THE CHEAP WAY To Loop Multiple Instruments - Quick Tips #5
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- If you ever wanted to loop multiple instruments at the same time, but don't want to invest in an expensive multi-tracking loop station, I have the perfect budget solution for you! Watch the video and get learnt.
I've been doing this for awhile now. Had a Behringer mixer and then got myself a looper. It's just easier in the long run.
That's a great tip! Using a mixer just to add ambient noises from tape decks or mp3's can inspire or create new frontiers in music.
I do this with my Behringer 802 mixer...works great and tons of fun 😎 Plus, you get the benefit of panning by going through a mixer.
Are you using the phones out or the control room out?
Better done if your mixer has aux send and return jacks. Mixer send to looper input, looper output to return on mixer. May already know, but there you go ! 🎸🥁🎹🎤🎶🎧🕺
That was exactly my problem! That's so great! Thank you!
This is so helpful! Thank u!!
Thanks for sharing! I just thought about it today... You convinced me it was worth giving it a try 👍
Hey that's great to hear, I'm glad you found the video useful! Thanks for tuning in!
I have always thought about doing this so I could use a mic with my looper. BTW great channel!
Thanks Clint! I've seen you're also putting some cool stuff on the youtubes, keep it up!
@@tywulfmusic thanks. I have stuff scheduled thru March now. Been putting work in and digging thru my collection from years of playing shows. Also filming my 2nd podcast with my dad today. It’s pretty fun. My shorts seem to be doing the best right now.
Try the iOS app Loopy Pro (multitrack looper) on iPhone or iPad with a cheap midi wireless (Bluetooth) foot-control pedal like M-Vave chocolate? 😉
I do the exact same thing!
I need to get around to doing this. I even have a spare mixer, just need to get some more cables 🤣
I feel ya there, it's way too easy to run out of cables doing this. Thanks for watching!
Ok but where did you get your shirt? I need it!
Ableton is really good at that. I like being able to send my bass to a bass amp in my shaker to a PA speaker. My guitar Loops to a guitar amp Etc
Sounds pretty cool! I'm not super familiar with Ableton, but from what I've seen it looks really useful for live performances.
Hi thanks for the video! Could you theoretically do the same thing but with the loop pedal connected to the output of an audio interface? Before going out through speakers/headphones?
I think that should work. There could potentially be a mis-match between an amplified output going into an instrument level input. This is depending on the specific gear you're using. So it may not be "correct" but the audio should work to some extent. As with all things, to avoid damage keep the volume low to start with. Keep the input volume into the looper low, and make it louder with the speakers or headphones at the end of the chain.
Clear help! Thank you
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you found it useful 😁
Thank you king
Hi! Thank you for this tip/tutorial. What loop pedal do you use for this purpose, or are there any brands/models of loopers you can recommend for someone just starting out? And do I need one that accepts a line-level input vs instrument level? I have a Zoom G3 with a built-in looper, but not sure if I can use that one for this... I'm thinking i should get a second, separate loop pedal anyway, but feeling a bit overwhelmed by the options lol. Thank you! :)
That's a great question! My setup here is not the 100% audiophile approved way to do things, as most loopers accept an instrument level signal and the mixing board output is line level. But I've used this method for quite some time and have encountered no issues. The difference is the line level signal is generally 10-20 decibels louder than the instrument signal, so make sure you keep the input volume on the looper fairly low.
I've been using a DigiTech Jam Man for a few years, decent pedal but it's giving me some issues lately. Because of this, I've recently upgraded to the Boss RC-300, which is certainly overkill for a beginner. But the simpler Boss models are supposed to be really good too, maybe check out the RC-1?
I can't vouch for any other brands personally, but I also hear that the TC Electronic Ditto is also a great simple looper for beginners.
Have you tried connecting the effect send to your looper? Nearly all mixers have at least one nowadays. It will let you control the volume of each channel sent to the looper. You can connect the output of the looper to an amp or you can use a channel on your mixer (just never user that channel's effect send. It will feedback terribly)
I don't understand your second point. The way a mixer is set up should have little to do with the way loopers handle overdubs.
Yeah I suppose I could have phrased that more clearly 😅 my point was, if your song has many elements, bass, drums, rhythm, etc... It's better to have a multi-track looper, so you have more freedom to fix mistakes and change the song structure.
Now I have a multi-track looper, but at the time I made this video, I was only using a Digitech JamMan XT. It allows infinite overdubs, but you can only "undo" the most recent overdub. So if you made a mistake earlier than this most recent overdub, or if you just want to remove an element from the mix that had been recorded earlier, it wouldn't be possible with this setup.
Looks like my board does have an effects send, so I'll have to set it up and try it out that way. Thanks for the suggestion and I appreciate you tuning in!
Very helpful thankyou!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate you!
Hi! That could be the solution to what I'm looking to achieve. I have a question though. How is this all connected to your speakers? The mixer's headphone out to input of loop pedal, then out of loop pedal back to an input of the mixing board?! Thanks for the answer!
Thanks for watching! I'm a guitar guy, so I just run the loop pedal into my guitar amp. I keep a really clean tone and neutral EQ on the amp so it doesn't make anything sound weird or distorted.
If you don't have a guitar amp then a PA system would probably be the next best thing. Match the output from the looper to whatever input you choose if you can, in terms of "line level" or "instument level" signal. If they don't match or if you're not sure, you could try using a DI box to be on the safe side, or just keep the volume level low at first.
I'm not sure if I understand the question completely, but for the sake of being thorough... Plugging the loop pedal's output into the same mixing board that is connected to the loop pedal's input would create some sort of a strange feedback loop. It could make some wacky effects, or it could be to powerful of a signal and damage your gear, hard to say for sure really.
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Smart nice guy thanks bro
Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
thanks for this, but where do you put the output from the looper? into one of the channels?
The output should go to a guitar amp or PA system. I don't recommend plugging the output back into the mixing board, this would create a feedback loop which could potentially do harm to your looper or speakers.
Thank you for watching!
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