Why Suicide is a Major Concern for People with Schizophrenia
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- People living with a schizophrenia spectrum illness are around 10x more likely to die by suicide than the general population. This video explores why that could be, and my own experience with it.
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I stumbled upon your videos by divine intervention. I have someone currently undergoing experiences and suicidal ideations that you have undergone. Listening to the video you made a while back when you were reclassified to an involuntary stay in a hospital to your more current videos is so crucial to have. The question I had was, how to break through to someone who is entering into a psychosis when paranoia takes flight and they are disconnecting from their environment? How do you encourage them to grab hold of the life preserver or helping hand? Obviously, after having the direct talk, non action can be terminal, but premature action can reek undue havoc on someone's life and sever future trust and connections. Thank you for your courage and fortitude in sharing your life and stories with us. Namaste.
I have suffered from recurrent depression throughout my life. Each episode is more severe than the one before. When depression is severe I get psychotic symptoms in the form of disconnection from my surroundings and severe reality distortion.
I fee like I am someone else. Memory and time become blurred
Yet I have to live among people and interact with them.
Every thing becomes meaningless.
I look at people and wonder why they laugh or eat or go to their jobs. Don't they understand that life has no meaning and what they are doing is stupid.
This phase of illness is very painful. I wish I go to sleep and never wake up. In one episode I lost 20 kg in 6 weeks.
Medicine becomes ineffective at this stage as depression is very severe.
Of course I had suicidal thoughts.
But I haven't attempted suicide.
The last episode lasted for 15 months during which I lost my job, I am a doctor, and was unable to attend my daughter 's marriage.
I am now OK, with medication.
I don't know when the next episode of depression will come but have to take antidepressants for the rest of my life.
Bad advice that it is a mental disorder instead of the spiritual battle that it truly is.
Your channel gives no hope and presumes something is wrong with someone’s brain that in incurable as you demonstrate on your channel and admit you have been dealing with this since high school.
Clearly your way doesn’t work.
My nephew shot himself. Not only did he have schizophrenia, but he also had severe PTSD. He was a combat veteran in the Army. While deployed in Afghanistan, his schizophrenia started to "develop". When he returned, his positive symptoms were all centered around combat and triggered his PTSD. He was paranoid. He would think that the news on TV was giving him commands (military related). He would think his phones and internet were bugged by the army. He finally got tired of the delusions and was at the point where he was in psychosis more than he was lucid. We tried to get him help. He was hospitalized many times. I hope he is now at peace though. RIP SPC Kenneth Adniskey Aunt Lissa loves you!
Not sure I can watch this now- my symptoms are bad and I don’t want to give fuel to the fire. But know that I support you and this channel and everyone living with schizophrenia.
Sending you virtual hugs 🤍🤍🤍
Look after yourself💪♥️
❤ I'm glad you're aware and going to protect yourself. That's important
Take care and ask for help❤
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I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia when I was 21. I am 53 now, live alone, manage fairly well and take my meds daily. Voices can be incredibly upsetting on bad days. I'm worthless, lazy, a bad person and so on, which can lead to crippling depression. I have never attempted suicide, but know people who have. Please, if you ever have those thoughts, just know that you are worth more than you may think. Reading other comments and chatting to others about mental health make this channel a breath of fresh air.
Thank you for your thought-filled comment. It's helpful for all of us to remember, even those of us who don't have schizophrenia but are suffering for other reasons
@@PawsForAndreayour absolutely right about that!
Thank you!!
Thank you for sharing. I struggle with PTSD and finally sought help after a panic attack at TJ Max and thank god I did. I hope you continue to thrive.
@@333Hedgehogs It's hard to say Take your friend seriously. Try and get your friend some help, whether that's through a doctor or even at a hospital emergency room. It might seem hopeless right now, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Let me know how your friend progresses. Thinking of you both.
My Schizophrenic friend took his life 10 years ago i think of him every day. He was pressured by family out of fear of stigma to go back to work after time in a mental health facility to stabilise him. We have to challenge the misplaced fears of mental illness with facts. I have depression and anxiety and being asked what have you got to be depressed about or toughen up is exausting for schizophrenia sufferers it is a million times worse Take Care Stay Safe. If you have a mental illness you are amazing.
Yes Peter your right ……I’m going through it now it’s awful I’m the only one my special needs daughter has 🤗
@@irishgirl1753 you were misdiagnosed. you are actually special needs
This comment is everything and I was literally just writing sth similar for a post I'm doing. I'm living with bipolar 2 disorder and I understand how stigma kills more than the intrusive ideation.
When you have a traumatic physical injury they never say take care stay safe- they take you to the trauma ward. With mental illness it’s like ehh, have a good day. The brain is an organ, and it’s dysfunction is ignored at people and loved ones peril.
have you ever noticed that just regular people. people who are regular ole people. they dont have anything special about them. they fit in a crowd easily. but they are unhappy with their lives and how they are just regular. so they pick an elite thing to identify with. they dont want to be normal, they want to stand out. so they pick a one of a kind condition to identify with. something no one has so they will be elite. like a disorder with very rare diagnosis because that many people have it. like dissociative identity disorder. and they dont have any medications. no anti depressants. something that most people get ptsd for but they are different.
"Suicide takes away the possibility that things will get worse, which is why I see it appealing, BUT it also takes away the possibility that things will get better... and you owe it to yourself to see the better days"
I was told something similar about 5 years ago.
