah the manual I checked was for the NC700X (www.manualslib.com/manual/1144300/Honda-Nc700x.html?page=43#manual) it shows valve checks every 12k vs. 24k for the CB500X (www.manualslib.com/manual/1043066/Honda-Cb500x.html?page=45#manual)
I still love my Honda CBX 650 E (also called: Nighthawk)
four cylinders, smooth and powerfull, secondary shift drive. (no chain).
hydraulic clutch.
It`s made in 1983, and was more modern, as most others at this time.
But it is the CBX Modell, not the CB 650 C.
I love your videos, to see the green Australia.
Not the Outback.
Greetings from sw germany.
I remember looking at bikes back in '83. The Honda 650 Nighthawk was a gorgeous bike. Felt great to ride. The 700 Nighthawks S was even cooler looking. Both shaft drive. I like the twisty turnies too much to go with shaft drive, so I got a Suzuki GS 750 ES. The only 750 that could keep up with me was the Honda Interceptor or the Kawasaki GPZ Turbo.
I watched this with interest ... well done! ... Thank you! ... one thing you did not say: BOTH bikes look REAL GREAT! :-)
Since I own a NC700S and a NC750S my opinion is of course biased. However my 2013 NC700S has now 100.000km completed with flawless performance, still running like day one. I wonder how many CB 500 owners are out there and how their long ( and I mean really long term) experiences are.
I constantly roll back my eyes when people talk about 10.000km 'long term' ......reviews. I don't really baby my bikes, nonetheless they seem to be pretty much indestructible. Also once you got 'frunk spoiled' only professional therapy can help you to ever accept any other bike.
Safe rides 👍🏍
andree hammerschmidt - glad you love yours. The 500x also has a good history of reliability.
Here is a review from another in Oz, who has done 100,000km on his 500x
czcams.com/video/V3hjWUGw1Uo/video.html
Ien murray
I do check the valve clearance usually in accordance to the shop manual or a bit sooner. My timing chain and tensioner are still the first and I only check them visually and by feel if the chain is still tight.
The bike is now between 104 and 105 thousand km and is actually also still on the first clutch. Ironically I bought a new clutch, waterpump, cam chain tensioner around the 75000 km mark just in case....funny, funny, now those parts are collecting dust.......thanks Honda.
( as an excuse I need to say that I live in Central America and parts can take some time to get, therefore I took the decision to stock up ....)
I do change the oil and filter anywhere between 3 and 4 thousand km and only use full synthetic oil 10w/40
At 102.000km I changed the injectors also just because I had new ones at home.
Biggest flaw on this bike by far is the suspension, back shock has been replaced twice already and front fork springs are getting weaker. I do ride most of the time with my wife as a passenger. That might really take a toll on the rear suspension. Also wheel bearings have been changed twice already, both front and back.
Roads here are not all paved.
Air filter is charged after about six months. That's pretty much it.
Safe rides 👍🏍💪
I had the NC first and after a couple of month I found the NC very boring to ride. Now I have the new 2022 CB 500 , what a big difference! This 500 is pure fun in all kinds of driving, maybe long trips on the highway the NC maybe the King. But I prefer the 500, it is a nice piece of playing toy! The whole drive is so much more entertaining and the gearbox is very smooth to operate. The seat position is more active. My speed is mostly between 35 and 50 miles per hour. I ride country roads the most, highway driving very little. I am a fast rider by nature but I prefer safe riding, sometimes I take smaller roads with a lot of curves and than the speed can sometimes go to 90 miles per hour, even through challenging curves! I consider my CB 500 X the nicest toy I have ever owned!
That was a great review (We own a 2012 NC700x DCT and a 2017 NC750x DCT). With the updated 19 inch front wheel the CB500x is even more attractive. For me it boils down to this: If you need the frunk or/and the DCT, it is NC - but if you can live without it, then it is the CB500x now.
overboost7667 - yep. Good summary.
Gravitational constant makes the NC750X better form me. Add in a finicky reconstructed left knee which is no longer fond of shifting. Only issue seat hight but lowering kit and sending the forks up through the triple clamps about an inch is the problem solver
Good review thks! I may add that the 270 deg crank shaft motor produces à nice tone almost v twin like wich I love
Yes, I wish the CB5X had the 270 deg crank. Still, the V-Strom 650 cures most of the CB5X's ailments.
Love your essy going humor and wit. Makes it enjoyable to watch nearly Amy of your content. Would you happen to know if the 19 inch front wheel of the CB500X fits the NC750X?
