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  • after nearly a decade, the hunger games have finally returned to the big screen with the ballad of songbirds and snakes. set 64 years before the time of katniss everdeen, the prequel follows the rise of president coriolanus snow and the events surrounding the 10th annual hunger games. what did you think of the ballad of songbirds and snakes?
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  • @gabi8740
    @gabi8740 Před 5 měsíci +4326

    They had no right making Snow this fine

    • @absolutelynotellen
      @absolutelynotellen Před 5 měsíci +195

      I know right. Tom Blyth is ethereal. 😳💓

    • @ykitsurgirllivi
      @ykitsurgirllivi Před 5 měsíci +168

      No right forcing me to root for snow😭

    • @ariannasstudio8765
      @ariannasstudio8765 Před 5 měsíci +293

      Facts. He’s become Gen Z’s Draco Malfoy.

    • @chileanyways196
      @chileanyways196 Před 5 měsíci +137

      I know I wanted him to have a redemption arc so bad and for it to turn into a full fledged rom com lol

    • @vessel5965
      @vessel5965 Před 5 měsíci +131

      Pretty. People. Are. Evil. Too. ✨🌹🧿

  • @leslievanhouten
    @leslievanhouten Před 5 měsíci +2732

    Reading Ballad…was like reading American Psyco, the internal monologue of a narcissistic murderer with a supremacy kink. I did like the movie, but wished Smow’s characterization was darker. Jason Schwartzman however, was pitch perfect.

    • @aliciabergman1252
      @aliciabergman1252 Před 5 měsíci +96

      Jason really did a good job and you definitely buy that he is related to Ceasar.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq Před 5 měsíci +76

      Agreed, I wished that they'd committed to making Snow a darker character, true to the book.

    • @musicIistener
      @musicIistener Před 5 měsíci +67

      There was a moment in the trailer where Lucy Grey calls Snow a rebel and his eye twitches but it wasn't in the movie!!! I wish there was more moments like that

    • @gemmamoon5998
      @gemmamoon5998 Před 5 měsíci +27

      I just came out of the movie, and I turned to my sister and said, “I enjoyed the movie but I just need to say that Jason Schwartzman and Peter Dinklage ate that up.”

    • @shawnnbits
      @shawnnbits Před 5 měsíci +2

      I agree!

  • @mikadyo4680
    @mikadyo4680 Před 5 měsíci +2095

    As someone who has never read the book, I had no issue understanding Snow’s dissent into heartlessness. He always has a note of opportunism in every action he takes from the beginning, such as the small smirk on his face after Lucy sings for the first time. He knows she can put on a good show and boost ratings. Later on when he says “you can trust me too” to Lucy, it seems so calculated and like neither of them actually believe they can trust the other fully. His hunger was apparent to me until the games began and I took his not eating when he had chances to, such as when he arrives at the school, as him trying to keep the image of wealth. Why would he need to eat, he has plenty of food at home. To me that showed he is willing to put up with pain in order to keep his image and his family’s image pristine. From the way you described the book, it seems like Snow’s paranoia and distrust is at a level 10 from the beginning. If this is true, I think the small bits of real trust and optimism he shows in the beginning makes his dissent more compelling and human. I also think he has the capacity for evil the whole time. When Lucy said “all people are born with a natural goodness,” I thought that Snow serves as a foil to her and that belief. He is someone who has a natural evil/hatred inside of them that is very apparent when he kills the tribute and then continues to brutalize him.

    • @Scarlett59319
      @Scarlett59319 Před 5 měsíci +42

      I’ve read the book but still I totally agree!

    • @chanmarr8118
      @chanmarr8118 Před 5 měsíci +103

      In the book, he doesn’t eat much or go to the food right away in the beginning because he’s trying not to seem like he’s starving but yeah, he’s constantly pacing himself and acting like they’re still on top. I thought the movie was great too. I was concerned how they’d portray his thoughts on screen because that’s always the issue. The changes made to make the story flow better and show his true character was well done.

    • @AnimeAngel115
      @AnimeAngel115 Před 5 měsíci +91

      Exactly, his motivations were clear from the beggining and even Tigress having to keep reminding him to be good and human showed its something hes struggled to do since a very young age.

    • @lilyjones2368
      @lilyjones2368 Před 5 měsíci +60

      Respectfully, since you haven’t read the book, I don’t think you realize the DEPTH of the sociopathy this man is characterized by. I’m not saying there aren’t parts of the film that portray it well, or that your observations aren’t totally correct. But I believe the fact remains that this film was missing such a crucial piece of the puzzle when the director decided not to go as far with the darkness of his characterization. In my opinion, it is a MASSIVE commentary on white supremacy, patriarchy and the insidious nature of oppression. I think by not letting us into his internal monologue, the film did not hit the mark in that regard.

    • @st4rchrry13
      @st4rchrry13 Před 5 měsíci +49

      exactlyyyyy, his actions never felt truly selfless in the film..they felt opportunistic. Even highbottom points this out when he says snow's obsession with helping lucy gray was beneficial for himself because it would have brought him closer to the plinth prize. So Snow complete heartlessness at the end of the film never felt rushed/shocking to me.

  • @diannaherrera3768
    @diannaherrera3768 Před 5 měsíci +921

    The actor who played Snow was so fine I was getting concerned for myself throughout the movie...💀

    • @harper9246
      @harper9246 Před 5 měsíci +17

      FRR

    • @leeh4669
      @leeh4669 Před 5 měsíci +102

      tom blyth is so fine i had to remind myself multiple times of evil donald sutherland snow... like he had NO RIGHT to look that good with every hairstyle (and in that white t-shirt??? the lake scene???)

    • @purpleclaws202
      @purpleclaws202 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@leeh4669 you girls are disgusting. Men are creepy and predatory and woman are forgiving and excusing of creepy men as long as they're attractive.

    • @chanmarr8118
      @chanmarr8118 Před 5 měsíci +37

      I thought I was fine and didn’t succumb to his looks until the very end when he has money 😂 The hairstyle and suit, I damn near fainted lol

    • @liliesstarlight
      @liliesstarlight Před 5 měsíci +37

      Tom was so fine that even though I knew the ending I was still somehow hoping he wouldn't end up being President Snow for some reason 😭💀

  • @tracelisey
    @tracelisey Před 5 měsíci +420

    I think the lack of HUNGER was the worsy thing for me. Excluding some scenes, there was no show of starvation. These tributes were dying of hunger at points. They went over a week without being fed properly and THEN they went in the games. Food was used as currency and leverage from mentors (to get tributes to do what they want ie: Arachne) but also from tributes (Marcus' refusal to eat Seajanus' food + the bartering in the arena). The contrast of this games where at times they were utterly weak from hunger and basically starved to death, to Katniss' games where she could basically gorge herself up until the games statted would have been really interesting to see. Like what is less morally repugnant? Starving them or feeding them like pigs to slaughter?

    • @amaanmansour3178
      @amaanmansour3178 Před 5 měsíci +16

      I haven’t watched the movie yet but I am a huge fan of the books (read all four multiple times) and now that you mention this, it’s a great point and adds to the philosophical/ethical tones of the series. I’m gonna be thinking about this for a while.

    • @TheZombieButler
      @TheZombieButler Před 5 měsíci +13

      Couldn't agree more. I enjoyed the heck out of the movie but this is the bit I really missed.
      Not only physical hunger but Snow's hunger to reinvigorate his family name. Saw a bit of both, but I really wanted more.

    • @yac2013
      @yac2013 Před 4 měsíci

      M on

    • @nuotatorre8741
      @nuotatorre8741 Před 2 měsíci +3

      To be fair in the OG movie there isn't a big focus on hunger either. Outside of the scene where Katniss gets the bread from Peeta for the rest of the movie they seem to be ok. Even Foxface who in the book was described as starved when she ate the berries looked in good shape when she died in the film.

  • @skylor8541
    @skylor8541 Před 5 měsíci +1484

    I think the movie did a pretty good job showing Snows descent into evil considering it would be pretty much impossible to show his internal dialogue like in the book. At the beginning Snow's initial motivation to help Lucy was the money he would receive. His family's wealth is dissipating and he cannot afford university. He immediately took interest in her though, when she sang a righteous song after she was declared district 12 tribute. He snuck her food and gave her advantages even after he was told there would be no reward for him.
    When she saved him during the bombing, he began to love her. I believe it was the second he had to kill someone to defend himself in the arena, he became morally conflicted. He starts to spiral for the worse ethically, and long story short, it was in the Forrest fleeing North where Lucy caught him in a lie and she became suspicious, then the second he found the murder weapon she realized he was going to make the choice to destroy it and move back to the capital. Leaving her behind and clearing himself of any evidence, unless he happened see her as another loose end. She made this connection and immediately fled. Then the end is where we really see him lose all humanity and become the villain.