There have been no better days. I see it as a manipulative tactic to prolong suffering.
The cruelist is "I will miss you and never get over it".
My cousin had it he did commit suicide. I have it, my brother has it. It’s terrible. I get why. I get why they do it.
Please hold on❤
never give up, hold dear people close and hang out with them as much as possible. :)
Same here…
I lost my twin brother who was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder to suicide. He was pretty aware of his disorder, but we think perhaps these feelings of difficulty succeeding due to that was what led to it. Please, try not to feel like you're unwanted or that ending your life would be easier. There is absolutely someone who wants you here and wants to help you.
As a twin im really sorry for your lost.
So sorry for your loss, this is a awful disease.
My daughter was undiagnosed schizophrenic...just started to show more signs for an official diagnosis. She died by suicide in June. She was 15. The medical community needs to really see this issue in pediatrics and stop waiting to actually help before it's too late.
If u don't mind how did she die 😢 wasn't she afraid of ending her life 😢😢
I'm so sorry. I have this, I worry that I pass it on to others. I don't even imagine that. I have a daughter. Sorry, may she rest in beautiful peace ❤
Im so sorry 😪💔
@@akshorts2115 why ask its really rude
@@ahmedthedesperadomuhammed6232 just wanted to know how she died
❤ I have schizophrenia...and I tried many times to sucide..but thanks to my father and mother who never gave up on me ...now I'm running 2 Buisness and doing everyday activities better than when I had no disease
This made me very happy, I’m not giving up on my son. As hard as it is I believe he will get better.
@@user-bn9se1qn4d Definitely he will, I'll pray for him
Wow. I also have schizophrenia. I was depressed because my illness for a long time. I didn't work for 9 years. Now I try to stay business. But I can't figure out how to find customers. I bought advertisement. But probably I did it too early. I want to start at 20 November. And people just don't want to sign up early on. I hope I also can be valuable again and have some success
This is so encouraging, very happy for you and your family. This gives us hope!
Please don't go anywhere. We need you, I need you. Much respect for this platform and what you do ❤
My husband was diagnosed with schizophrenia a few years into our relationship. He was on medication at first and was doing great but apparently he stopped taking it and things quickly went downhill. After a few months of trying, I finally talked him into getting help. He was supposed to go see his doctor that next Monday but ended up taking his life the night before. He went out to the store late that night and the cops tried pulling him over for a missing headlight. He ran from them and ended up shooting himself while driving. Its been 2 years now, but it still doesn't feel real sometimes. I feel broken, I feel guilty. I hurt for our kids who had to experience the pain of losing a parent at such a young age..
I am so sorry 💛🕯🙏
I am a jobless middle aged male with dental and health issues and without health insurance. I have professionally done computer repair, web developement, and other forms computer programming.
Despair can be a very real and consistent issue.
When you reach bottom, things can only get better.
Suicide removes any chance of a better future.
Sorry you have such Challenges. It has to be very difficult. Sending you healing in even the smallest way.
you don't know that unless you try
@@kayjaybeats You don't know that unless you try.
What is that supposed to mean? Try what? Can you please explain your reply to this man
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I hear voices constantly, I have learned to deal with them, it has made my character stronger, but sometimes I do have suicide ideality
Sorry about this
more strength to you!
My schizoaffective daughter was once out walking late at night, came home and went into her bedroom. I thought she was talking on the phone, but it was an auditory hallucination. At one point I heard her questioningly answer, "Why do you want me to kill myself?" That's when I really worried.
Please hold on❤
That is ironically probably a good sign 🪧.
It means she is intelligent enough to be able to reason about what the voices are and want. She won't just go along with what they say for no reason. She is curious about their nature and tries to understand them.
Probably means she can stably live her life happy 😆, once she gets into a happy state.
@@stevec3872
Thank you sweet lady for all your education, I lost my son via suicide which has gutted me now. My son was never formally diagnosed with Schizoaffective disorder in his mid 20’s. He took his life at age 30. He was my most handsome child and really most intelligent, now I struggle so much bc I was unable to save him, or didn’t handle some of his situations well. God Bless you and the work you are doing!!
❤❤
I'm so sorry for your loss. As a parent myself I couldn't imagine the pain of dealing with the loss of any of my children. I hope you and your family are finding peace. And thank you so much for your support. We hope that this channel and videos like this help prevent future loss.
My 32 year old daughter who has had schizoaffective since she was 17 & has lost her young adulthood to this disease, has had 1 serious suicide attempt when she jumped from the Mississippi bridge in our Wisconsin city. She claimed when she hit the water & went down that the hand of God pushed her back to the surface & then she swam to shore. She had left her bike on top of the bridge & went back for it to ride to the hospital because she was worried since she swallowed some river water. So there was the contrast between dying by drowning followed by a concern of being poisoned and made sick by river water.
wow.....I believe the hand of God did push her back to the surface. The hand of God reached down and prevented my loved one from cracking his head on the bottom of a pool. It wasn't a self-inflicted situation, but the mystical intervention was real. I wish your daughter healing and hope.
@@Kristen-ek9rz She was diving into the Mississippi, thankfully feet first, so bouyancy would naturally push her to the surface and since she swims like a fish she made it to shore easily. But I never told her it was bouyancy, not the hand of God. When I asked her why her legs were black & blue she said it was because she jumped into the water, which she did, but said nothing about the circumstances.
