3 Body Problem | Character Breakdowns & Their Book Counterparts
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- The video provides a breakdown of key characters in Netflix's adaptation of the "3 Body Problem" series and insights into each character's role, personality, and their possible counterparts from the Three Body Problem books. It covers characters like Da Shi, Jin Cheng, Cheng Xin, Saul Durand, Luo Ji, Auggie Salazar, Wang Miao, Will Downing, Yun Tianming, Jack Rooney, Hu Wen, Ye Wenjie, Mike Evans, Thomas Wade, Tatiana Shen Yufei, Sophon, Raj Varma, and Zhang Beihai.
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3 Body Problem is an upcoming science fiction television series created by David Benioff, D. B. Weiss and Alexander Woo based on the novel of the same name by Liu Cixin. The series is expected to premiere on Netflix on March 21, 2024. Ye Wenjie is an astrophysicist who saw her father brutally murdered during the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Later, she was conscripted by the military because of her scientific background and sent to a secret radar base in a remote region of China. Her fateful decision in the 1960s echoes across space and time to a group of scientists in the present day, forcing them to face humanity's greatest threat.
Jovan Adepo as Saul Durand
John Bradley as Jack Rooney
Liam Cunningham as Thomas Wade
Rosalind Chao as Ye Wenjie (present day)
Eiza González as Auggie Salazar
Jess Hong as Jin Cheng
Marlo Kelly as Tatiana
Jonathan Pryce as Mike Evans (present day)
Eve Ridley as Follower
Ben Schnetzer as young Mike Evans
Alex Sharp as Will Downing
Sea Shimooka as Sophon
Zine Tseng as young Ye Wenjie
Saamer Usmani as Raj Varma
Benedict Wong as Da Shi
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Loved the Wade - Tywin Lannister comparison
I hope people are ready for Wade 😆
@@roadtotarvalon- Justice for Wade 😅 lol
You have no idea how useful this video is... I was so CONFUSED!
they are merging and blending characters and timelines... I hope they know what they're doing!!!
Bro it's being made by D&D ... no, they don't know what they're doing. These guys can't write if their life depended on it. They don't have the talent to take something and make it their own so to say. There is no way this will turn out good with these clwns
@@3choblast3r4 i will give them a chance
the first 5 seasons of GOT were peak
Lol they wrote some of the highest rated and acclaimed episodes that was stuff they came up with. Tons of scenes from the start of the show are incredible and show onky scenes.@3choblast3r4
@@jeffbachman2949 Can you name 3 scenes that they "came up with" that were so great? I think we can all agree that the first 4 seasons were brilliant. But that was almost entirely because they followed the books relatively faithfully, leaving a lot out. But the major characters and plots they did tackle were all very well done.
It started going down hill with s5 and got worse every season after that. The moment they stopped adapting the books (which still had tons of content, much of which they had skipped) the show went to sh. S5 to S8 showed how incredibly bad D&D are as writers and creatives.
Moreover, as far as I know, they filmed the first few episodes of s1 (got) and it was so absurdly bad and negatively received, that they had to restart from scratch. After s4 and the incredible success of GoT they started a rush to get to the end, so they could use their new found success and fame to make "bigger things". Like the star wars movies they thought they were going to make after they ruined GoT. If they were faithfully adapting three body problem I might have had some faith. But they very clearly are not. If they were great writers, I might have had a lot of faith. Since the books, despite all the hype, are actually really bad when it comes to characters, the story, the prose etc etc. What makes the book good is the sci fi. Even the writer says he doesn't really care about characters they are just there so he can share his sci fi ideas. So anyone who can take those ideas, and weave them into a more compelling narative with more compelling characters, I'd really appreciate. That's not D&D.
@@ernievzla you mean the seasons when they listened to the books' author and didn't change the story in a drastic way?
Thanks for this. I burned through the trilogy a year ago, so this refreshed since I wasn't sure who everyone was because of my knowledge of the books... Looks like they're merging everything to show all storylines from all books in a sort of way.
My guess is Thomas Wade in the Netflix series will also took over the role of Chang Weisi, and Tatiana will be a combination of Shen Yufei, Pan Han and bomb girl.