    • @20000dino
      @20000dino Před 5 měsíci +33

      You must gravely lack imagination if you think it would be impossible to translate his inner dialogue in the book through actions in the movie. That’s what a good adaptation should strive for - not to merely reenact the events of the book and leave out what's hard to fathom outside of the page, but to tastefully translate such elements through the use of cinematic language. A film which very successfully shows us the inner world of a character with often no dialogue is 2022’s Pearl (though it’s helped by how over-the-top and camp it is).

    • @braingirl9112
      @braingirl9112 Před 5 měsíci +70

      Honestly, I don't know if "descent into evil" are the right words for what happened to Snow because he was pretty despicable from the beginning in the book. His internal monologue towards people from the district was very degrading and he was very judgmental of Sejanus's family. Even when he fell in love with Lucy Gray he was very possessive of her and thought of her as something to own. The book does show he has the potential for good but he nevers really fulfills that potential because almost every time he does something good he has ulterior motives. To me, he was a bad guy who became an even worse guy, he was never really good.

    • @lilyjones2368
      @lilyjones2368 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Snow never descended into evil though. He is a sociopath from the first page. This is why this film felt incomplete to me.

    • @renoirrr
      @renoirrr Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@braingirl9112​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠i feel like he was bordering on becoming good, like there are the roots for it but he just needed to change, which is where the “descent into evil” descriptions come from. Ofc, he never followed through on those roots.
      anyway no matter how much i imagine adding his inner dialogue like the person above is saying, i just can’t see how it would work without being so campy even i’m a bit put off. this is a hollywood movie. they just wouldn’t. the only way i could see it working is if they keep giving closeups on the coryo’s face and the actor acts the fuck outta it so that you get the point across that he’s thinking past what is just shown on screen.
      issue is that would extend the runtime as shots would be longer or completely added and the movie is already 2 1/2 hrs long. i don’t think it would extend it to 3hrs, at most imo it would extend it to closer to 2 hrs 45 mins, but still they already squeezed so much into the movie. i dont think they could fit anything more with how fast paced it is. barely got any time to breathe until act 3 imo.

    • @queenb2450
      @queenb2450 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@20000dino "you must gravely lack imagination" well the studio didn't do it, and unless you yourself can execute it perfectly, shut up. As a person who didn't read the prequel (will do it now after watching the movie), it was a very weird feeling rooting for Snow because you wanted him succeed to help Lucy. We know who Snow turns out to be eventually, but not knowing exactly his despicable thoughts made it more tragic.

  • @chileanyways196
    @chileanyways196 Před 5 měsíci +1376

    For me, reading the book made this movie such a smoother experience to watch. I think that's why i loved it so much, because i fully knew the inner dialogue and just how bad coriolanus is within his conscience. Considering how difficult this book was to adapt, I don't really have any issues with the third act (I think it’s rushed in the book too) except that it honestly could have been darker. Also, there was a whole other hour they had to go back and cut. the directors cut is 3 hr 40 minutes, and that extra hour probably would've really helped it. I hope that version is released soon

    • @adeleaslan8182
      @adeleaslan8182 Před 5 měsíci +104

      I'm honestly really annoyed Western movies refusal to make long length movies. 3 hours would be the perfect length to contextualize this movie, but so many movie makers seem to think people don't want to watch more than 2 hours

    • @StormNothing
      @StormNothing Před 5 měsíci +49

      @@adeleaslan8182 this movie was 2 hours 45 minutes long. But I agree it could’ve been longer honestly

    • @StormNothing
      @StormNothing Před 5 měsíci +28

      I actually agree that the third act in the book is all rushed. It funny after reading the book I felt like it could’ve been longer and I felt the same way leaving the movie-that I wish it was longer.

    • @adeleaslan8182
      @adeleaslan8182 Před 5 měsíci +44

      @@StormNothingsince the og director cut was almost four hours, I think it definitely shows Hollywood's refusal to have films hit the three hour mark. The movie is definitely pretty long, but for the story it's trying to tell, it should've spent more time on certain details

    • @whatsthisnonsense7842
      @whatsthisnonsense7842 Před 5 měsíci +22

      I feel the same about reading the book and knowing his nasty inner monologue before watching the movie😂i think, Tom Blyth did a great job portraying Snow's character and real intentions with subtle hints in his facial expression. And i also hope they release the uncut version, i don't mind if it's 4 hours, i'll watch it.

  • @neivilde.1242
    @neivilde.1242 Před 5 měsíci +668

    i actually thought the capitol outfits were toned down enough to distinguish it from the future. like especially the make up, this felt like a natural this is how it would've been a few years after the rebellion, before it became excessive. and also we spent so much time on the more corporate side, at the academy and such, that there weren't many occasions to show the capitol. and i liked how we could see the skyline and how they were still rebuilding 10 years later, it wasn't done

    • @mintyrainx4962
      @mintyrainx4962 Před 5 měsíci +28

      yes i agree, i also think that maybe after the 10th game the fashion became more extravagant due to Lucy's influence with her dresses unique colourful look

    • @neivilde.1242
      @neivilde.1242 Před 5 měsíci +28

      @@mintyrainx4962 yeah, and also,tigris is a designer and she becomes the main reason the capitol dresses the way they do, and you can see the beginning of that in the film, like she has early capitol vibes

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I agree. Although I wasn’t fan that because of it was the past it had to be inspired by last fashion (50s and 70s). It’s still all set in the future, this just less than the Hunge Games films. I would have made people have more in common with current fashion but in different colors and materials, and have them more attempts at ancient fashion. The Capitol is clearly obsessed with Rome, as can be seen in nearly everyone’s name.

  • @lanaloveschocolate
    @lanaloveschocolate Před 5 měsíci +265

    I am honestly obsessed with viola davis red and white outfit. Like, her dress being blood red from the head on down, because she clearly only thinks and only knows violence; and wearing red gloves to show she will sully her hands. White shoes to cover red socks? Fantastic. Even the fact that the symbolism is so 'in your face' fits her so so well.

  • @catalinachaverri1193
    @catalinachaverri1193 Před 5 měsíci +134

    I found it funny that Arachne Crane made fun of Lucy Gray's dress calling her "a clown", when in the future the people from the Capitol look more like clowns themselves.

  • @ten-ze1pq
    @ten-ze1pq Před 5 měsíci +415

    Even without reading the book, I thought it was pretty clear that every action he took throughout the movie was ultimately self-serving and that he’s fundamentally a bad person.

    • @gnomie3908
      @gnomie3908 Před 5 měsíci +8

      It is really interesting to read his thoughts vs what he actually says. I never really understood why Lucy Gray loved him in the first place maybe she just felt vulnerable and reached out to the first bright light she saw.

    • @chichilafemme6336
      @chichilafemme6336 Před 5 měsíci +22

      @@gnomie3908 I thjnk when you are starved, being sent to your death, and someone comes and tries to really help your odd (and they are attractive) I can see why she did, also she was literally cheated on before she left the district. She was in a very vulnerable state and couldn’t think clearly nor logically

  • @finalGambitShedinja
    @finalGambitShedinja Před 5 měsíci +589

    the thing that stood out to me like a sore thumb is the homework snake tank scene. It only works if Clemencia has literally 12 brain cells and no fear response.

