Early South Slavic History

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    0:16 There where obviously more towns/cities then just shown on this map.
    0:38 Even though the Greek culture and language spread, the Greeks mostly stayed below the line shown before.
    1:09 Or any other farmers from the people groups mentioned before.
    8:19 Along with some Germanic Farmers like Lombards, Ostrogoths and Franks.
    8:47 Even though Carantania would later on become Germanic at this point it was mostly Slavic and there are even records of Slavic farmers staving off Germanic Settlers coming from the West.
    10:05 This is not to say that the Huns where Indo-European, this was a pour choice of words on my part. However it is believed that the Huns did control Indo-European tribes whilst in Europe and some of these tribes got then assimilated in to the Bulgar tribes.
    12:20 This is just a snapshot of the Bulgar Empire at it's largest expanse, however this doesn't reflect the borders of the Bulgar state throughout most of it's life which where much smaller.
    13:56 Boris didn't die in 889, just abdicated, he died in 907.
    14:37 The coastal city states shown here under Byzantine control had a very complex political structure and not all of them where under a complete control by the Byzantines but it was simpler to just show them this way on the map.
    15:05 It is not completely known whether both where either vassals or part of the empire, but considering the events that followed, I went with the most plausible statement.
    15:59 It is still debated if he killed Radoslav or his son Prosigoj.
    16:36 With a brief disruption in the middle by the Domagojevic dynasty.
    17:40 It is also debated that around the middle 9th century the Serbians may have been forced alias or even vassals of the Bulgars for a while.
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    #History #SouthSlavic #Balkans

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  • @Cardan011
    @Cardan011 Před 3 lety +244

    Sheit history of Balkans is like 1000 seasons of game of thrones

    • @TheWolfDude91
      @TheWolfDude91 Před 3 lety +19

      bruh, you have no idea :D

    • @georgegkoumas5026
      @georgegkoumas5026 Před rokem +17

      Keep in mind that this is just early south Slav history, this doesn't mention anything about ancient Greece, the Ottoman empire and ofc the Balkan wars. Also the Byzantine empire is briefly mentioned ofc because the point of this video is the Slavs not the Greeks.

    • @tarkalak
      @tarkalak Před rokem +1

      *of Europe

    • @djsonicc
      @djsonicc Před rokem +3

      @@georgegkoumas5026 those could be spin-offs lol

  • @mza1409
    @mza1409 Před 5 lety +1799

    I wonder if our ancestors also wore Adidas tracksuits?

    • @timax4114
      @timax4114 Před 5 lety +84

      Lol, ofcourse they did eating semechki and drink slivovitza

    • @dacho707
      @dacho707 Před 5 lety +73

      @@timax4114 the fuck are semechki, south slavs aren't russians you know?

    • @andrewmorisseau2575
      @andrewmorisseau2575 Před 5 lety +56

      Haha, I'm not a slav, but I'm living in Macedonia and wearing an Adidas tracksuit right now!

    • @timax4114
      @timax4114 Před 5 lety +16

      @@dacho707 semenke?

    • @dacho707
      @dacho707 Před 5 lety +12

      @@timax4114 semki

  • @biff-6603
    @biff-6603 Před 2 lety +103

    The main reason why Bulgaria was so successful is because Asparuh convinced local Slavs to join him in the battle against the Byzantines. When they won he founded Bulgaria as a country of both Bulgars and Slavs together. Bulgar nobility ruled exclusively for a few generations initially but regarded both peoples equally and they soon merged into one culture.
    The early rulers practiced genuine nation building in a style reminiscent of Thracian nobility. Thracian scripts may have also been a basis for the Cyrillic script.

    • @nizam-alem6761
      @nizam-alem6761 Před 2 měsíci

      can you give me sources about the nation building in a style of thracian nobility?

  • @krupam0
    @krupam0 Před 4 lety +400

    6:34 "So the Balkans were in this constant flux of uncertain political control by various groups."
    Huh, and they say history doesn't repeat itself.

    • @sciolist3109
      @sciolist3109 Před 4 lety +37

      Said nobody ever
      The actual saying is that history DOES repeat itself.

    • @SlimRolla1
      @SlimRolla1 Před 3 lety +11

      "History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes."

    • @captainjackpugh6050
      @captainjackpugh6050 Před 3 lety +2

      Where did you find that information

    • @mrs.hancock4124
      @mrs.hancock4124 Před 2 lety

      The difference between today and then was the fluxing within ethnic tribes of Europeans.

    • @99Boiko
      @99Boiko Před 2 lety +2

      Yep, especially when history is helped along the way by outside forces.

  • @Fruzhin5483
    @Fruzhin5483 Před 4 lety +95

    Correction about Boris 1 of Bulgaria - He didn't die in 889. He abdicated that year to his firstborn son - Vladimir Rasate, who, in turn, got taken down after trying to bring back paganism. In 893 Boris called a concil with which was decided that Boris's third son Simeon would take the throne.
    Also the map of the ninth century is incorrect on the Serbo-Bulgarian border

  • @Siapanpeteellis
    @Siapanpeteellis Před 2 lety +230

    This was the best explanation of how the Balkans became Slavic that I have encountered. Much better than the many books I have read on the subject and superman myths. Awesome.

    • @pevajmuziku3235
      @pevajmuziku3235 Před rokem +3

      Hahahah

    • @kaligulajovanovic
      @kaligulajovanovic Před rokem +6

      Maybe it is the best, but the problem is that it never happened.

