ENGLISH GUY REACTS TO FRENCH RAP!! | OrelSan - Défaite de famille [CLIP OFFICIEL]
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"Christian" is just the guy's name. Orelsan just tells children to beware of this guy when he's drunk.
Yh, he looked way too much into that, just his name. But I get where he’s coming from
Il pense que c'est une double punchline ( Christian le prénom et le Christianisme )
@@fessouy9659 en vrai ça aurait était pas mal mais je pense pas du tout que c’était son intention
Well I think it's very much possible that Orel played with that
@@mraha9525 Well, the french word for "christian" when it's about the religious people is "chrétien" so...I don't think so.
To give you a context, in our country, Midnight demons is considered as a boomer music and Gifi is a supermarket selling cheap stuff
depuis quand c'est boomer "les démons de minuit" ??
@@trambus1144 C'est boomer mais c'est banger
@@trambus1144 c'est une chanson de boomer, pour ceux qui avaient 20 ans dans les années 80 et qui ont des souvenir de pistes de danse dans ces années.
Not boomer!!! It's at Cotoon Eyd Joe's level tbh
Orelsan played all the characters you can see in the video, and he actually made a sort of "part 2" of this song a year after this one called "la famille la famille"
Franchement faut qu'il réagisse au lyriciste RA5. J'adore ce rappeur il est incroyable et ses textes sont émouvants et profonds!!!
Oups j'ai oublié de changer de compte, la gaffe 🤦♂️
😏
it's wrong. the dog plays its own role.
@@RA5_officiel Tu m'as fait rire, bien joué 😂
You need a French person sitting next to you to help you explain the lyrics. The Internet is nice but doesn't get everything, human help is always better.
Yeah cuz we're just robots sending him stuff, translations and interpretations, not human beings at all. Are french people even real dude? It's a Google's algorythm for sure bruv.
@@Bic4Colours I am not really sure if I understand what you're saying, even though I am fluent in English.
But I sure as hell don't speak to people like that on the Internet, I have a little bit of respect and not judge people I don't know.
Have a nice day.
J'ai pensé la même depuis que j'ai commencé à regarder ses réactions
@@lespodcasques5552 j'avais le seum qu'il comprenne pas toutes les blagues :')
Yeah I'm french, and if our favorite youtuber want to make a collab i'm in xD
Plus, I'm fond of Orelsan, and other rapper because I like the depth of the lyrics
13:30 The "blond" is to emphasize the idea of the French without origin
So the sentence "you use too much wesh for a blond boy" is to support the sentence that comes after implying that the father of the young man is racist towards Arabs
Which is ironic because the father being racist his son still uses Arab terms
great reaction I laughed from the beginning to the end 😭🔥
yes
Yeah, and the word "blondinet" here can be used to mean "not so tough guy", as the word "wesh" is widely used by people who try to show some sort of street credibility
Well, as French speaker I don't think "blond" defines a French guy without origin. A "blond(e)" is a man(woman) with blond hair, nothing more. When Orelsan said "tu dis trop de "wesh" pour un blondinet" (blondinet means "fragile blond hair guy", it sounds pejorative for an adult but it is used to talk about small children that are cute with their blond hair), he just means that he is a fragile european who wants to be "fashionable"/to have street or bad boy "style" using a term of Arabic origin that doesn't fit to him. Don't know if I am clear.
@@MissZoologica Bien vu ce n'est pas faux 👏🏾je dirai tout de même un peu des deux à en juger par la ligne qui suit
Pourtant peu de français sont blonds
The only nice word was for he’s grand-ma. So cute !
Just in case you might not know, it is because Orelsan is actually really really close with her. He even has a song featuring her !
@@BIuffs yeah I know don’t worry ! The song is awesome ! 🔥💯
@@BIuffs but thank
It's also a joke about the fact that he was talking about heritage and the "real faces" of the other members of the family. So he's basically saying he's also a hypocrite and after the heritage by being nice to only his grandma
@@williamprouteau75 yeah I know. I’m French and I listen all the time orelsan, I really like his song 🎵
You must watch the clip "DISCIPLINE - Orelsan" (in portrait format it's even better).
