Is this the Toughest Astronomy Exam?
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Take a look with me at the International Astronomy and Astrophysics Olympiad exam paper.
The question paper: www.ioaastrophysics.org/wp-co...
Solutions: www.ioaastrophysics.org/wp-co...
IOAA website: www.ioaastrophysics.org/
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"Competitive exams have a knack for beating the passion out of people by cranking up the intensity and making the pursuit of knowledge about winning rather than about understanding." - Truer words were never spoken!
I can relate, in a way.
As a kid I was good at drawing. Drawing in primary school was fun (mainly). In highschool that changed - it was another subject to be examined in, where the grade would contribute to some score. Because I was "good" at art, it was assumed that I would breeze through the art subject without having to put in much effort - unfortunately those doing the assuming didn't realise that highschool art isn't just drawing or painting, etc. I dropped art as a subject very quickly, and gave up doing it in my spare time in order not to attract attention.
It's equivalent to being pressured into the Olympics just because you like/enjoy sports or workout regularly. It doesn't mean you find joy in being a professional athlete.
You could argue that for mandatory tests, but you don't get to the astronomy Olympics if you don't already have a passion for learning.
@@theodorangelos9392 It wouldn’t matter, because by the time you’re done with the astronomy Olympics there won’t be any passion left. It’s equivalent to taking a “weeder” class in college. There are often many students who come in with a passion for learning, and then fail because the whole point of the class is just to be as stressful as possible and not to actually learn.
In India where we learn a LOT of things... WAY WAY EARLIER... While Other students learn at later stages of Uni (in the least).
And the rate of competition is SO SO HIGH... (2.5M students appearing out of 40K students to be selected)
It just totally KILLS the thrill and enjoyment of studying different subjects and topics...
Physics was my FAVOURITE subject...
Now it's one of my MOST HATED subject... Thanks to the competition...
We are only taught the formula... Only some necessary concepts... And that's it.
I memorized most of the Periodic Table when I wasn't forced (in middle school)
And now I struggle to even remember the rest of the few.
Competition sucks..!!
That's the problem with competition, it's a double edge sword, on one hand it creates a greater motivation to be the winner but on the other hand takes the joy from the others and causes many to quit out of disparity, and as we all know more heads are better than one making the final answer easier to find. Maybe if we were ants all the answers would be available to us already.
Meh. If the kids can't capture these concepts, their would probably be little help in finding answers.
@penultimateh766 you think this is a realistic exam to give kids with no background in astronomy?
My grandson who is excellent with math complained about doing a recent homework paper. I’m a nurse not an astrophysicist but I love watching your videos. I told my grandson that math is a door that opens a wonderful world. Then I listed all the things he enjoys and told him when he gets older by learning math all the doors will be open. His mom said he hasn’t complained about homework since ❤
That was a problem with how mathematics was taught in my country - no-one seemed able to link the subject with things that interested kids. For example, I was very interested in electronics in my early teens, but no-one showed me how algebra, trigonometry, etc, was used in electronics - these mathematical concepts were "taught" in complete isolation to their practical, real-world use.
@@vk2ig I’m an American, and I completely agree with you. Instead of teaching subjects (math, science, reading etc. ) separately they should be taught combined. In this way all subjects are taught with relevance. I also believe all students should graduate from high school with a technical certificate then they graduate with employable skills.
At 21, I can tell for certain that the education system here is failing us miserably. When I was younger, I was always the slowest learner in class and my teachers would always tell me things like "it's okay, you won't need to learn this in the future" whenever I'd fail a math test, instead of giving actual advice on how to improve. Now I'm pursuing a degree in aerospace engineering, all because of my own effort to learn.
Having gone into and completed an Astronomy, Space sciences, and Astrophysics degree, I WISH this was the sort of exam we were prepared for in the UK, and not been just an afterthought of a Physics/Mathematics program. I would have loved learning working towards this. An interesting exam paper for sure.
i mean, i'm pretty sure that now it is, the BAAO has a lot of participants, and this year at least the british team got 5 golds at IOAA
Tibees, just wanted to say I love your calming voice. It truly allows your content to be much easier to absorb, comprehend and retain.
So true! Exams absolutely dissipated the passion i had with science, out of me. Especially obscure formulas and statistics. Fortunately I followed my second passion, art, and got into design, film and conservator/restoration
Eventually "most" do end up following (and landing on) their true passion.