    • @harper9246
      @harper9246 Před 5 měsíci +57

      i agree with u but i also kinda think gaul would've killed her either way and she prob knew that maybe? or wasn't sure if she was bluffing? tbh idk lmk if I'm wrong

    • @roanalexander3839
      @roanalexander3839 Před 5 měsíci +216

      Idk if you read the book, but originally dr Gaul made Snow go first and nothing happened, and only told them about the snakes after clemencia already had her hand fully in the tank. It was really interesting in the book, I’m kind of disappointed that the whole storyline with the snake mutts was watered down

    • @ritzcrackerz4921
      @ritzcrackerz4921 Před 5 měsíci +26

      Yes!! When I realized they changed it and clemencia went first I was like uhhh… how do u make that make sense lol

    • @m00zs23
      @m00zs23 Před 5 měsíci +23

      @@roanalexander3839yes, I don’t get why they changed that scene. It made no sense for dr Gaul to explain it to clemencia up front…

    • @monimon4418
      @monimon4418 Před 5 měsíci +16

      ​@@roanalexander3839YES and the part where snow was connecting the avox muts with clamencia's scales really makes you understand just how dispicable things in the capital are

  • @annemirthenies
    @annemirthenies Před 5 měsíci +369

    i feel like the costume i liked the most was def the academy uniform, i thought the androgynous and boxy kinda look was really fun

    • @alinazakharova8564
      @alinazakharova8564 Před 3 měsíci

      Fr I loved it so much

    • @miss.mirana4061
      @miss.mirana4061 Před měsícem

      The academy uniforms actually kinda reminds me of heather Chandler's look in heathers I think that's really cool and I love how it makes the students bigger than they actually are to show the capitol 's ego and them thinking of themselves as better

  • @joojishibuki
    @joojishibuki Před 5 měsíci +617

    I watched this with my boyfriend and the first thing he said when the movie ended was why were there so many characters with names that ended in ‘anus’? 😭😅

    • @CoquetteCygnet
      @CoquetteCygnet Před 5 měsíci +74

      lmao he’s so real for that

    • @newecreator
      @newecreator Před 5 měsíci

      "Well Julie, I just wrote anus"

    • @witchingbrew3
      @witchingbrew3 Před 5 měsíci +57

      They're actually historical Roman names

    • @Kille483
      @Kille483 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Fun fact: In Danish if you seperate Sejanus to Sej anus you get chewy anus or cool anus. Funnily enough cool anus sounds close to Coriolanus 😊

    • @noesuarez7940
      @noesuarez7940 Před 4 měsíci +1

      😅

  • @SarahConLeche
    @SarahConLeche Před 5 měsíci +189

    They also could have shown Snow getting his hair buzzed a few times between shots of grueling labor. To show the passing of time through how many hair cuts he needed

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Před 4 měsíci

      I thought it was pretty clear how much time passed just knowing any about the military. He would have been in training for long time before he could get time off from barracks.

    • @SarahConLeche
      @SarahConLeche Před 4 měsíci +15

      @@sarasamaletdin4574 well you might know that but I haven’t any clue about the army protocol, and I’m sure I’m not the only one

  • @paisleyq4537
    @paisleyq4537 Před 5 měsíci +439

    an ‘American Psycho’ style inner monologue here & there could hypothetically have really helped - if the actor could pull it off (& it looks like he did a good job considering the challenge of portraying all that without one !) it would have really added to the story

  • @gleewhoseline198
    @gleewhoseline198 Před 5 měsíci +729

    It's worth going just to hear Rachel sing. Especially The Ballad of Lucy Grey Baird

    • @onlysoraya
      @onlysoraya Před 5 měsíci +18

      right thats literally the best song

    • @whatsthisnonsense7842
      @whatsthisnonsense7842 Před 5 měsíci +28

      Ikr! I'm in love with rachel voice🥺❤she's a perfect cast for lucy gray.

    • @busebuse8968
      @busebuse8968 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@onlysorayak

    • @smythejane7345
      @smythejane7345 Před 5 měsíci +7

      My favorite was pure as the driven snow and I feel so guilty for liking it because he definitely does not deserve it 😭

    • @Classycaramell
      @Classycaramell Před 4 měsíci +3

      The singing was the most annoying part

  • @sparxstreak02
    @sparxstreak02 Před 5 měsíci +70

    4:23 This bit of ambiguity really bothered me 😕 in the book we find out Clemensia survived but suffered from skin mutation where her skin became colourful scales like the rainbow snakes before eventually recovering with some scarring. I know it was done probably to save time & create suspense but I just think her fate in the book added to just how sinister Dr Gaul was.

  • @sunflowers_sarah
    @sunflowers_sarah Před 5 měsíci +424

    It was an excellent movie! I think my only "big" gripe was how produced the music sounded. Like when she was singing Hanging Tree with her back to Snow, I think having it sounds more real--like she was just sitting there with her guitar, no background music added or vocal editing--would have been really nice. Not for every music scene, but I think a few of them would have benefitted!
    Great video!

    • @chileanyways196
      @chileanyways196 Před 5 měsíci +72

      It’s interesting because I believe that Rachel said she sang every song live

    • @sunflowers_sarah
      @sunflowers_sarah Před 5 měsíci +64

      @@chileanyways196 Which I believe! But my main issue is with the editing--adding background music and vocal toning afterwards :)

    • @cheeryberrie
      @cheeryberrie Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Andressadantas1208 your face is cringe but here we are

  • @redandpurple317
    @redandpurple317 Před 5 měsíci +149

    I didn't read the thg books, but I knew overall about how this one goes and Snow's inner monologue and went in with that in mind. I thought Tom Blyth did a great job because everytime he did or said something as Snow, I could see there was a veneer of, for lack of a better word, performance, and that everything he was doing was for his own interests. The most chilling thing to me was him recording Sejanus without his knowledge, sending the recording to Gaul, then acting like he didn't know what the consequences would be. To me, Snow crying over Sejanus' belongings was him shattering the very last shred of empathy and compassion he might've had. Coryo is dead, President Snow is born.
    I also loved the symbolism of Lucy Gray leaving the shack on the pretense of looking for "katniss", then 50 or so years later here comes Katniss Everdeen and the rebellion rises anew to the tune of The Hanging Tree.
    Again I haven't read the books, so I might be way off.

    • @Scarlett59319
      @Scarlett59319 Před 5 měsíci +4

      I’ve read the books and you’re totally NOT way off! 😂

    • @lulupomegranate
      @lulupomegranate Před 27 dny

      The way he said "I take care of you" with that weird curl of his lips is such a good indicator of that!

  • @bellanthea
    @bellanthea Před 5 měsíci +99

    as someone who didn’t read the book before watching the movie, my initial interpretation was that snow is someone who constantly needs to be in control, whether it’s control of his situation, what people think of him, or his relationships. in the beginning of the movie, this need for control seemed more innocent because he wanted to be in control of the outcome of the games for the sake of his future, his family, and for lucy, but further into the movie it gets warped as his need for control is shown to be increasingly stronger and more selfish, and he’s willing to do worse and worse things in service of this need. This descent was a bit choppy, and the movie could’ve done a better job showing a more gradual progression if this was the route they were going for in snow’s movie character arc. but I feel like it was a pretty interesting take, showing how this sort of trait can seem admirable when cast in a softer light, but is poisonous at its core. it also serves as a commentary on how our society rewards people with these traits, and in return, these people uphold the structure of the society, particularly all of its inequities and evils which make up its bones.

  • @twinklerose1033
    @twinklerose1033 Před 5 měsíci +454

    I have to disagree with your opinion on the tributes fashion. I thought it was absolutely brilliant the way they were all dressed as their clothing all have nods towards their districts industry and the wealth difference was clearly shown. I'll go over each of the fashion of the tributes just to name a few.
    District 1: Wore completely white outfits that were matching and similar towards uniforms. Possibly a school uniform, they stuck out like a sore thumb compared to the shags of other tributes, the wealth difference was definitely there.
    District 2: Wore more bland outfits as they aren't in the great wealth just yet they are in modern day. They're slowly rebuilding from the war and haven't been given the luxuries they have yet as the Capitol hasn't fully recovered to do so.
    District 3: Wore green factory bodysuits which were matching and showed the work labor that even kids were forced into.
    District 4: My favorite, they were sailor-esque outfits with ocean/aquatic related embroideries in their clothing. They looked nicer and even had vest and layers towards their outfits, a far difference to say District 8.
    District 5: Wore more plain outfits but Sol, the district 5 female even wore a fancy outfit with a vest and button up, a show of more resources compared to 9-10.
    District 6: We never really saw, but in behind the scenes they wore more hard materials like leather, a reference to the original trilogy and 60s-50s Jet-wear.
    District 7: Treech wore more old style lumber fashion with reference towards the 1900s while Lamina wore more traditional Lumberjack fashion with the prints.
    District 8: Great outfits as they looked the most worn-down but hand-made as their outfits were entirely made out of spare-supplies and scraps.
    District 9: Wore more plain outfits but had touches of yellow and overalls that gave reference to the farm-life many of them lived.
    District 10: Lot's of animal-related fabrics like leather and references to cowboy fashion with the many layers. As well as touching on the style in the area the District is placed - Texas and Mexico.
    District 11: Outfits had prints in reference towards the industry and wore brighter colors to match.
    District 12: The star, I loved Lucy's outfit as it looked very crafty.

