Yamaha FJ-09/MT-09 Tracer Initial Review.
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- Giving my first thoughts about Yamaha's new FJ-09. (MT-09 Tracer in Europe) This Bike was built off the FZ-09 naked bike platform and houses the same power plant and chassis but with a more sport touring platform.
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I've been watching a lot of reviews on the tracer as I'm getting one soon, this has to be one of the best vids I've seen sofar. Top job. 😊
Did you get it thinking of one this year myself coming from a 1200 suzuki bandit
Thanks for taking the time to make such an in depth review. I'll be driving to Kentucky from Michigan in a week to pick up my FJ, selling the FZ07 as the longer rides are uncomfortable. Cheers and safe rides.
-Mike
+SuzukiRider82 You're very welcome, thanks so much for watching. :)
Excellent in-depth review. Thank you!
Thanks for making and sharing, very helpful.
Had mine now for the past year. Great bike. Rode it to the east coast via the New England states last summer and doing the same again this year. Found the seat very hard, but fixed that by wearing KLIM armoured shorts with padded ass under riding pants. Just ordered that screen extension.
Fantastic review. (liked the length!) I picked up little bits of info from you that were not covered in any other youtube reviews for this bike. The only thing that surprised me was your comment about the vibration in the bike. I've ridden some Triumph 3 cyl. bikes and they seems smoother to me than most twins I've ridden. I will just have to test ride one of these!! Soon!
+Steve Martin Well if you're talking about Triumph or higher end machines then it will be a smoother ride. Keep in mind the price of this motorcycle. I really haven't spent enough time on other triples to really make a full fledged comparison but I do recall those that I have driven in the past to be a bit vibey. Again not really enough data to be 100% sure.
I'm over in the Barry's Bay Eganville area and now have almost 1000kms on mine. Snowing today so not getting out. Only negative I have is the seat is like sitting on a 2 x 4. I will probably get the comfort seat as I plan on doing some long range touring. Great Review. It is a fantastik bike.
Nice review! I have a 2015 Versys (first bike) and the first time I saw an FJ-09 I just loved the look of it. Next week I'm trading in my Versys for a 2015 FJ-09 same color as yours. The FJ-09 has features that I didn't know mattered to me before. The dealer's putting hard bags on it for me, only reason I don't have it right now. It's twice the power of my Versys and weighs a little less, needless to say I'm looking forward to riding it.
Thanks for a great video. I´m in the mode for my first bike ever and i have make up my mind. Tanks.
Glad you enjoyed it :) Good luck and ride safe!
Great job on the bike! Good points about the tail section...
alunardoable Thanks, Yeah, I made that point specifically because so many people shit on the rear end without giving any thought as to why it's like that.
Hi I just brought that same bike .I put the yammaha after market windshield .seat and pipe. Now this is a great bike to ride. I had the mt07 before .
Thanks for this awesome review. I've been testing all kinds of bikes recently (fallen out of love with a problematic Tiger Sport) and I think you've pushed me over the edge to a Tracer. I need something that can take luggage and the misses occasionally but also be ready to hoon around on weekends with the lads and this looks just the ticket. I tried the Africa Twin too, which sounded incredible, however I wasn't keen on going into a corner hot on that skinny front tyre. Will probably buy one of these this weekend. Thanks again :)
Thanks for the kind words, i'm very glad I could help you make your choice. Good luck with it. Cheers and thanks for watching. :)
Nice review, watched it 3-4 times and went and bought one, going to pick it up now,lol
Lol. Nice. You'll enjoy it. It's a fun bike and i'm glad I could help you in your decision.
My cheaper FZ6R (XJ6F in Europe) has a 12V power output :) . I had it installed in my Yamaha dealer when I purchased it.
GIVI is a well know bike accessories manufacturer.
Yamaha has beautiful LED turn signals as accessories.
The hidden exhaust idea also came from the FZ6R :) .
Congratulations on the new machine.
+jorge santos I soon found out what GIVI was once I googled it, I don't normally purchase parts for my bikes that aren't for increased performance, so that one was new to me. The exhaust idea is still brilliant even though it did not originate on the FJ-09. I'm just glad Yamaha designed it. It allows us to at least have something decent looking while we save up for our fancy after market pipes. :)
One of the best reviews ...thanks !
