Bajaj Pulsar F250 & N250 | Your Questions Answered | PowerDrift
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- With the launch of the new Bajaj Pulsar F250 and the N250, the #PDArmy has been bombarding us with a lot of questions. Burning questions like why they don’t have a six-speed gearbox, or if they are any better than the NS200/RS200. Another big question the Pulsar enthusiasts have is whether they will replace the OG Fastest Indian - the Pulsar 220F. Shumi has the answers that will make the buying decision that much easier.
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Hey #PDArmy, we hope this has answered your questions about the new Pulsar F250 and the N250. If you have any more, ask us below!
Would love it if PD could recommend some beginner bikes for people who want to get into motorcycling.
It's another pulsar for now, simplified.
PD can also please clarify why doesn't it have a dual channel ABS considering all 250s in the market has it as standard?
Substantial video from pd, more substantial is shumi. My love for shumi and pd is more than substantial love.😘
Was duel channel ABS not done just to keep the cost in check ...🤔
Please keep this series coming! Learnt a hell lot about motorcycles in general too.
Stay tuned.
@@powerdriftofficial Do one for the new r15!
@@powerdriftofficial let electric roll as well
@@SajidPaik much needed
Absolutely in sync with @Nishaad Joshi
"take a test ride on the D..... On the F, on the N"
Nice save shumi
I see what you did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
D means dominar
It's D250
Stop spoiling the letter D as dick
shumi is sus
That “motorcycle coming to halt in traffic from heat " no old RC390 has been harmed 🤣🤣🤣
Shumi sir, you are a prime example of how journalism should be. When I do get a chance to go through your work it always feels sustainable, unbiased and wise.
I really do get to learn a lot from your work. Lots of love and respect to you sir, and thank you PowerDrift for giving us such excellent content.
this was a PD simplified episode in disguise... this was a good video.. please do more of these..
More on the way!
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@Shumi: I agree with you when you say easy to ride bike would feel slow. Never though it in that way, but in retrospect it makes sense. I ride a Pulsar 135 LS and I 'feel' it's a fun bike in city traffic. This is something I 'felt' the day I started riding it as you call it in "Flow state", constantly keeping it in it's sweet spot ( around 6000 to 8500 rpm). It does not make a lot of torque or power with that buzzy engine , barely crosses the highway speed limits, but it does walk up and down the rev band quite well. That meant I can bang through gears 3 to 5 on open stretches, then blip down one or couple of gear as the traffic slows down then back up again. This constant choreographed dance made my office commutes a lot more engaging and may I say it, fun. While doing so I used to think I was doing crazy speed, but a quick glance down would reveal a 2 digit number.
That said, how do you think these Pulsars stack up to that use case ? Are they more Yamaha FZ like or still a Pulsar just with relaxed riding cadence. Not upgrading my bike, just in search for different riding experience.
Excellent video. Whenever Shumi goes in technicalities it's always fun to learn. Only one annoying thing, OLX Auto wale bhaiya was like a khadoos peon coming and disturbing a really interesting lecture.
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I liked this one.. it's clear .. gives a good idea about the product it feels like shumi has actually talked as if he was a lead Bajaj developer on this project.. but thanks for such gr8 content
Either Shumi is having a cold or post production has slowed the speed of shumi's speech 😂😂
Mr shumiiii! How can you be this clear. You are giving a lot of info. You are a gift to powerdrift. Expecting a lot of podcasts from you even if it's not covered by automobiles.
How beautifully he explains each and every fact ❤️
You r just awesome in explaining any topic.i remember how you explained about pulsar 135ls n its 4valve technology 10 years back.
I understood that n never forgot that..n bought pulsar 135ls..(imagine a human with 4 nostrils which will make u more efficient) u said these words that day..
Now after this explanation it is gonna be the same story..m gonna take one of these bikes..😊
Shumi speaking is almost becoming the benchmark of moto journalism..and he does it really well..he talks tech makes it really simple(which btw is not easy)..and keeps it really unbiased..like info..info..info..simple explaination..something about varun..short summary..ok..you choose..4 favourite buttons..
PD has the best combo..
Ek genius rider..ek cute cool..knowledgable rider..aisa kidhar milta hai bhai..