    • @cozi7325
      @cozi7325 Před 5 měsíci +48

      Agreed the fashion was a highlight for me

    • @pinkstrawberrymagic
      @pinkstrawberrymagic Před 5 měsíci +120

      not only that, but Lucy’s outfit isn’t meant to represent district 12, they show that she’s covey

    • @jeremyud
      @jeremyud Před 5 měsíci +22

      the D1 tributes were dressed as cricket players, which was a brilliant touch.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @pinkstrawberrymagic
      Alps it’s better to me that covey isn’t directly shown to be some specific ethnicity that now exists (like the Mexican example in the video). They must be, since the 10th Hunger Games are set only 220 years into the figure from today. But lot still happened and some ethnicities could have merged and used different inspirations to create more unique culture.

    • @miss.mirana4061
      @miss.mirana4061 Před měsícem +2

      EXACTLY I agree with everything you said I think her opinion on the tributes fashion was a little too harsh sure I would have loved for more girls to wear dresses but the fashion was still really good and the actors looked great in it . Another detail I liked is that there are implied class differences between district partners for example the district 9 tributes, sheaf was wearing overalls and a black shirt a more practical clothes for farming meanwhile panlo was well dressed with a vest and button up even with his shoes he seemed more fancy then sheaf but still wore the same shade of yellow as her and the shade they choose for them really reminds me of fields of wheat
      Sol like you said was also dressed more fancy then Hy's in fact Hy clothes give me some industrial revolution vibes also Sol wearing blue and the way her Neck scarf was wrapped similar to a sailors uniform hints at district 5 specialization in hydroelectricity
      lamina had prints and vibrant colors in her clothes and even wore earings and her clothes fit her nicely while treech 's were plain and simple and his jacket too big for him
      It give hints at how district 12 isn't the only district with a poorer and wealther sections and the districts fashion and props for the costume designer for creating a ocean insperd look for district 4 without putting them in beach wear also mizzen has a starfish on one side of his pants while coral has a starfish on one side of her jacket and I find this matching detail to be really cute
      Also book lamina was literally wearing a flour sack and was bare feet her clothes in the movie are so much better
      Also I heard that the covey were based off of Romani people not Spanish

  • @nataliefaithrivas7658
    @nataliefaithrivas7658 Před 5 měsíci +71

    * Spoilers*
    I think something I really like though is that with Snow's character, you can see how Lucy Gray actually loved him; he was charming and seemed very genuine with his actions. I think the movie and the book are stronger together, because the former provides an image of what Snow comes off as to everyone else, and the latter is who he truly is. A good example of this is here: In the book, Snow wasn't good friends with Sejanus, and in fact thought that he was stupid, but he was always mistaken as his good friend, and they considered each other 'brothers'. The movie shows his outward mannerisms and how he actually acted, which provide a reasoning as to why people think they are friends. The movie shows how Snow acts without his inner thoughts getting in the way, while the book really captures the essence of who he is to himself, and the justifications he makes for his actions, trying to paint himself as a good person when he finally concludes that he isn't. I think the movie and the book should be analyzed together rather than separately, because it gives two perspectives on a very complex character; I think it would be a great disservice to an individual to only view one form of the story lol.
    Also, I watched the movie before I read the book; it contextualizes the scenes (that are necessary, because otherwise the songs come off cringe lol). I feel like it helped to bring a more in depth viewing of an already complex character, so I recommend watching the movie before reading the book, something I don't usually recommend btw.

    • @aarushisingh7635
      @aarushisingh7635 Před 4 měsíci +3

      i love this take!!

    • @aarushisingh7635
      @aarushisingh7635 Před 4 měsíci +1

      im also thinking of reading the book after watching the movie. for me, also, it helped that i ended up getting a lot of tiktoks diving into parts/smbolism/connections of THG troligy and TBOSAS (particularly knowing the extent of the desperation his family is in (tigris having to prostitute herself as the breadwinner)). i think that knowing what snow becomes helps a lot in trying to figure out what hes really thinking.

    • @nataliefaithrivas7658
      @nataliefaithrivas7658 Před 4 měsíci

      @@aarushisingh7635 Yes! And also the fact that even though it is not explicitly stated in the movie or book, there is clear indication of what Tigris did in order to help her family. It is not touched on in the movie as much, but through book Snow's relationship with Tigris, we can already see the person he would be later, as he comments on how Tigris selling herself would be detrimental to the family name of Snow, rather than on her sacrifice. This shows us that from the beginning, he wasn't a good person, and only truly cared about himself. You truly need to read/listen to the book in addition to the movie, because it truly reveals how twisted he is, but also there were some things that were left out of the movie for time purposes (including scenes I loved but that's too much more, you'll have to read it yourself!) :)

  • @mariiadrobot2055
    @mariiadrobot2055 Před 5 měsíci +171

    Ah it’s so weird to me that people seem to regard Tom Blythe as the only reason for people having any sympathy for Snow at the beginning of the novel. While we are explicitly told that success is Coriolanus’s only real chance at a normal life, like there is not much of a middle class in Panem that he can join. It’s a horrible system to begin with, that is further undermined by a post-war economic collapse. His anger at Sejanus seems very logical to me. Sejanus does a lot of very stupid crap, and sort of drags Snow into it, while only he has the father to bail him out and mother to comfort him. I really think that you do not need to be a psychopath to view life similarly to him in his circumstances. I feel that it’s one of those situations where people overestimate their ability to stay righteous.

    • @donsoloh
      @donsoloh Před 5 měsíci +27

      I agree; He's surrounded by superficiality and snobbishness with everyone putting on masks to maintain their public image (our society is rather similar in alot of ways). The movie in particular throws him in situations that can come back and bite him if he doesn't take action, and even if he doesn't - the stain of the possibility of having known what Sejanus was doing would forever damn his reputation. While Snow isn't a psychopath, he's definitely a contender for the sociopathic title however.

    • @taylor33tv54
      @taylor33tv54 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Same before the movie even existed I read the book and sympathized with him almost all the way through (before the very end)

    • @beatricewilliams3620
      @beatricewilliams3620 Před 5 měsíci +6

      No I totally agree. Also I feel like he started to have some character growth too, because at first he views the districts as beneath him and thought they were all evil but then he grows and starts realizing they're not bad and that they're people too which in my opinion makes his story feel so much more interesting. The fact that he genuinely cared about some people from the districts made the fact that he did what he did so much more cruel later on. Also, the fact that he, at one point (referring to when he was younger), actually deserved sympathy, in my opinion, made his cruelty and lack of sympathy / empathy as president that much worse.

    • @annieroberts2148
      @annieroberts2148 Před 4 měsíci +7

      I'm so glad someone else said this. My parents kicked me out when I was a teen and I had to at points make some hard choices that didn't nesscarily align with my moral compass - when I watched the movie I empathized with and related to Snow so deeply, and it honestly made me concerned I was a horrible person or something. But I think his choices in the first 3 quarters of the movie are understandable, and I think that while Sejanus had the right intentions at heart, his actual actions were quite selfish/reckless and constantly putting others in danger.

    • @mariiadrobot2055
      @mariiadrobot2055 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@annieroberts2148 I’m really sorry that happened to you. Hope you’re doing well!

  • @ramo4474
    @ramo4474 Před 5 měsíci +42

    While your points are making sense, I really believe they did the best with the limited time they had. The audiobook recording lasts for 16 hours, while the movie only has about 3 hours to encapsulate all of it.
    While some of the details might've got lost on the way, I think they managed to do a great job with keeping as much as possible of the book in the film

  • @cosette289
    @cosette289 Před 5 měsíci +226

    I loved the book and the movie does well on covering it. The reason why the second half fees rushed is because they were scared of separating it into 2 movies because of what happened with Mockingjay. I think maybe the directors cut with the extra hour could solve a lot of these issues, I hope they release it

    • @m00zs23
      @m00zs23 Před 5 měsíci +27

      Yes I’d love to see the directors cut! So ironic that making mockingjay into two movies and getting flack for it resulted in this movie feeling too short and like it should have been two parts. I actually feel they could have made 3 short movies out of each of the sections and it would feel fine pacing wise. It wouldn’t be hard to deep dive in each section with material from the book and it would feel more fully fleshed out. I’ve gotten so used to tv series watching that movies always feel kinda rushed to me.