Good question. I know the CB axle is smaller dia than the NC on the older models like Wendy’s and the wheel casting outside dia for the bearings are the same as NC so replacing the bearings would make it fit.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Thank you. I've changed the links in the rear to a shorter one. That has given a lift of the rear wheel of approx 5-6cms. Or rather it pushes the rear down 5-6 cms for added height. So if I could change the front wheel to a 19 inch I should get 'back in balance' and possibly also get better gravel handling? Love the bike. Just wish to make this small change to it. 🛵
I agree with the conclusion which is better. NC's only advantage is the space in the fake tank. CB is much more agile and fun to ride...
Разве "NC" не резвее в городской эксплуатации? И разве коробка "DCT", не удобнее в повседневной жизни? Спасибо!
Very nice vid.thx😘
Hey NC750X Stuff,
Great review. I have 2019 NC750X and 2018 CB500X in my garage. Both for different purposes. Just came off 2017 Versys 650 LT and before that 2016 Vstrom 650. NCX and CBX are the best for how I ride. Thanks from the Smokey MTN of Tennessee.
Vision Strom14 - I was interested to read your experience with these other bikes. Thanks for your input.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff
Thanks NC750X Stuff, loved the Vstroms 2014 1000 and two 650's but top heavy and bland. Versys, a blast to ride with road 5 tire's but hard maintenance. Have take everything off to work on. Painful. The NCX is easy maintenance and your videos helped me tremendously. Thanks and praying for Australia my friend.
Vision Strom14 - thanks for your thoughts. The fires are starting to come under control but it’s still a long time till the end of summer.
We are fine were we live even though it’s semi rural and close to a lot of forest.
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Glad to hear, keep up the great work. Facebook: East TN Adventure Riders.
How do you find the tank range on the NC750X compared to the Versys 650?
The NC750X tank is MUCH smaller, but it's also supposedly much more economical so it shouldn't matter. I'm a little sceptical of that claim though, and i like range between fillups.
helpful, thanks
I'm 195 cm, so your advice is valuable
I just wonder if I should spend the big buck for a VFR 1200 X - I might crave the power of the big engine if I get the NC 750 X, although I'm not an experienced rider and I don't plan on doing long trips. What you think?
Unless you are buying for business reasons, we all mostly buy a bike “from the heart” not “the head”.
From all reports the 1200X is an excellent - but very heavy - bike. It will be quite a bit more expensive to buy and to own. But in the end you should go with your heart.
Good owner review
I like the low down chug of the NC engine, and the glove box. Would love a larger tank though...
I think the NC is a little more planted at (slight cough...) highway appropriate speeds...
Thanks Adrian.
The NC 750X has Also a space for the helment where the Cb 500x forces you to bring It with you. Or am I wrong?
NC seat height is now down to 800mm in 2021 model and later. Weight has been reduced too with a new chassis
I worked for almost 30 years for the Detroit Tigers Baseball team Ground crew and Maintenance dept. and got quite friendly with the police who were stationed there and some rode motor cycles. and i asked them what they would recommend and they told me not too buy anything under a 750 that way if you got into any kind of trouble out on the road you would have enough power too get out of it. i eventually bought a Harley 883 and if i had it too do over again i would have bought the 750. thinking of trading mine for a good used one.
Robert Rockwell - what ridiculous advice! Many 250cc bikes are faster than a Harley 883. It’s really got little to do with just engine size.
Thanks for your comments.
just in addition: The new cb500x comes with a 83cm seat height and more offroad abilities due to its larger front wheel. They also increased the tank volume to 17.7 litres and built in an anti hopping clutch as well. Currently i am between both bikes, its hard to decide... it would be my first real motorcycle (currently owning Honda SH125i)
Chalbi K. - yes the new CB is a real contender if you don’t need DCT and would be my choice if I was buying again.
Thank you for that great review. Sub'd & T-up !!!
I have watched most of your videos and therefore hope to be buying a 2022 NC-DCT. After a long test ride, it makes the most sense for this senior citizen. BTW the dealer ship wants $500 to adjust the valves on a CB500 and over $650 to adjust the valves on a 4 cylinder engine.
PLEASE...How do you go about taking care of the chain. My past ...with ~ 200,000 miles on BMWs. I did all maintenance. I have been reading and thinking about possible chain upkeep. Seems like all one has to do is knock of the grime with a brush or old rags, then apply Maxima Chain wax. Seems like just the outside of the chain needs to have crud removed. Since it is a sealed O-Ring type chain.... makes sense that one would not want to disturb or weaken the internal lube???? YOUR Wise and and considered thoughts are MOST appreciated !!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!!
