Jeep Cherokee Diesel Swap Overview | Mercedes OM617 Conversion
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- čas přidán 18. 07. 2019
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**UPDATE: I have removed the MD4x4 Adapter kit and have switched to the NEW Doomsday Diesel AX15 To OM617 Adapter Kit. I DO NOT RECOMMEND THE MERCEDES DIESEL 4x4 KIT AT THIS TIME. Find that video HERE: • Jeep Cherokee Diesel S... **
Warning: LONG VIDEO AHEAD! I recognize that this video is insanely long, but in it I will cover a host of topics from a birds eye view. I wanted to show everyone how the OM617 motor fits, what special steps to consider, cost of the conversion as well as fuel mileage I have been seeing.
This swap was a massive undertaking and there was a ton of custom work involved on many different components. Because of this, I am releasing this video as the "official" introduction and overview of the Jeep Cherokee Turbo Diesel Conversion. This is the first video of many in this series. After this video I will be looking for feedback from all of you to help guide me towards other videos you would like to see. I will break each component out into its own videos where I can dive much deeper into the "how to" aspect of this swap.
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I appreciate how much attention to detail to paid to this video and the jeep. I know from my own projects that covering everything would make the video many hours long. You hit key bullet points and I feel like people that have good mechanical inclination can ascertain just about all of what actually went into it. Rock crawler or overlander, built jeeps are always respected when done right!
I appreciate that. This was an overwhelming project. Definitely my most in depth project so far on this jeep. Feels good though. I did another updated video the other week. I go into depth on the adapter kit because after this video it nearly destroyed my transmission. I am running a doomsday diesel adapter kit now
Bro super cool! Nice job I just picked up a mint condition 87 xj wagoneer. My dream car is a diesel swap so I got to live vicariously through u! Thankyou!
I really wasn't expecting to end up watching this whole video but, this was very informative and enjoyable. nice vid man.
Completely impressed. I love what you did with it and kept the factory features.
Awesome work; you are a master craftsman! Not to many would look thru a/c compressor tech data to find to very specific parameters!
Always good to see creative solutions. Am considering OM617 swap into '78 International Scout 2.
This is insanely cool. I am a bit late to the party, but this has to be one of the cleanest, best swaps I have seen. I would love to do something like this, but I am afraid it is above my level. I may end up just going with a Golens 4.6 stroker. Regardless, great project! Thumbs up!
Love the video. And yes I got very excited when I heard the exhaust sound from the tailpipe. I LOVE diesels.
Me too! 😬😬😬
I appreciate you posting this, will look at your whole series now, as I am about to jump into this on my MJ comanche- a 1988.
I did the same swap in my tj. I went with a mercedes4x4diesel adapter and was a little underwhelmed with the instructions (or lack thereof) and the quality of the materials. In 3 years and maybe a couple thousand miles, I’ve been through three pilot bushings. The engine also feels very unusually...shakey when revved up. Not like other on617’s I’ve driven. I see doomsday diesel has a better quality kit and a thicker adapter which brings the trans back a bit. Your swap looks terrific and I can really appreciate the work that you put into this. This inspired me to get back at it
Hey man! Check my latest jeep diesel vid. I switched to the doomsday kit. 111100000% worth doing that. Totally changed my jeep and it’s easy to switch to his kit
Very interesting and involved build . Your skill level just double good for you !
Great video. I'm building my 2000 XJ into a camper rig of sorts. Long debated pushing over to a diesel, but for now will hold onto the new swapped stock powerplant. Keep up the build!
Great video and a very well done swap
Hey there as a fellow pensylvanian,we like what youve done.im from lockhaven area.very well put together vidieo n collaboration on ur build.im running 2002 grand cherokee,but also like the xjs.keep gearing!!!snookie pa.
Saw Nate's at beeping-jeep swap. Now searching for an XJ swap, found your channel. Looking for to future videos. Our 4.0 is getting tired...
Thanks for sharing.