    • @makavelimaka8035
      @makavelimaka8035 Před 10 měsíci

      Slovenes are natives prior to Roman expansion. Sarmatians that came into Balkans in 7 century assimilated Slovene language to some extent and SerboCroatian was born. That's how they became Slavic.But not all of us.

    • @miloshp7399
      @miloshp7399 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@kaligulajovanovicYour education never happened 😂

  • @zzap4922
    @zzap4922 Před 2 lety +233

    Holy crap. Never even knew the story of the Bulgars and Bulgaria was so interesting. Amazing video. Regards from Lithuania!

    • @aleksk4151
      @aleksk4151 Před 2 lety +50

      Cyrillic script is created in Bulgaria and used first by the Bulgarians before ALL other slavs

    • @GK-fc8bu
      @GK-fc8bu Před 2 lety +7

      Thank you zZap! Comments like this always makes me happy.

    • @kategoried7501
      @kategoried7501 Před rokem +3

      @@aleksk4151 serbians says that cyrilic script is created by them :D

    • @begemod1743
      @begemod1743 Před rokem +25

      @@kategoried7501 very common for the serbs
      Claiming things for them selfs.
      No Matter who you ask in the Balkans, they will say the Serbs are claiming what their eyes see

    • @chriskechagias5360
      @chriskechagias5360 Před rokem

      @@aleksk4151 by whom?

  • @tijanagojic1995
    @tijanagojic1995 Před 3 lety +73

    I had to pause several times so that the narrator could catch breath.

  • @piotrwiara1564
    @piotrwiara1564 Před 5 lety +429

    Greetings to Slavic brothers from Slovenia Serbia and Croatia. Pozdrowiena dla braci Słowian Słoweńców Serbów i Chorwatów !!!!

    • @tihi1788
      @tihi1788 Před 5 lety +21

      pozdrav brate moj

    • @ricmamaddafakka7248
      @ricmamaddafakka7248 Před 5 lety +41

      Pozdrav braćo Slovenska svih denominacija, vera i religija. SLOVENI UJEDINIMO SE.

    • @i1bike
      @i1bike Před 4 lety +4

      Nice sense of humor

    • @Gorrano985
      @Gorrano985 Před 4 lety +14

      Pozdrav iz Slavonije brate

    • @roby1251
      @roby1251 Před 4 lety +8

      Ey dipshit you left out Bosnia and Hercegovina.

  • @doomdrake123
    @doomdrake123 Před 5 lety +161

    Small corection - Boris the First died in 907 not in 887. I see why you may have been cnofused since he abdicated the throne to his firstborn and the thirdborn son (hella of a infighting)

  • @antegelo8809
    @antegelo8809 Před 5 lety +269

    Ah that lovely balkan.... The place full of peace and fights, what to say, arguing is in our blood.

    • @fpsserbia6570
      @fpsserbia6570 Před 4 lety +25

      well Balkan is cross road for North - South and West - East , we are not strong enough to be able to have our own interest so we follow interest of other Imperial countries that is why there were and still is a lot of wars in the Balkan.

    • @vladimirjevremovic4449
      @vladimirjevremovic4449 Před 3 lety +13

      We are never bored... :D

    • @ivanpetkovic2130
      @ivanpetkovic2130 Před 3 lety +25

      Najbolja stvar kod nas je to što uvjek znaš ko je pobijedio u argumentu, onaj koji nema sjekiru u lubanji:D

    • @austenhead5303
      @austenhead5303 Před 3 lety +6

      Less blood, more geography. Every single empire just has to expand into the Balkans.

    • @user-gg4dh7yj9l
      @user-gg4dh7yj9l Před 3 lety +2

      🖤🇦🇱AUTOCHTONOUS SHQIPTARIA🇦🇱🖤

  • @djziomsuper
    @djziomsuper Před 3 lety +154

    Wow, never heard that Bulgarian people lived originally in other side of the sea which is called "Great Bulgaria".
    Really interesting video!

    • @WindWaker1233
      @WindWaker1233 Před 3 lety +31

      Those are the bulgarS, just 1 of the 3 main ethnic groups that form what are today the bulgarIANS. they were the political and military elite and were quickly assimilated in the local population, today we have even less than 1% of their dNA (however this is disputed because even the bulgar origin is uncertain, so no need to go deeper)

    • @99Boiko
      @99Boiko Před 2 lety +20

      Yeah but it also causes confusion. One needs to distinguish the proto-Bulgars from the modern day Slavic Bulgarians. In short, the two nations mixed, and got on, and the Empire eventually adopted a Slavic personality due to the fact that the Turkic Bulgars assimilated. However, for one to be a Bulgarian in 2021 does not necessarily spell proto-Bulgar ancestry, while the Bulgars in turn settled across on the lands on both sides of the Adriatic (ex-Yugoslavia and Italy).

    • @westsidermetalhead4997
      @westsidermetalhead4997 Před rokem +5

      Get this, there was a time where 2 Bulgarias existed. This one and Voljka (Volga) Bulgaria. Voljka Bulgaria got destroyed and wiped out by the expanding Horde of Genghis Khan, later transforming into the Golden Horde that also almost wiped out the entirety of the Rus Principalities during the early 1200s.

    • @neamnervi
      @neamnervi Před rokem +8

      Bulgars are NOT TURKISH!!! Bulgrs are from Alano-Persian group! And they are about 90% similar to today's Bulgarians!