It also misunderstands science in it's core. It's not about memorizing and regurgitating facts or showing how special and smart one is and how little of a life one has. It's about passion and love, making humanity better and gaining wisdom alongside and through the new-won understanding.
@@__WJK__ at least 90% people don't. Too busy surviving, no time to even find out what their passion is.
My Brother was a mathematics major. He Told me that the equations got to the point where they were no longer fun to solve. He said this was because they were Ridiculously removed from the real world.
SAME HERE! JEE exam has made it harder for me to pursue Astrophysics
Although the subjects discussed are from an area I have no knowledge of, I enjoy watching these videos because I learn a little more.
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. I love watching your videos.
“The pursuit of knowledge (is) about winning rather than about joy or knowledge” is one of the most profound statements I have ever experienced. As a docent at DMNS it gives me a unique perspective with which to approach our visitors so they don’t lose sight of my goal as their connection to science learning. Thank you for your most beloved CZcams channel.
Thank you for helping people with physics and understanding it. Your work is really appreciated and I must say that you understand physics very well.Thank you for helping people with physics and understanding it. Your work is really appreciated and I must say that you understand physics very well.
I love going out at night and identifying the constellations that point to other celestial objects, which makes it so much easier to find what you are looking for. The little butterflies are pretty on your nails. Thanks for the interesting subjects.
This is quite interesting. Thank you for shining a light (no pun intended) on a fascinating test, and also noting potential pitfalls.
Another prerequisite is probably living far enough from a major city to have skies dark enough to even ATTEMPT amateur astronomy as a hobby.
Astrophysicists.......Excellent.... Star gazing a fantastic hobby for us non math majors ...first time viewer going to check your other videos
Always nice to see your passion for academic test
Love this video! Thank you.
Thank you Tibees, for reminding me the love I have for astronomy
Thank you for your valuable content.
I could listen to this all the time.💐💝
The questions look conceptual and application of basic concepts instead of cranking up formulae. Really interesting - tried a few questions, and it reminded me of my love for physics and astronomy. The best thing is most of the details are given in the question. All you really need to do is think.
I was there when the question was proposed in IOAA 2019 as Team leader. You failed to mention the most interesting problem from this year. The South-Est-North problem.
Tibees, with your focus on discussing various exams, have you ever looked into how well success on a test correlates with success in the profession?
For my personal experience, specially in India I don't think there is a huge fraction of student who fall under this category. Talking about me I failed during the first-second stages of the astronomy Olympiad but an pursuing research now. But the students who would have passed the exams for the exam sake were really the other Jee aspirants whose only motive was to get an top notch IIT.
Great idea
@@anime_ate.realityI agree , the race for IIT is insane . I'm looking forward for foreign education, btw if I may ask , where you completed your studies and in which field you're doing research?
6:23 I still remember when I was in class 6th in 2017, our school took some students including me to Sariska, Rajasthan, in November when it's extremely cold in such a place. We stayed up until late night 2am learning how to use a telescope and learning night sky observation. I didn't take note of how cold it is until I looked at my phone back in my hotel room. Similar experience when we went there again for 3 days in 2018. It was a magical experience looking at the night sky filled with stars like that
Hello, Tibees!
Hello Lewis, and hello Toby :)
I understand this comment section is inherently going to be more intellectual than in most YT channels. But 23 comments already and no mention of the exquisite details on her nails, which are obviously on display here, was down right disrespectful.
Alright.. this is fixed now. Let's go back to the physics.
That sounds like a fun exam to study for. I wonder if I could spare the time to learn enough to do well in it?
I participated in IOAA2023 (winning silver medal, from Thailand), and I’d like to say that while competitive exams are actually intense and difficult, the participants are very passionate about their discussion in astronomy and astrophysics. IOAA has excelled in their purpose to increase collaboration between countries, and for the participants to have fun. Most of us didn’t find the exam to be ‘difficult’, but ‘interesting’. For example, IOAA2023 Theory #6 caught us off guard as a geometry problem in disguise. All in all, I think competitive exams are simply a test whether one has true passion or not. People who actually have passion (like those who made it to an IOAA medalist) will excel whether it’s in competitive exams or a scientific career.