The bomb girl😂
Thank you for this wonderful video! It was very helpful when reading wiki summary/plots
WatchMojo's breakdown is horrible, they should watch your video to pick on the cues
The Chinese adaptation keesp the original characters as in the books and adds some others. Well worth seeing as as benchmark for the Netflix version.
I have a whole series reviewing it on my channel 🙈 I enjoyed it!
I just finished the tencent three body and it took a while for me to catch on but it was so good. The tencent police officer was great and I love Wong in Netflix version but his annoying degenerate spoiled son was horrible. The nanotech inventor was so much better than Augie and he convinced me that he was a genius without characters telling us over and over how brilliant they are with no evidence.
I’m trying to not be disappointed at the lack of Chinese characters, and I do like Gonzalez as a Wang Miao type character, she seems like she can do a sympathetic introspective person well, but it’s still hard to buy some of these castings overall.
Thank you for the breakdown though! I was really curious who was who. I had watched the trailer only and didn’t know any of the descriptions you mentioned.
I'm glad there is still a Chinese live adaptation of the Three-Body Problem.
@@ryankwon8785 Know where i can find the chinese version?
Thank you for the video! That's so great to learn who's replaced by whom.
Thank YOU!!! We will see. It's still possible they loosely use book characters as inspiration, or maybe it will be dead on. Who can say. I'm just excited 😆
I really hope Saul Durand is not Luo Ji. One of the best aspects of Luo Ji was that he was a complete nobody at the start of the second book. Please keep his adaptation faithful!
I do absolutely love that they’re introducing Wade and Cheng Xin/Jin now because I always felt the staircase project was something that could have been mentioned in The Dark Forest. It also gives a chance for Cheng’s character to grow on us a bit more.
Completely agree! His introduction as a new character would be way better!
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If Raj is suppose to be Zhang then I'm a bit disappointed
Dang too bad
Having watched the show, they do give him the slacker trait, as if physics isn't his true calling.
Ok. You got me hooked.
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Wow, you have a beautiful voice and this video should be trending. You just earn my subsribe and I really appreciate having a character breakdown video cuz many book readers out there are so confused with all the new faces in the trailers 😂 Hope you can keep up with the breakdown videos when the show drops in March!
You're too kind! I'm hoping I can keep up with them too! Really curious if they drop them weekly or all at once. Hopefully weekly 😆
@@roadtotarvalonIf they drop it altogether I am sure to binge watch it in one day! Been so eagerly waiting for itt lol!
@@Salman-os7pr Me too! I'm curious what time it will drop.
Brilliant video! Just completed the trilogy today, I had started reading it after reading comments under the netflix trailer, This has to be the most mind-blowing sci fi ever! i Rewatched thetrailer so many times while reading the book, and now that I am finished, I wanted to know the characuin the series, and this was the perfect video! Thank you so muchh!
So glad you like the series 💜 and I'm glad this was helpful!
Great Summary
Thanks 💜
Great video! This has been a really useful summary :) will make it easier for me to compare what they've changed in the series. Excited to watch!!
Thank you, this was very useful. I have read the first book, and although I found it exciting and well written, it was also somewhat confusing with all the characters.
I have also had the chance to watch the upcoming series for reviewing (still under embargo as of this writing), and I'm going to interview Liam Cunningham, who plays Wade very soon. Can't wait! :D
Haha. You're welcome. Give me your thoughts in three emojis!!! 👀😆✨ Congratulations on the interview.
1:00 As I read the book, I knew that guy was Da Shi💯👌🏽😂. I read the book and immediately saw him
I can't wait to see him!!! He's such a great character.
Same to me, could not imagine anyone else.
I am optimistic but no Luo Ji in the series? It's like replacing Gandalf in Lord of The Rings with John Smith
I'm not sure what you mean.
@@roadtotarvalon they had to make Luo Ji a westerner, thats what he meant
just finished the third book! a bit dazed and my head has folded in on itself (winkwink) but i really enjoyed the video, and i agree and predict as well that zhang behai will be Raj, but will go further and think they might combine him with Guan Yafing (just so they can keep the throughline of the seasons with minimal character / actor additions or changes -- afterall, a budget is a budget). remember: there's that shot in the trailer with Wade and Chen Xing (Jin Cheng) AND Raj (aka behai / yafing) -- mighty curious, dontchya think? my two cents anyway. in any case, great vid!