    • @neamnervi
      @neamnervi Před rokem

      Your maps are not exact

  • @historyrhymes1701
    @historyrhymes1701 Před 5 lety +521

    Your channel is simply amazing and very underrated

  • @fairextl
    @fairextl Před 4 lety +58

    Actually, the origins of the Bulgars are largely unknown. There are sources from Armenian writers telling us Old Bulgarians inhabited the Caucasuses for a period of time and that they had great stoneworking abilities and built stone houses when they migrated to the area. Because of all the evidence there is a newer theory regarding the origins of the Proto-Bulgarians, that states they are from Iranian descent and the Turkic elements we see in their culture were picked up later on, as many Turkic tribes migrated from Asia into the lands inhabited by the Old Bulgarians and vise versa.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  Před 4 lety +29

      Could be, but I think more research has to be done in to that as the current facts do present a valid argument but not necessarily a closed case.

    • @fairextl
      @fairextl Před 4 lety +28

      @@MLaserHistory That's the case with all theories about Proto-Bulgarian history of origin, sadly. We just don't have the evidence to make some kind of a solid conclusion.

    • @kategoried7501
      @kategoried7501 Před rokem +2

      from river volga i think

  • @logansheat6720
    @logansheat6720 Před 4 lety +101

    Nobody:
    Alcek: Southern Italy it is!

    • @hugo57k91
      @hugo57k91 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah I wonder what happened there

    • @MarinKarimov
      @MarinKarimov Před 3 lety +21

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_di_Bulgheria

    • @Alienhos
      @Alienhos Před 2 lety +2

      There's a statue of Alzek in the small city named after the Bulgarians who settled there

  • @InauguralAgate6
    @InauguralAgate6 Před 5 lety +49

    Thank you for this video! It provides the context for some of the things you mentioned in your western slavic history video while explaining southern slavic settlement in a straightforward way. I look forward to your eastern slavs video!

  • @mmitak
    @mmitak Před rokem +18

    Thanks for a great overview!
    Some details I've pick up for myself over the years I can share for expanded context around what constituted the First Bulgarian state:
    - The tribe that gave us our Bulgarian name(or at least a tribe by that name) is mentioned in Chinese sources a heck of a long ago in BC times already; that tribe arrived in the moder-ish day lands of Bulgaria with around as little as 100 000 people, 10 000 of them as a cavalry-dominant khan’s army
    - They integrated with a local populace of ~2-2.5 million people, mostly Slavic tribes but also substantial numbers (maybe up to 40%) are still Thracian tribes and romanized urban populations
    - It is not exactly clear if that integration was by force or by synergy - Slavic tribes were a predominantly infantry-centered force, and vastly outnumbered the Bulgarians, yet the Bulgarian clans held the succession of titles
    - Converting to Christianity was a way to both centralize power and unite the populace. The son of Boris when he took over power reverted the change, so old Boris had to step away from the monastery, grab his sword, and have a counter-revolution ending with the blinding of his son.

    • @mimisor66
      @mimisor66 Před 7 měsíci +1

      As I understand, the Slavs had a very welcoming society and easily integrated outsiders. This can explain partially the assimilation of the Romanized Thracians still living there. Plus, after the imposition of Old Slavonic as liturgical language of the local Christian church, this helped Slavic language become the prestige language and slowly replace other languages (slowly, because mentions of the Vlachs, a Romance speaking population, appear for centuries after. In fact, only after the apparition of the independent nation states in late 19th century with their nationalistic policies were they thoroughly assimilated).

  • @donjon9853
    @donjon9853 Před 2 lety +22

    It's always a blessing seeing my country Slovenia mentioned anywhere. I know it's corny, but we are always forgotten by everyone.

    • @Frosty-ky7ci
      @Frosty-ky7ci Před 2 lety +8

      Bruh same for macedonia

    • @00opiumm
      @00opiumm Před 2 lety +4

      @@Frosty-ky7ci maybe because your “country” started existing 5 years ago and has been historically always a part of bulgaria yet now you are descendants of alexander from thousnads of years ago

    • @Frosty-ky7ci
      @Frosty-ky7ci Před 2 lety +2

      @@00opiumm 5? Try 100 and also it was occupied by you guys but never urs

    • @00opiumm
      @00opiumm Před 2 lety

      @@Frosty-ky7ci yes we are facist occupators

    • @00opiumm
      @00opiumm Před 2 lety +1

      @@Frosty-ky7ci we are also tatars and mongols snd gypsies abd turks

  • @filipkralj2618
    @filipkralj2618 Před 5 lety +209

    7:01 that moment when 2 crazy guys crash the party

    • @sokolsrna1048
      @sokolsrna1048 Před 5 lety +28

      true story. Every great europian empire got fucked when that happend.

    • @ivanpetkovic2130
      @ivanpetkovic2130 Před 3 lety +31

      We didn’t crash the party we started it

    • @dusandotlic3713
      @dusandotlic3713 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ivanpetkovic2130 preach brother

    • @medarismuhibic5335
      @medarismuhibic5335 Před 3 lety +3

      @@ivanpetkovic2130 everything was great until two brothers appeared

    • @ercoleborgiano
      @ercoleborgiano Před 2 lety +1

      Eeeey there were just late a couple minutes!

  • @Fruitekk
    @Fruitekk Před 4 lety +19

    You have great videos! Very complicated topic with a lot of missing puzzle pieces, but explained in a very simple and understandable way

  • @chunkychew6995
    @chunkychew6995 Před 4 lety +74

    Byzantium: *exists
    The Entire Known World: GANGBANG

  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals Před 5 lety +606

    What a great video!