Another inspiring vídeo. Congrats Tibee. What are the figures in your nails? They seem to be snow flakes but could be little stars too.
okay the contrast between the voice (induces lower level of brain activity) and content (demands higher) is weird, not in a bad way.
I love you tibees
Great video.
I’ve been sick all week and have been binging your videos (again) so I actually said “New Tibees! :D” out loud when I saw this video posted LOL
Totally agree, Ruining fun for astrophysics and astronomy lovers for the seck of winning is really boring and makes STEM more aviodable, In other hand we need smart STEMs to solve hard problems.
how about making a video on the history of math . How people started counting and other things and how those evolved
THANK YOU
For spooky season, The Shadow Out of Time, Lovecraft. If Aussies don't celebrate Halloween (I know I'm early too), then The Dream of the Ridiculous Man by Doestoyeveski is a nice light read. My best explanation for how those kids could know so much. Ch 6. Myshkin vibes. But idk, I'm just Kafka at the Castle.
Wow, Thanks, awesome ❤
This girl is literally inspiring me to be a physicist 😢❤ i want to be a theoretical physicist oneday 😔💜
Thanks alot ❤
Awesome!! :)
Thank you
Could you make a video about the books written by John Horton Conway? Why is his tone always so special ?
And how did you go with viewing the Ring Nebula in Lyra?
I have an old 8" Celestron (Schmidt Cassegrain) and it has just enough light collecting power to resolve it. But it's an "averted vision" object - you can't look directly at it, you have to look off to one side and keep shifting your view every 10-15 seconds as the indigo purple is exhausted in your eye's rod cells (which means you cannot see it in colour with an 8" SCT).
You should look at romanian's medical school entry exam, would be very interesting. There s two type of exams:
Anatomy + Chemistry
Anatomy + Physics
Thank you.
your voice's so soothing
you should see the tests I have to deal with.
That's a lot of rote memorization of things you can easily Google, or things that don't seem to be relevant in real work (the history/date memorization question, for example). Or one of the practical questions asks for the UTC time of the observation, but the proctor will only provide CEST, so the student needs to remember CEST is UTC+2 - was this necessary or was it done just to make the exam more stressful?
Can you make a full course video Playlist on calculus
Can you do a series on category theory?
I'm so early that we're still in premodial soup
Alright A train leaves crewe at 7.15 am bound for Ipswich. It travels at an average speed of 14mph. Stopping 11 times along the way for an average of 6 minutes.
Just watched you International Physics Olympiad video... Siobhan would've aced this back in school
Very interesting ! Thanks.
I wonder if the exam offers any exposure to the issues raised by Tom Van Flandern, PhD in astronomy, specializing in Celestial Mechanics. He found in his work/research in orbital dynamics the problems with current gravity calculation rules that are ignored by the establishment. Not likely, but that would be the time to expose young minds to the questions that physics still cannot answer.
I'd like to see more topics on our "Solar System" and "nearby" space, perhaps our region of the galaxy. I have to wonder if there are more jobs, or will be, for instance (over upcoming decades) regarding NASA and private enterprise activities in our own corner of space, rather than dealing with the fascinating aspects of FURTHER-distant space? Yet I've been more than once surprised at my own past and ongoing ignorance of our own solar system. And yet there can be plenty fascinating, I assume, about the solar system and Milky Way, too. Even simplistic questions could be of interest. For instance, are the planet's orbits around the Sun basically or approximately in the same plane? And if so, why? Are the planets orbits all rotating the Sun in the same general direction, or sort of some "clockwise", and others "counterclockwise". And IF the same basic direction, why? How about the moons of the various planets? Do they orbit in similar "Planes" or this way and that? Do they tend to orbit in similar "directions" for a given planet? How do moon orbits compare from planet to planet? How about Saturn's rings? Are they aligned somehow with Saturn's plane of orbit? Tilted relative to Saturn's orbit? Seemingly, Earth rotates basically daily, but on a bit of a tilt and slow wobble, rather than strictly perpendicular to the Sun. How about the other planets? Are they similar in that respect, or might some rotate in significantly different/tilt orientations, perhaps with "poles" more horizontal or perpendicular/vertical relating to their orbits? Seemingly, Earth's Moon has a "dark side" which generally faces away from us, so that the Moon is rotating relative to the Sun, as it circles Earth, our moon's known side facing us? So, relative to Earth, it almost seems as though the Moon is NOT "rotating" as to our views of it? How about the moons of Mars , Jupiter, Saturn, etc? Do some or many of them have rotation in respect to their associated planet? Are any similar to our moon in that "dark side" respect? If a planet has multiple moons, do they rotate or not, similarly to each other, for a given planet? Or might some rotate one way, others other ways? An do they orbit their planet similarly, or in varied ways? I think knowing more about our own "Solar System" may be "relevant" and inspiring towards our more likely explorations and maybe business and jobs of the "forseeable" future.
