Who cares they changed the 4473 in October of 2020 they know everything you have already They probably see the the writing on the wall that suppressors and SBRs will soon be off the NFA and are probably just trying to get as much tax revenue before that happens
Research and share the knowledge.. June 28, 2024 The supreme Court just revised the Chevron Deference. Meaning all Federal Agencies policy's are NOT LAW and are Unconditional
Everything I am reading in the past 3 months says that wait times have gone up again. I am not reading that anyone is getting stamps within a few months anymore yet alone days.
Chevron Deference revised by the Supreme Court June 28, 2024.. All federal Agencies and unconditional.. Meaning..ATF,DEA,FBI,DOD,EPA,CDC,FDA,DOT,DLC and the list goes on and on.. ATF POLICY'S are not LAWS or signed into law by CONGRESS..they are all NULL AND VOID.. CONGRESS ALREADY DESTROYED The ATF at a Conference about the Chevron Deference revised.. 😂.. ATF was madddddd
Why not recommend that when they approve one, if there are more filed and awaiting approval, how about suggesting after the background check they approve ALL pending submissions? That would speed up things for us, and quickly lower their backlog too because it's stupid that there be 3 stamps submitted and get approved for one quickly, while the other two languish for months.
Yup, that’s something we’ve been pushing for quite some time. ATF has improved their bundling tremendously in recent months. Our ultimate goal is to also allow people to put multiple NFA items on the same Form 4, effectively allowing consumers to bundle the applications themselves at point of sale.
Hang in there. It’s likely that your application was one of the 30% or so that hit a delay in the NICS check. One of the best things to do if you get delayed is include your SSN on future applications. It can help tremendously with misidentification delays - one of the most common reasons for background check delays.
I'm pretty underwhelmed by the American Suppressor Association (ASA) and the "product" of their late 2023 roundtable discussions with the ATF. Yes, it has reduced waiting times for suppressors purchased by an individual person but has not quickened approvals for trusts and other forms of ownership. A well-built suppressor constructed of quality alloys is a long-lived asset and given the time and expense of the suppressor purchase, it may make more sense for the purchase to be made by a trust so that the suppressors can be readily shared by multiple parties and that the sharing can continue after the ultimate demise of any of the benefactors. Why has the acceleration of individual person approvals not carried over to NFA trust approvals? Although I had suppressors approved in mid-March, my early-April submissions still remain in "suppressor jail". Additionally, where is the ASA with respect to developing testing standards for comparing suppressors based on both subsonic and supersonic decibel reduction as well as measuring the visible signature of the suppressor? As a suppressor consumer, this would be useful information that would facilitate the purchasing decision.
Total bs…squeaky clean record, waiting 2 months on 4 silencers, first two approved in 9 months a year ago. I can walk in and walk out with a gun in 10 minutes.
My tin foil hat tells me the atf is boosting revenue after getting its ass handed to it in all the losing court cases. I worry they'll lure in thousands of new suppressor owners, then try and pass some sort of annual registration fee.
ATF wants to get as many people on the books as possible before this next election......
Who cares they changed the 4473 in October of 2020 they know everything you have already
They probably see the the writing on the wall that suppressors and SBRs will soon be off the NFA and are probably just trying to get as much tax revenue before that happens
Research the Chevron Doctrine revised.. making all FEDERAL AGENCY'S UNCONDITIONAL
Mine was approved in 2 days. Now just do away with the tax stamp.
Research and share the knowledge..
June 28, 2024 The supreme Court just revised the Chevron Deference.
Meaning all Federal Agencies policy's are NOT LAW and are Unconditional
Just bought a class III cash and carry..
I refuse to follow POLICY.. rules or feelings that are not LEGISLATIVE LAW by the act of CONGRESS
This is the first time the government telling me this is the new normal isn’t believable
My 1st one 1 year ago took 5 months & the 2nd one just recently took 3 days!
I hope it's true! In the meantime, I'll just keep waiting... 9 months and counting.
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Everything I am reading in the past 3 months says that wait times have gone up again. I am not reading that anyone is getting stamps within a few months anymore yet alone days.