    • @hugrit4027
      @hugrit4027 Před 5 lety +3

      Indoeuropean roots. Lot of words has same root, for example: Steel, Stahl, Stal / Iron, Icen, Acero, Acier / Sun, Sonne, Sol, Słońce

    • @hugrit4027
      @hugrit4027 Před 5 lety

      Actually no, indoeuropean words have a root in common and the use varies in diferent modern languages. An excellent example is the word "wòrd" wich means water, this word become unda in latin and is onda in spanish, onda means wave. You can see that words declinate from the common root

    • @neilmccauley690
      @neilmccauley690 Před 5 lety +9

      All this Slavs are one big nation,separate on tribes with diferent names from diferent regions but it was one big nation with same language and dna.There is no migration they just changing names of tribes tru history.

    • @Dmdm_dm
      @Dmdm_dm Před 5 lety +1

      At 13:08 it's inaccurate though. There was no division between Rome and Constantinople in terms of the religious doctrine.

    • @joshgraham8209
      @joshgraham8209 Před 5 lety +1

      Your channel is one of the best on YT!

  • @Moredread25
    @Moredread25 Před 4 lety +27

    One thing that I always think is important to mention about ancient settlements in the Balkans is that we have to remember that they didn't have access to the New World vegetables like potatoes which are better suited for mountainous areas.
    Good presentation. South Slavic history is complicated because of how many people move into and around the area and how political the history is today.

  • @barbaricvm0
    @barbaricvm0 Před 5 lety +6

    AHH FINALLY THE DAY HAS COME,I CANNOT WAIT TO WATCH THIS.
    EDIT : I love you,it was worth waiting more then half a year for this video,and you managed to stay perfectly unbiased.Seriously you deserve a fucking medal for this video.

  • @stefanogattoCH
    @stefanogattoCH Před 5 lety +5

    your video is great! You cover a period that was totally unknown by me, but actually it helps quite a bit to explain where we stand today. Thank you!

  • @mg4361
    @mg4361 Před 4 lety +108

    A great video! In the end you say that the slavic Balkans wasn't completely slavicised and that there were a lot of non-slavic speaking groups. This is very true. I know that in Croatia, the dalmatian cities were not fully slavicised until well after the middle ages, with the last speaker of the Dalmatian Romance language having died in 1898. In parallel, many speakers of eastern romance languages lived in the hills and became Vlachs and Morlachs, leading a transhumance pastoralist life. The actual Slavs initially mostly inhabited tha pannonian part of Croatia and the fertile parts of the coast, leaving the cities, the mountains and the smaller islands to the romance speakers. The romance languages later faced a double pressure to assimilate either into slavic speakers or into Venetian/Italian, which accelerated their disapparence.

    • @trashbockmist9077
      @trashbockmist9077 Před 3 lety +3

      A great Comment!

    • @cizma27
      @cizma27 Před 3 lety +13

      I am really disappointed that Delmat language is dead. It looks like a pretty language

    • @goranmiljus2664
      @goranmiljus2664 Před 2 lety

      Many were also ETHNICALLY CLEANSED to Italy by the USTASHA.

    • @zivkovicable
      @zivkovicable Před rokem +4

      Substantial remnants of Dalmatian Romance language survive in the dialects of the Dalmatian Islands today, many of which are uninteligable to most mainland Croatians. Some ethnic Italians from Istria & central Dalmatia slavicised their names during the course of the 20th century, my mothers family included.

    • @Livanz1
      @Livanz1 Před rokem

      You are absolutely right about the non-slavic speaking groups , there must have been lots of them and the slavic ( then ottoman ) pressure did accelerate their disappearance south of the Danube but look at what happened on the north side ...

  • @KraliMishev
    @KraliMishev Před 3 lety +15

    Thank you. Finding a good and unbiased video about the Balkans made by brothers usually goes south real fast.

  • @bigozimak
    @bigozimak Před 5 lety +68

    Honestly, that was the best video on this subject I have ever seen! Congratulations!

  • @saturnproductions1827
    @saturnproductions1827 Před 4 lety +18

    Proud to be South Slavic

  • @np4653
    @np4653 Před 5 lety +85

    United we stand, divided we fall.

  • @kristianangelov3719
    @kristianangelov3719 Před 2 lety +1

    by accident I found ur channel, with the very first video, you won a subscriber. the way u showed the information is remarkable - very distinctly and accurate, subaltern on facts, no sci-fi, straight on the point.

  • @pepperVenge
    @pepperVenge Před 5 lety +1

    Great video! Such detail. I really enjoyed this!

  • @bulgariangamingbatlefieldb3177

    I really like your videos because they are accurate and you talk about things we actually learn in school

    • @bigger_mibber6029
      @bigger_mibber6029 Před 4 lety +1

      @@leckyboy1475 But they are?

    • @00opiumm
      @00opiumm Před 2 lety

      @@leckyboy1475 ive seen you comment twice on this video and both times has been about this

  • @darkopenovski9618
    @darkopenovski9618 Před 4 lety +3

    Love your channel. Greeings from Sirmium!

  • @gaetano_kojj
    @gaetano_kojj Před 5 lety +57

    I really like your videos, everything is presented very clearly and reasonably. I can see the huge ammount of work you put into this. Keep up the great work. Pozdrowienia z Polski! :)

  • @damjanfilipovski5256
    @damjanfilipovski5256 Před 5 lety +2

    Wow keep up the good work, great vid :)

  • @nikolayhmn
    @nikolayhmn Před 3 lety +14

    Good stuff, would love a video more focused on Bulgaria

  • @godofthegreatkurultaj4302
    @godofthegreatkurultaj4302 Před 5 lety +12

    A video about the avars would be great. Really liked this video

    • @tomorkaralliu5282
      @tomorkaralliu5282 Před 4 lety +1

      Check Bavaria the only name in Europe that has as a root the word Avar. I know the helens say that Albanians are of avarian origin ,and is true that in albania the last name avari exist but that should not confuse us, the name alba, or arvani or arber cannot arrive from the root avar.