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+Graham Spink Thanks very much for that, and thanks for watching.
awesome and detailed review.. thank you sir!
+Ahmad Hidayat Mohamad You are very welcome and thanks so much for watching.
I may be buying this bike tomorrow!
I think I would love this bike, based on what I'm hearing from all the reviews.
Yeah it's a pretty fun bike to ride.
+SonicRising Thanks for the in depth review, it was great and not long at all considering all things discussed and the demo ride. Yeah, I think this will be my next bike!
I just bought the 2019 Tracer900 GT pick it up in two weeks can’t wait hope its as good as my old TDM 900 . By the way nice review
Thanks for the comment and ride safe, you'll enjoy that bike i'm sure.
Hello,I did like your Video very helpfull and enjoyable.I just bought a FJ-09 Mat black 2017 I love it Thank Cheers Wil
awesome review just sold one for me
I discovered on my 2019 Tracer that the weird tail light assembly is also a Drone. Flip the button underneath and the rotor blades pop out. But seriously you did a good review and thanks for NO MUSIC.
LOL, thanks so much for your comment. Music annoys me too in videos, plus I'm too lazy to add it anyway lol.
Superb and relaxed review
Thanks-you for the kind words.
I notice a lot of Canadians have this bike. I got side bags for my FZ 07. I was thinking the same thing about the tail end. To get it out of the way if you add bags. so it fits what i am going to add. im glad they kept the exhaust out of the way of the place i want to add side bags.
+Jojo Gun Fang I think it has more to do with bang for the buck than being Canadian. It's a great value bike.
SonicRising Thats why i went with the FZ 07, the price was $7.500. Small engine size makes it better on gas. Upright handle bars. But still very hard core tork on take off and mid range. I doubt if i will ever race it. But it has the ability to get going fast now. It can even be a little scary. But i love it.
+Jojo Gun Fang The FZ-07 is a great bike, lots of power and is super fun to ride. You can wheelie it pretty easy too but I officially did not say it's okay for you to do that :)
Great detailed review.. thanks very much :-)
You're welcome very much :)
I bought the FJ09 in August, and pretty much agree with everything you said. The limiter on mine kicked in at 192 kph. The red line on the tach is displayed by showing longer bars. Ride safe bro. All in all, I think you get a lot for the price.
My speed limiter WAS 191-192 as well.
+PapaC2000 we match:)
Great vid. Those are dual disc 8 pistons worth of R6 spec brakes up front. They aren't performing properly if they don't feel anything but firm and crazy powerful.
Try zip tying the front brake lever closed overnight and see if that helps firm up. If that works then you had a little air.
Otherwise I'd recommend going to SS lines up front. They'll last the life of the bike and give better feel vs the rubber hoses that Yamaha says are a wear part if you check your manual for the interval.
I have the same brakes on my FZ6 S2 and SS lines were the ticket for me. Didn't bother with the rear.
Thanks for posting SR great video. Saw one of these at the local café and ever since have been researching them. Currently ride a 1200 GS but this could be a good replacement if I can get my wife to agree to it. As you said a lot of bike for the money.
Make sure you take one for a test drive first, you'll find it much different from your GS. Cheers.
Thanks I will.
Nice review, thanks!
+Erik Boon You're welcome, thanks for watching.
Hey great review..I almost bought that one from Good time. I ended up getting a new one. I came from a Ninja like you also. Maybe I'll see you on the streets!
+Dan Grace Thanks so much, yeah, if you see a dude riding an FJ-09 with a gopro strapped to his face, don't hesitate to say hi :)
The Rev limiter is 11,500 rpm. It drives me nuts too, that my fj09 or all fj09's don't show where the red line is. Nice review!
One of the best reviews of this bike..And I have seen alot of revies of this bike...Kinda weird about those blinkers..All blinkers on that bike here in Norway is led with light/clear plastic...And those headlights are led as far as I know..
+Cruiser John It's not weird at all, as he mentioned at the start it's only $11k bike.