Oh ptn ouiiiii
Y E S
Il faut trop qu'il réagisse à
*RA5-La coupe est pleine*
Quel morceau incroyable! J'adore!
😏😏😂
Orelsan’s songs often have a logic order. In an old album, Le chant des sirènes the song « double vie » finishes just like the next song, « finir mal » starts
It has been commented before that he played all the characters to show that his anger was because of his own problems and not other people, he was just being unaccepting. A good line from basique 'Si t'es souvent seul avec tes problèmes, c'est parce que souvent l'problème c'est toi' = 'If you're often alone with your problems it's because the problem is often you
Using too much "wesh" for a blond means it's quite ironic to say this word when you're white and you live in a racist household. the word wesh is mainly used in the "hood" and the kid who says it too often, probably lives in a rich geographical area which is even more ironical. He basically wants to act like a thug, except he isn't one.
It's a shame that the english subtitles on the music video aren't always accurate cause you most of the time miss a lot of the lyrics meaning
They're actually pretty good considering. This song is referencing French culture heavily though, which makes it impossible to accurately translate it without more precise descriptions. The only translation issue I have is for using the word "blond" instead of something like "blondie", which would have been more appropriate to the original word ("blondinet")'s meaning in French.
The Christian part is interesting. In French it's just a name but in English it have a religious meaning (in French, the Chistians is "les chrétiens", so that's different). So when you read it the English way, different meanings come to your mind when for us French, it doesn't. That's cool !
« Défaite »means « defeat »
« Des fêtes » means « parties » 😂😉
But it sound the same, your prononciation is very nice !
Oui on sait baguette
YEAH HE IS PLAYING ALL THE CHARACTERS 🤣
He is crazy
Thanks for reviewing almost all of his album. Hope you've enjoyed it 🙂
Since you listened to that one you should try and listen to "La famille, la famille" . Défaite de famille came with his third album and something like a year later he rereleased his album with new songs, and named ithis "version" of his album "Epilogue". "La famille, la famille" is one of those songs, and basically references this song the whole time. I don't know if it'd make for a good video as there's no music video for it and it doesn't slap hard, but I think it's nice to see how he reflects on it months later, especially since Orelsan's third album has Orelsan talking a LOT about his growth/life struggles, and La famille, la famille goes even further in that direction.
Also the part about "wesh" and "blond" is because most north-africans aren't blond haired. A "blond" guy basically means "a white guy". What they're getting at is that a white boy is using a word of north-african origin/culture quite a lot, probably without having grown alongside, or shared things with such people. The next part attacks his father, Orelsan's uncle, for having a "problem with arabs". Clearly attacking his racism (widespread in French families still to this day, and echoing the stereotype of "the racist uncle who talks too much at family gatherings") Both go together and it's easier to understand if you read them both one after the other.
Using "wesh" is no problem in itself, it's just youth slang at this point, but this cousin is basically showing off by using it+ talking about drugs/ building his image off of using the word.
It's not really that deep of a bar but I guess explaining it fully on a societal level could be long so yeah, TLDR the kid's trying to act like a tough guy/cool weed guy because he thinks it's cool and a way to do that is to use that word.
EDIT: it's worth pointing out that immigrants played a huge part in Rap culture in France, just like Black people did in the U.S., hence the connection between north-african culture and rap.
"wesh" is mostly used by Arabic ppl in France, or at least it comes from their culture and their is a huuuge problem of racism + racists ppl are obviously proud to be "pure frenchies" and most likely if they look pale, blond hair and blue eyes...
At least that's the clichés Orelsan refers to in this sentence :)
the pure french isnt'n blond hair and blue eyes this is the pure aryan race and it is in dutchland
@@larvaefriendlyproject1997 I know :) I'm actually French, we're talking about clichés only
Plus, you'll see that on the south pple are "Mediterranean" type (dark hair, tan skin, brown eyes) in the north they are more likely aryans or pale skin and between North and South it's a mix but more represented by white persons.