  • @bookwyrm4559
    @bookwyrm4559 Před 5 lety +1

    Absolutely phenomenal video

  • @colincbatch
    @colincbatch Před 4 lety +4

    I can't wait for your later histories of the Slavs! Молодец!

  • @MikeMaris
    @MikeMaris Před 5 lety +11

    I know this is unrelated, but how did you make those maps? Also, I love all the detail you put into a subject people tend to generalize!!

  • @damianmatras8568
    @damianmatras8568 Před 5 lety +13

    I love your animation skills. And I love the use of very detailed map, very very detailed map with detail rivers and mountain heights showed in colours; with such map you can see different layers of history.

  • @keeganmoonshine7183
    @keeganmoonshine7183 Před 4 lety +21

    wow you are the first person I've ever seen mention that part about one of the brothers taking his people to modern-day macedonia. very interesting to think about. Always assumed that the Bulgarian migration occurred after this time period when Bulgaria was more established and migrants started to move south.

    • @IK-so2bm
      @IK-so2bm Před 3 lety +15

      One of the brothers settled in today's Italy, hence you have last names such as Bulgaro, Bulgari, Bulgarini, Bulgarelli, etc. and a town in central Italy called Bulgare.

    • @00opiumm
      @00opiumm Před 2 lety +11

      Yeah and macedonians still claim to be descendants of alexander

    • @chriskechagias5360
      @chriskechagias5360 Před rokem

      @@00opiumm thanks for your comment xD

  • @panikwe
    @panikwe Před 5 lety +5

    Very good video! Greetings from Slovenia!

  • @elizaiv
    @elizaiv Před 3 lety +16

    Dude, I have studied Bulgarian history quite extensively and I still learned new things about our own history, really impressive! Great overview of the region's history, gives great perspective and I love the animations - thank you for the great work!

  • @user-wn5pv9ng8x
    @user-wn5pv9ng8x Před 2 lety +4

    Awesome video! I wish you do make a video about the bulgarian history .
    Keep it going !

  • @jonatankelu
    @jonatankelu Před 5 lety +1

    Well done! Keep it up.

  • @StefanMilo
    @StefanMilo Před 5 lety +29

    Great video man. Really thorough! Your effort really shows.

  • @raritica8409
    @raritica8409 Před rokem +7

    Southern Slavs are so cool to me, love from an Eastern Slav!

  • @Bra1nSicK
    @Bra1nSicK Před 5 lety +14

    Good and accurate video! Keep up the good work and greetings from Bulgaria! :)

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto Před 5 lety

    Man great work!! Kudos!

  • @jangelbrich7056
    @jangelbrich7056 Před 3 lety +8

    Thanks for not only painting these maps, but also mentioning what information sources we have, and which we dont have. Also, using the geographic map as underlying base is a very good idea!

  • @bordoenes6217
    @bordoenes6217 Před 5 lety +5

    This is great content! Would you like to do some on Turkic, Iranic or Uralic(Hungarians mainly) groups next?

  • @hawke8028
    @hawke8028 Před 5 lety +47

    Wow, great video! Very detailed and informative, thanks for your work, you earned yourself a new sub :)

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX Před 4 lety +1

    thanks for the great history video :)

  • @TheFiddle101
    @TheFiddle101 Před 2 lety +1

    Superb presentation. Thank you.

  • @velislavlonev196
    @velislavlonev196 Před 5 lety +6

    You did your homework bro, thats a hard history to follow good job.

  • @dragomiryankov2461
    @dragomiryankov2461 Před 5 lety +92

    Great Video...and really accurately presented the Bulgarian part

    • @bobantheighty6141
      @bobantheighty6141 Před 4 lety +40

      The truth about Macedonia...
      There is tons of evidence that almost all the national heroes we have considered to be Macedonians in Republic of Northern Macedonia so far have considered themselves as Bulgarians in one way or another!
      Even the father of the so called Macedonian nation, philosopher Krustyo Petkov Misirkov is a pure Bulgarian, born in 1926 in Sofia, Kingdom of Bulgaria!
      He is also often regarded as "the founder of contemporary Macedonian literary language".
      Gorche Petrov proudly states this in his book "Study Materials about Macedonia".
      There he writes that the Macedonian population is made up of Bulgarians, Greeks, Turks, Arnauts, Roma and Vlachs, but the Serbs are not mentioned anywhere!
      All this is described in detail in a literary Bulgarian language in a book with over 700 pages in 1896.
      The motto of all Bulgarians from the Macedonian region has always been only one ...
      🦁FREEDOM OR DEATH🦁

    • @spiritwildfiregaming1975
      @spiritwildfiregaming1975 Před 4 lety +8

      @@bobantheighty6141 Actually, in Bulgaria we even joke by calling it "Macedonia Bulgarian (Македония Българска)"
      Some people that are more serious about history are kinda...pissed at you, but most of us just joke. No offense intended, of course.

    • @user-ku5br8zc5f
      @user-ku5br8zc5f Před 3 lety +3

      @@leckyboy1475 македония е българска.