I've attempted suicide twice this year, and this video made me feel seen. I have schizoaffective disorder, and part of the reason I attempted suicide was because of what you talked about - the feeling of hopelessness or like I'll never get better. Because I have voices and visions every day that don't respond to medication. It's an extremely hard thing to accept. I can only work part time, and I have lost romantic relationships because of it. I understand why people with psychosis think about suicide because we have a really tough hand of cards. But there is always reason to have hope, and I'm learning to find the things in my life that are meaningful to me, and that help me want to stay. Sending love and aroha to anyone dealing with psychosis.
💚💚💚
Aroha x
I relate to the hopelessness of never getting better
ikr.. the voices are so cruel youd think it comes from the devil himself.
sometimes it gets so bad it made me cry but i am always hopeful.
i never reacted with so much emotional intensity to the voices because i dont want to labor myself with that.
even though my mind gets so sick sometimes, i still think i love myself so much even though the warmth is not there
I did some research about my schizophrenia. And I found out about bread madness, schizophrenia induced by eating gluten. People get better if they eat gluten free. And I have mugwort allergy. So I am maybe allergic to sunflower oil which is everywhere in Russia. And before my first psychosis I lived by myself for the first time and cooked with sunflower oil a lot. Now I try to avoid sunflower oil. Maybe you should try gluten free diet or visit an allergist. It's just suggestion what helped me become stable for some time now.
I think the most difficult thing when you open up to other people about your suicidal thoughts is that they will expect you to get better. I don't have schizophrenia, but I have persistent depressive disorder, and I can't remember a time in my life when I wasn't suicidal. I tried medication, therapy, opening up to friends and family, but at the end of the day I still suffer from chronic suicidality. That's a harsh reality that a lot of people don't want to hear because they naively want to believe that "talking about it" would change something... and then they just get frustrated when they realize they can't help you.
I suffer from this as well. Lots of love to you
I suffer from this too ❤❤
Everyday is like climbing Mt. Everest I don’t get a break
I have BPD and deal with chronic suicidal ideation. I've made my peace with the fact that one day I will probably ultimately die by suicide (if something else doesn't k*ll me first), but I've just simply decided to put it off for now. It's the only way I keep going. Knowing I don't have to make a decision either way right now. I hope that's a helpful way to think about it.
Thank you so much for commenting this. It is a devastating moment when you realise that your friends have gone from treating you like some one going through a hard time who they want to help through it to some one who is just like that and they'd rather not think about it, it makes you feel very alone. I wish this could be acknowledged a bit alongside all the 'its good to talk' style campaigns. Sending you so much love and wishing comfort and meaning to you whatever that may look like ♥♥♥
I spent ten years in hospital including Broadmoor hospital for committing a violent crime whilst psychotic. Doctors say I'm more a risk to myself than other people now. Schizophrenia is a devastating illness.
My mom died by suicide March 7, 2023. She was diagnosed with depression and anxiety when I was 17 and it came back 30 years later. I believe she was misdiagnosed and had schizophrenia. My uncle had it. My mom and her siblings had a traumatic childhood. I didn't know her symptoms were schizophrenia. The symptoms are all the same with mental health. It's been so hard
im so sorry you had to go trough that. i hope you know her choice had nothing to do with her love for you. its like having 2 brains kinda where one is just on this terrible path it cant seem to get away from and the other is loving people around them and being a person.
@lijntje266 thank you so much for explaining that. I have been trying to understand what she was going through and this channel and the people that comment have been a great help. Thank you 😦🙏
@@sallyvasquez6897 even tho i am this person who realy wants to know the reason always so me saying this is kinda stupid xD in this while i deeply get the drive you feel to understand. I think its a good thing you dont. Realy understanding her mind means being in the same dark place and thats not what you need for you ^^ its terribly hard but you need to live your for life for you. Being allowed to be who you are with all the emotions and support. You are not letting her down by not going to that place. Its not your fould. And it was not your responsibly to save or diagnose her. I hope you have people around you feel like you can talk to aswell as the internet. I say this with just love. I do get its a terrible feeling your living with.
@lijntje266 thank you for your kind words. It's been such a long road and I only cry when in moments like now while I'm reading this. It's good though. My brother's are there and I do talk to friends. Today, I did inquire about therapy. I should hear back in the next few days. It's just an empty feeling and I haven't quite yet cried it all out. I hear it never goes away. Now, I am starting to feel angry at the docs and therapists. I know it's the stages of grief. Thank you and thank u for listening
@@sallyvasquez6897 that sounds realy good =) i wish you all the verry best on your road ^^
Ive attempted suicide twice and that was before i went to the mental hospital and i have schizophrenia but now i look back im glad that hospitalization helped me
As someone that has tried more than once, thank you for being so open. I never talk about it because it feels like its something people don't care to know about. Especially if they don't understand the illness because you have times when you're "normal". It takes so much just to be normal that you get to a point where it becomes hopeless to try anymore. You KNOW you can't be "normal" for them. So instead of disappointing them yet again you just disappear. Just one of the many many things the voices tell me.
So relatable. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏾
Another reason I think, well a reason for me. I never asked for help with suicidal thoughts because when I'm at that point I'm afraid of hospitals too. And my fear is to be stuck under the hospitals care. An understanding that you won't be kept on a psych hold just because the idea is in your head helps a lot.