So if racists think that whites are better, what could be better than Aryan? (that's why our government helped nazis during WW2, but ppl don't like remember it).
And lately, their's a racist politician who's gaining popularity, her name's Marine Le Pen, her credo is something like "La France aux français" (France belongs to French)...
Go check her head, she and her political représentant is the cliché orelsan refers to in his song :)
React to "La famille, la famille", it is the sequel of this song.
check the part two of this song ! : La famille la famille la famille!
Team French on est là !
When he says "Pour se méfier de Christian quand il a d'l'alcool dans l'sang" I think the name is used to have a rime
You should react to Vald - Bonjour ! There are already the subtitles in the video clip
You should listen Plume - Nekfeu
Plume et Être humain il faut qu'il les fassent :)
damso and orelsan vid in one hour voilà de quoi être heureux
He made another song about his family but this time he talked about why he love his family.
The song name is "la famille la famille".
Now we wait for your reaction to Discipline
Wesh is a french slang use bye the Getto ppl but for the fame some wannabe white gangster use it several time in a phrase
you guys should watch LOUD - 56k
French canadian with hard word play
Orelsan is just pointing out the fact that It's just ridiculous to see white people ("blond") using arabs word ( as "wesh","wallah", "Starfoullah") in every sentence as if they were arabs
So you never use ok, bye, hello?
@@rob9853 Say that to Orelsan bro not me
@@rob9853 the fact is some people use arabs word to feel like they're from the street and act gangsta, nobody act gangsta using ok bye and hello....
@@leoperrin8361 le problemme c'est pas qu'il utilise des mots arabes mais qu'il se prenne pour une racaille un mec de la rue alors qu'il viens de normandie mdr
Yes he played all the characters here
It's nice to try to inderstand an other country lyrics. Orelsan have big skill with word and mix expression, double sens and other. It's hard to understand for a stranger of french language and tuff exercice so just for say "good" to it's pleasure to see that and you take time to explain punchlines. Nice job and have good continue :)
You should react to Bloqué by Les Casseurs Flowteurs, Orelsan's duo
it's priceless
Listen to the song « la famille, la famille » (not sure of the title)
It is basically the opposite of this song, Orelsan recalls memories and tells why he loves his family
So happy you reacted to this song ^^
yo as a french guy i just love orelsan
Orelsan Jimmy punchline 👍
I’ve been waiting for a long time to see a reaction video of défaite de famille in your channel, it’s dope thanks for this and i would add that he was talking about the Christian name, not the religion ^^
I've watch all your video on Orelsan, just keep in mind those song have simple lyrics compared to those he wrote in his first album "Perdu d'avance", or with his friend Gringe and their group "Casseurs Flowters".
11:07 it's called 'tulipes' like the flower, we used to roll like that as teen
Try to listen to "rêves bizarres" ! It it also from orelsan and definitively my favourite song from him. This guy is a real genius.
U need see the second part of that song
La famille la famille
Yes he plays all the characters in the clip
You should listen " nimporte quel toon" from Casseurs Flowters, the Orelsan's band. The beat and flow are bot awesome
you should listen to "la famille la famille", it's sort of the sequel of it
Without reviewing it, I guess you should take a look to "La famille, la famille" from OrelSan, it's kind of an answer to this song but it's really different
it's a "tulipe" a flower..
11' joints name is 🌷 tulip
Consider watching Discipline by Orelsan, i've never seen a clip so mad. Thanks for the reaction !
8:12 ==> Yes he is looking too good as a women :D
10:41 ==> The translation here doesn't really add up. What he says is : “to take advantage of being with working-class people to be able to play boho”, referring to a lot of parisian hypocrites, well-off but dressing like the own less than they really do, and “hanging” with poorer people because it's good for their “image” (acting like they do care although they really don't)
10:56 ==> This joint, my friend, is called a “Tulip” ^^
13:26 ==> What he is saying is like : “You're too white to use “wesh” that often !”.