    • @jordan9339
      @jordan9339 Před 3 lety +3

      @@leckyboy1475 Maybe that's because my grand grandfather is from Stip, and my other grand grand father is from Drama region in Greece, which is also Macedonia. And that applies to at least 1/3 of Bulgarian people, because we had close to 1 million refugees after the Balkan Wars and First World War from Aegean and Vardar Macedonia. At that time Bulgaria was less than 4 million. And that is one thing that was hidden for you for many years. Among many other things.

    • @ercoleborgiano
      @ercoleborgiano Před 2 lety +2

      Ah, Bulgarians, the people who assimilated their own conquerors, also took their Turkic name but didn't give a single fuck like a boss lol

  • @pivo2k
    @pivo2k Před 3 lety +2

    How did I live without this channel? 🤩👍👏

  • @levilainpetitfanfoue
    @levilainpetitfanfoue Před 2 lety

    thanks for your work. it's amazing,

  • @SasafrasYT
    @SasafrasYT Před 3 lety +6

    what boris the first did sounds like its strait out of one of the crusader kings games

  • @mikara518
    @mikara518 Před 5 lety +4

    Amazing video!

  • @herbert4725
    @herbert4725 Před 5 lety +2

    Great video

  • @iliabrus434
    @iliabrus434 Před 2 lety

    Brilliant video man

  • @elite2952
    @elite2952 Před 5 lety +27

    for an english speaking guy, you are very good at saying Bulgarian names. Normally our languange is hard.

  • @Richardrbhs
    @Richardrbhs Před 5 lety +5

    Thank you so much for your work in putting these videos together.... I have learned a great deal and look forward to more of your videos Again thank you

  • @achelnokov
    @achelnokov Před 3 lety

    grear job mate, keep it up

  • @SatiLord
    @SatiLord Před 5 lety +2

    Loved your video! Please make a video about East Slavic History. Thx!

  • @hotrodjones74
    @hotrodjones74 Před 5 lety +4

    Informative and highly interesting. Спасибо большое!

  • @stjepansalopek8600
    @stjepansalopek8600 Před 3 lety +12

    13:48 The reason for the invention of Cyrillic script may not have been the fact that Glagolitic script was not suitable for Old Bulgarian / Old Church Slavonic, since both Glagolitic and Cyrillic script had had pretty much the same letters (for comparison visit en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_script#Characteristics ), including the Slavic letters such as "Yat". Perhaps the reason was more the fact that Glagolitic script is more difficult to learn / teach / read.
    That's not to say that Glagolitic script is worse (but it is more difficult). It is arguably one of the most beautiful scripts, similar to the current Georgian script, and also, a lot of the letters that sound the same, e.g. "G" and "H", also have similar looking letters (Ⰳ and Ⱈ), which is not the case in, for example Latin alphabet.

  • @leopoldivesic4872
    @leopoldivesic4872 Před 4 lety +1

    Very informative and useful thank you

  • @puppy5463
    @puppy5463 Před 4 lety +5

    Great video! Its was surprisingly well actually! One of the best videos on this subject, good job!

  • @runegold321
    @runegold321 Před 4 lety +6

    Really good video, my man! Great job, keep it up!

  • @antegelo8809
    @antegelo8809 Před 3 lety +5

    Actually this is a good video dude

  • @yesid17
    @yesid17 Před 5 lety

    fantastic video thanks!!

  • @dejangeorgiev8161
    @dejangeorgiev8161 Před 5 lety

    Great video!

  • @wenqiweiabcd
    @wenqiweiabcd Před 4 lety +49

    7:05
    Aww, they come to the Balkans holding hands. They are going to make such peaceful neighbours.

    • @mamaluigi1438
      @mamaluigi1438 Před 3 lety +2

      Some time later...

    • @rbereee
      @rbereee Před 3 lety +1

      @Јован Јованчевић lol

    • @Awakeningspirit20
      @Awakeningspirit20 Před 3 lety +2

      They were the two young bucks who grew up together and thought they'd be best friends forever, think of all the conquering and the wars and the women we will get together!... and then they grow old and turn into the fiercest and worst of enemies. So tragic.

    • @MrMadRade
      @MrMadRade Před 3 lety +3

      We have still a love hate relation. In open there is anymosity, but in the background we sit together in kafana and enjoy eacb other differences and similarities

    • @Svevladovich
      @Svevladovich Před 2 lety +2

      Most of Croats and Serbs hang out besides politics and trying to push bad history and habits away. Hope our future to be better.

  • @Blalack77
    @Blalack77 Před 3 lety +6

    These are the places I'm most curious about and would most like to visit - along with Anatolia and the -stan countries. They're fascinating to me since they're kind of like border areas between multiple cultures - at least historically.

  • @izvedimeleoparde8577
    @izvedimeleoparde8577 Před 5 lety

    Wow! nice work

  • @bonefex3000
    @bonefex3000 Před 5 lety +32

    Good job on the research. As a Bulgarian that is studying currently advanced History of the Balkans I can confirm that most of this is correct keep up the good work.

    • @bonefex3000
      @bonefex3000 Před 5 lety +1

      @Solve Everything at the time christianity was key
      The Russians also Turned Christian from Bisantium
      And also when we were Christian we were at the peak of our powers

    • @affentaktik2810
      @affentaktik2810 Před 4 lety

      Red Fox Emperor if you are studying it can you please tell me why or for how long cyril and his brother were exiled in moravia?

    • @Dian_Borisov_SW
      @Dian_Borisov_SW Před 2 lety

      Do you agree that the bulgar nomads were of turkic descent? There are many theories and very little evidence

    • @bonefex3000
      @bonefex3000 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Dian_Borisov_SW I cannot say for sure since I haven't looked that much into it.
      But most dynastic clues will lead to Kubrat who was partially turkik in decent.
      Unfortunately the Bulgars were nomadic trybes that moved across several lands, but they do have traits like pony tails and horse riding much like the later Mongol tribes.