Great video as always PD and Shumi. Big fan. I follow your motorcycle content with great intensity. I learned a lot from watching this. I hope now people will stop pestering the RTR 200 with the sixth gear...sixth gear and everything.
Still remember shumi saying you don't ride the spec sheet, you ride the machine.
TEST RIDE THEN DECIDE
Absolutely!
Yes we really would love to have more question answer videos! Thank you Powerdrift for explaining in such a details! Liked this content and helped in understanding the reality of technologies as well!
The easy performance will be appriated by me, but I don't get the fact that it why it doesn't get a dual channel ABS even as an option and the section of rear tyre 140 would have made it look more muscular and handle well at corners.
Smaller tyre means more agility and better mileage. That's why and about ABS, it's to keep the cost at what they wanted. As Shumi said, they thought of the cost pretty much from the start.
More than a size upgrade, a radial tyre upgrade would have made a world of difference.
@@satishjoseph definitely. They are better and even lasts longer but this is a very basic bike from Bajaj so it was expected. They made this as a commuter. Hopefully the next RS and NS gets a more premium treatment for the younger fanbase.
@@sushantdutta8707 I get the sense behind using a smaller section tyre, but ABS is a safety feature and to comprise on that is a bit of a bummer, atleast as an option they could have provided as a consumer It would been nice to have that option.
@@AkshaySingh-jk2uf Apcahe 2004v and FZ25 comes with Dual channel ABS at this price point.
Pulsar 250 should also come with Dual Channel ABS.
Plz make a detailed comparison video between these two and fz 25, would like to know about difference in power n torque characteristics and overall feel of riding.
That's just amazing....
How easily you answered all the questions.....
Totally loved your way of describing each and everything in the easiest way that even a beginner can understand every bit explained by you....
Plz do more videos like these sir. Straight forward answers. Simple explanation. U jst made even more clear what, why n how these bikes are. 👍
Aye aye! Hit that Like button and we’ll have more!
It's awesome details to have such straight talks .. it's clear the mind of all the PD fans... Just two thing dual channel ABS must have and side stand kill switch / no self .. should be there in future Bajaj Pulsar series
Dual-channel ABS is definitely missed!
@@powerdriftofficial Hope Bajaj listens and adds it in the future 🤞
Of course, after PD simplified I think I would enjoy a Questions Answered series as well. It is assuring me to be informed well in every aspect while making my mind to buy a bike..
wow! i learnt a lot about motorcycles today. thanks to shumi and pd! pls keep making more of these
The thermal stability management system is THE ONE AND ONLY reason why Pulsar AS siblings failed and Bajaj discontinued it. AS had a tiny twin spark air-cooled engine that produced 17+bhp with very front heavy handling. The bikes' engines heated like aloo paratha during summers. Very often it stopped and ceased to start up again after a severe 8k-9k rpm haul. The sweet spot for my AS was 4k-5k rpm which made zero point to validate the 17bhp considering the peak torque was at 9k rpm. That bike, was a bad bad experiment. Bajaj literally skipped R&D there, and many of the customers like me suffered that in terms of maintaining a pseudo-performance 150/200cc engine with not so commuter oriented design and handling.
I am looking for my first bike am confused between the pulsar n , Apache and the x pulse 4v , test rode the dominar 250 felt it was expensive and heavy , was thinking about the classic/bullet but way out of budget at almost 2.5 lakhs , I love the way the x pulse looks and what it has to offer , apache to me looks like a no nonsense machine, while I don't know about the new pulsar , does it uphold the legacy and fun of its predecessor ,also rode the mt15 , loved it but at the same time felt overpriced , what I am looking for in a bike is easy to ride , reliable and easy to maintain while being fun and good looking , so pls suggest something , I would have bought the x pulse but at almost the same price the rtr and pulsar have more power , I have that fomo of power and torque with the x pulse
i'm in a exact same situation. Please do let me know which one did you end up buying.
RTR is best
@@sambitsahu5219 do you own one? How is the after sales experience?
dude's casually sitting, partially hidden by 2 motorcycles, rambling about motorcycle stuff for 16 minutes, & I love it !!