To adapt the translation, I would have said « Using too much “nigga” for a blonde guy ! ». It's not totally correct (because “wesh” cannot be taken as an insult, unlike “nigga”) but both words are strongly associated to an ethnic group, which is not the ethnic group of the guy who Orelsan is talking to. After that Orelsan says : “Since your dad can't bear Arabs, it's quite ironic” because “Wesh” is originally an Arabic word, massively used in France by Middle-Eastern and North African immigrant's children ;)
But what seemed to bug you here was “FOR a blonde”. Is this construction incorrect in English ?
By the way, the whole video has been shot with... a FUCKING IPHONE ! It's too bad you don't understand French, otherwise, I would have advised you to go and watch the “making of” of this video, It is very interesting. Maybe give it a try even though you won't get what they say : you'll see all the costumes and makeup, which is pretty entertaining (but you'll miss all the jokes, and hearing Orelsan talking about the life of the different characters or improvising line for/from them) :D
Anyway, it's really interesting to see an English-speaker discovering a rapper like Orelsan, who is really all about the lyrics :)
Hope my comment helped a little ! Peace ;)
lets gooo
you should react to "Discipline" by Orelsan
11:00 its a joint rolling method named "tulip" lol
la famille la famille it's the next episode of this song
Le pétard roulé bizarre s'appelle une tulipe ( comme la fleur, entre 1990/2000).
The cigarette to cannabis ( strange) the name is " tulipe" ( like a flower name).
It was maked to the period 1990-2000.
Voilà
Last sentence is answer to the fasther on stairs early . Hehehe I love listening Orelsan . Orel ( Orelian) San ( is sir in JP kind of respect word. Jp have a really strict way of linguistics communication . Just for info hahahh
In France, "défaites de famille" means : "family defeat" and the pronunciation is like " family's party"
They made a video behind the scene of the musics video if you are curious to see the makeup transformation and editing :-)
As a french speaking i find the french rap in general absolutly ridiculous except maybe 15 songs i heard in parties that remind me good moment
You can find the Making Of of this clip for all the characters
Juste a little thing ''defaites de famille'' have to be translates like des fêtes de famille cause its a wordplay with the defeat of thé family and in thé clip is a holyday with her family ps:don't pat attention of my english im french 16 boi
You should definitely listen to the second song 'La famille, la famille, la famille'. It responds to this song perfectly.
Try it with D. Ace please (I'm french incredible video)
That's french humor we love that
There is the making-off on orelsan's CZcams channel if you want to see how they did the clip
You can look "Casseurs flowters" that's a group made with Orelsan and Gringe and the song are very good. my favourite is "Inachevés"
I think that the traduction if you are not scared of heights should have been void
Because in french heights and void is the same word
You should also listen to "la famille, la famille" its kinda the following of the story but it a nicer pov! I think he did really well on that
5:21 Christian is actually the dude's name, he didn't mention religions here haha
by the way there is one character that Orelsan didn't play, it's the dog :p
Basically alcohol in blood is just a french expression to say that he is totally drunk at one step before the coma andhilic
For the strange cigaret in france it is 'a tulip'....
he answers to Défaite de Famille in La famille
9:00 If you know French History, you'll get that it's full of anachronism
AT the beginingwhen he starts singing no one listen to him and keep talking even tho they're the ones who asked. But as soon a he says "I have details about my life to reveal" basically *tea* everyone stop talking and listen to him.
Hi ! I love this type of video ! But, I’ m french and I would like subtitle when you speak if you can make it ✌️
"And it's all bollocs"
Exactly the point of that song : disappointing family, all trying to play bigger than they ridiculously are ;)
Dude, I freaking love how you took the time to really dig in the lyrics, the meanings and all.
As a french lad I love that, but even if you did english songs and all I would like such format, because there's always more than meet the eye, in rap songs, and it's always nice to take that little journey with you, trying to find the hidden gems in there ;)
Also, I personnally love the last phrase of the song : "see you next year."
Kinda mean that despite the fact Orelsan freaking hates all of his family relatives... he will still be there next year, because he is as hypocrit as the whole rest of them, and can't live up to his own insults and feelings, and just leave them be and NOT come to those stupid parties.