Doomsday diesel is the kit you need. I scrapped my MD4x4 adapter kit. Too many issues. I’ll go over all that in my next video
The music sounds so familiar! But I can't seem to place it, and it's driving me crazy! What is it?
Also, kudo's to you for all the hard work that went into this build! How great is it that we have people like you in this day and age, who spend countless hours creating and editing so that they can provide quality content that will actually be helpful. Keep it up!
I used a redesign rail shifter for my swap.. ran like a champ!!!
Really well done video keep them coming
Thank you!
Great job, brother! LOVE IT!
Thank you!
Absolutely awesome project. Hate the fact u had the initial difficulties w the remote filter. I am doing the same with a CJ7.
I've had a xj for over 20 years and I love it! Nice diesel build but im gonna stay with the 4.0 ! Just bought a new starter for it on Ebay for 36 dollars im not gonna complain!
my 96 CHEROKEE NEEDED A WATERPUMP
@@kenadams3951 DID YOU GET A WATER PUMP BRUTHER?
@@kenadams3951 I just did a water pump on my 1987 cherokee
Loved these videos so many questions
Thanks for putting in all the hard work to get it running right. I'm doing all my research in this swap for my 2000 xj. Good thing I have full access to full machine shop to help with the swap. When can we expect the videos to start rolling in?? Thanxs
Unfortunately I can't really answer that. Usually when I get window's in my schedule I crank out videos. It comes in waves
I asked about this. Glad I found it. Thanks
Awesome build and great video. Thanks for sharing. Subbed.
Great video, amazing install. I’m putting one into a yj so I’m a little more flexible on the room issue. Id like to know where you relocated the oil filter housing. Also wiring is always an issue, seeing where you tied the sensors in for the factory gauges and how would be helpful. Thanks!
Looks awesome. Great videos. Just got another sub keep up the good work 👍
My girlfriend loves SUVs and had an XJ for years. I'm a mechanic and European car fan. This makes soooo much sense.
Doing the same to a rover disco2. Taking the motor from an already swapped trooper. You done good son.
I will follow that build
ive had to rework and build a 100% custom rear sump pan, and a pickup to make use of the pickup. i have built a number of 4.5-4.7l jeep inline 6 strokers. they really, really do a good job putting the basic 4.0 ho to shame. on adding the lift, look into the stock pickup 8 lug front and rear GM axles, theyre commonly swapped out. the stock limited slip is junk, but stock gearing was 4.56 so itll take to tall tires well. im following.
That is beautiful build man, and one that I've dreaming about myself. I had't considered a manual though I was thinking 4L60E or 4L80E since they offer stand alone contollers for those. Anyways, great job!!!
Awesome! I'm eyeballing this for later on with my XJ.
Wait for my next video. I threw out the Mercedes diesel 4x4 kit and switched to Doomsday Diesel. I hope to release that video soon
@@KeystoneCarry so u getting one of Joe's kits that awesome 👍 bro
Thank you for making this video! Because I've been going back and forth a about either a mild built 318 v8 or do a 5 cylinder mercedes diesel engine. Its for a 88 Dakota.. ( wich they did not ever put a v8 in those trucks, the v8 ones where 1990 and onward and had a different front end/radiator support and frame/ mounts are all different) the trucks built 86-89 where shorter in the engine bay meant to fit the LA v6. My saving grace is that the truck has a jeep 5 speed transmission in it and transfer case wich opens me up to any adapters for the jeep to mercedes conversion (yes I have a welder and can fabricate this truck to the end of the earth and back including making my own oil pan thats not a issue) but its nice that I can order the adapter parts, and just make mounts. Good information so far on the little details to think about. All good bush vehicles are diesel, thats all I know for certain that and the old Benz engines were built very well.
Technically they did in the 89 Shelby Dakota. All they did to fit it was remove the mechanical fan for an electric one.
That's awesome. I'm definitely interested in the how to videos
Very cool build.!!! Absolutely love a 617 a great motor 👍🇺🇸
This is a great overview.