Hey thanks! Congrats on finishing the whole series! I felt the same way you did. Dazed! Combining the two would definitely give Cheng (Jin) a much happier ending.
I like that Chen Xing ended up with a random stranger. Maybe would be better combine Zhang Behai and Hunter. So Chen Xing would be saved on a spaceship called after her old friend
Great video! Am worried about the recasting of key figures in the story. Where are Wang Miao and Luo Ji? In the story, the impacts of the Chinese cultural revolution and broader Chinese culture echo throughout many of the decisions made by the main characters. I am grateful for your video as it provides additional context to which Netflix character is a stand-in for book characters, but I still fail to see the need for these changes.
Thanks 💜 I guess we will have to wait and see. I enjoyed the Tencent version that was almost a 1 to 1 adaptation (minus leaving out some of the cultural revolution stuff) so for the Netflix series I guess I'm mostly curious as to how they are going to do it. It's going to be different that's for sure.
Great vid. I restarted the series once I saw the trailer. hope Netflix do it justice.
Thank you 💜 me too. I've been really looking forward to this one!
If Jovan's character is Lou Ji. That's means he played so many "Savior Hero" characters lol
(Edward Boyce from Overlord, Hooded Justice from Watchmen)
I'm really excited for his performance 👀
Excellent analysis! You could also view the character of Tatiana as being similar to Pan Yan, the murderous adventist.
Ive just watched the first season of this on netflix, could i go straight onto the dark forest and still have a good understanding of the plot and characters ? Also taking into account that this video helps me understand the character differences ?
I do believe it was a good choice to merge characters , there really is too many characters in the books, it’s hard to keep up with them.
Hey, just found your channel. Hope you’ll be doing reviews when the show comes out. Honestly, I’m a little worried about all the character swapping going on here. I can’t I imagine the story without Wang Miao 😢 But, I’m curious enough to give it at try!
I'm definitely planning on it! That's valid. I guess I'm not really putting any concerns into whether the show characters look the same or have the name of a book character as long as the actions line up, but I'm also pretty flexible. The tencent version will be my 1 to 1 plus some series, and Netflix can take it as weird and wild as they want 😆
@@roadtotarvalonawesome, looking forward to your reviews! And yeah, that’s a great attitude to have. I’m really hoping Netflix does it justice! And we’ll always have the tencent series! 😊
@@chrisfraser5088 Exactly!!! Only a few more days until the embargo lifts and we get some press reviews too. Maybe it will put some things into perspective 👀 also, thanks for reaching out!
@@roadtotarvalon absolutely 👍
Da Shi is a great dude, first you think of him as a non-intelligent cop who just likes beer and has a pinch of practical smartness but then you realise that he's so much more and can grasp complicated concepts.
This, a thousand percent!
you can always believe in Da Shi
@@yanleo2260 💜💜💯
I always imaging Da Shi to look similar to Jang Deok-su from squid game
For some reason in my head when reading the book I imagined Da shi as clancy brown 😂😂
That's hilarious!!! He looks almost exactly like my head canon for Wade!
Beihai is the goat, the only real winner
I kinda think jin is not Cheng but that’s Auggie, based on the descriptions that aligns a bit better to me but I could be incorrect
Da Shi, literally means Big Brother Shi, Shi is the surname. It's a common Chinese way of calling someone a big brother by adding Da (pronouced with a "t" instead of "d" actually") and little brother with adding Xiao (means small, pronounced "shiao")
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Da isn't pronounced with a d.... There's a ta in Mandarin Chinese.
@@mistyk.1734 da is 100% pronounced da, ta would be like that person not big
Every time I hear Luo Ji, I think of Raj in the Big Bang Theory due to similarity in pronunciation😂 I need help!
I assume they might not be blending characters per se just using the same actors through time.
I dislike that they converted most of the heroic figures (save 2 - one of whom isn’t even significant until much later and both seem to no longer be actual Chinese nationals) to non-Chinese while leaving the villain Chinese. Ye Wenjie must 100% be Chinese for her story, so not saying they should have changed her.
