Ariel Rider Kepler vs Aventon Aventure | Fat tire Ebike review & comparison

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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    0:00 Specs
    2:12 Riding the Aventure
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    8:59 Closing thoughts
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Komentáře • 368

  • @buzznola6383
    @buzznola6383 Před 2 lety +52

    Hi Rusty,
    It seems you like most of the fat tire reviewers leave our some really important facts:
    1. Aventon is a dealer sold bike which means it can be serviced both under and after warranty by that dealer instead of how most online ebikes work, in most places you prove what’s wrong and the company ships you the part and good luck.
    2. By federal law any electric vehicle that goes over 20 mph with the throttle is technically not a bicycle and in most states needs to be registered, insured, have horn blinkers and a Manufacturers Statement of Origin ( similar to a title). The Kepler does not have those things.
    3. If the vehicle is set up so peddle assist goes over 28 mph the same rules as above apply the limits for bicycles is class 3 (28 mph peddle assist)
    4. The motor cannot be above 750 watt nominal (the Aventon is 750 the Kepler is 1000) again above rules listed apply.
    5. A bike that is over powered cannot legally be ridden in any bike lanes (Aventon Yes Kepler no)
    Many states are starting to crack down on these over powered peddle added motor bikes including tickets and potentially court that’s why Aventon builds their bikes to legal specifications other companies selling overpowered vehicles are online only from one of the few states that have some loop hole but still cannot be ridden in bike lanes even in that state.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +27

      Hi Buzz great points!
      Also:
      6. The Aventon has an app
      7. The Aventon exceeds 28mph in pedal assist, nearly reaching 31mph
      8. The Kepler is funner, not better
      Cheers 🐾⚡‼️

    • @mrc1436
      @mrc1436 Před 2 lety +11

      Hi Rusty,
      As I am certain you know, most ebikes can set up the peddle assist for over their legal limit but ship set up to obey the law. The 2 most important parts are throttle over 20 mph is illegal and motor over 750 watts nominal is illegal as an unregistered uninsured bicycle in most states. They cannot be ridden in the bike lanes, they are for private property use only and those facts should probably be mentioned by anyone reviewing these fat tire vehicles.
      Your comparing a street/bike lane legal bicycle to a private property only vehicle in almost every state in the United States

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +11

      @@mrc1436 Yep, curious what kind of bikes we'll see when there are federal regulations in place!
      I bet manufacturers will then find ways to squeeze better performance out of 750s
      Cheers!

    • @Angel-AbC9
      @Angel-AbC9 Před 2 lety +22

      Lol I have magicycle and I love the 28 plus mph , who cares about state laws they don't enforce them anyway so these companies that sale fast bikes 28 plus mph knows men want them . My first ebike only goes 21 mph and I got tired of other bikes passing me and cruising fast up hills , so I bought magicycle and upgraded the power and I'm so happy and will only by powerful bikes ,, leave the slow law bikes for the old folks .

    • @Angel-AbC9
      @Angel-AbC9 Před 2 lety +4

      @@RustyRoads rusty good job , I love fast bikes and own a magicycle ebike , got it for its power and speed of 28 plus mph, there's state laws but it's not enforced , dealers knows men loves speed and power and those are saying well. Leave the 20 mph bikes for the old folks .if I had more money I would certainly also buy a ariel ebike because they are fast.

  • @thiagomancha3413
    @thiagomancha3413 Před rokem +113

    *Great **Latest.Bike** with amazing quality and speed…I’m in love with it and strongly recommend it. It looks a bit pricey but absolutely worth it.*

  • @ljcruz127
    @ljcruz127 Před 2 lety +4

    Great comparison job! After almost 2 months of due diligence I just ordered a Kepler. It is in fact my first ebike. But for the price and what I'm getting (over the Rad power 6) that I ALMOST went with. What a difference. Thanks for the awesome video. Keep up the good work. ( what's up Rusty! 👋)

  • @OldManFatBike
    @OldManFatBike Před 2 lety +3

    Very cool video with a bunch of details! Great job on the comparison @Rusty Roads!! It's a thumbs up for me!!!!

  • @easyheimer
    @easyheimer Před 2 lety +7

    Fantastic job with the video bro! Love the riding comparisons and showing yourself getting on each of the bikes.
    Keep putting out great content!

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks bro and ditto!
      Looking forward to your next video 🤘🏽⚡💯

  • @michaelbyrd628
    @michaelbyrd628 Před 2 lety +5

    Just had a Grizz for 2 weeks.... and now I want this Kepler bike also!!