Check out my latest. I ditched the MD4x4 adapter kit and went doomsday diesel. WAY better now
I appreciate that you stuck with factory functions and thats exactly how I like to build my jeep. I been thinking of doing this swap and this video was definitely on point. Also what part of Pennsylvania are you from? I live in nazereth next to jersey.
Great Video! I am very interested in seeing how you did your AC conversion mounts and PS pump spacer.
I'll have to do a video showing all of those pieces as they are 100% custom fabricated by me
I guess it would be worth having just for the cool factor it sounds pretty cool and it would be very unique.
this thing is awesome!!! im doing a om617 in my 98 off road rig, ive been looking into a 8mm pump and possibly compounds, its already 8 inch lift on 35s ect and long arm kit coming, the swap will just kind of complete it
Nicely done....
Awesome video. I was going to do the same thing with my old xj. I'm wondering how you got the tach and the engine stop feature?
Just got a converted jeep excited but seems like it needs some work to get to where your at with yours she needs some love going to being watching for those steering and oil pan, hooking up my kill switch to my ignition plus getting all factory gauges and ac back probably also the intercooler so much
Hard to get excited about a Cherokee engine swap when the 4 litre is like the greatest American motor ever made
I'm thinking the same
Mileage.
Except Isuzu was bought by Chevy in the 70's, thus the duramax and 4jg2. Two things left after a nuclear war is roaches and Isuzu diesels.
Couldnt disagree more!
Small block Chevy would be my choice, way more after market support than there is for the 4.0. It also produces more power than the 4.0 and weight is very close.
Turbo diesels drive completely differently from petrol engines. Once you get used to the way they feel you love it.
my dog is so mad at that intro music
Have you pulled a trailer or hauled a fair amount of weight yet and how does it handle it?
Also what intercooler did you use? What brand or car did it come from? Planning my OM617/54 Suburban swap this summer. Nice job on your swap!
Thanks i already installed nissan rd28 diesel engine in my jeep cherokee
Definitely will watch the how to videos.
Highly suggest frame stiffener for bigger lift and axles.
Front end is already braced. Definitely plan to armor and stiffen the entire rig in the near future
@@KeystoneCarry 🤘🤘
Great video. Are you closer to the east or west side of the state? Jeff Daniels in Harleysville (suburbs outside Philadelphia) seems like the closest diesel swap shop in the northeast. Would love to do a 4BT swap without getting in over my head.
I would love to see the the tear down and build up videos for the diesel
grab a honda fan switch. its an open/close switch. run a power wire from an ignition source through the fan switch to a relay, where the relay runs your fan.
Hey did you bypass the clutch safety switch? Or do u actually have to still press the clutch in to start it?
Great shirt!
I would like to gather some information with regards to a 5 speed swap for my zj and follow up with the diesel swap afterwards. York County PA.
Great video. Fantastic rig. Did you consider a cummins R2.8? I’d like to see more on how you found the motor mount locations and fab of those.
I have heard horror stories of reliability with the R2.8. Also cost drove me away from that engine. Maybe someday they'll work those out. Side note: DO NOT USE MERCEDES DIESEL 4x4 FOR YOUR KIt. Doomsday diesel is about to release their kit and it is WAY better. I continue to have issues with the MD4x4 conversion kit.
@@KeystoneCarry what kind of issues besides the blockoff plate
Great video!! Definitely would like to do this. Are you going to do a write up on a forum? You mentioned you have a website, would it be on there?
Any new updates on the diesel cherokee line of videos?
Did you use your stock axles, shafts, and transfer case? Did you have to lengthen or shorten driveshafts?