I've had schizoaffective disorder for so long (since I was a teen), I've grown accustomed to the general ups and downs associated with it. But there has been times where my symptoms were so overwhelming that I feared I might go to that point of no return, so I immediately went to the hospital. I wouldn't say I'm suicidal, but I feel extremely bad. (I try to catch it before it could turn into a suicidal ideation.) You are very brave for sharing your story Lauren! More people need to share and reach out to others.
My 32 year old daughter has schizoaffective & is on SSI. She has had ups & done well but since she is in the system & a buck can be made from her, when she has downs she ends up getting institutionalized over & over again, wash, rinse, & repeat.
@@stevec3872 Sorry to hear that your daughter has been in and out of the hospital a lot.
@@catherinel2020 Thank you. My fear is that she is developing and intitutional mindset where she feels safer there than being on her own on the outside. The problem is that these places are step-up institutions whose purpose is to help you get better enough to step up within the institution, then to step up to "graduating" out of the institution like a group home and from there independent living. She fails at the group home level and is then put back into the institution to start all over again.
@stevec3872 When I was in the hospital the last time there were people who didn't want to leave. They felt safer in the hospital than outside. I think it was a revolving door for them too. My heart goes out to you and I hope your daughter improves.
@@catherinel2020 That's it exactly. She's safe, is being cared for, gets her meds everyday, food to eat, and she is also to the place where she is allowed to work wthin the building cleaning up after meals, helping in the kitchen, or putting parts to assemble furniture in plastic bags. When she had her own place she was so afraid she would hide in the cupboard under the kitchen sink (she's 5'10"). She is afraid of the police because they have broken her arm in 2 places, tased her on another. Over the last 10 years she has been in this same institution maybe 5 times and if you total the months it has been longer there than any place she has lived on her own.
Faith. Keeps me going. Stay strong everyone. There is a light at the end.
I have a mental illness with similar statistics, with a low probability of actually making it. I meet most of the at risk criteria, and oh boy does my treatment team know it 😬
The intelligence thing, yeah... it's complicated. Mental illness takes away a lot. So if you're intelligent and living with a disorder that takes so much away, you are that much more painfully aware of the potential that was lost.
You also lose friends over time. A lot of my friends of whom I could relate to caried on to use that intelligence to get satisfying jobs, raises, start businesses, have families and so on, and you just kinda get left behind. Seeing them achieve so much makes me extremely sad if I haven't lost them as friends entirely.
You also have a lot less people you can relate to just baseline, or new perspectives on an idea that fascinates you.
You are strong. I am dealing with my 54yr old brorher who meets the criteria too sans the last item; firearms.
I pray hard for him and all going through so much EVERYDAY.
It amazing that suicide makes up 1.5 % of deaths and yet we still treat it as an exceptionally rare thing.
I have schizophrenia, and simply no suicidal ideation. Never have. I'm very lucky.
One of the biggest issues in my opinion is the lack of understanding of schizophrenia and other mental health conditions, paired with the stigma that often comes as a result of that ignorance. We have a culture that in many ways tries very hard to make life unbearable for certain people.
My struggle is with depression and not schizophrenia. I still found this very helpful. Thank you. Your work helps a lot of people.
Suicide is not something I considered because of religion or what I’ve been taught but because I almost have an inability to give up, but when my delusions have creeped up on me and have swallowed me I have felt soo desperate that my mind fills up with thoughts of killing myself just to make it stop 🛑 there is also the feeling of despair that grows with time. Sometimes I find myself just tired of this mind, this body, this oppressive and angry world. In schizophrenia sometimes reality and feelings are felt too intense too real. It’s like drowning as you watch yourself sinking unable to swim. Much love Lauren. Thank you for the videos🌸💜
Thanks for talking about this!!
i have schizophrenia. i literally had the worst suicidal day today. i have been in so much pain these last weeks. and today i felt finally so much peace in my body and felt complete stillness and happiness. because i could finally picture for real, that i could die today. i knew what to do, and i pictured it in my mind and the pain went away. and i was happy for the first time today in months. that's scary. i have plan now to get help. But it's awful how much pain this illness makes feel. that death is the only way out. i still don't know for sure if i have a future... but for now, i will keep fighting.
i can’t imagine the pain that you’re going through, but i hope the future brings you happiness; you deserve it. please keep fighting for the future. much love ❤️
Please hang in there! Lots of people out there that can help out. Take care! And like she says there is help out there, lots of people care!❤
You got this
as myself being schizophrenic I don't like this subject but thank you for your content!
i have schizophrenia and live with a constant wish to die. the only reason I don't attempt anything are my two lovely cats who I don't want to make motherless, as well as my caring and beautiful husband.
To me it started as a voice in my head constantly telling me to do it during difficult times. I don’t plan to do at the moment it but it’s never not an option & I find it comforting. I have never really told anyone this & It must sound so weird but that’s just how I feel.
TW Just don't read this comment if you're actively struggling with mental health.
Every year on September I'm reminded of my S attempt, it was around this month, curiously. It's bittersweet to see all the positive messages on Social media being all like, I would've lost all of this amazing things if I died that day as I wanted to. I'm an immigrant in a country that doesn't want me at all (not USA, a third world one), I'm low class, I'm fat, I'm a POC, I'm barely maintaining my family (thankfully I don't have children), and I don't feel like anything has changed since September 2018. Things are getting worse (finantially, socially, politically), even if I'm not struggling that much with my mental health anymore, life is still awful.