    • @user-ov9ti2ju5g
      @user-ov9ti2ju5g Před 5 měsíci

      what exactly happened with mockingjay? i was like 12 when the movies came out so i don't really know about any backlash

    • @gnomie3908
      @gnomie3908 Před 5 měsíci

      I'm actually kind of glad I've come to a halt with listening to the audiobook. I'm just about to get to the bit where they go to the lake. It's just kind of dragging on.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @user-ov9ti2ju5g
      I feel old since I was already an adult when they came out and I followed box office and reviews. There wasn’t a blacklash really. The movies just didn’t make quite as much money as hoped and people thought they probably should have been better as one film. You can read reviews. But there was nothing like the mess with Divergent (last film was never even made!).

  • @ameliemydn
    @ameliemydn Před 5 měsíci +105

    Rachel Zegler was incredible as Lucy Gray Baird. Her voice was so beautiful and her acting and expressions throughout the film really brought book Lucy Gray to life. However, I really wish there were two parts - I feel like there was so much they left out ! I cant't wait to rewatch this film again though - I really do think it was exceptional, didn't even feel 3 hours long.

    • @lalalola.
      @lalalola. Před 5 měsíci +13

      her accent was what took me out of it. as someone who grew up in the south the way that it would change n leave n come back was so distracting

    • @ameliemydn
      @ameliemydn Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@lalalola. yhh i defo get that but as British person it wasn't that noticeable for me haha

    • @lala-4458
      @lala-4458 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@lalalola. im esl and i cant really tell with accents i thought it was believeable FDSJkfdsl

  • @mercuriology45
    @mercuriology45 Před 5 měsíci +264

    i think its an enjoyable movie for people who loved the hunger games, but you should definitely read the books if you wanna understand snow as a character.

  • @cosette289
    @cosette289 Před 5 měsíci +75

    Tom Blyth is so dreamy looking in this movie

  • @Silvixia
    @Silvixia Před 5 měsíci +73

    The recording that plays in the hanging cuts off before you can hear snows voice, or I least that’s what I remember, I distinctively remember snow getting more anxious as recording gets closer to the part with his voice and then it cuts off and he relaxes and think that was the case

    • @aliciabergman1252
      @aliciabergman1252 Před 5 měsíci +13

      You can't hear his voice but Sejanus says Snow's name in the recording so everyone would know he was talking to him.

    • @tina-my3sp
      @tina-my3sp Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@aliciabergman1252i thought he called out for snow to help him though ? like how he called for his mom

    • @krispo2879
      @krispo2879 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Pretty sure you could hear both of them, but that doesn't prove he was the one that recorded the conversation. That's my guess as to why lucy didn't immediatly react/figure it out

  • @pepperyiyi
    @pepperyiyi Před 5 měsíci +64

    As someone who has never read the books, the selfishness of Snow was clear as sky since the beginning. And the fact that he never knew if he can truly trust Lucy Gray was also very clear. It was started from Snow’s grandma telling him she’s using him then he started doubting. The “betrayal” was pretty clear to me… is it because the movie didn’t spell it out? Thought a lot of the criticism was actually shown in the movie (who has never read the book and only watched the movie once)

    • @swaggygirl3516
      @swaggygirl3516 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Hard disagree, I felt like I never really understood why he was doing what he did. They spell it out sure, but they don't show it, he does not struggle, we don't get why he loves her, what loving her means to him, what his punishment ans loss feels like.

  • @danyramos8139
    @danyramos8139 Před 5 měsíci +53

    For me, it is a great adaptation that streamlined the plot of the book. Yeah, there were things that couldn’t be included, but I felt it dragged on in the novel and I was glad they didn’t appear. And also, I do believe we see Coriolanus descent into evil very well, because we’re always shown his reaction, his face when people suffer, instead of the victims’, as if he was the center of the world

  • @AJtheSiren
    @AJtheSiren Před 5 měsíci +23

    I kind of appreciate the depiction of Snow in the film because he starts off as morally grey, and as the film goes on you see how his choices, how his self-preservation and need to be above people overtook his morality. His breakdown over Sej's death read so raw to me from the film, and then to have him STILL make the choice to put himself first over that and Lose Lucy Gray over it right after he lost someone else close to him made me appreciate his decent into president Snow even more. It made me feel like anyone can be President Snow if they're selfish enough and there's nothing you can do about it. Like a cautionary tale rather than one to garner sympathy for him, because I don't feel sympathetic for him knowing what he later becomes.

    • @AJtheSiren
      @AJtheSiren Před 5 měsíci +1

      After some thought and watching the video through, I think this film would have benefited from the MockingJay Treatment where it's a 2 parter. There was just so much stuff to include, and the film is already 2 plus hours long. I would have been hype for a 2 part and the first part is the hungergames, the latter part is the aftermath of it. The world would have had room to breathe.

  • @carolinec.9792
    @carolinec.9792 Před 5 měsíci +97

    This film had so much ground to cover in so little time. I agree with all of these weaknesses, but I find many of the changes and cuts created a sound adaptation given the limitations of the film.

  • @MoonlightBrillance
    @MoonlightBrillance Před 5 měsíci +20

    Ngl I feel people missed a lot of both the obvious and also subtle moments and acting from Blyth that showed Snow was NOT a good guy right from the jump. I’m glad the movie didn’t spell it out for us, it made it a lot more interesting.

  • @ariannasstudio8765
    @ariannasstudio8765 Před 5 měsíci +79

    I just watched tbosas today so perfect timing! I really loved the costume design in this movie, specifically Tom and Rachel’s. Props to the costume designer for actually paying attention to the costumes of a major male character.

  • @meccalovett4616
    @meccalovett4616 Před 5 měsíci +82

    OMG my first thought was that this should've been a high budget limited series

    • @diamondcentury21
      @diamondcentury21 Před 5 měsíci +8

      that would have been awesome

    • @abigailbartlett6084
      @abigailbartlett6084 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Yeah and there would be three episodes for each section of the book

    • @mrmdaher
      @mrmdaher Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@abigailbartlett6084the film is 3h long, so one episode would be 2?

    • @abigailbartlett6084
      @abigailbartlett6084 Před 5 měsíci

      @@mrmdaher Sounds good to me

    • @lustforlimerence
      @lustforlimerence Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@mrmdaher the film was 2.5h long, but there were some parts that were cut. rumor has it that there's a 4h cut somewhere so dividing that into 3 episodes (think bbc sherlock with 1-1.5 hour long episodes but only 3 eps per season) seems pretty plausible.

  • @heddadybvadskog-nebb5603
    @heddadybvadskog-nebb5603 Před 5 měsíci +25

    I vividly remember my friend telling me after watching the first huger games movie that she didn't like it was much as the book because "Katniss thinks so much in the book and that doesn't work on screen". And I fully get that viewpoint, and I felt it even more whilst watching TBOSAS. Suzanne Collins' greatest strength in writing is the internal monologue of her characters and how it translates so well into the actions of the characters. Like someone else mentions in this comment's section "reading ballad.... was like reading American psycho" whilst I might not take it all the way to casual serial killer vibes- it gives you such an insight into Snow's narcissistic mind. And I feel like that aspect is way less prominent in the movie, and makes certain actions harder to understand.

  • @gemmamoon5998
    @gemmamoon5998 Před 5 měsíci +38

    I think Coriolanus doesn’t come off quite as conniving or conceited in the movie as he does in the books. But as someone who has never read the books, I did come away from the movie thinking most of his actions were more calculated than they seemed at the surface level and that his primary goal was regaining his family’s status. He doesn’t seem narcissistic in the movie, but certainly self-preserving.
    I did think his friendship with Sejanus read as genuine in some scenes, but I disagree that recording their conversation ever came off as reasonable. It always seemed like a selfish act.
    Edit: Grammar

  • @loonabloo
    @loonabloo Před 5 měsíci +70

    Didn't read the book so the pacing actually felt slow a lot of the time for me. Since they kept needing to set up new acts, you don't have a good sense of the motivations and stakes in the new context and wonder why the movie is still going at the beginning of the acts. And although you don't hear Snow's inner thoughts, I thought his actions alone showed his lack of integrity and it was just his charm that could throw viewers.