Great video.. I think Bajaj never announce the phasing out of a motorcycle, it's nothing new. It's always the journalists and dealers who inform us. I think Bajaj does that to ensure they can relaunch the product if the replacement doesn't work. A hope they revive the V brand and lauch a V250. Plus they have a global portfolio where such news can affect sales in region where a particular product is not being discontinued..
Would love it if PD could recommend some beginner bikes for people who want to get into motorcycling.
Anything in the 125-200cc category should be fine. Test ride to find out what you like better.
Spec sheet isn't everything..... This is a great content we should realise before considering a bike
I think it would have been easier for Bajaj to provide the 6th cog rather than explaining the absence of it.. I understand the peak power and torque is available quite early in the rev band so they didn't feel the need of it..
But the same Bajaj felt the need of a 5th cog in the Platina 110.
It took them 15 years to listen to customers to find a true replacement of the Pulsar 220 and I wonder who the customers were who asked Bajaj to stick to a 5 speed unit.
Times have changed and the competition has moved ahead.. so, banking too much on the emotions of the yesteryears Pulsars and providing a bike with almost no USP is like forcing it down your throat.
I ask for your forgiveness in advance for what might look like negativity.. but this is really depressing.. forget 3 Sparks and liquid cooling.. the least that was expected from the 250 was to have Oil Cooled, 4V and 6 speed or were we expecting too much.
It's a brilliant justification... No doubt.... But I guess speculating the consumer's "NEED" n "WANT"... Anything above 1.2 Lakh price tag, not having a 6th gear is a deal breaker.... I guess Yamaha has faced it quite well... N hv reflected in the sales as wellm... I guess bajaj should sort this conundrum via Marketing (Ads)! And as always the best motoring journalism is right here😎 "."
Very good videos they are !
As you explained that the gearbox (for the pulsar) when in development was ratioed by deciding the first and last gear ratios first and hence filling the gap in between appropriately, and therefore adding the 6th gear would've slotted in between these two (first and last) gear ratios.
But what if while adding the 6th gear, they move the last gear ratio a little taller and hence filling in the gaps which mates to the expected torque demand ?
Sare ans Clear kar diye apne Jitne bhi sare log Bol rahe the we are disappointed But you clear all the questions I'm doing Automobile engineering I know I how a engine works which engine use which type of cooling system as these is not oversquare engine nor higher raving it's Square engine and dosnt have high compression ratio so it doesn't need oil cooling system and then it's Motercycle for more torque so this bike is all about mid range and it's not higher raving engine so it doesn't need 6Th gear it's very good video and This video is ans for all Peoples
Wow this was a perfect explanation about the technology and literally every thing the company decided to put on their bikes that we needed to know as to why ? Ha ha hats off shumi 👏 very educative naration . I request you guys for the reviews and q&a for the xpulse 200 4v as well . Thank you
One of the best analysis on newly launched bikes... Just amazing 👏
Felt like watching behind the scenes of an acclaimed movie
Thanks Shumi
What an informative video!! Everything discussed in details and on point! Great work Team Powerdrift!
I wish shumi was my history teacher. Would have been much interesting
The information is on point 🙌🏻
Thanks Sudhanshu.
How beautifully Shumi answers the question - "Are they slow "
Was just awesome ❤️
A video on Dominar250's exact role and character is required after hearing what shumi said about them!!!!
Yeah need a video
And also why they have stopped d250 production??🤔
@@akashrana4148 why bro??
@@RupeshKumar-id3sw Don't know bro .... even the showroom guys aren't sure .
We like you to examine the levels of vibration and rattling in the new Pulsar bikes with the ones provided with a perimeter frame. Also why these bikes could not have been designed with a kerb weight of 154 kg the benchmark set by FZ25?. Why have the weights of Bajaj bikes climbed over time ie KTM 390 has added over 30 kgs since the first introduction. How is Honda CB 300 made with such a low kerb weight ? (Now not available in BS6). Do keep up your informative videos. 👍
Japanese bike makers have a lot more experience than Bajaj in designing engines and chassis. Engine casing is one area of weight reduction. Fortnine has a video on this in which he explains how much the casing thickness has reduced over the decades. I suspect Indian manufacturers still have some catching up to do in this area. Still, 6 kilos sound much better then D250's 20 kilo, making the latter a deal breaker.