  • @applebit924
    @applebit924 Před 2 lety +2

    k, this was an excellent review! Thanks for spending the time to help make a great selection!

  • @billstatler1185
    @billstatler1185 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the reviews I was looking at both bikes and now I believe I will get the Kepler

  • @dadathome584
    @dadathome584 Před 2 lety +9

    We have an Aventon Aventure & an AR Kepler on the way…. Your point (on the Aventon) regarding the acceleration factor with throttle only was spot on…. I don’t like that lag as you so awesomely pointed out…. You did a great job showing how fun the Aventure is, in PAS 5 as well! PAS 4-5 is my preference when wanting to go fast, not relying on the throttle at all (my Aventure can go 33 mph ish in PAS 5, when you toggle the speed settings on the app) ……
    Thank you for reaffirming my decision on our AR Kepler purchase!! Best review out there,, much Appreciation!! 🤙🏽

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +3

      Congrats! You and your significant other will have so much fun riding together!
      Both are fantastic bikes, looking forward to hearing your opinion after you ride the Kepler. I'm sure others are as well!
      Cheers 🐾⚡

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety +2

      I thought I'd abuse the throttle, but find pas 4 & 5 much more exilerating. Kinda feels like I helped just a bit!!!!!

  • @jimmyjames8736
    @jimmyjames8736 Před 2 lety +3

    Congratulations on getting your hands on a Kepler to try. Looks like a good bike for the price. I especially like the big solid rack on the back. Very useful.

  • @tonyholmes9024
    @tonyholmes9024 Před 2 lety +2

    Great job with the video Mike!

  • @buuster100
    @buuster100 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for this. Have been looking at several bikes to purchase 2 of them for the last 3 months including Electric Bike company Model S, Pedego Interceptor platinum and Propel Gazel step thru (Great Bike but only pedal assist) here in So. Cal and for the value I am buying 2 of the Keplers. I appreciate you.

  • @johnhaddock5055
    @johnhaddock5055 Před 2 lety +4

    Ordered a Kepler and been waiting to hear on a delivery so this is awesome! thanks for the vids Rusty, quality content

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      Congrats and thanks John! You're going to love it, hoping it ships ASAP!!

    • @sboy1955
      @sboy1955 Před 2 lety

      Any word on delivery yet?

    • @johnhaddock5055
      @johnhaddock5055 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sboy1955 delivered! Love it

    • @sboy1955
      @sboy1955 Před 2 lety

      @@johnhaddock5055 - Nice 👍🏽, glad to hear it. It looks like a wait right now if I decide to order. No hurry just wanted to make sure they were rolling off the line as advertised. Thx!

  • @dennisfajardo5827
    @dennisfajardo5827 Před rokem +2

    Thanks so much for the input, it was very helpful ;I'm a first time buyer,(I have not buy the bike yet)and I had my doubts whether to buy the Aventon or the Kepler ;Definitely I'm going to go with the Kepler;Again, thanks so much for your help. 👍🙂

  • @tomfortson5147
    @tomfortson5147 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey Michael, Thanks again for this review! Great job (and a biscuit for Rusty!) I was leaning toward the X-52 based on your vast youtube videos, but I'm glad I held out. This Kepler looks like a better bike for my 74 year old body (LOL). All the best...

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Tom, thanks for the kind words and the snack for Rusty !
      Glad our videos helped you make the right choice for you!
      Looking forward to hearing how you like the Kepler as well!!
      Ride safe!
      🐾

  • @marcialever
    @marcialever Před 2 lety +12

    Excellent comparison! My wife went for the Aventure, and she is very happy (I would’ve gone for the Kepler myself.). she says that she loves the aventure look, and the fact that the aventure feels like a traditional bike.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +4

      She made a great choice! Can't go wrong with either! Both are so fun and easy to pedal!
      Thanks for watching!!

    • @maradona8623
      @maradona8623 Před rokem +1

      Love my Aventure, wouldn’t trade it

    • @BillyO8828
      @BillyO8828 Před rokem +1

      Some states can ticket you on the Kepler because it's over the legal limit of 750W. The tickets can cost $600. Most cops won't know the difference, but some will.

    • @gmc8810
      @gmc8810 Před rokem +1

      ​@Maradona 86 curious if you bought it from a dealer or online ? I've heard buying from a dealer is better incase it arrives with anything damaged. They will put it together too . I'd feel better when ordering parts through the dealer than online as I've heard negative reviews about Aventons customer service. Thanks if you have any suggestions. Enjoy!