It does make sense to internationalize the cast since it’s a global story - but instead of making them international task force, they seem to be going ethnically (semi)diverse but all UK nationals: the “Oxford 5”. Based on comments by Benedict Wong, even Da Shi will likely be a Brit. And as much as I love Da Shi he’s a secondary character especially after Book 1.
Among the cast that contains all the eventual protagonists -including by far the most traditionally heroic Luo Ji - only 1 remains Asian. And she arguably is the biggest failure of all the main protagonists to the point where she is almost history’s greatest liability through sheer incompetence. Between the choice of her and Ye Wenjie it almost takes a Chinese story and turns it into a “China bad, they destroyed the world” but thank god for the West story.
Hopefully they *at least* make the task force and the general that heads it Chinese because they are at least seen as leading the solution. I ‘m not a Chinese national nor a fan of the CCP, so wouldn’t care but it seems kind of disrespectful even if Cixin Liu was fine because it’s like making a story of Mulan but turning her into Joan of Arc yet having her still fighting barbaric Mongols. It feels like chauvinism to take a Chinese author’s work and turn it into a West saves the World (again) narrative.
Also, as a symptom of this: Sophon can appear as anything and chooses Japanese aesthetics - so why would she create a non-Japanese avatar to appear doing Shogun-era cosplay. Like she chose the “blonde wearing a chongsam” vibe on purpose?
It really does reek of the assumption the audience can’t care about Asian protagonists and not being able to resist telling their stories without totally appropriation. An assumption that is being proven consistently wrong, btw.
I am sympathetic to introducing characters in an Oxford 5 styke group in season 1 that become important later as an adaptation choice, because it prevents each season introducing new protagonists and simply switches whose plotline you foreground and background each season - a structure that works much better for serialized tv to create continuity.
If the ethnicities of the characters are very important for you, I'd suggest you watch the Chinese adaptation. It's quite good.
@@roadtotarvalon I found the Tencent version good, but it’s pacing means it’s not recommendable unless one is a hard-core sci-fi enthusiast. And it’s subtitled and not available on the main streaming platforms here.
The new series looks like it has potential and I’m looking forward to it. And I’ve read the book so I can appreciate the series as it’s own thing (if good)…
My issue isn’t for my personal viewing pleasure.
But the Netflix version in English will be what western audiences will know of Cixin Liu’s work. And it seems to be going out of it’s way to erase the cultural identity of the creator and his creation (except in the case of humanity’s ultimate traitor ofc) to the point where I’m confident the audience will never know this was an Asian work. And I know Cixin Liu doesn’t care (maybe because of the Tencent ver and as a mainlander likely doesn’t care about it’s perception here).
I can enjoy it without the the ethnicity bothering me (I’m Asian American so of course am used to happily consuming media with people who don’t share my ethnicity). But there is an issue for me if this erasure goes the Avatar movie route where all the Asian heroes are whitewashed but all the villains magically remain brown.
It’s the Tom Cruise is the Last Samurai, Matt Damon is the savior of the Great Wall, Major Kusanagi is Scarlett Johanssen, Emma Stone in Aloha etc. route.
I actually think this comes from an insulting assumption of the Western audience by D&D: that unlike the rest of the world they can’t relate to an ethnicity or culture that isn’t theirs. Particularly since this has been proven wrong on Netflix itself: Asian POV series Squid Game.
The result of this mentality by Hollywood is U.S. general audiences have very little awareness of what media, music, stories and literature exists outside our shores (we’re probably the most unaware in the world in this respect).
I like the idea of globalizing the story, but feel that shouldn’t be the same as completely replacing its Chinese identity.
@@Ian-MT I understand your frustration. I think one of the major issues at play here is that Netflix isn't available in China therefore the need to broaden it to appeal to a global audience is what they are going for.
Representation matters. So I understand you when you say
"I think this comes from an insulting assumption of Western audiences by D&D that unlike the rest of the world they can't relate to an ethnicity or culture that isn't there's"
But keep in mind they have casted actors with Nigerian, Chinese, New Zealand, Japanese / Hawaiian, Mexican, British, Australian, and American decent.
@roadtotarvalon “But keep in mind they have casted actors with Nigerian, Chinese, New Zealand, Japanese / Hawaiian, Mexican, British, Australian, and American decent.”