  • @Elena_Petrova25
    @Elena_Petrova25 Před 5 měsíci +36

    This movie is an absolute masterpiece. Although there were a few brutal scenes, the overall quality of the film was exceptional. I'm looking forward to watching it again on Netflix or another platform.

  • @anniebonus7530
    @anniebonus7530 Před 5 měsíci +75

    I actually found this to be one of the few cases where I preferred the movie over the book. I found the book to be a bit of slog in the latter half so I was fine with the faster pacing. I do agree that they made Snow more likable in the movie, though I'm not sure how they could have portrayed his inner dialogue in the movie without it coming off as forced.

  • @alinenegrea4920
    @alinenegrea4920 Před 5 měsíci +20

    I think having the tributes being less characterized is super interesting when you look at the movie as if it is through Snow's point of view. Because he doesn't really care about them, he only cares about how they can either help or destroy Lucy Gray, other than that they're all 'district' to him. I also think it's really interesting to look at what parts of the movie people are discussing, I've seen very few edits & comments about Reaper, and a lot of them on Tom Blythe being attractive. Not that that isn't valid lol, it's just interesting that in the movie Dr. Gaul cut Reaper off and that made his actions way less impactful, which I think is why it's not talked about that much. And the way Snow is portrayed in some scenes is supposed to make him look attractive, which is also the way Lucy Gray and many others saw him, because he purposefully used his looks and his charms to manipulate people and get what he wants. So basically I think a lot of the online discourse revolves around seeing the movie exactly as 'the capitol' would want us to see it. Of course some edits and comments don't encompass people's entire viewpoints and I also don't think the people talking about the actor's looks don't care about anything else, it's just that the movie industry wants us to perceive things a certain way, and the Hunger Games criticizes how everything is a performance, so of course it's difficult to make a movie that is criticizing the movie industry, if that makes sense

    • @alienated1847
      @alienated1847 Před 5 měsíci +3

      It's so fucking concerning when she said she couldn't bring herself to care!!!! Like wtf these children are dying because they are being forced to!!

  • @hansiniede3385
    @hansiniede3385 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I also agree that it should have been a TV show. With books, there are so many details that a movie just can't capture. I feel like if it was a series we would have gotten to see more of other characters and maybe even some of Snow's inner monologue from the books. Great video!

  • @beatricenova1543
    @beatricenova1543 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I never read the book, but, from what you said, the movie portrail of Snow is more captivating, in my opinion. That is because everything he does seems mercyful and noble at surface level: helping his family, helping Lucy, helping Sejanus. But if you look deeper, you can see the oportunistic side of his actions, so you are left wondering what his honest intentions are until the woods scene, when he visciously turns againt Lucy, revealing his true nature.

  • @genevievefangirl
    @genevievefangirl Před 5 měsíci +5

    I kept waiting for you to mention the academy uniform! I remember when the first promo shots of it came out and the fans I saw really didn't like it (me included), but I have to say it REALLY worked onscreen!

  • @kylaphilippe580
    @kylaphilippe580 Před 5 měsíci +13

    I didn’t read the book but I thought they still did a good job with snow’s character. He seemed super conniving when she wipes Lucy Grays tears and she goes in for a kiss but he pulls away. It was never really a romance thing for him, just strategic. Even going back to her in district 12. She is a survivor of the hunger games and like katniss and other survivors, she would be bound to the capital and that history. It all seems like a play for power. He never really showed sympathy for the tributes and his cousin is the only one to suggest getting to know Lucy as he didn’t initially think of it. I think he cared a little but always put his interest above all else.
    The clothes makes sense for me. aww if the cousin is a designer, she can repurpose any fabric that they have. If they need to keep up the act of having money, they would put a lot of effort into their clothes to not show that they are poor. I also think it would be uncharacteristic to show the blisters on his feet for the shoes not fitting because he is the type of man to not let anyone see his struggle or discomfort.
    I don’t think he ever thought he was really in love with Lucy gray, just an escape route. That’s why everything changed when he found the guns. Just another route he could take. I don’t really think that transition came out of nowhere as we know he is not fully invested to her. We also k ow where he is going because I’ve seen snow in the previous movies. I never went in thinking he was an amazing person.
    Also I think Granmam isn’t cookey. She is the one to tell Cornelius that he needs to bring wealth and power like his dad. She basically tells him that he has to fill those shoes. She also has no empathy for the tributes and tells him to use them to get the upper hand. She seems very calculated i’m the film and i feels like Cornelius would be way worse if his cousin wasn’t there to inspire kindness in him which ultimately worked out in his favor later on.

  • @BabaCorva
    @BabaCorva Před 5 měsíci +8

    One thing I will say for the elevated styling on the Snow family is that it constantly made me evaluate the difference between Snow's perceived suffering and the more visceral suffering of the District kids. I'm not sure this was intentional by any means given that there were also attempts to show the Snow's struggles to maintain basics like food and shelter and I know that, at least in the book, the family is meant to be truly impoverished. That being said, this indicated to me that Snow's evaluation of his struggle to survive - and thus his allowance for "survival" based moral lapses - was comparative rather than absolute. His struggle was the struggle of a person who was once wealthy and who craved a return to that wealth rather than the struggle of a person coming from a generational history of poverty.
    For me, this did two things: First, it showed that Snow was an unreliable narrator of his own position, setting up his actions as morally transgressive because they were in pursuit of importance rather than survival. Second, it played into an existing theme of the Capitol evaluating its own suffering in the war and during rebellions as greater than the suffering of the Districts either during those conflicts or under the Capitol's authoritarian rule. A good example of this was in the contrast between Reaper's shrine (which I think was poignantly staged in the movie) and Gaul's promise of destruction at the offscreen death of a single Capitol child. Regardless of the context for these two images, the juxtaposition of these responses back to back hammered home to me how much the Capitol answers any rebellion, even symbolic, with disproportionate violence.
    This back and forth - Snow's belief in his own entitlement and the Capitol's belief in its own inherent superiority - is fundamental to the themes that draw me to these stories. Again, I'm not sure how much was intentional and how much was my own positionality as a capitol L Leftist watching this movie in a time of difficult world events and rising fascism. In fact, my own biggest critique of the movie is that I *don't* know how much of this messaging was intended and how much was circumstantial. Given the highly allegorical nature of this series, it's frustrating to see a certain wishy-washy-ness in exploring these characterizations. There just wasn't *enough* of the detailed story beats to sus out what we're being asked to take away from this one.

  • @daphneyspiritrue7008
    @daphneyspiritrue7008 Před 5 měsíci +36

    I know it's an old movie at this point but could you pleeeeeeease do a fashion breakdown/analysis of Cruella? After you dropped the fashion analysis for Barbie I immediately thought of Cruella and remembered you didn't actually do a video for that movie, if it's not too much to ask (it's okay if you don't have the time/interest) but I just thought the fashion in that movie was fantastic and I was a little surprised you didn't make a fashion breakdown for it, so pretty pretty please 🙏🏾🥺 could please please make a video for Cruella? I love that movie so much and the fashion is just incredible. Btw I love your channel, thank you so much for such fantastic content ❤

    • @gwengrasso1887
      @gwengrasso1887 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Mina Le made a great Curella analysis, I’d definitely recommend it!