  • @vpham92688
    @vpham92688 Před 2 lety +3

    You should do a video on security. what security method is recommended. Lots of locks: D-locks (u-lock), chains etc. brake locks, cafe locks -- pretty hard to find for 26x4" wheels

  • @markstunes3221
    @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety

    Great video Rusty!!

  • @RandyRides
    @RandyRides Před 2 lety +4

    Wow! The Kepler definitely takes the cake! AR just makes the coolest bikes, IMO. I really like the screen and the power, of course. Great review!

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes indeed it is so much fun to cruise around on and can rip it up when needed.
      Kind of a sleeper and I love that !
      Looking forward to seeing what new toys you have coming 🤙🏽🐾⚡

    • @RandyRides
      @RandyRides Před 2 lety +3

      @@RustyRoads Yeah I really want a Grizzly but they’re sold out. Not sure what I’m getting yet, but I’ve got a couple options. Maybe a Bandit? 🤷🏼‍♂️ Was planning on having something cool for the summer! 😎

  • @eamonmcdonough
    @eamonmcdonough Před 2 lety +2

    I like the way you describe things. "Squishy" "punchy" "laggy". Awesome review. I'm subscribed now 👍

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Eamon!
      We love squishy shocks 🥰

  • @princeedwards1185
    @princeedwards1185 Před rokem +1

    Hi Rusty thank you so much this review, I ended up purchasing the Kepler a few days later and was able to get it up to 47 miles an hour downhill which speed limit unlock
    to 99 map I also gave you the credit for my purchase thank you Prince. Ariel rider Kepler 47 mph

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem

      Hey Prince congrats on the new Kepler!! I'm not surprised you were able to hit 47mph tbh!! I saw the video and wow you were moving!!
      Great tips and video brother keep it up!!
      Subbed!
      Ride safe 🙏🏽🐾⚡️

  • @SinSear001
    @SinSear001 Před 2 lety +1

    I ordered my Kepler as soon as it was available, I can't wait to get on it and blaze up these city streets. Ariel Rider puts out a good product, I wish they still had the old school look cruiser ebikes they started with tho. Thanks for putting up the comparison review since there is very little info on them on the CZcamss you earned a sub.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks, and congrats! You're going to love it!
      Ride safe!!

    • @mrc1436
      @mrc1436 Před 2 lety +1

      Depending on the state please be aware that any throttle over 20 mph is not considered a bike neither is any electric motor with a nominal rating over 750 watts the Kepler is both and is not allowed in the bike lanes. They are also not legal on the street without being registered with a certificate of origin, blinkers, brake lights and a horn. Many areas have already started cracking down There are a couple of states that have loop holes but do to their new popularity even those states are looking at changing their laws.

    • @SinSear001
      @SinSear001 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mrc1436 Thanks 4 the heads up. I have turn signals, motorcycle rated headlights, and other things (mirrors etc.) on order that will get here to me before my bike ships. I have my stickers and my motorcycle license as well.

    • @bcm1621
      @bcm1621 Před 2 lety

      @@mrc1436 save it

  • @jeremywerner9489
    @jeremywerner9489 Před 2 lety +4

    Excellent, informative video, I'm strongly considering getting the Ariel Rider Kepler myself because my work commute is just 5 miles on city streets. My biggest remaining question, however, is about the braking capabilities. . .how quickly does it come to a stop from these advertised high speeds? For example, if you get cut off by someone in a car, necessitating a quick, hard stop.

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety +4

      A car pulled out in front of me (and my Keplar) this morning. I was standing still in no time. Luckily I lengthened my arms and squatted low or I may have kept going..........ALONE........WITHOUT THE KEPLAR!!!

  • @Splices
    @Splices Před 2 lety +3

    Yeee, solid comparison 👍

  • @jdjames997
    @jdjames997 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for making this video. Good comparison, I’m wondering if you think one is made better than the other overall? Like is one more reliable long term? Getting parts for e-bikes seems to be challenging with certain brands. Thanks again

  • @cpcamera8493
    @cpcamera8493 Před 5 měsíci +1

    How would you say the High Step model fits someone about 5'8-5'9- with shoes and 32" inseam ? I'm looking at getting the Kepler , but want to be sure it's not going to be ridiculous trying to get on / off... how low can the seat go ? Great video's BTW !!