Which makes it all the more insulting that they couldn’t have cast Chinese-American or British actors who speak both languages at least somewhat fluently. This is really not a stretch in my opinion. If it isn’t about being afraid that people can’t relate to different cultures, as you’re saying, then it’s specifically because they do not want to keep an extremely Chinese story true to its origins.
The first novel especially, among all of them, is written with a Chinese sensibility and is very grounded in both the politics of China past and present, as well as present-day Chinese sensibilities. Of all the seasons they chose to replace the Chinese actors with, this first book is probably the worst one. And I can’t even imagine them trying to adapt more than one book in an 8-episode season.
Overall I feel pretty insulted, but I think D&D are just like that. GoT proved that they love their egos more than they respect any single franchise. They want to do cool things and make shows that look and feel cool, and fuck the source material if the source material doesn’t serve those ends.
@roadtotarvalon
It’s insulting in itself that the creators and producers of this show think that a Chinese story with all Chinese actors could never appeal to a non-Chinese audience. People love good quality media. Many people didn’t like or care about X thing until somebody made an incredible film and people thought, “Wow. X thing is actually not bad. It’s quite cool.”
Trying to craft a casting around what you perceive is the broadest audience is probably the worst jumping off point ever, if you’re a creative. Your desire should be able to create great and interesting things. You shouldn’t be thinking primarily of audience-pleasing at every turn. What an inauthentic and also insubstantial way to approach art and media.
I wonder if Tatiana might instead be playing the role of the ninja-esque character... Though then it's unclear who would be Shen Yufei.
Do you mean Sophon?
I think the Ninja character is entirely a Tencent invention.
@@Hattori_F They are listed as Sophon on the Netflix website.
@@Hattori_F- NO, Sophon is in the books... and she wields a katana. 😏⚔️
I'm not referring to Sophon, but to the girl that breaks people's necks in the Tencent version.@@KabbalahSherry
I dont understand why Clarence didn't see Jack's murderer
Tatiana is a sophon. They needed a different sophon character than the Sophon seen in the VR game. "Raised from birth..." Yeah, she we born like 1 year ago. There's 2 characters in the series season 1 with only first names. Tatiana and Sophon
Hmmm. We will we 💜 it would be wild if that make the sophons actually people.
@@roadtotarvalon They specifically state "Raised from birth in Mike Evans’ organization..." She was created (born) specifically to operate within the ranks of ETO to help them and study humans. As soon as she was created she flew at relativistic speed to earth. She was certainly under 1 year old when she arrived at earth. Maybe she's Sophons first form.
"Tatiana has dedicated her life to welcoming the outsiders..." She's dedicated because she was programed to, it's he whole reason for existing, She's team Trisolarans over any human because she's not human.
I wish they give those non-Chinese character an interesting surname or nickname that relate to the character they portrait from the book.
da shi leterally means: big ass rock
I love that for him 😆💪
It’s 史history or scribe, not 石rock. That’s his last name
It’s 史history or scribe, not 石rock. That’s his last name
I always thought Eiza Gonzalez was the lead
I don't really think there will be a lead. It's an ensemble cast. I heard Jin Cheng, Wade, and Da Shi are the show stealers... according to the reviews 💜
@@roadtotarvalon Eiza will be the break out star
@@TaquitoDeAsadashe will . The creators are heading that way
I will keep an open mind, but I don't like the changes. This story takes place during a long expand of time, and it seems that they want to shorten the timeline quite a bit which cab make the plot very unrealistic, all so that they can avoid the need for recasting characters.
It might seem that way but if you look at the timeline chronologically, Luo Ji would have born around 1979, Yang Dong around 1980, Cheng Xin around 1986. Luo Ji is a professor of sociology in 2007 when Yang Dong dies. Cheng would probably be finishing up university at that time, as would Yun Tianming and Wang Miao would be working on Flying Blade. It seems the show is just showing events chronologically.
Unless you meant something different. Then I apologize 💜 I just did a video on the timeline of the Common Era.
I see what you mean.@@roadtotarvalon
Interesting...
Also, sadly, Zhang Beihai did nothing wrong. Seeing the consequences of their actions it's what also ellicits such a strong response against Cheng Xin.
Would've been great if Luo Ji ended up being the least expected character, tho.