    • @bonefex3000
      @bonefex3000 Před 2 lety

      @@affentaktik2810 That can very depending on who you ask.
      We wouldn't have many accounts from back then because writing was still not practiced by many

  • @colincbatch
    @colincbatch Před 4 lety +4

    Laser, You are great! What detail! Fantastic story/history telling! вообще отлично! я поражён! великолепно!

  • @phiszabo2
    @phiszabo2 Před 5 lety +2

    Awesome video, though i'm of the Danau Swab decent i do carry one line of serbian lineage and my family prior to the US lived in the balkans for several hundred years. Great video thoroughly enjoyed this one!

  • @ivanemilov522
    @ivanemilov522 Před 5 lety +8

    Great, accurate and unbiased video great job and greetings from Bulgaria!

  • @skule7760
    @skule7760 Před 4 lety +30

    sadly the video didn't go far enough for us to learn how bosnia came to be but still a lovely video about my people and our history!! And ofc i hope you make a part 2 of some sort , i would love that , the slavic history is rarely covered here on youtube

    • @Kafchuga
      @Kafchuga Před rokem +3

      Well judging by what Ive learned,what this video shows and Bosnia's area of birth witch is around the river of Bosna im guessing that other settled south slavic tribes(not serb or croat) and mixed remnants of germanic, avaric, latin, greek and lliryan population gave birth to this duchy.

    • @LordOfCookies123
      @LordOfCookies123 Před rokem +6

      I always thought Bosnia is a meme country declared through some American grapevine for some strategic reason after they broke up the old country. Can easily see it as basis for further conflict.

    • @goranvuksa1220
      @goranvuksa1220 Před rokem +7

      @@Kafchuga That's very unlikely. Before the Ottoman invasion and forced Islamization, Bosnians were always considered as Serbs. The best example would be that the first king of Bosnia, King Tvrtko I Kotromanić had a title "King of Serbs" although his territorial rule was over entire Bosnia, Hum and parts of Dalmatia. If there were other people under his rule, he would have included them in his title without a doubt.
      Today's Bosnia consists of Croats, Boshniaks and Serbs, but Boshniaks are just Islamized Serbs, there are numerous historical references to confirm this fact.
      Also, this video makes a lot of modern false assumptions. For example, "Serbo-Croatian" language is a very modern and very absurd idea. Croatian language, dialect of the South Slavic, is Čajkavica, while Serbian is Štokavica. Serbo-Croatian is only Štokavica, meaning only Serbian, which is a digraphic language, and this was used to create a false separation to Serbian and Croatian as part of the nationalistic and political struggles. However, Croatian language is still used in parts of Croatia, although their official language is Serbian, they just call it Croatian, same as in N. Macedonia, Montenegro and Bosnia, although after the wars of the 1990 they had all renamed the language by the names of these new-founded countries.
      With these modern assumptions, many errors arise. The first well recorded history of the Serbs is that of the Nemanjić dynasty (they are the center of modern Serbian national identity). Yet they originate from Zeta region/tribe and only after they had united multiple regions and tribes, combined they call themselves Serbs. Also, there is no separate historical record of a single Serbian tribe, this name us always used for larger groups of South Slavic tribes, unlike ex. Croats or Moravians, implying that Serbs are not a single tribe but a group of South Slavic tribes. This further is supported by historians like Mavro Orbini, who for example puts Croatian insignia grouped as part of insignias under the Nemanjić Serbian insignia.

    • @goranvuksa1220
      @goranvuksa1220 Před rokem +6

      @@storymatters7309 I have noticed that way too many people now days miss the difference between region and ethnicity. In middle ages (and before) there was no concept of national state, and people of the same ethnicity were separated in multiple countries/regions that were even often in war with one another. Bosnia was not named by Bosnian people, but by river Bona. Not even today there is a specific Bosnian nation/ethnicity, but Bosnia is a country of three constitutional people: Serbs, Croats and Bošnjaks (named themselves like that in 1993, before just called Muslims). So it is very difficult to say someone was Bosnian. Of course he was Bosnian, but then the founder of Serbian Nemanjić dynasty (from which was that Serbian prices you mentioned) was Zettan (or whatever the English term for people from Zeta is), and later Serbian rulers from the same dynasty were Rasians (people from Raška) and later Macedonians, since these were the lands where they were born and lived. On this same way you could argue that Normans are not French or Bavarians are not German, or that Alexander of Macedonia was not Greek (Helen), or that I am not Serb because I would always proudly call myself Dalmatian.
      But there was no mention of Tvrtko being the King of Bosnians. His title was "King of Serbs, Bosnia, Costal lands and Hum". If he had ruled over some Bosnian group of people he would make sure to include it in his title. Further more, it is not true that there was a missing hair, Mrnjavčević dynasty was set to replace Nemanjić dynasty and last Serbian tzar Uroš had named Marko Mrnjavčević a young king and gave him a right of succession. Also, there was prince Lazar, who was actually crowned tzar by the patriarch, but was challenged by Tvrtko. Also, Tvrtko did not assert himself as king because "his grandparents from his mother side were Serbs", but because they were from the Nemanjić royal dynasty, which gave him a right of succession. Bosnian bans were very powerful since Kulin Ban, which gave them a lot of de facto independence and sovereignty but they were sill bans, and that's one of the lowest titles that is a title of local lords that are under the rule of some other prince/king/tzar.