I'm glad that people recover. I'm glad that people fulfill their dreams and are now happier. But it breaks my heart to know there are a lot of people like me. The ones who s** didn't turn their lifes into something amazing, didn't started loving life, didn't have an environment full of love, didn't have a supporting mental health system, didn't start to work on their dreams or had any dreams to begin with. And are still here. Living just because.
Some people say that survivors of s*** are brave but I don't feel that way.
I know what you mean. I'm amazed anyone can overcome this and be happy. Makes me feel so weak. You are not alone. By the way, ignore all diets and just do keto or mostly keto keeping carbs below 30. You will lose weight with no exercise. Look up CZcams self care videos and watch one a day. One day do a manicure, another a pedicure, another a small facial treatment. You can enjoy small successes.
@@leejennifercorlewayres9193 thank you, I was recently diagnosed with PCOS and am still getting used to keto but I t's so hard when you're from Latin America lol
Thank you again, I try to do my best, enjoy small things and ignore the rest no matter how hard it is!
Please hold on❤ thank you for sharing your story.. you might help so many people to not feel alone by sharing your story to others.
The mind is a powerful thing and when it turns on itself bad things happen more often
thats what happen to me, utter chaos
How are *you* doing Lauren, both in general and, specifically, after making this heavy and personal video that touches directly on a traumatic time for you? I think it's wonderful and brave of you to speak so candidly about low times in an attempt to help others, but you seemed very sad throughout. That's not really odd; it's a sad subject with depressing statistics, but I want to be sure you're feeling okay after going into detail on this topic.
In this world that mental illness calls cold, lonely, hard, no hope, scary, I'd like to say it does improve. Even when mental illness says, i quit, i ask you to please wait a little while, again and again. Wait until some lightness comes by. It could be a friend, a stranger, a day, a moment, that could change things. You are so much more important than those negative voices. You are loved. You don't have to be alone. Call someone. ❤
For me it’s a constant loop of depression, manic happiness and being fine… that plus visual, auditory, smell and physical hallucinations is extremely hard on me… and there’s a constant fear that maybe none of this is real and I’m just in a delusional state. My reality checks are based on the assumption that this is all real. I have an anxiety disorder and PTSD piled up on me too. It’s hard to live with all of this…
I can totally relate to what you are saying. When the voices start it is the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced. And it's the same terror no matter how many times I've gone through it. Always voices calling me ugly and fat, saying I've done horrible things that I would never ever do, and voices reading my thoughts and actions before I do them. And on top of that, what makes it even more worse, is most of the time it's voices of my friends and family. It's truly exhausting. I'm always wondering when an episode is going to happen again and if I'm going to truly go crazy forever. And I'm constantly questioning if the psychosis incidents and voices are who I am as a person, I'm constantly questioning myself. It has shaken my spiritual belief in God, made me more pessimistic than I'd like to admit. And you always feel like you're less than because your friends and family are so "normal". But just know that you are not alone, and that you are not defined by all this. I keep trying to get back to where I was spiritually and mentally. It is a battle but I refuse to give up.
As someone with Schizophrenia, I've been watching your videos for quite a while now and while I've always found your content incredibly informative, warm and candid this is perhaps the best one you've posted. Thank you so much for all the honest contributions you make to this space. You are amazing.
I used to get mad at myself for not having the balls to do it, I know it's unbearable at times, but hang in there's ..please.
I went off the deepend this week after not being on my medication for a while and i just started taking them again today. Also i have therapy tomorrow ❤
I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder and I medicate daily. It is not easy having schizophrenia I wish more of these videos were made
I don't know what's wrong with me. Currently my care team is working on Bipolar and BPD but they aren't sure. Idk. I feel suicide is truly an option for me when I look at the amount of struggle I'm going to have to go through just to get to a point where I'm not constantly depressed.
I am diagnosed with schizophrenia, I have never tried to commit suicide as such but I did drink a bit of dish soap because... I have no clue, the idea popped into my mind and I just went along with it. I can imagine that since I did that the step isn't so big to doing something else stupid enough that I end up killing myself even without any real suicidal ideations or depression.
Followed you and your channel for years and found great support in the journey of living well with in my case schizo affective disorder..
-thank you for your work and specifically this one that truly and quite timely hit home with me…
Thank you so much for your support!
I have schizoaffective disorder, diagnosed about a year ago. I’ve been having delusions and paranoia since my 20s but the hallucinations came at 32. I was misdiagnosed with PTSD and depression. I attempted suicide when I was 24. My husband saved me because I called him to say goodbye and he immediately left work and came home and called an ambulance. I’ve had suicidal thoughts and voices encouraging me to attempt, this year in January and I went to the hospital because I didn’t want to listen. I didn’t hide it from my husband this time, I told him what was going on and we decided together to go to the hospital. I know now when to ask for help and thank you for this video to be seen and heard and have someone really understand what I have gone through. Thanks Lauren for your content. I watch every video you upload.
Lost an inlaw family member who's resistant schizoprenia symptoms were a torment. He was mid 40's. With my middle son with schizophrenia I am so happy depression and negative symptomes aren't a problem. Its so complex and affects everyone who develops this class of neurobiological illness so uniquely personally different. I'm sorry you have persecutory symptoms. They are so hard to cope with. Family support is so vital.
Thank you for your empathy. I apparently have all of the main risk factors. There never seems any serious consideration regarding the real motivations behind one deciding to end their own life. I have even had the suicide prevention hotline hang up in my face. However socially acceptable it may seem to regurgitate the refrain that ending one's own life is taboo and shameful, I have personally always found the idea of death by suicide to be beautiful.