390 is not 30kg heavier today, what gives you this idea? It could be a few kilos due to change in exhaust from under belly to a conventional one, bs6 additions, etc. Still, it remains as the lightest in its class. Check the weight of cb500, it is quite heavy to its disadvantage.
@@kurroth it was 137 kg at launch, now 167 or so, you can check with some old spec sheet
@@lvvenky9973 I found an old figure of 139 kilos of dry weight, without engine oil, fuel, etc. Weight wet was 154. Today the dry weight is 163 and wet weight is 167 kilos. Yes, weight has increased, but this duke is a different model than the old one. You were comparing dry weight of an older bike with the wet weight of a newer bike, which has a lot more electronics and emission control stuff.
@@kurroth thank you
Great n technical answers.....will definitely leave everyone fully satisfied......it was knowledgeable listening to an expert like you....hats off buddy.......keep up the good work...
Good elaborate answers from you. Always get to hear from you, plz also make video of comparison between yamaha fz 25 & pulsar n25 and f25.
In this video ,,, I learnt more than what I had learnt in my first year of engineering about the IC engines..🥰🥰
Vehicle companies should keep this guy in their launch event ..damn it was crystal clear ❤️👏👏
Hatts off to Shumi sir, you explanation was equally sensible and knowledgeable as one of Bajaj's directors. Keep up the best work and looking forward to see such contents.
If you are keen on the pulsar 250 and upset after the launch this the video and undecided on what to do , this is the video you need to watch. Fantastic explanation by shumi sir .
I am really hoping PD team can make one such video on the Honda cb350 and the Re classic 350 which is again a huge customer market and will be very helpful.
Bravo, great video! I wish you can do something like this or even the usual review on the new apache 160 4v with ride modes which seem to get no attention for some strange reason :)
Wowww….it eventually felt like going back to power engineering classes..please bring more of these ❣️
Fantastic Shumi. As usual so so subtle and to the point when it comes to explaining things and putting things into perspective 👍
An absolutely amazing explaination of the new pulsars
Will really love to see more of these videos shumi ,loved it bro .
I like the explanation on the slowness.... its the most rational and justified answer i heard in a long while as a rider.... Thanks very much Sir.....
My 6 months old son kept smiling while we watched this video together. It's that good @Shumi
Shumi is the only genuine motorcycle guy he knows everything about bikes do such videos on new bikes THANX
This is how a video should be. The right person, with more than adequate knowledge and a very different and good point of view. Good one.
Totally need more videos like these please! Love this format!
You dont need to worry about the ns and rs because they are going to stop making them. Gonna miss a ktm engine at low prices. But I hope the new ns is just amazing and it releases next year. Thanks for the informative video shumi sir.
Oh I love this kind of discussion video's ☺️☺️🔥❤️
one question which was not covered probably was that of optional dual channel abs like RE, reason being as you it can seem slow but actually not slow can be deceiving in terms of application of brakes and thereby necessarily having dual channel abs atleast as option, do you think it may not be necessary having practically ridden? can you get dual channel abs in servicing?
I have never seen such a tech specific video on bikes till date.
Kudos to you guys.
Greatt explanation...thanks a lott...
And as usual we have another question😅..
What could be the rrason behind single channel ABS
Cost cutting! Maybe
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodguy hmmm...maybe
WOW!! this was a great video... it wasnt just about the pulsars but motorcycles in general....Very informative and love the calmness in his voice....keep it coming!!!
I know we can't ignore the availability of torque but I still feel they should have named it Discover 250 rather than a Pulsar. They had around 8 years after the NS to develop all of that tech. I am not convinced with this justification for Pulsar brand especially when they have the NS which came back some 8 years back. It's an insult. Anyways, they are enjoying the market share with no competition so, their thought process is understood.
help me with riding position for R15 V4, switching from AS200 to R15 V4 I feel so much back pain, will it be hard to commute in traffics! Or is there any way to raise handle bars, I have seen some videos on CZcams for V3 not For V4.
Or shall I do any modifications to make it little extra comfortable to ride in city and highway! Or is it just my mind set that switching from AS200 to V4 is causing these many questions
Believe me Guys if you follow powerdrift seriously then you dont want to see this video because you already know all the answers. Shumi taught us all the things in past videos. He tailored all the answers for pulsar 250's . Powerdrift is a Worthy channel !!!