    • @goranvuksa1220
      @goranvuksa1220 Před rokem +3

      @@storymatters7309 yes, Bosnian LAND. Just as I had said, as his title says. King of Serbs (people), Bosnia (land), etc.. You have confirmed exacly what I have said. You must take everything in the context, not cherry pick fragments to try to prove a point. Ex, "POVELJA DUBROVČANIMA 1378"
      To be in Christ Jesus faithful and by God apointed Stephan (Serbian Nemanjić dynasty name), King of Serbs (people) and Bosnia and... (his lands). And then I had started my reighn with God and rebuild the trone of Serbia (here he directly puts Bosnia as a land in Serbia) with wish to erect what was fallen and streighten what was damaged.

  • @liteomegapkm
    @liteomegapkm Před 4 lety

    Very interesting video thanks!

  • @champagnedance7524
    @champagnedance7524 Před 5 lety +2

    Very good video

  • @ocilek
    @ocilek Před 3 lety +3

    Před pár dny jsem objevil tvůj kanál a zamiloval jsem si ho. V jednom videu máš obrovské množství informací. Anglicky umím relativně dobře, ale tak velké množství informací by se mi lépe vstřebávalo v tvém rodném jazyce. Mám rád historii a miluju mapy, takže takže tvůj kanál je přesně pro mě.

  • @DakuHonoo
    @DakuHonoo Před 5 lety +55

    now I want to play a map game, incorporating slovenia into a wendish empire ... i'm thinking eu4

    • @DakuHonoo
      @DakuHonoo Před 5 lety +2

      yeah but i haven't played ck2 yet, i'll give it a try over the weekend, however i've seen part of your AH hoi4 game after this one and decided to play that because i didn't like something you did

    • @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642
      @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642 Před 5 lety +1

      Maybe a mod for EU4 that starts at an earlier date?

    • @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642
      @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642 Před 5 lety

      +M.Laser True. But then again, there are mods to some video games that have so much work put into them that they actually make, if not a good, then at least a decent enough representation of an age before the game for which the mod was made originally is set in.
      (I could barely wrap around the last sentence, so I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't understand it correctly or at all).

    • @Miranporedosgitarsmer
      @Miranporedosgitarsmer Před 5 lety +3

      Ajde dajte pričat ,govoriti po balkanski bre :)
      Kje je Karantanija? Slovenija?

    • @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642
      @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642 Před 5 lety +4

      +Miran poredoš
      Da. Te djelovi današnje Austrije, takođe.

  • @TheBiro1982
    @TheBiro1982 Před 3 lety

    A great video! 👍👍👍

  • @Matt_Silverwolf
    @Matt_Silverwolf Před rokem +3

    I have learned more about the history of my country from a 19 min youtube video than I have from 4 years of history class in school

  • @tzora6462
    @tzora6462 Před 5 lety +3

    @m.laser I only wish you added a timeline while you were speaking of all the events

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh Před 5 lety +1

    Looks great!
    Look forward to the last of the series. are you going to make them a play list?
    Suggestion - why not do the origins of the norse-germanic, ie the Goths and Vandals and Gepids ending with the Lombards - an show how they moved in the migration period? You might even intertwine the Wends with them.

  • @filipkomljenovic8208
    @filipkomljenovic8208 Před 2 lety

    Ive been lookinf for a vid like this

  • @anurdelic
    @anurdelic Před 4 lety +2

    I hope there will be another video because balkan history is very complex and a lot of other kingdoms form and get involved.

  • @aleksk4151
    @aleksk4151 Před 5 lety +75

    What about the Second Bulgarian empire ? NIce video !

    • @BGgungame
      @BGgungame Před 4 lety +18

      I'm guessing he omitted it because the video was more about early history of the Slavs, rather than the whole history of the region..

    • @daniivanov6923
      @daniivanov6923 Před 4 lety +2

      better no wars

  • @donallen5798
    @donallen5798 Před 4 lety

    great video well presented thanks

  • @stephanmarinovic1180
    @stephanmarinovic1180 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video.
    With so much information, I know that it is impossible to mention everything. I do have a couple of small details that were not mentioned as it pertains to Croats settling the area. The first being that there was some kind of treaty or offer of settlement (contingent on Christianizing) from either Rome or Byzantium extended to Croats to settle the region after it was largely vacated due to raids and economic ruin. For the life of me, I can't recall the name of the document or where it can be found. A similar situation may have occurred with Serbs, given that they entered the area around the same and managed to unify the Slavs who were there before them.
    The other thing I would mention was that the Croatian Kingdom allied with Byzantium during one of their wars with the Bulgarian empire. As such, they were rewarded with Southern Dalmatia, which demographically, had already become largely Slavic any way. The Adriatic coast remained largely Slavic demographically until later Venetian colonization which brought back some Latin populations.

  • @witalian1
    @witalian1 Před 5 lety +3

    Will you do a continuation on balkan history?

  • @jozejerse6777
    @jozejerse6777 Před rokem +10

    Good representation of Slovenia. Even Slovenes rarely know of the fact that we have common roots with Czechs and Slovaks. Even though we no longer share national or cultural border, we still have more in common that with our southern neighbours.

    • @andreman2767
      @andreman2767 Před rokem +2

      Anyway all slavs share a lot of common stuff

    • @Svevladovich
      @Svevladovich Před 11 měsíci

      @Washing Machine Mine from Czechia.

  • @silentone11111111
    @silentone11111111 Před 2 lety

    Great vid. That was really complicated 😀