I am alarmed at the statistics. In a way, it doesn't surprise me so much as knowing that I as a diagnosed schizophrenic have been through worse hell than I could have ever wished on a worse enemy. Thank you for sharing, for now I know for sure that I am not alone.
Thank to you for speaking out about this. Too bad the algorithm will hate this video.
I have Schizoaffective disorder and my friend had Schizophrenia. He got sick again and committed suicide in 2010. It broke me. I understand though because I’m suicidal even on my good days. But after his suicide I promised to never to do it. I hope I never do. Hugs to you.
If u don't mind how did he die what method he used I am not asking this for taking I just wanna help my friend too 🥺🥺🥺🥺
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@@marshal.s.howell2857 I am sorry it's heartbreaking 😞😞
Hi,
I appreciate this channel very much. I do not have schizophrenia, but I am trying to pursue a diagnosis right now related to adhd, autism and also ptsd.
I love that I can watch these videos and hear Lauren's kind and intelligent perspectives on these complex topics. Even though I do not have schizophrenia, a lot of these perspectives really apply to all people, whether someone has symptoms that result in any formal mental health diagnosis, or not.
Mental health is so much more than "doing yoga," weighted blankets, or bubble baths, and I feel that Lauren is so good at communicating about this.
Thank you, and also the commenters who tend to come here to make up the community here. It helps me a lot.
You're right it is part of the human experience. I feel that way too sometimes, like I just wanna disappear but it's also important to remember to hold on to hope and imagine things will get better.
This video and topic is so important to talk about. I have a diagnosis (DID) that comes with a 70% suicide attempt rate. It's a difficult reality to grapple with at times.
Lauren, thank for surviving, first of all. And for sharing your struggles and victories. I lost my sister in law to suicide, and my husband is struggling with schizoaffective and bipolar 1. He is resistant to taking charge of his health atm, and I am doing my best to support him. I really appreciate you!
I have bipolar. I attempted an overdose when my daughter was 11. she is now 25 and still hates me for "not loving me enough to want to stay around and be my Mum".
I am diagnosed schizotypal which is on the schizophrenia spectrum. I attempted suicide in April, 2023 because I felt so weird and worthless and that my future had no quality. I’m glad I survived and have a new found appreciation for life and the journey it is. But every day is still up and down. Just know as a survivor that I regret trying to take my life and I am so glad to be here despite it all.
Hey if u don't mind i how did u try to end my life please tell me didn't u feel scared of death or what will happen after death 😢😢😢 I am not encouraging u to end ur life
I mixed medications and alcohol. And to be honest, I was scared. We fear the unknown and death is the biggest unknown. That’s why I chose pills, so I could take them slowly and back out if I started having regrets. I’ll never tell people that it’s not a scary thing even if you do it willingly.
If u don't mind why won't u tell people it's not a scary thing
@@chaneykane3828bro thanks for ur reply I was just asking ways to kill myself are u scared of death or nothingness or heaven or hell😢😢
Because people deserve to know the truth about what they’re considering doing. Also maybe that will make some people change their minds.
Im bipolar I. I suffer delusions, night terrors, and have had a visual hallucination. Im concerned I might hurt myself or that I might develop schizophrenia. Im in my late 20s and the complete lack of control over this slide into madness is terrifying. Perhaps you can make a video addressing ppl who are developing symptoms?
Stay on your meds and live a wholesome lifestyle. You got this x
dont drink coffee, alcohol or any other stimulant.
A plant free ketogenic diet has been scientificly proven to releve bipolar and schizophrenic symptoms. Its callrd bread madness for a reason
I feel this same way except about my bipolar 2… and possible BPD.
Love your videos, keep up the good work 💗 I don’t have schizophrenia but suffer from addiction.
Keeping healthy mentally can be a challenge with both illnesses.
You are an inspiration, thank you for sharing your story & helping others.
Love from Ireland 🇮🇪 🫶💗
Thank you so much for explicitly support talking about suicide openly. Rejection and dismissal on the topic makes the suicidal ideation worse. I tried talking about my suicidal ideation to people I trusted. For those who dismiss it would increase my withdrawal, but for those that are willing to talk openly, willing to accept that such ideation is essentially part of my self image, are very helpful in untangling and deconstructing the thoughts.
If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I have been to the hospital too many times. I remind myself that there may be no afterlife
As someone with MDD I have seriously thought about suicide twice. Once when my whole family excluded me from my daughters 6th bday since they were mad at my words and attitude and then when I was 14 and going through a toxic breakup. I appreciate all of your videos tho.
Schizophrenics and people with mental illnesses are brave , strong most people i have met in mental hospitals are the nicest people on the planet , with the stigma of having a mental illness is your violent and to stay away from those people its really not the case, if normal people or neurotypical people could bring us in the community more and unstigmitise the illnesses things would be better , but there is always going to be them and us mentality , unless there is more education around the disprders in general things womt change . So i applude this channel been following fpr years ,. Please dont stop
I recently realized that I became very used to having suicidal thoughts. It seems so normal now. I can laugh at my friend's joke and at the same time think about how nice it would be to just stop existing in this world. And how exactly and when I would do it. I can't imagine how people can live without thinking about suicide. I know many are suffering too. But how can they still be so persevering with life? Some don't even consider suicide as an option. Just how?? There's so much comfort in knowing that I can end everything whenever I'm ready. Life often feels unbearable. It's too much. And I'm barely doing anything. Honestly, I'm so worthless by societal standards. I have no hope. I know it gets better. Sometimes. And then it gets worse again. And I just can't accept this instability. With my mental illness I feel like I'm walking on a thin thread stretched over the abyss. One wrong movement and it's over. It's so stressful. Would be so much easier to just finally let myself fall. I don't understand why existence is so painful to me. It makes basic tasks unmanageable. Why am I like this. Even best moments of my life aren't worth enduring all this pain. It's just not worth it. And I feel immense guilt for being so defective and useless, letting everyone I love down. I'm just a burden both to myself and my family. I don't deserve to live.