Is elevation angle the same as Altitude?
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Completely agree about tests taking away passion. I’ve always loved Physics, but college exams ruined my passion for it. You’re forced to study things that normally wouldn’t interest you in the pursuit of “general knowledge”. But being able to obsessively learn what you want can send you down some very interesting rabbit holes and give you new insights that others may not have. It strips you of individuality, and you just end up knowing what everyone else already knows
My only achievement in this exam is that I have seen a person who won a medal in it up close(not in a crowd)😂
Lol.... The electron traveling as a wave is so simple to understand it's.....
I have prepared for this exam, I have cracked first and second round of this examination but in the national round I couldn't get into the top 5 rank so couldn't participate in the international. Now I look back and think that I shouldn't have wasted my time. Because I'm going to be judged upon my grades.
The very first question being a history question rather than a being an astronomy question irks me. I dont need to know anything about darwins past to have sound knowledge of evolution, and to prove that point to the doubters, i bet half of you have never heard about alfred russel wallace, the guy who was a co authored with darwin on thier first published paper about evolution.
What is the age limit for this exam .
what is the age limit for this exam
Love your nails! 😊
Me: I like your funny words magic man
For theft is hand chopped for 2ed dimension theft is head chopped. But for you (because you so lovely) is no chocolates for 1 week!
the question of what shadow would be longer is wrong ,a summer shadow would last longer
It's you
Hows our 2d friend? Is it still on the island? Lol
She has her name on her pencil
thanks alot , i would prefer that you decide to explain science rather papers history and some stuff made me feel like all people are same ,
we do need to reach your mind not your exams analysis please Tibees , do you here me???
Hi, are you an emissary from the 5th dimension sent to educate and diplomacize with us?
I like your finger nails. Interesting choice for your filming.
I got an F just watching the test!!
It’s a good thing for me I went to medical school.
I thought it was find the elden ring for a sec. 😂😅
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dédicace a ceux qui sont là grâce à Antoine Dianel, je vous souhaite une bonne nuit
Tibee i want to ask that some thing in physics cant be mathematically proved and some thing like + and- charges attracts cant even . Why so??
Astrophysics, an EXAM for HIGH-SCHOOL students!!!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL F-
-by a masters student facing difficulty in solving gyroscopic problems
Light pollution is a problem for me. Time is not my friend.
If (x-4)^y/(x+y)^4=3 and (x)^y=73.212121 Then find the maximum value of y-x
Please solve this
its a number, duh
...or no solution
there, i have the answer :p
it is either no number or any number
(much smart :) )
w e e d e a t e r
Hi
Indian ❤
Q.
In Bible when Yeshua - Jesus
Was born was it Jupiter - or a Big comet that the Wise guy's from the middle East followed ...
It was Big , Bright & moved to Jerusalem .....
Toby, why bother studying physics when there are precisely zero jobs in this field in my state?
No. I am sorry.
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How much cosmology influence astrophysicist? Is there still free minds around academies 🤔
I feel like this isn't for people "interested in astronomy." It's more for people who like to torture themselves with math.
What do you think actual astronomy (or any science really) entails?
Why are we here in this life? Why do we die? What will happen to us after death?
First i guess😂
Your guess was wrong
Anyway we could save ourselves and go to the Stars if we live like the Amish and stop giving money to Big Business and started giving it to charity instead
We were just downsize how much money the rich people got but they would still get money it would just be more equal
So we can go live like the Amish and earn money...... And the government could still have power in all the rich people could still be rich
They can build billion dollar stadiums but they can't build a place for poor people to go live because we spend our money on giving a handful of people money and the rest of them have to suffer that's f***** up dude we should make athletes get real f****** jobs I know they get damaged in football and s*** and they can still work at football just don't pay him as much it's f***** up dude
I've read 80,000, and it's very poorly written.
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