    • @daphneyspiritrue7008
      @daphneyspiritrue7008 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@gwengrasso1887 I'll check it out, thank you! ❤️

  • @bettyl2024
    @bettyl2024 Před 5 měsíci +37

    Speaking of act III and scrapped moments: If I remember correctly, Lucy performed The Hanging Tree once during her performances in the underground club, which ended in the club getting raided by peacekeepers (with the song later being banned I believe). She also wrote it because she was at the hanging, but I think they cut that from the film as well or at least she wasn’t noticeably there. This sort of made the song lose impact for me both at the time where the film takes place and also in relation to Katniss singing the song again in Mockingjay. I was also disappointed that Down In The Meadow was scrapped from Ballad, as it makes Rue’s death and Katniss mourning for her more poignant and - I imagine - made Snow sh* himself in recognition.
    As a result the connection to the original Hunger Games trilogy fell a bit flat, whereas it was more tangible in the books. I also agree with the pacing of the film being either dragged out or rushed. For some reason the film never builds up the same amount of tension as the original films did. Despite us knowing the ending every time, the original films still have me clinging to the edge of my seat. In Ballad, the only sort of tension we get is in the rushed third act, which is a shame.
    Overall I still enjoyed the film, but like everyone else who’s read the book, I agree that the book offers a better view into how devious and narcissistic Snow really so definitely read it!
    Still waiting for a book about Haymitch’s Hunger Games, may the creative odds be in Suzanne’s favour because I NEED it

  • @girlscarf
    @girlscarf Před 5 měsíci +9

    One scene I wish they didnt cut from the books is when Lucy Gray sings the lullaby to Maude Ivory. Its a sweet moment that is a clear reminder to the main series, when Katniss sings the lullaby to Rue. When reading Ballads it made me think of what Snow's face would look like when he heard the lullaby again watching Katniss's games. Lucy Gray haunts him 76 years later.

  • @neptunite5973
    @neptunite5973 Před 5 měsíci +9

    coriolanus is such a mouthful of a name. i even had to shorten it when i read the book

  • @lineawinther3383
    @lineawinther3383 Před 5 měsíci +5

    It feels like the movie watchers were manipulated by Corio, while the readers went 'noooooooo' in the background

  • @aprilrayne
    @aprilrayne Před 5 měsíci +15

    100% Limited TV Series instead, exactly what I thought. I have seen it twice and read it over and over. This is a REALLY intense read and deals with a lot of material that is a bit of the capstone of maturity the Collins seemed to want to finally express to her readers, knowing they have aged as well, and I think Collins was bold for finally bringing use closer to the state of nature debate and in general, I would have loved to see the demise, the confliction and then rise of Snow... and likewise, the similarities to Snow and Lucy, and how both end up enigmas but on opposites of the moral compass line in the end.

  • @bigstarideas
    @bigstarideas Před 2 měsíci +1

    As a movie watcher I really like that we didn't hear any of the inner dialogue in many ways it added a lot of depth to his character in the film, which I was able to read between the lines while watching.

  • @tara5419
    @tara5419 Před 5 měsíci +14

    I agree 100% with this review, the first one that reflects my frustrations. The movie was beautifully produced, with a great cast and set. But they don't really develop multifaceted characters, nor the chemistry between Lucy and Snow. I understand the inner dialogue can't be done, but they could have kept some of the original dialogue, because some of the changes didn't do anything to benefit the movie.

  • @gracejohnson8494
    @gracejohnson8494 Před 5 měsíci +32

    I’m rereading the hunger games rn because of the new movie!

  • @paulasofiacastrovaldez8326
    @paulasofiacastrovaldez8326 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I didnt read the book, but I was squealing and kicking my feet when snow came on screen. Like the scenes he had with lucy in part 3, had me forgeting hes snow.

  • @lucyching5633
    @lucyching5633 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I felt the same about the movie. I went into the movie wondering if they would successfully be able to show just how bad Snow is. As you said, the inner monologue is such a big part of the development of his character. What he ends up doing outwardly is him trying to come off as a good person. So it's hard to show that his inner motivations are so different from his actions.

  • @Gabriela-co8ee
    @Gabriela-co8ee Před 5 měsíci +7

    i think they used highbottoms dialogues with snow to show some of his internal monologue,and it was clear that he only went to the arena after Dr Gaul said she would talk to the Plinths to help him get the prize,also its very obvious in the begning hes just helpint Lucy Gray for himself

  • @summertime69
    @summertime69 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I have a rule when watching book-to-movie adaptations to NOT reread the books, so I can evaluate the movie on its own merits.
    I also found the costuming to be a but dull overall, though I was hoping your take on Lucy Gray's dress would have been more positive.
    I do think there was some distinction in tributes. I especially loved Coral's last line that to the effect of "this can't be it, or what was it all for?" And that she was such a ruthless killer out of survival and the only way to clear her conscious of that would be if she won.
    I also love the tribute from 4 giving Marcus a mercy killing, and I think despite no lines, she really stood out to me.
    Like you, I was disappointed that the staging for Snow's apartment. I excepted it to be bear of almost anything. When they opened the fridge and it was empty, I thought "the whole apartment needs to look like that". There's even a scene in the books where tigress is boiling food on the stove and it's basically just watered-down broth.
    All in all I liked it, and it's a solid entry. I think they're trying to hit a fashion market (Lucy Gray is channeling the boho chic that is coming in trend) and would have loved to see more of that from the Capital. The world design is therefore a little flavorless to me.
    I would pay to see it again in theaters, which to me is a positive review.

  • @mariahernandez6885
    @mariahernandez6885 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Awesome video thank you! Best review video I’ve seen and I seen many because this movie made me obsessed with hunger games again.

  • @bonza8438
    @bonza8438 Před 5 měsíci +10

    I feel like Lucy Grays dress and style of the covey was inspired by Romani culture. Personally I don't really see much mexican /Latin inspo.

  • @BeStillandKnow0000
    @BeStillandKnow0000 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I love your review! yes yes yes!

  • @anawieder5003
    @anawieder5003 Před 5 měsíci +6

    A lot of people hated on Mockingjay for being divided into two parts. But I think this movie would have benefited from being 2 movies, one for the games, and one for Snows time as a peacekeeper in 12

  • @lilwinborne
    @lilwinborne Před 5 měsíci

    I clicked bc I still want to read the book at some point!! Also, I love your reviews and content! I like spoilers as well plus it’s your opinion 💗

  • @mayln163
    @mayln163 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My favorite outfit is the one Snow wears when he finds out he has to be a mentor. Tom Blyth looked so handsome.

  • @gemmaurbanski4993
    @gemmaurbanski4993 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Yes to all of this. Watching this movie with my friends was almost heartbreaking because they hadn’t read the book and it’s not like I can explain every scene that Coriolanus is thinking only of himself in every scene. Visually, I love this movie. I just wish his motivations would have come across more clearly.

  • @jovanym2931
    @jovanym2931 Před 5 měsíci +56

    Honestly surprised is the worst reviewed hunger games movie . It’s easily better than both mockingjay movie

    • @harper9246
      @harper9246 Před 5 měsíci +8

      i loved this movie as well but just curious what makes u prefer them over the Mockingjay movies? i really loved those!

  • @cloudii_6ix
    @cloudii_6ix Před 5 měsíci +4

    One thing I have to say is how her randomly singing especially in the reaping and in the arena scenes really stood out whether good or bad it gave the impression to people who haven’t watched the movie and only saw snippets on either TikTok or any other social media that “oh it’s a musical?” Which would lead to people thinking it’s suddenly a musical? And I have saw how some even gave negative reviews because of it but besides that the other scenes of her singing didn’t felt out of place

  • @joshlikesfries
    @joshlikesfries Před 5 měsíci +9

    When the first Hunger games series was first projected on screen I too young to really understood the hype around this series was until now, that I am older I finally did understand the methaphors and commentary this series aimed that. This Pre-quel re ignited the fire and potential this Series had and I’m glad it did it wasn’t a blatant cash grab

  • @krustomer
    @krustomer Před 5 měsíci +9

    I've seen the movie twice, it's absolutely amazing!

  • @rosidaze8681
    @rosidaze8681 Před 5 měsíci +32

    Personally I thought the problems you mentioned exists in the book too, Snow is a decently likable character and the first two parts of the book are incredible, and then the end he just goes bad guy mode with minimum development into that decent, the end was abysmal felt like she wanted to write a good Hunger Games prologue and forgot she had to make Snow the villian by the end

    • @Bryan_Dizz
      @Bryan_Dizz Před 5 měsíci +39

      I definitely didn't read Snow as loveable even from the start. His thoughts doesn't match his actions. He's a sociopath from the get go.

    • @CoquetteCygnet
      @CoquetteCygnet Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@Bryan_Dizzexactly, snow is a sociopath since his internal thoughts are very self serving but he presents himself as compassionate to serve his image

    • @LostGirl2112
      @LostGirl2112 Před 5 měsíci +12

      i don’t agree. Snow feels like a bad guy from the very first page. He was selfish. He hated and despised people and at the same time was nice with them. He treated Lucy Gray like she was his trophy. He never wanted to save Arachna or Sejanus. He only helped her to look good on the cameras and saved him because he thought he could be killed. Etc.