Sorry, I must have missed your comment. Thanks for the kind words. Different countries have very different policies about what vehicles can and can't have on them, so it may be legal to have led turn signal in Norway, but not here in Canada or other countries, (at least not from the manufacturer) so the factory has to install the parts that are legal for the countries they are shipping to. A number of years ago Yamaha came out with a new R1 that had red LED break lights with a clear screen, it was awesome, but here in Canada, the law states that break lights must have a red screen on them. So despite the fact that the red LED's were brighter than the sun (almost) and clearly break lights, Yamaha had to ship with normal red screened break lights to Canada. That is why you see so many variations on motorcycles depending on the country you are in.
Very good point. Did not think of that :-)
i change my brake pads to Sintered HH, and it really improved the stopping power
Nice job..
Here's the kicker, I'm 70 years old, It's in my trailer outside, LMAO
Lol, well you're about 30 years too late for a mid life crisis, but better late than never I guess. Enjoy and ride safe.
I'm 70 as well & mine is going for a ride today.
Best place for it, you are not capable you old dog! ha ha I'll be your age pretty soon, so who am I to talk.
I confirm that it is a safe great bike - just ride it sensibly.
I got the 2017 edition for myself a couple of years ago when I hit 50. My first bike ever!
I have never know a single second of regret.
Just always ride safely Tobey.
I'm 61 and just bought a 2017 with only 2,900 miles on it
In the US , 135 mph is fast enough … my opinion , I owned the big brother fjr 1300 , and it was stupid fast … I lived two years on that velvet brut…and a happy with this fj09 … it rips …all day long … and for the money aspect , fun , reliability , you can’t beat a Yamaha … I own two .. a 2009 raider amd fj09 ,
Nice overall package for a touring bike. The brake issues you are having is not because the calipers are bad, it would be the pads that need to be changed, as the clapiers are sourced from a R6 ect, they are a Yamaha race part that is a monoblock type & quite good, also the stock rubber lines could be changed if needed for more feel to a SS type ? most likely the pad change will do the trick, go to the forums for help on witch ones to try, or good parts retailer.. Good luck. yl
+ylism Thanks for your input. I'm assuming you mean the stock pads are insufficient since they are virtually new. My main focus is brake lines first since I know that will increase brake function regardless of pads, then perhaps pads then calipers if needed. I will do a little research on the pads as you suggested and see what I can find. Thanks again.
Most stock pads are not the best, I never used them to know with your bike, but sometimes the pad change will do more than enough, seeing the lines are new and not broken down,,: -)
Yes the SS lines will give you better over all feel even with the stock pads, but having ABS with poor pads = not so great stopping sometimes, it depends on the type & stock master cylinder ability to work together ?
But In other reviews most say the front brakes are good & rear a little mushy at the worst.
ABS alone sometimes makes the bike slower to stop, and there is warnings to this effect.
Pads are a cheaper swap if only to see how much an improvement, just bed them in good.
Most likely there will be no need of any further changes then the pads & lines, if so you may have a bad bike ? Hope not.. yl
G'day SR.
Test rode this bike, and really enjoyed it. I agree pretty much with everything, especially about the dash, the best easy to read dash I've experienced on a bike. In Australia the bike comes standard with hard panniers and all the other stuff you mentioned.
I found the seat uncomfortable though and the windscreen ineffective but unlike you I thought the brakes were good and was surprised how good the back brake was (I rode an MY16 bike). I'm wondering that maybe given you bought it second hand there is an issue with your pads or lines or something else. Could be just the different expectations?!?
Not sure I've got the balls to ride over 200 km/h though, so the limiter point is an non issue for me ;-}
Thanks for taking the time to upload this review. I would like to buy a bike soon and this is right in the mix.
Cheers from Down Under, Charlie.
+Charlie M Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for taking the time to watch :) I think the break issue is a combination of the breaks being used and the fact that I came off a super-sport which has ridiculous breaks so perhaps I was a little hasty in reviewing that aspect. As for the limiter, I too don't have any expectations of riding that fast, however for the purpose of a review I thought it was good to mention it for those that have the need for speed. Cheers.
Great to hear, I'm interested in the FJ-09, waiting on the 2018 model. Great review, Thinks for sharing, stay safe.
I noticed that you tend to ride in a fairly low gear at high revs which might account for the vibrations. Is it still vibe at say 110kph in 6 and what are the revs at 110 in 6? Cheers
Agreed. Cruising along mostly in 3rd gear and higher revs, i imagine there would be more vibration!