That was soooo mature, so wise. How come people with mental illnesses are often much wiser than the "ordinary" ones? You are a highly spiritual being 😇 You are a spiritual teacher 😍
Lauren, this video shows us what can be waiting on the other side of suicidal ideation and suicide attempts. Lauren your incredible integrity and bravery in sharing your experiences shows us things can get better. You are so strong and your channel helps not only those with schizoaffective disorder, but also families and friends of people who may be diagnosed or undiagnosed and suffering. Thank you for including tips for how to ask someone what’s happening for them. I found that deeply validating.
What an amazing video. I want to share this with my loved ones to educate them on how to help me when I'm experiencing thoughts of suicide. These videos make me feel so much less alone, and so well understood. Thank you so much, seriously.
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Thank you for sharing, my friend whom also lived with schizophrenia lost his life to suicide in May. I wish more people spoke about this, maybe he would’ve heard he wasn’t alone. Idk. But I appreciate you’re openness and vulnerability. It’s helped me to understand him more.
This is a great video. Thank you for talking about this
Thanks for putting out amazing contents. I've definitely struggled with suicide. Most people with it just want relief from their pain and suffering. I definitely recommend getting help. This topic is not talked about enough, because of how society looks at it. That's why on my podcast "The Unleashing Potentials Podcast" I strive to hear people and give them a safe platform to share.
Thank you so much Laurel for sharing your knowledge and experience. You're doing so much good!!! I lost my middle son just three months ago by suicide. Psychotic illnesses are the worst, and you are such a strong advocate sharing your struggles. I understand a lot better what my son has gone through when you so eloquently tell about your struggles and experiences. Wish you happy days!❤
Very sorry for your loss.
Life is not fair. I am 32 and have to deal with the most basic human thing.. thinking ,speaking, and learning. And other "human" live the opposite life "a real life".
I can’t thank you enough for your channel and your willingness to be honest in order
to help others. It’s a beautiful and selfless act.
You are slaying life 🎉🎉🎉
And I pray you know the incredible love Jesus has for you!
Thank you..
I would add too that any mental or physical damage to the frontal lobe can cause similar symptoms to schizophrenia. I had a brain tumor that did this to me. I'm not sure about the suicide rate among these non-schizophrenic but similar situations.
Thanks for the video. 😊
Awesome channel ❤
Bravo! Great vid.
good video lauren!
Thank you, Lauren ❤❤❤
Thank you for all of your work it is amazing
Thank you for this Channel. 🌷❤️🙏
Thank you so much for this, Lauren. I found listening to/watching this both sobering, and difficult to hear. But I'm glad that I listened through to the end. It is very empowering. Hearing the list of risk factors in suicide ideation, I realise that I am high on the list, in terms of risk. Many of these factors apply to me, which I won't list here. However, I am happy to say that I have a number of saving graces: first of all, my son. I keep going, through thick and thin, because of, and for, him. I love him so much, and don't want to let him down. My daughter in law told me a year or two ago that, "he would be lost without me ... that he has survived so much because he knows that through it all, I am always there for him". How could I possibly end it all, knowing that? I am so grateful to him for needing me, and to my daughter in law for telling me this was the case. I am also blessed to have a support worker who comes to visit with me twice a week for a few hours, and I am so very grateful to her for her care, for her attention to detail, and for her commitment. It means a lot to me, and goes a long way towards reducing my isolation, loneliness and disappointment in a life that I no longer feel able to serve in the ways in which I have in the past. I am also blessed in having a handful of extremely loyal and strong friends who have stood by me through thick and thin. My family may be less supportive, but they try to understand a little better these days - however, their understanding is dogged by stigma, and (I think) fear of the unknown. They seem to prefer remaining blinkered and uneducated in terms of mental illness, which I find disappointing to my core. It is up to me to rise above that disappointment and focus on the areas in which I am, and continue to be, blessed! Thank you for your understanding, and for your insights.
wow, having a handful of extremely loyal and strong friends who have stood by you through thick and thin is extremely rare nowadays.....what a blessing you have, and obviously your beloved son....may God continue to bless and heal you on your journey.
thanks for sharing this, much needed dialoge.
Thank you for the insight. sending love you way💕
Great video...
Thank you so much for covering this topic
I don't have a psychotic illness but I have major depression and have attempted suicide a few times. I think many of these points also can apply to depression as well. The point about it having shame and guilt involved in it really made me think and I think people should talk about it more in general. I am going through a depressive episode but I am not suicidal anymore like in the past. Thank you for your good work and education!
I want to thank you personally
for talking so openly/directly
Softly..&..Calmly!!
..&..
Indeed fluently
withn your own knowledge of Mental health wars!
You have both
learned..lived..&..unquestionably suffered with!