Luo Ji isn't asian in the series.....
Yeah it is very odd, Netflix could cast easily an Asian American to played that role if they are afraid a Chinese actor english may be too bad… Hopefully in s2 we actually get the character.
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As a book reader, i so need this vid of connecting the book and tv characters, so thank you! Just a pronunciation correction please. "Da Shi" is not "the shuh". It is "Da She" - each word is equally vocalized
Do you know spoken Chinese? They discuss the production budget on a podcast
Sadly no. If I knew Chinese I'd probably have a cushy job instead of a CZcams channel 😭 but send it my way on Twitter if you have it!
You claimed it was 500 million over budget which is a lie. You still have your weird obsession with Benioff and lying about him. Thought you said you were going to ruin his career?
@@roadtotarvalon carefull with this guys he had a very unhealthy relationship with the showrunners. Makes up lots of lies about them Including claiming they attempted suicide and claimed them sexually Harassed people with zero evidence. I could list hundreds of lies this person had told. He had a very weird unhealthy obsession with Benioff
@@roadtotarvalon Careful with @jeffbachman2949, he has a very unhealthy relationship with youtubers that comment on showrunners. Makes up lots of lies about them Including claiming that they claimed that they attempted suicide and claimed them sexually Harassed people with zero evidence. I could list hundreds of lies this person had told about these CZcamsrs. He had a very weird unhealthy obsession with DragonDemands who, in turn, may have an unhealthy obsession with Benioff
No, Jin Cheng is definitely not Chen Xin. In Netflix adaption of the story with western political correctness and DEI, she is 1/5 of Wang Miao, because the "Oxford Five" represents the actual Wang Miao in the book.
Netflix aren't going to make the century leaps between seasons/books are they...
It could be much more chronological, but idk. We can't infer too much from the trailer 🤷🏼♀️ I think the only thing confirmed is flashbacks to the 60s.
would be a shame if they didn‘t…
I just finished the tencent three body and it took a while for me to catch on but it was so good. The tencent police officer was great and I love Wong in Netflix version but his annoying degenerate spoiled son was horrible. The nanotech inventor was so much better than Augie and he convinced me that he was a genius without characters telling us over and over how brilliant they are with no evidence.
Yep, "Da Shi" means "Big Shir" LOL
I hope you're not making fun of me 🙈
@@roadtotarvalon of course not. I was making fun of the Netflix selection of the characters
@@kangxu4839 Hahaha ok thanks. I'm self conscious about pronouncing Chinese names 💜 though you might be poking fun at how I said it 😆
@@roadtotarvalon thanks for the conscience! You did an excellent job. I didn’t realize that Chinese is not your native tongue. I was mainly poking at Netflix in general and two DBs specifically 😂
@@kangxu4839 Not at all 🙃 I'm American but live in Germany. That's the only other language I know. Chinese is incredibly intimidating.
Hahahah!! They turned Da Shi into an *intelligence officer* .. bro, the whole point of Da Shi was that he was basically that guy that could never get further in the ranks because he was such an abrasive personality. And he was also "the common man" among the cast. Because all the other characters are extremely highly educated in one field or another. Da Shi wasn't .. And that was the whole point.
Realistically, if someone was that intuitive and had a background in the military, I think logic points to him being in a higher position like an intelligence officer. Not to rain on your dour parade or anything.
His description actually says he was a former intelligence officer.meaning it's possible he was cast out
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Of course Luo Ji is retconed
This show would have been a success even if it was just translated to English and all the actors where Chinese. Yeah, this coming from a White South African guy. Netflix is a real bad POS.
I mean... or you could watch the version that was shot in China with all Chinese actors? It's out there.
maximum whitewashed
Dude? At least most of the cast is not white. What are you even talking about?
@@annykdantas Salazar? A ridicolous beautiful WHITE woman.
omg they changed luo ji i hated it :(
Tuning in to see how Hollywood ruins the greatest sci-fi series of all time.
imagine changing John Snow into a women. this is what the show has done. very bizarre
well, the characters are so dissapointing,
but nice video, and thumbs up to your knowledge of the original book
So the main character is white.
WangMiao->latina, LuoJi->black, ChengXin=Asian, fine by me
"Main Character" - lol.
And also an ugly black character saul durand