I just got my 1st can with only 23 days wait time
Not everyone is getting fast approvals. I certified on my last suppressor on 3/22/24 and I'm still waiting.
First one - 3 days. A week or two later- 2nd one 4 days. A few weeks later - third one 3 weeks.
I have texted them twice and called has been over 90 days still nothing but them generic responses
IMO, this is an attempt by the ATF to collect as much money as possible before the NFA is ruled unconstitutional and struck down.
Chevron Deference revised by the Supreme Court June 28, 2024..
All federal Agencies and unconditional..
Meaning..ATF,DEA,FBI,DOD,EPA,CDC,FDA,DOT,DLC and the list goes on and on..
ATF POLICY'S are not LAWS or signed into law by CONGRESS..they are all NULL AND VOID..
CONGRESS ALREADY DESTROYED The ATF at a Conference about the Chevron Deference revised.. 😂..
ATF was madddddd
Bought one only because I heard the turn around time was really quick. Guess what??? It’s been 3 months and still nothing
I suspect that in spring g of “25 things will get even better.
Why not recommend that when they approve one, if there are more filed and awaiting approval, how about suggesting after the background check they approve ALL pending submissions? That would speed up things for us, and quickly lower their backlog too because it's stupid that there be 3 stamps submitted and get approved for one quickly, while the other two languish for months.
ATF is improving its bundling process to do just that!
Yup, that’s something we’ve been pushing for quite some time. ATF has improved their bundling tremendously in recent months.
Our ultimate goal is to also allow people to put multiple NFA items on the same Form 4, effectively allowing consumers to bundle the applications themselves at point of sale.
At least it's an improvement.
Yea, gotta start somewhere
Yet here I am at 262 days still pending
Hang in there. It’s likely that your application was one of the 30% or so that hit a delay in the NICS check. One of the best things to do if you get delayed is include your SSN on future applications. It can help tremendously with misidentification delays - one of the most common reasons for background check delays.
What about the people who are delayed
I know you also will have problems if your a Jr or the 3rd. It took some time to even certify mine.
Just got one approved, 3 days. Crazy
Why the music in the background ?
I'm pretty underwhelmed by the American Suppressor Association (ASA) and the "product" of their late 2023 roundtable discussions with the ATF. Yes, it has reduced waiting times for suppressors purchased by an individual person but has not quickened approvals for trusts and other forms of ownership. A well-built suppressor constructed of quality alloys is a long-lived asset and given the time and expense of the suppressor purchase, it may make more sense for the purchase to be made by a trust so that the suppressors can be readily shared by multiple parties and that the sharing can continue after the ultimate demise of any of the benefactors.
Why has the acceleration of individual person approvals not carried over to NFA trust approvals? Although I had suppressors approved in mid-March, my early-April submissions still remain in "suppressor jail".
Additionally, where is the ASA with respect to developing testing standards for comparing suppressors based on both subsonic and supersonic decibel reduction as well as measuring the visible signature of the suppressor? As a suppressor consumer, this would be useful information that would facilitate the purchasing decision.
It's slow again
Should be done in mins like buying a firearm
Total bs…squeaky clean record, waiting 2 months on 4 silencers, first two approved in 9 months a year ago. I can walk in and walk out with a gun in 10 minutes.
Now, if we could get the FBI to step up their background checks...
Napa has them, you can get them the same day
My tin foil hat tells me the atf is boosting revenue after getting its ass handed to it in all the losing court cases. I worry they'll lure in thousands of new suppressor owners, then try and pass some sort of annual registration fee.
NFA taxes don't go to ATF. They're sent to the General Treasury fund.
@@owenmiller9906 and then where? Don't be foolish to think the atf doesn't need some financial salve for their wounds
@@batmantiss absolutely. With the Reverse Chevron Doctrine by the Supreme Court June 28 this year.. ATF GOT SMACKED DOWN from Congress.. 😂
I’m still waiting ! My local gun shop says NOTHING HAS CHANGED ! So ya the new normal is same as old normal. Bullshit.
They're lying to you
@@Piklikr lying about what ?
@@curtishoward5584 nothing has changed
I’ve been waiting for going on a year so, I don’t know you you’re directly this info too?.