I have experience with wax from years of racing bicycles. Wax was the very best solution . All others were about the same as grinding compound after a few miles. AND a waxed chain is not affected by rain! It was an AMAZING FIND! WHAT SAY YOU?
Thanks mate. I agree with your chain maintenance approach.
Its a good comparation but i have remark on few things. First power, nc has in this moment about 8 hp more than cb 500 and its 750cc bike which makes a significant diffrence when it comes to driving.
Cb is a skinny and light bike and this characteristic is something that definitely bothers when you want to drive it on a highway, wind protection is minimal and unstable.
And about after market accessories, i think they are pretty much the same but slightly advantaged for nc 750 at least from mine experience. Cheers.
Nice review, well half of it you did just say the same numbers from on bikes perspective and then same in reverse :D If A bigger than B then B indeed is smaller than A!
Excellent side by side comparison. Agree with your thoughts and conclusion, the X "just" wins, and probably mostly on value for money and the longer range tank.
CaptainCranky - thanks mate. It was your 100,000km review that prompted this video.
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battery is still a paid to get to ? Gassing up. you have to get off and lift ? DCT is a plus but paying for it. Need 3" higher seat on the 500x.
Nice Video.
Thanks for the good review . Please buy a VFR 800x crossrunner and add it to the review.
wish the VFR800x Crossrunner was available in the USA
Which is comfortable
I always wondered why they did not put at least 60 hp on the NC....
I don’t know about insurance but the road tax in UK for a 401-600 cc is £66 per year; for above 600cc it is £91 per year.
It’s a similar system in Oz.
I like to think of the NC's engine as a cruiser in an adventure frame. It's just very relaxed and under-stressed.
To anyone who wants a low revving locomotive, that's the bike. The throttle happy crowd, however, will find the CB more appealing.
BassOutcast - good summary. Thanks.
I have a 2021 CB500X but I'm considering a 2022 NC750X DCT.
Some of that footage looks like the Yarramalong Valley. If I go for a ride to Jerry's Cafe, the valley is part of my ride. Jerry's is a great place.
twin phill - good spotting. You will find us at Jerry’s most Sunday mornings for coffee around 8am !
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff if I'm there at that time I'll be sure to come over and say hi. Love your video.
twin phill - yep. Do that Phil. 😃
What about torque to weight ratio? I think the grunt of NC750X due to "half honda jazz engine" makes it a completely different kind of bike
FirstLight Adv - torque x revs = power. So power is really the only real comparison in my opinion.
Also the “half jazz engine” is an urban myth made up to denigrate the NC.
Regardless .. this is just my opinion and of course I’m no expert.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I thought the half-jazz engine was a compliment! I own 2 honda jazz'es and riding the torque of nc750x sort of reminded me to it .. fat low rpm torque and fuel economy to die for
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I always thought the nc link to to the jazz engine was was an odd one. I have owned and ridden a nc700 integra for a year and also own a 2011 Honda jazz with the vtech engine. The engines behave completely differently. The Nc700 engine has loads of torque but the jazz has to be screamed to get power. Anyway I agree probably an urban myth as mentioned. Good video!
Nice, so what your opinion on the vfr800x?
Sorry. Haven’t ridden it. Also, I understand Honda will no longer be making the VFR in any form.
amazing. But the DCT is a must with today's technology. CB should have that option too.
Best is playing with gear, dst is boring...
power ok; 3500.00 usd cheaper. more optoins for 500x but need higher seat or lower pegs ? Higher seat would help !
torn between these two bikes.
Currently ride a 96 ST1100 ..but getting a bit heavy for me now.
I have test ridden an older (non 19 inch front wheel) and liked it but have had no luck in testing out a NC of any year.
which is the the most similar to the ST?
Thanks
Neither is close to the ST. I think you will be disappointed if you are looking to replace the comfort and power of the ST with an NC.
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Not looking for top end power but something close to the torque of the Honda v-4 in the ST
Now that Honda has lowered the height, ground clearance of the NCX, the CB500X is a far more versatile bike, better suited to a variety of Australian conditions.
I agree. Particularly when the NC has been dropped from the Aus lineup.
I’m not so tall (171cm), so I will probably choose the one with lower seats.
I will use it to do courier jobs in the city, but I’m not sure which to buy, any tips?
I’m currently riding a 2020 Forza 300cc, but I can barely keep it above 65mpg (uk), which’s nothing for a small engine. I’m thinking to switch it for one of those in the vídeo, any tips guys?