Mr Gilligan stock axles, stock length shafts. Newest video is posted and live. Check it out
Damn I’m really late here but I saw the build and it’s really clean and was looking at diesel build ideas for my 01 but thinking this might be the best idea to go with as I’m doing a 4x4 swap soon
I’ve had mine for 6 years so far and pretty clean with no rust despite the Washington weather
Is there any tips with having an automatic transmission mounted with the OM617
I only see one more vid at this time, so will you be posting more on your clearence issues with the front sump? didn't he oil pan from Mercedesdiesel4x4 help with that? I also have 4 inch lift on my MJ, will clearence be better with lift?
Righteous 🤙🏾
I bought a om 617 for swap into toy custom cab. Haven't got to it yet. I read somewhere one guy saying to use the entire merc engibe/ system. From starter, engine mounts, oil filter, radiator, powersteering, AC compressor...He said it makes it a lot easier. Of course ppl dont realize how big the oil filter is. Had I known that I would have taken everything I could. Do you think you can make that work realistically?
Nice job on the motor mounts. Im looking at putting a 302 in my 96 Cherokee. Providing i can get an adapter to the transmission. I know know how im going to build my motor mounts.
Stroke the original 4.0 and you will get better output with less headache
What made you decide to do the om617 vs the om606 ? I've been wanting to do an om606 swap in mine because they can make a stupid amount of power if I wanted and extremely easily. On stock internals the guys at diesel pump uk put down (don't quote me on this because I don't remember the exact numbers but I know it was extremely close) 700hp and 1000lbs tq
Love the intro, would you be interested in building one for a customer? Great video
L SCOTT message Joe at Doomsday diesel. He does turn key conversions for customers. Let him know I sent you
Hola se ve interesante el video saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪
OM606 in a YJ Jeep would be a awesome swap.
Great build... you think this would work on a JK?
If you used the original transmission, and unlifted stock 2wd Cherokee, maybe older to limit the issue of electronics, would it have been easier and cheaper? Do you think that the transmission would fit?
I know this is not related to your diesel swap, but could you give some info on your rock slider setup? I am interested in doing the same thing with the rocker sliders.
Did you do a build thread on one of the jeep forums? I thought I saw this one somewhere?
Hope to see you this June at the Bantam Hertiage Jeep Fest in Butler Pa Birth Place of the Jeep. Im in Butler County Pa so if you come to the Jeep Fest this year Im inviting you to go do some Local Wheelin with us. Happy Trails....
Nice! I’ll have to check the dates and see if I can make it work!!
@@KeystoneCarry I believe its Fathers day weekend but not 100 percent sure. It's the largest Jeep gathering and parade in the east. Friday is the Worlds largest Jeep parade and Invasion night Sat and Sunday is the Event Trails Rock garden venders ect typical event. We do the parade and invasion but spend the weekend wheelin better local trails than the Event trails. We have 6 to 8 of us.....We dont like wheelin at big events because we like to wheel at our pace and not be hung up in lines behind once a year Jeepers lol. If you make to The Bantam Hertiage Jeep Fest this year come Wheel with us a day or evening.
Use a momentary switch for your glow plugs.
I used a push starter switch so I wouldn't leave on or bump and leave on
Did this swap 617 ax15 into a Comanche. Got an average of 25mpg highway trails city driving.
I would have kept the Jeep vacuum canister but used a simple check valve to isolate the Mercedes vacuum engine shut off.
Add a simple timer on the glow plug circuit to prevent glow plug burnout and dead battery.
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Hey bud... wanna 4bt swap my 07dakota? Lol good work man. I hardly had the patience to swap the original block out in my junk box as is lol... been talking about putting the ram2500s hemi in my dakota but i wanna keep a standard transmission in my dakota
I got an om617 turbo diesel engine mounted to an ax15
I personally want to see more videos and in depth reviews. Like how did you work out cruise control? How did you make your gauges work? Ect
What's the music in the beginning timelapse? Reminds me of The Intro by XX
Can you provide the P/N for the AC you mentioned in the video?
Loved this video great content, you know your stuff and do not talk baby about how its done, you say it and move on. I hate guys that say put wrench on bolt and turn to left type videos. I would love to do this with my Jeep WK but don't have the workshop or time, so I just watch and dream. Keep the information coming. Thanks.