He'll still come, as a hypocrit himself, trying to play nice and play along despite what all the bad he thinks of them.
This humble conclusion is a little gem, I think.
Like "yeah, and me ? I'm just a big phony mouth."
You are overanalysing the "Christian" part. Christian is a common male name in France, like Christophe.
11:08 the is cannabis cigarette but roll as flower. General is for show off
C'est une tulipe 🌷🌷🌷,le blunt
do you know that ths video clip was shot on a single IPHONE X
Je suis français 😂 CZcams notification lol
Coffin with cape x)
You might need to watch this with someone who actually talks french though
Regarding the “wesh” line: he’s saying that the guy is using the word wesh (Algerian/Arabic) way too much for a blond (=white) guy that has a racist father (meaning the blond guy is most likely racist too). It also ties with cultural appropriation
Christian is a name, the same as in English. Basically that member of the family is shady/ has wondering hands once e has has too much to drink so he’s warning the kids.
If you wanna discover a good french rap groupe, try IAM. Titles like:
l'empire du côté obsure, Pas né sous la même étoile, Petit frère...
Eh un petit Django - Fichu. ça plairait bien
the complicated joint shape is called a "tulip"
le truc qui ne sert à rien mais qu'on a tous essayé de faire au collège ou au lycée en regardant des tutos youtube mdr
@@Phals Et même avant que youtube existe !
@@fyodorkaramazov2136 Moi c'était avec, je suis pas assez vieux mdr, n'empêche qu'on en a roulé pas mal des joints bizarres qui ne servaient à rien et des bédos gigantesques de la taille de l'avant bras noyés dans le tabac car on avait pas assez de matos, alala le gâchis quand j'y repense.
@@Phals Et c'était à celui qui se faisait le plus gros bang, comme si on avait des poumons dyson qui pouvaient cramer pour 20 balles de weed à la seconde, et comme si on pouvait encaisser ça.
@@fyodorkaramazov2136 Ouaip haha, après à cette époque je tournais plus au shit qu'à la beuh faute de moyens, la bonne weed c'était pour les soirées et le shit pour tous les jours, mais purée je carburais dès le matin un bang dès le réveil et un bédo ou deux avant d'aller en cours, de quoi passer un bon début de journée mdr
Wesh is derived from Arabic , "wesh rak "(how are you ?) the joke is that a blond guy and his father who hate Arabic people say it to much "Wesh" (sorry for spelling mistakes i'am French)
je connaissais pas cette chanson, hahahahahah c'est trop comique hahahah
Please react to SI SEUL and also PLUS RIEN NE M'ÉTONNE just two amazing songs and videos!
you need to react to discipline by orelsan
🔥🔥🔥
What about IAM or Stupeflip?
UK Rap : try : The Brotherhood One Shot
French Rap : Try :
IAM Petit Frère
IAM l'école du micro d'argent
SHURIKN Samurai
NTM La Fièvre
BOUGA Belsounce Breakdown
MC SOLAAR Daydreamin
MC SOLAAR Solaar pleure
SNIPER - Brule (Clip Officiel)
German Rap :
SIDO Strassenjunge
BUSHIDO feat Shindy Panamera Flow
BUSHIDO Augenblick
ZEB ROK SKI Bboy Revenge (for some really old school stuff)
Luxembourg Rap :
LIL STAR & RO Diner de Bandits
MILA - Turned (Official video)
HAMELIUS - Radio Edit (5 languages in one rap song)
So you got some of France, Luxembourg and German best rap tracks in my opinion
"Prolo" does not mean "nerd" it comes from "proletaire" giving proletarian. Il means worker class
Nice
Using too much "wesh" for a blond means that the word "wesh" is a word used from people with an arabic origin in France. These people are more poor and lives in poor district so Orelsan means that his cousin tries to imitate these people to be cool because there are a lot of famous rappers who are in these district at the base.
At 5:15 I don't understand your reaction, it's normal to have alcohol in blood when you drink alcohol
it s him at all peaople but listen « reves bizarre » it s his best song
Ahahahah sa me tue