Q & A, comparisons are very helpful, keep it up👍 👏
Big fan of shumi❤️..Crystal clear explanations☺️ learning more and more everytime
PD release a video to justify this bikes behalf of Bajaj. Yes they made genuine points. I wonder why they didn't put these same logic in hornet 2.0 and cb200x reviews.
Just can't wait the range of motorcycles & their performance when shumi becomes the head of R&D of a company.... This man is lit 🔥... This is what reviews are all about👌👌
awesomely explained, hats off sir 🙏
Oh very gud information but why Bajaj didn't gave duel channel abs for 250 cc bike?...
Really needed session.. Tq .
Loving the content ❤️
Bro this is one of your best videos, and thank you for all the info
soo clean soo neat, its like on point no bullshit.... Love ur work Shumi!! May the force be with you :)
This is the upper level of explanation by shumi which gives the reason to subscribe this channel
Before pulsar n250/f250 there are no confusion between pulsar 220 and pulsar ns/rs because power figure are different, in the same way when ns/rs were updated there will be confusion between n250/f250 with ns/rs.
Can shed some light on offset crankshaft pros and cons
Finally someone whose talk make sense in terms of technicality, challanges, market !
Kudos to POwerDrift ✌️
Best qna on motorcycle related content ever! Shumi is a legend.
Excellent answers from Shumi as always. Don't forget to give us the exhaust note in the review.
IMO 6 gears on such a small engine is overkill.
From your explanation I think that Yamaha's VVA is like V-Tech, and Ducati's VVA is like that of Ferrari.
10:30 , on point Shumi !
Explanation is very good ..👍🏻
I would say dual channel ABS is a must for 250 cc. If it wants to compete with FZ25 . A 250 cc without dual channel ABS is clear miss . If they wanted pulsar mania and stunt men to try pulsar , they could have given switchable rear ABS but dual channel ABS is a must for 250 cc segment. Maybe 1st 250 cc with single channel ABS only in India.
Anything below 5 Bhp or 5 Nm difference is not really a difference , you would barely notice them. People nowadays get soo hung up numbers, features etc. and most of them will use the bikes in bumper to bumper traffic and maybe atmost 1-2 long trips in a year. Just buy what you like to ride , it doesn't matter if some XYZ on the road has a bike with better features.
Lovely video sir! thanks for being so patient and informative :)
I came to know that all over Maharashtra only 6 dominar 250 were sold.
Well Shumi... U should have launched these motorcycles and it would seen a lot more bookings... Awesome explanation as always...
What about pillion comfort?
Hello sir,
I am looking for a bike which is good for daily cityride,office going, occasionally / regularly long distance ride(max 60km) including highways, ladies friendly pillon seats for mother and future wife.
Are F250 and N250 capable of?
If yes (I think it's a big YES), whichone should I buy? F250 or N250?
As they look same, but as far I know N250 is good for cityrides , turning and all and F250 is good for those who do highway riding a lot or we can say for those who do daily basis for commuting
Damn nice video and Thanks for answering 🙏
Others reviewers are pretty much similar. But these kind of powerdrift videos are more engaging and gives more insight
I am happy atleast bajaj has changed their century old product line.
very well put !! can you do a review of new xpulse V4 model and the new dominar 400
Hate the pointy engine cowl though....it's like it would stab a speed breaker or something.
The way you explain things is great..after this video now i can understand why it is launched..fews days back i was like why Bajaj whyy
There are bike reviewers these those who don’t have any idea why a company launch different bikes in different segments, they only know how to pin point flaws in the motorcycle rather than understanding the business aspect of it….
PD, this is a learning and leading masterclass about motorcycles and riding requirements...
Very informative video, cleared all doubts, want more such
Technically right
New era of Bajaj
Efforts less biking
Technically upgradation
Indian auto manufacturers are not behind now...
Good efforts by Bajaj auto
Well appreciated..
Proud to be Indian
I think the Pulsar N250 has decreased in design and liquid cooling features (compared to the NS200). Using air cooling is actually a setback compared to the NS200. The best NS200 design and underbelly exhaust features are great. The advantages of the N250 are only in the slipper clutch and projector lamp. The rest I prefer NS200