So. Just curious if you’d admired the “Black Smoke Racing” drift cars” Mercedes 123 and 124 wagons?
OM606 engines are crazy sturdy. I’m had several with 300K +(miles)that ran like new.
I’m wondering how you get through PA inspection/emissions without a functioning OBD2?
I too live in Northeast. PA
What song is that in the intro?? I love it! I wanna set that as my alarm in the morning.
Wow. A little bit of wire loom, and cable routing and it will look stock!
Nice work. The Cummins 4BT would work better in a Landcruiser, as they have deeper engine bays. That gasoline engine radiator is more than big enough for that turbo Diesel engine. The turbo Diesel engine converts more of the fuel energy into kinetic energy, hence less heat is purged to the cooling system.
Definitely do the AC video
Go with the rubicon 6.5 leafs and springs.
Also how did you get the factory ac working? Im putting the om617 in my isuzu rodeo..got the 5 speed tranny adapted myself, about to stuff it in the bay today and see what else doesnt fit..had to cut crossmember and drop rack/pinion out the way of oil sump..deal with that when i see the room left. I think my ac comp has a 5 spline pully..didn't disconnect it so I'm hoping to convert the v notch pully to 5 spline somehow so i don't have to evacuate the system.
Where did you find the seals and bearings for the engine?
How did you know what to do? as far as dropping the OM617 in and hooking everything up? Just taught yourself along the way?
What intercooler did you use and how did you mount it in there
Rear sump oil pan mod is available to make the swap much easier.
I haven't seen a production kit for rear sump. One of my friends made a custom rear sump though.
Thumbs up. I have never seen such a clean motor swap. You've done the most beautiful and smart job. By saying smart I mean from engineering point of view. Everything was done with extreme precision and thought after. I wish this world had more people like you working in mechanic shops but unfortunately it is mostly dirty lazy and careless disappointment with limited mindset. You have done something that most of those so called professionals would say impossible.
Now I'm going to ask you a question after I expressed what I think about your really nicely done piece of engineering art. What is acceleration is like and I'm not asking time for a quarter mile time or precise 0 to 60 . My question is more about how car responds to right pedal for example when you go for overtake or entering fwy. Did that engine make it quicker.
And another question why did you go with such a complicated swap when you could have built stroker out of original 4.0 which would give you 300+hp and close to 400ft/lb of torque and it would be more budget friendly build which also has tons of potential for tuning like supercharger or turbo. You can get even close to 400hp and 450ft/lb with ported head with proper valve train and custom intake and exhaust manifolds .
Would this be a viable motor choice to swap into a TJ?
Where did you source the engine from? I've been trying to get my hands on a 606 with no luck.
How do you ever expect to be able to adjust your valves with all of those hoses and stuff going across the top of the valve cover? They need to be adjusted every 12,000 miles. I have an extra 617 out in the garage and was looking for something to put it in. You have done a great job with your swap. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
12,000 miles to me is excessive. I plan to check them every year, but I run high quality oil and this motor is completely rebuilt. I don't anticipate a ton of adjustment being necessary. With that being said, the only hose that impedes removal of the valve cover is the AC high pressure line. The wiring harness can be moved about 6" out of the way. The high pressure line isn't an issue: I simply remove the AC compressor and set aside with the lines attached. I have had the valve cover off in the jeep multiple times. It does take some extra work, but it is still very doable. Thank you!
Two nights ago I pulled the valve cover and checked the valves. Just a heads up. Wanted to let you know it was very straightforward. It is tight, but possible to get the valve cover off.
Is your manifold, turbo, and downpipe insulated?
Yo that intro was TIGHT
How u do your tach on the Jeep
And are u going to be doing moreover on the videos of your Jeep soon
Did u get yours working I've got the same issue
I wonder if it’s like an aftermarket crankshaft position sensor
I don't see the part number for the ac compressor your using. Is there any chance you could post it?