Nice review...what about the brakes? Did you find any good option?
great video man urs was the best! what can be done about the breaks thinking about buying one
Thanks for the comment. They may be better now, but if not, braided break cables helps a lot.
Hey, SonicRising. Thanks for a great review. Just the way I like it.
In your video I think I hear a klonk-like sound when you change gears? Is that something you have noticed? Perhaps it is normal?
Kind regards from Mads, Denmark.
+Mads Ladefoged Loldrup Thanks for the kind words. Yes the sound is normal, It doesn't have a slipper clutch so shifting is not quite as smooth as it would be with a sport bike. Having said that, the transmission on this bike does seem a little clunkier than most, I had that in my video initially but edited it out for time reasons.
Sonic,
Great video! You have any issues with recalls or anything else on the bike? Do you recommend it or recommend the tracer 900 gt or the new tracer 9 gt? I'd say if this bike had cruise control & heated grips it would be really good stock.
Thanks for a fulfilling review.. The best i've seen.
You mentioned vibrations in the pegs and the bar.. Is it enough to make your hands fall asleep during longer trips?
I'm so close to buy one after this video, i just need to know if i'm going to endure hours on the highway
Thanks
The vibration is there but it doesn't really transfer into the handlebars. On longer trips you may notice your feet and legs tingling a little from it but it's nothing you really need to be concerned about. You have to remember that this bike was not built with comfort in mind, it's more of an adventure bike meets super-moto kind of deal. So you can expect a little discomfort in places on longer rides.
+SonicRising thats perfect.. i currently ride an old Yamaha FJ1200 from '86. A lovely old lady but after an hour or so my fingers turn numb and i'm afraid that i wont be able to break when needed.
plus shes heavy! so im looking for something lighter, and more fun to ride. So as long my fingers dont turn black and fall of then im perfectly happy with i little tingle
Just a little suggestion, just because you mentioned the kick stand position problem.
Just hit the foot peg up with your heel and push out the kick stand on the way down. That's the reason why foot pegs are able to flip upwards. Thank you for your review. Cheers.
I see what you're saying but I can easily see my pant leg getting caught in the foot peg on the way down. I'll give it try when I get the bike out of storage for the summer.
Good review, enjoyed it! Not sure if it was camera point if view but the clip for Givi extender seems to be right in the middle of your field of view. Is it noticeable/annoying/obstructing?
Thanks for the comment. It is not distracting for me because I'm tall so my field of view looks over it. For a shorter rider it may be an issue.
Hi, I liked the review a lot. what are your impressions a year in, especially regarding longer trips. I am torn between the fj09 and the new fz10
Thanks for your comment. The FJ-09 is great for short touring, say a couple hundred kilometres at a time. It's not really comfy enough for more than that in one go. I've yet to ride the FZ-10 but I have sat on one and in my opinion would not be as nice on longer trips as the FJ. However if it's sheer power you want then the FZ is the way to go. It's basically an FJ and an R1 mashed together. If it were me deciding, I would take the FZ.
Good review! Would you able to advice on the engine heat? Will it roast your legs while stationary?
No issues at all. Because the engine is an inline triple it is located at the front of the bike nowhere near your legs like a v-twin is.
You are a very good reviewer, if you get the chance, please test ride the Yamaha Super Tenere, would love your take on it.
Ride safe.
+gryphongryph Thanks for the kind words. I will see if I can get a review done for you but there are only 2 Yamaha dealers here, and that bike usually is not one that they let test rides on unless you are a serious buyer. I may have to wait for a demo day to get that one done, which wont be this year as it is late in the season now.
I wonder if changing the front pads to a different compound would improve the braking power.
Perfect review! this bike is coming part of my dreams :)
Btw, could you share with us some consumption (Km/L) riding it in economy mode?
Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the kind words. As for the question, I get between 20 and 25 kms per liter. Depending on traffic, etc, and is a combo of in-town and back road riding. I checked my last reading on the cluster before I posted this and it said 4.4/100kms. So that will give you a good idea, you're basically looking at 410km per tank as an average, pushing 430km if your on a road trip doing mostly highway, It's not the best I've seen and certainly not the worst, but it's average, which is what I would have expected of this bike.