I can say only this from my own perspective!
Knowing..&.. living within a body
who's mind is constantly..&..consistently
@war with each.&.others destruction!!
Is not only exhausting!
Tis an excruciatingly horrible place to live.
What i can also say is.
Having an intelligence
Within understanding some
is also both a blessing...&...curse
in Combination.
I wish.&.will all those fighting their war within their Mental health.(mostly unknown/unseen from the world)
A Strength!Courage.&.fortitude
in continuation to fight your best fight!!
You're so worth every breath you take..&..every step you make!
God-Speed.
Thank you for sharing this!! Helping a lot of people
Such an eloquent video on an important topic, thank you for this
Thank you for talking about this and sharing your perspective also. I had never considered that my level of education or premorbid functioning would play so much of a part in my severe depression and suicidal ideation but it makes so much sense. Schizoaffective disorder has completely transformed my life and relationships, for both the good as well as the bad.
Again, thank you for sharing this video. It’s definitely a subject that bears special attention. ❤
I have closed eye visuals, along with a voice. The visuals are of 2 copies of my ex girlfriend standing in a red ocean, that's what it looks like. They are constantly kissing each other. Then after a while my voice came in, he's a black figure with no face, he proved it was him by walking on the ceiling, which I asked him to do. He then started, and hasn't stopped, having sex with both copies of my ex girlfriend. He says he wants me to watch everyday for the rest of my life. I have to see this as I close my eyes because I have to sleep. I started taking medicine and thank God it made it blurry to see, but I can still tell what they're doing. I have to sleep like this for the rest of my life potentially. This is the only thing that had me think of suicide because I love that ex girlfriend very much, and it's very fucked up to see this demon ravage her every night. I hope it disappears one day
It's a computer and totally fake. I'm so sorry this is happening to you. Look up Israeli Yuval Harari brain hacking videos. They are attacking tons of people!
I am so sorry you are having this type of helucination, it's very evil and, a form of torture from the demon through the illness . I understand what this is bec because I've had something very similar and it made me want to commit suicide today and other days .
I have so much compassion for you and love you as a young man and human being who deserves to be heard validated and understood, you don't deserve to to see this type of image in your sleep it a torment from the devil and he is doing this in order to harm you so you never heal from the break up from your ex girlfriend and you end up feeling so sad and suicidal, I can sincerely advice you to listen to a prayer that pleads the blood of jesus over your sleep and dreams, and quietly ask God to heal your mind , surrender the hallucination to jesus who will remove it from your sleep in jesus name , I stand with you in this and will also pray with you in spirit , so it's like were praying together in spirit for God to take the torment of this away , when you pray try to be specific with God and he will expose the devil and his mischief , because what he is doing is magnifying a lie , your ex girlfriend is not having Sex with that man most likely she is innocent or if so it is not something your eyes are meant to see , it's a lie from hell and God will actually expose the devil and reveal that it's a lie to hurt you and make you very angry and hurt abused mentally and psychologically suffer and deteriorate your brain function because it's a form of trauma .
I will send up a prayer each night for you and If we both pray at midnight each day we stand in agreement with each other for the Lord Jesus to relieve you from those awful pain , even just saying the name jesus just before sleep or when you see it will bring the lords truth and comfort , I think the lord will be really kind and loving and actually show you the truth about her that it's not true and today the lord is saying I love you . The bible says where two or more are gathered there I will be , and anything we agree upon shall be touching and shall be established by my father in heaven hallelujah!
I'm holding your hand and I bless you in jesus name , you have a friend that loves you and wants to be there in spirit and help in this little way for Gods glory , in jesus name , take care my friend ...YOU ARE LOVED DEEPLY AND DEARLY ❤❤ ..LOVE FROM KÁY AND JESUS CHRIST AMEN ❤😢❤
@@KKamal-je1snAmen. I pray too that the love of Jesus will be felt and known by our brother. I was suicidal a long, long time ago because I didn’t see the point of it all and did not know God and had no spiritual sustenance. I became a Christian 5 years ago and now know how much our God loves me. He was always there, I just had to reach out to Him as He never forces Himself on anyone. Jesus is real and I was saved when I was at my lowest. The key is wanting to receive Him and He will make Himself known 💚
I hear your pain and send you much love. Don’t let mental illness win. As it gets darker the light shines brighter 💚
As someone who is an atheist in recovery from religious abuse I just wanted to apologize that people in the comments are tying your mental health to their religious beliefs.
I feel that this is highly inappropriate and I wanted to share with you that I was equally as scared when I used to pray all the time and have people praying for me as well.
The difference is now that I stopped religious activities I have a lot more spare time to just learn about interesting things, follow my heart and pay attention to the natural world. I no longer waste time feeling forsaken and ungrateful (unnecessary christian guilt) for things entirely out of my control.
To the other people commenting, telling someone their mental health symptoms come from the devil is effed up. Regardless of whether the person is religious or not.
It's one thing to pray for someone but something else entirely to tell them they are being harmed by the devil as if you know anything about them or their situation, spiritually or otherwise. Reading a CZcams comment and diagnosing someone with demons??? Seriously?
To the original commenter I'm sorry you have to see those visuals all the time and I hope you can find relief soon.
Lost my brother to this exact thing. 💛 thanks for making this
Well presented information. Thank you for making a difference. ❤
Thanks for the great video and channel. You are doing a good public service here in my opinion. Cheers!