I really like the dct version, but the smaller tank is annoying as I ride around 700miles each week
Maybe consider the 750S
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff I was thinking about the nc750s, is the seat comfortable like in the X?
I’m asking this cause I tried the seat of the cb500x and cb500r and the seat contort is soooooooo different buddy (100 times better on X model). But I’ve never tried the seats on nc models
Do you think the CB500X is suitable for long distances like 8000 km +- for one trip?
Now I am trying to choose between NC750x manual and CB500X, both are beautiful. I'm 178 cm, 83 inseam.
nklbula - definitely. No limit to length of trip. We have done a number of trips of 4-5,000km.
Honda NC750X Stuff thank you
They are the perfect his/her combination.
Do you ride the nc in D mode and use the paddles or in sport mode?
Mark Levy - as I said in the video, both these bikes are manual transmission.
Hello :) I am 187cm tall with about 80kg. NC should be better choice since CB is a bit too small for me, correct? Also i just got my motorcycle license.
I’m 190cm. Yes the CB is a little shorted “seat to peg”.
Nm/kg? About the same right.
The way the engine mounted lower than conventional bike in NC doesn't bring any different in handling?
Yes, it does. It improves the hamdling -::)))!
Nc750x dct 2018-2020 an amazing motorcycle
CB500X thanks 👍😊
Thank you
I’ve ridden both, and chose the Versys 650 for the better suspension and more spirited engine.
Spirited engine? Hmmm ... I test rode a Versys 650 a day after after a test ride on the NC750X and was completely underwhelmed by it! Maybe it was just that specific Versys that didn't want to go! So I bought the NC.
Stephen Lang , I am comparing the ‘11 Versys I bought and my neighbors 700x. His bike had a low redline and very basic suspension. The Versys easily lofted the front wheel, and screamed in the upper revs that didn’t even exist on the Honda. Maybe the 750 is vastly improved. I wish I would have liked the Honda. Closest dealer only carries Honda.
@@Dave-sw2dm Early 2019, I tested a CB500X & an almost new NC700X (849 miles). Had the opportunity to buy the NC for $4800. I LOVED the NC but, even as a brand new rider I knew I couldn't deal with the rev limiter so I bought a Versys 650 instead, which I teally like. About 6 mo later I had the opportunity to test ride the NC750X at the IMS & LOVED IT even more than the 700. It was such a smooth, zippy & comfortable ride. I kind of regretted having bought the Versys. Then I (mostly) got over it. It usually only bothers me when I drop or almost drop the top heavy Versys.
As you know we have both bikes as well and I agree, all round the CB500X is the better bike especially considering the cheaper purchase price. The one big plus for me about the NC750X is that it has smoother throttle response than the CB500X. If I had my money again I would probably buy the CB500X over the NC750X as I believe it would be a better option for off-roading as a newbie to dirt than the NC750X.......but I will hold on to the NC750X as all things considered it's a damn good bike. Nice video Adrian, thanks.
Placepics - yep. I feel similar. I’d probably buy the new CB if I had my time over. BUT I’m very happy with the NC for the riding we do, so no plans to replace it.
Honda NC750X Stuff Same here......and we haven't won Lotto yet 😂
What is the millage at high way speeds of 110 km or ( 70 miles per hour.) those are what is need on long tours on the highway. My KTM 390 Adventure will give me 2.8 to 3.3 liters at 80 Km per hour. but as soon as you get around 100 Km 60 miles per hour it drops way off that, At 80 Km I can get well over 420 Km per tank at 100 Km lucky to get 300 km per tank Just from going form 80 km to just over 90 km seen over 40 Km drop per tank and then down to 60 Km drop per tank. and those were on about 3/4 to 1/2 tank of gas in it at the time. I am looking for a bike that will give me 400 + km per tank of gas at 110 Km per hour. will the 500 x do that.
Yep. All bikes have a “thirst” threshold.
For the NC is when you ride faster than 110.
At 100-110 I get around 3.4 Ltrs/100km
So, have you 2 had a few drag races to see which is the quicker bike?
crunchers9 - the NC only has a slight edge.
Location of the fuel cap and little fuel tank put NC750 down.
I wish to see it's re-make with +20l tank and fuel cap in more accessible location.
CB500 is a small'ish bike. Does well on short commute, but anything over 1h ride make you think twice.
So far XT660Z with 350 miles tank range is unbeatable. But large single isn't most comfortable to cruise :(
So XT(CB)500Z would be a nice solution :D ...oh! They call it Kawasaki Versys :D
Can you two up thebc500x?