Thanks for your review, I had a few good chuckles. I'm also considering getting one (my '08 V-Strom was totaled in an accident last Saturday, lady turned in front of me😬) What's the most time you've spent on it in a day? I've been spoiled with the V. Looks like a ton of fun.
+ultimateclimbing Sorry for the late reply, I must have missed your comment then work had me away from the internet for a while. To answer you question, I normally just use the bike for in town riding, I have taken it on trips of about an hour so, I'm assuming your question is regarding touring comfort but personally I can't answer that question because I have back and neck issues that prevent me from riding for more than about an hour and a half before I need to take a break and pop an Advil. But for a perfectly healthy person, I would say you could get at least 2 hours before you wanna let some blood flow back in to your butt.
Great review. My question is the seat. Do you feel like you keep sliding down the seat towards the tank ?
Thanks for the reply. No i find I'm pretty stable on it. I get what you're saying though, some bike seats kinda force you into one spot, this one seems good though, at least for me.
Thanks for the video. I am trying to choose between a Super Tenere and the FJ-09 for my next bike. Any thoughts? I am leaning toward the FJ having been riding a supersports and dirt bikes. It seem like it would be more peppy and fun to ride.
Thanks for watching. I have not had a chance to ride the Tenere yet but it is certainly a nice machine. The biggest difference I would imagine would be comfort and engine. I would assume the Tenere would be a more comfy ride but it is sporting a V-twin vs the FJ's triple which would give you more of the sport bike feel. The Twin is gonna have lots of torque but will lack the pick up you are used to. I'm willing to put money on the FJ coming out on top for cornering performance as well but since I have yet to ride one I can't say for sure. I was planning to get a demo ride on one this summer and do a little review on it but it's really going to come down to personal riding preference vs which one is "Better". Still can't beat the FJ's price though considering all it has. Cheers.
Have you slammed on the breaks to test the abs? I’ve never owned a bike with abs. But it seems like a good feature
long video but it is a very enjoyable video...
+faisal ahmad I do tend to talk a lot...lol. Thanks for the kind words, I'm very glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Hey pal, great review. I'm looking to get my first motorcycle. Could you recommend this bike for a first time rider?
Hi, Thanks for the comment. Yes this bike can be great for beginners as long as you're tall enough, it's a pretty high bike so that can be troublesome to newer riders, however, if that isn't an issue, then it's great because of it's 3 ride modes. Start off in B mode until you get used to it, then move up to Standard, then when you really want to have fun pop her in A mode. It's very versatile that way. It's also very maneuverable which is good, so if you do buy this bike, just keep that in mind if you get something different down the line because not all mikes handle as well as this one.
This is a lot of power for a newb. If you get it respect this bad boy.
Hi guys my mate has this for his first bike and he 5 foot 11 , and he past his test and had it got approx 1 year now and he has been fine , just have to respect the power and go steady ,he felt too big for the mt07 , hope that helps a little , I have the mt09 but the tank is only 14ltrs compared to 18 on the tracer , will doing a review soon on my channel of the mt09 gazworld🌍
Great review! Your voice sounds very clear in the wind while driving, what type of helmet you wear in here?
+vlinnus Thanks. My helmet is a Shoei GT Air, but I think it is more the positioning of the mic that makes the difference, I had to play with it a bit to find the right spot that didn't pick up a lot of airflow.
thanks for the review, it was really in-depth and very informative. I'm planning to sell off my aprilia dorsoduro 750 and get the tracer. Been riding the dorsoduro for 4 years and i feel it's time to change to a more practical bike that i can still have fun with. I think the Tracer fits the bill! 1 question though : does the engine get really hot while stopping at the lights? Thanks!
Azmix Razak I have not had an issue with heat so far. Haven't seen it get above 87 Celsius. It has a huge radiator so I doubt you'll have any problems with heat.
+SonicRising Hi. I got mine and in Europe this bike called MT-09 TRACER. The temperature in summer goes till 105 Celsius and than the fan starts and cool it down till around 97. So how You think is it normal or I should go to dealer? It is only 4000 km on odometer... Thanks in advance
Like a sir
I don't think you have any worries about those temps. Pretty normal for a lot of bikes to reach temps over 100C in the heat of summer before the fan kicks in. I'd keep an eye on it as the days get cooler into the fall months. If you're really concerned about it then just check with the dealer. They will probably tell you it's normal, but best to get advice from a licensed mechanic.