    • @jocey1364
      @jocey1364 Před 5 měsíci

      That's what I thought. I guess his convincing somehow worked on me instead

  • @itsstephanie8806
    @itsstephanie8806 Před 5 měsíci +14

    I feel like this was the book to make two movies out of. Overall they did a great job and I loved the movie but I could tell they tried to handle too much even without reading the books. The tribute’s definitely fell flat I feel like Wovey was supposed to be a Rue or a Mags but I didn’t feel that way because the tributes were never expanded on.

  • @xuanhanguyen9093
    @xuanhanguyen9093 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The movie portrayal of snow is exactly how snow would like to be portrait. It’s like he was able to manipulate the filmmakers.

  • @VictoriaHatzson
    @VictoriaHatzson Před 4 měsíci

    I love your reviews! I agree with pretty much everything that you said.

  • @summerwoodward8967
    @summerwoodward8967 Před 3 měsíci

    I remember leaving the theater utterly baffled at Snow's breakdown and Lucy's escape at the end, I actually had to google it to understand what had happened. Having not read the book I had no indication that he would have suddenly snapped and wanted to kill her after everything they'd done. Hearing your description from the books makes so much more sense.

  • @aliciabergman1252
    @aliciabergman1252 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Haven't seen a review of this movie that I've agreed so much with! I really feel like the book deserved a better adaptation because it packs such an emotional and dramatic punch that wasn't utilized. To me it felt like the scriptwriters didn't understand what makes the story and what to focus on. Even the scenes they did include like Arachne's death wasn't shot in an effective way. They should have given this moment of brutality, mockery and desperation the focus it deserved. Like you said, that Ma was overlooked, and that his own family didn't serve that great a purpose (could be used to further show who he really is). But what I hated most of all was how Coral was changed to be a one-dimensional villain which takes away from the brutality of the games themselves and how different the games were back then before the careers. I feel like they just had a list of plot points and weren't interested in larger themes, moral greyareas or emotional impact.
    (Then there were these small moments that irritated me like when Coryo critiques Grandma'm's singing or when he likes being called a rebel. He would never do that!)

    • @gracie9658
      @gracie9658 Před 5 měsíci

      This is so interesting ! I haven't seen this movie and I think I might wait and watch it on streaming later (I read the book though and I did enjoy it), but these are things I resonate with because that's how I felt about Mockingjay part 2. Your remark about the scriptwriters having a list of bulletpoints is exactly how I feel about MJ2. Disappointed but not surprised that it seems to be the same wirh this movie.

  • @xuanhanguyen9093
    @xuanhanguyen9093 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for validating my thoughts about the movie!!

  • @con__
    @con__ Před 5 měsíci +5

    This should've been a two parter movie the pacing was so fast

  • @leslygomez2200
    @leslygomez2200 Před 5 měsíci

    I absolutely loved the movie, but would have had no idea about everything that was missed from the books if it hadn't been for this video. Love to see your perspective on it! It definitely put some thoughts in my mind too.

  • @thefaceflowers5577
    @thefaceflowers5577 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I think you're idea for mexican folk dancing dresses It's a good idea because I do think Lucy gray's family origin is from district 10 which is near Texas and Mexico, which would explain her thick southern accent and her being Latina that accent nobody else in district 12 has that accent. But this is just my theory.

  • @boybriar
    @boybriar Před 5 měsíci +4

    ive read the book, but even if i hadn't snow's manipulation was everpresent in this movie. in every step he took he was calculating, reviewing, planning. the loss of his inner voice is not fundamental because you can still feel and see it. there was only one scene which felt jarring which was when he first got mad at sejanus in district 12.

  • @thackerybinx2637
    @thackerybinx2637 Před 4 měsíci

    I have watched so many recaps of the movie after having already watched the movie, but yours is the first one that made me realize, undoubtedly that the version of the movie I watched had many key scenes cut. I mean I knew that there was some cutting of the footage so that the website I watched it on and wouldn’t get caught, but I didn’t realize how much.

  • @just-trying-my-best-everyday
    @just-trying-my-best-everyday Před 5 měsíci +18

    The movie was great, but nothing and I mean NOTHING will ever top the gutting feeling of reading how Snow wished Lucy Gray were still trapped at the Capitol so he would know where she was and what she was doing at all times.

  • @anothergirlmore2374
    @anothergirlmore2374 Před 5 měsíci

    the video i NEEDED

  • @nviz47
    @nviz47 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I really appreciate the character development changed and comparisons being worked through and how that affects the overall plot narrative and how Snow's character is developed and percieved. Very interesting! I haven't read the book yet but this was still interesting; I wonder what I'll notice once I read it and watch the film.

    • @nviz47
      @nviz47 Před 5 měsíci

      (listening at the mo) and the notes on the fashion? Excellent! Good points honestly, eg. Lucy's dress existing in some sort of cultural void and the timeline's outfit's -- and the disparity of a rich character not showing that in their garb when it would have suited their character to do so.

  • @really-quite-exhausted
    @really-quite-exhausted Před 5 měsíci +6

    I only read about half of the book, but i LOVED the movie. I want to study snow under a microscope.

  • @idamaeology
    @idamaeology Před 5 měsíci +3

    I really enjoyed the movie and hearing the things they left in the book really makes me want to read to book too

  • @palmstudios3
    @palmstudios3 Před 5 měsíci +12

    For me, idk why Teslee and Circ weren’t in it. Instead, they were replaced with Panlo and Sheaf, who died in the cornucopia.

  • @gossipgirlpamie
    @gossipgirlpamie Před 5 měsíci +4

    I loved both the book and the movie. I think they did great in compressing such a complex storyline to fit 1 feature film and that is also rated G so everyone can enjoy it. I think that we should learn to separate books and movies and appreciate them in their own category. ☺️

  • @jessienerdis4179
    @jessienerdis4179 Před 5 měsíci +3

    So excited for this video

  • @jujucatjuca
    @jujucatjuca Před 5 měsíci

    what a great review!

  • @camillewilliams1819
    @camillewilliams1819 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I watched this film in Berlin and all the costume and scenery reminded me of Weimar-Third Reich Germany esp. Berlin. Like that 20s to early 30s period where Hitler took control. The District 12 gate looked like the entrance to a concentration camp. Furthermore I felt the whole thing was actually taking place in the past?! It was giving “if the Nazi’s one… but in the U.S.”

  • @moustik31
    @moustik31 Před 3 měsíci

    Im totally with you on the Gilded Age as inspiration and it would have been fun to see Snow in 18th century pastel colours and short "pants". He would have definitely have stood out and looked out of place.

  • @user-hj2jd4tm1s
    @user-hj2jd4tm1s Před 5 měsíci +5

    Loved the book, loved the movie! Susan Collins is a superb writer. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @StormNothing
    @StormNothing Před 5 měsíci +36

    I did find it interesting how they made Coriolanus more “likeable” in the film. In the book he was so awful. The fact they left out so much in the third act about Coriolanus and the plinth family was so disappointing.
    I really enjoyed Hunter Schaffer’s portrayal of Tigris. The entire world is so bizarre and every story is so dramatic and Hunter brings a grounding quality to it which feels very much like how I felt their relationship was in the book. I really wish they had shown more of his family and what was happening there though.

    • @StormNothing
      @StormNothing Před 5 měsíci +10

      ALSO when I got to the end I was like what the hell happened to clemensia??? She literally just disappeared in the film. Like what the heck

  • @Sandoler
    @Sandoler Před 5 měsíci +1

    I was a high schooler when the first movies came out. Read and watched them all in my teens. Watching BSS as an adult (without having read the book) was so hard. The knowledge and understanding that comes as we age, and have our own tragic life experiences, but a whole new perspective to the plot and the concept of the hunger games themselves. It now makes me feel sick to my stomach when I think about the story. And yet, I find myself wanting to read the book and soak up as much information about the world of Panem as possible.

  • @karensilva6076
    @karensilva6076 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I agree with you hunger is not shown in the movie. It is only explained in the scene with Lucy in the zoo and Coriolanus giving her food. I feel the main food Tigris was always cooking, cabbage, should have been shown and the importance and dislike for it. With just a few scenes of that. The food could have symbolize hunger for Coriolanus.

  • @mariatxxxc
    @mariatxxxc Před 5 měsíci +11

    and then Coriolanus became Eminem