Great job on the review. What kind of gas mileage are you getting riding like you were?
raiderhater90 I'm getting about 300kms on a tank, riding more conservative you can probably get close to the 330km range. I have actually just set a trip to see how much I get with normal riding and will post it on my next review. I still have more to say on this bike. Specifically why the bike has a speed limiter.
Just came qcross this vlog! Great review! Are u still a fan 6 years later? Looking for trade up to 900 Tracer this spring.
Had the bike 4 years, then traded in for a ZX10-R, but I loved it, it was a great bike and tons of fun.
Did you also testride the Honda 800x cross runner? And if you did. Why have you chosen this one and not the cross runner. Nice video!
hi mate i have just bought a tracer get it on saturday am still worried about the feulling as yamaha reely fixed it mean is 2015 model by the way my name is rod i live in england yorkshire dales were roads good fun but ihave herd bad things with the feuling on mt 09 just wonderd if add any problems buddy,
Great review. Best so far. Seems like a legit bike. What’s the top speed? Can you cruise at 90 without blowing it up? Lol. I’m 6’1 and want something comfortable to do long rides on. Yamaha reliability is a huge selling point.
I bought a fresh Tracer 900 GT last week, best bike I ever owned. I will do 250kmh no prob. Handles amazing, comfortable & tons of balls. Do yourself a favour & test one.
Very great and complete review, we can't ask for better :) Im having my first bike here in Canada and can't make a choise between a Kawa Versys 650 LT or the Yamaha FJ-09. Please advice :)
Thanks so much for the kind words. As to your question, It's really going to depend on what you're looking for in performance and comfort. The FJ is going to be a more powerful bike so if you're new to riding then you should know that the throttle can be very jerky on the FJ until you understand the gear ratios and such, so it may prove to be a turn off for you, the Versys rides a little smoother since it's an inline twin so throttle response will probably feel more tame. Other than overall power and throttle response, I really can't advise you one way or the other. The FJ does come with all those nice little extras though, so that's a bonus. Really the only way to be sure you buy a bike that's right for you is to test ride them. Go to demo days or find a dealership that has them available for test rides. Never buy a bike you have never ridden...EVER!! Despite how many good reviews you see on a bike, it doesn't mean you are going to feel the same about it, everyone is different and so is every bike, you just gotta find the bike that matches your riding personality and style. Good luck and ride safe on whatever you choose.
wouldn't the B-mode help on the jerkyness issue?
Rune Madsen
It would since it tames the engine quite a bit, but you don't want to be riding around in B mode all the time, that just takes all the fun out of the bike. If you rode in B mode just because you don't like the throttle response then you've bought the wrong bike.
Great Video. Do you recommend this bike as a 1st bike? Had my mind set on a Brand new 2014 Bolt but now having seen this machine and a deal on one that is brand new 2016 has got me thinking. At any rate, I am getting one or the other tomorrow.
I highly recommend it, even as a first bike. The power modes allow you to start off slow till you get used to it, then step it up a notch and it's very easy to handle.
Ok thanx again for the info.
And also it is always nice seeing south Ottawa area.
The clutch lever/hand guard adjustment is at least 1 inch higher than the front brake lever/hand guard adjustment...compare the hand guard/air deflector "points" and you can see they are not the same...6 mil adjustment..should be level from the fac...I found they help in the cooler days, as I ride two bikes with the same gloves, same temperatures, and when in the rain, my gloves stay much drier....I found the rev limiter @ 190 km in standard mode...and will look for it again soon in A mode. The Yamaha web site declairs the mileage for the stock FJ as 18.6 kpl...with the Akrapovic header & carbon system I get 22.7 kpl...ya so if I ran the 18 liter tank dry, it would put me into the 400km zone. You have to lose the centerstand, but by doing both of these mods the fj is about 9 lbs/4.5 kilos lighter..ya..I noticed the tires are not the stock Dunlops...the previous owner must have preferred a little more dual sport "action"...I love mine fj...frikin awesome...thanks for the upload, have a great day!...from BC
acual you rear mud guard/indicator section sticks out to comply with regulations thas the number plate must either be in line or further out than the edge of your rear tyre.
Hi,
Specifications tell it has a 18 Lts tank; how long (in kms) would you go with it? avg driving. Have you done calculations in kms/l consumption?
Here is a copy of a reply I gave someone else further down in the comments. I get between 20 and 25 kms per liter. Depending on traffic, etc, and is a combo of in-town and back road riding. I checked my last reading on the cluster before I posted this and it said 4.4/100kms. So that will give you a good idea, you're basically looking at 410km per tank as an average, pushing 430km if your on a road trip doing mostly highway, It's not the best I've seen and certainly not the worst, but it's average, which is what I would have expected of this bike.
Great review! You mentioned that you found it used, can I ask what you paid? I love this bike but would prefer to find something slightly used. thanks!
Thanks for comment. I don't remember the exact number as I traded a Ninja 636 in on it, but I think the sticker was around the $8000 Canadian. I remember it being roughly 2 grand less than new if that helps. It had low Kilometers on it though, so you can probably find one cheaper than that with 15k plus on the odometer.
SonicRising beautiful. are you still riding this bike? still happy with it?
Yeah, she's still in my garage and I'm really happy with it, it's a lot of fun to ride.
From my research, I have learned that many owners have reported instability (head shake) at high speeds, just before hitting the limiter. It makes perfect sense why Yamaha would limit the bike, but not admit that it is due to design or engineering flaws. In Europe the speed limiter for this bike is said to be higher than the units sold in the United States, and it is said that is because the hard luggage for this bike is not available for purchase in Europe, which adds to the instability at high speeds. One owner states he solved his speed wobble issue by removing the windshield, removing the hand guards, and by firming up the front suspension. I have also read that an aftermarket steering damper has been produced for this bike (GPR V4 Stabilizer), but it only helps with, but does not eliminate the issue.
+Jazmine Thomas Thanks for the heads up on this issue, I will be looking into all of this once the winter decides to f-off and I can get back on the road again.
I'm wondering if anyone, who has ridden or owned this bike, has experienced a speed wobble at around 110-115 mph (175-190 kph)? I was also wondering if going to steel brake lines would help the braking performance on this bike, assuming they are rubber lines.
Very nice review.
+holymolie Thanks for the comment, for your first question you can watch my review update video here czcams.com/video/Ke8AUdbgWKg/video.html for more info on that, but the simple answer is yes.
Old post . Just picked up my Yamaha FJ-09 Tracer 900 GT . two days ago with all the wrinkles ironed out. This bitch is the best Sport Tourer on the planet. At the price point...
I like your review but you are the only one I have heard complain about the braking. Many others complimented on the FJ-09s braking ability.
Well to be honest, it wasn't really a fair review on the brakes since the bike was used, also, my previous bike to this one was a Ninja 636 and sport bikes have incredible brakes. So maybe a combo of used brakes and the unwarranted expectation of racing brake performance. Had my previous bike been a Harley, I probably would have praised the brakes.
is it possible to relocate the ignition so its not below the handlebars?
Not really. It would take a lot of time and effort to do something like that. It's just not worth it.
Ik vind die moto perfekt , heb er zelf een
Any reason you are not in 6th while cruising? Will have more vibes and noise and bad gas mileage as a consequence..
Hola. Donde consigues la extensión de ese visor. Cuanto cuesta. Esta excelente
+Ingeniería Asociada Vino con la moto, que es un "Givi". Aquí hay un enlace a la página web.
www.giviusa.com/givi-products/windshields/airflow-windshields
SonicRising muchas graciasssssssss.
I am thinking of trading my Ninja in on one of these and I am trying to find a good reason not to. Thanks for helping me make the decision :)
+trublu2nu I would suggest taking one for a long test drive or 2 before making that switch, I traded my Ninja and there are a few things you may not like (clutch and tranny for example). Give the FJ-09 a good going over before switching, wouldn't want you to regret the decision.
+SonicRising I have an opportunity to check one out this weekend, so we'll see how it goes. My Ninja is 20 years old and I am ready for something newer ;)
+trublu2nu For the money you can't go wrong. Keep in mind that this is not a true adventure bike, it is just meant to look like one. If you want real adventure bike performance you will have to spend about 5k more for something like a Triumph Tiger or a BMW GS.
Putting Brembo fast road pads on it should sort the brakes out for peanuts 👍
Bone rattling vibration? or the pleasant kind?
Well it's not bone rattling but it's not really the pleasant kind either. Its more of the "makes your butt go numb" kind.
I recommend adding stainless steel brake lines. they really made a difference on my fz09
+Thomas Odom Yes, that is my initial plan of attack on the brake issue, one step at a time. :)
+Thomas Odom i ride but i normally leave my bike stock, so the qn is how does brake lines changes the performance of brakes?
+Tony Tng the lines don't have any give that rubber lines do. When you apply the brakes, a lot of hydraulic force is being created. Rubber lines will expand while Braided lines won't. This translates to better braking and better feel at the lever.
I thought the seat was uncomfortable but apart from that for the price you can't go wrong
Als opvolger van mijn TDM 900 vind ik het motorisch een grote vooruitgang,echter het weggedrag vond ik op de TDM beter
Change pads to high end ones and put steel braided lines and your Yamaha calipers will surprise you.
I thought you were joking about GIVI. If I was buying one today I would buy the 900 GT with hard bags. Comments were made about the bike shaking its head at top speed and it made me laugh. Some riders still don't know all bikes aren't sport bikes. With bags on you probably should keep the speed under 90 mph.
Did you experience any front wobble at higher speeds ?
Yes, and quite noticeable too.
may i ask why the first owner sold it ? thanks
+Yang Yi I didn't know the previous owner but the salesman at the dealership told me he upgraded to the BMW GS, which is an amazing bike if you have the cash for it.
What year is it mate? It's the first thing we want you to say!
No way this bike would do 250-275Kph/170+ mph without a speed limiter. In Europe where they don't have it limited it goes 217kph/135mph, (actual speed not indicated). No doubt the light FJ-09 has an awesome torquey motor, but it takes horsepower for that kind of speed and 115hp won't do it. 180hp Superbikes are getting that kind of top speed and they've got aerodynamics and 1000cc motors to do it. They've also got suspension and geometry to make them relatively stable at those speeds. I agree with the speed limiter, the chassis could be dangerous at more speed than it's limited to. (About 115mph in the US) Those aren't Ohlins shocks on there and like you said they aren't Brembo brakes either and sitting up in the air like that at those speeds could be pretty dangerous and unstable. Great all around bike though, no doubting that.
+Photo314159 I know this bike won't do these speeds, I was just referring to the reasoning behind why the bike would have a limiter, which I also made a video about but despite all the research, there is still only speculation and theory. The numbers I quoted were merely to make a point that there must be some other reason for the limiter other than simply just speed.
+SonicRising Yep, well that's sort of the point I'm making too. The reason for the limiter being the stability of the bike at those speeds. I sat on one yesterday and it's a very comfortable position, but I wouldn't want to do 120+mph on one. I wouldn't trust the chassis stability in the wind at those speeds. I think it's just to save Yamaha's ass from lawsuits thing if someone were to crash one. If they disabled the limiter and did it, then it's not on Yamaha.
Can yamaha make a proper touring screen for it seriously
Traser900GT the screen you like
Really thorough review and agree with most of the points made. Would be nice to see you on motrider.com
+Sky Rider Thanks, I'll check out the site.
3th gear- 90 Km/h...for too long...?
Looks like you're local to me in the Ottawa area. We'll have to ride together some time. I have a grey FJ-09 as well. You can see it on my channel if you wanna check it out.
+PapaC2000 I'm always up for meeting fellow riders, I live in the Barrhaven area.
+SonicRising Look me up on FJ-09.org forum under the same online name. We can set it up
What windscreen clamp is that??
It's made by Givi, but I don't know which model since it was already on the bike when I bought it.
its a givi shield
hahahaha @ passing lamps
115hp and 112hp on the wheel is very good. Manny bike loose alot more from tramsmission and drivetrain.
4.75 gallons = 18 liter
+jap338kx US gallon is 4ltr which = 19ltr tank.
18 liter is 4.755 gallons. hahaha
Big improvement over the teeny 14 liter tank on the FZ/MT. It's frankly what the FZ should have had.
How much