  • @abbaby555
    @abbaby555 Před 2 lety +1

    Great review 👍

  • @Jolly-Green-Steve
    @Jolly-Green-Steve Před 2 lety +2

    It would be awesome if they had an auxiliary XT60 battery plug built into the battery mount so you could ad another battery for more range. I want to add a 1.5 kwh triangle battery to beef the Kepler up to 2.5 kwhs.

  • @360soar
    @360soar Před 8 měsíci +2

    I have the x52 Ariel arider and am looking to get away from the scrambler style. The Aventon is a great bike, but I totally agree that the 1000w/52v is the way to go. It's fun.

  • @mikemorgan8588
    @mikemorgan8588 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice fit and finish on your production. Good work Mike.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Mike! Fit and finish is important

  • @flxthecat2735
    @flxthecat2735 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Mike and Rusty, thnx for this detailed video. I just order my ARK today. Question, do you recall how long it took to receive yours???

  • @mulcher93
    @mulcher93 Před rokem +3

    Aside from the obvious differences of the battery and motor, what are the key differences between the other components of the bikes? In other words which is the better bicycle when we don’t consider the motor and battery?

  • @keithappleby7744
    @keithappleby7744 Před rokem +2

    Great video!

  • @GrnArrow092
    @GrnArrow092 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm currently in the market for my first ebike. I'm a heavier rider (300 lbs), so weight capacity is a factor in my decision. Between the two, the Kepler has a 300 lb weight capacity and the Aventon Aventure has a weight capacity of 400 lbs. While I would enjoy a more powerful motor, I would have to go with the Aventure based on weight capacity if I were to decide between the two. Other bikes I'm considering aside from the Aventon Aventure are the Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra Duo 2 (same specs as the Kepler and can handle up to 380 lbs), and the Cyrusher XF900.

    • @HeinrichEichmann
      @HeinrichEichmann Před 2 lety +1

      Keep in mind you are a good sized man at 300lbs and you may want the extra power of the Kepler so when you are going up hills you're not killing yourself peddling. I saw a side by side test on CZcams with two guys of similar weight going up a steep hill just on the throttle without peddling and the Aventon died 3/4 of the way up but the Kepler made it all the way to the top.

    • @GrnArrow092
      @GrnArrow092 Před rokem

      @@HeinrichEichmann In the time that I've written my post, I purchased an Aventon Aventure. It has performed quite well for me and I've never experienced my bike dying on me while climbing a hill. If it's a very steep incline, then yes, any electric bike is going to have an issue making it uphill. A 750 watt motor for me has plenty of power and on PA5, it has more than enough power to push me along even when I'm trying to do most of the work by pedaling. As for speed, I've gotten a top speed of 30 MPH out of it and it's not going to do any more than that. That's fine, though. 30 MPH is plenty of speed to get me around. So far, I'm enjoying my first ebike. It's getting me outside and I'm getting exercise, which is what I need.

  • @MikeBarnett1776
    @MikeBarnett1776 Před 2 lety +2

    We've got 2 Keplers on order, and we're really looking forward to getting them!

    • @JimyOfficial
      @JimyOfficial Před 4 měsíci +1

      How are they?

    • @MikeBarnett1776
      @MikeBarnett1776 Před 4 měsíci

      @@JimyOfficial they're really nice... and seriously powerful. We did unlock the maximum speed on them (high thirties), but the brakes, like almost all ebikes, ARE bicycle brakes, and I didn't feel comfortable with their stopping power at that speed, so I governed them at 26mph.

  • @glennburch1081
    @glennburch1081 Před 2 lety +10

    These bikes are nearly identical. I like the Keplar has a little more range and power and comes standard with a larger rear rack. The Aventure motor does not respond as fast as the Kepler, this can be pro or con. A lot of people have been hurt on these ebikes with these aggressive motors, the Aventon chose to make the emotor assist a little bit less aggressive when first engaging, however, the Aventon emotor does provide a lot of torque. At times I find myself having to upshift the pedal bc the motor is providing so much torque. I have had the Aventure up to 32mph, step assist 5 in 8th gear and peddling as fast as I can pedal. I know others who have peddled this bike up to 34mph. I do not place a lot of emphasis on the top speed as most people are not going to ride sustained at these speeds. The 5mph top end difference to me is moot point. The Aventon is more of a polished product, look at the weld seems and how clean the wiring harnesses look. Much of the harness on the Aventon is in-frame for protection and a cleaner look. The Kepler is a very good-looking ebike as well, just not quite as polished. I have had excellent support thru Aventon. I had the bike ordered, drop-ship delivered to my local bike shop (There are two US shipping points, one in S. Cali and one in NC) for assembly and ready for pick-up within a 2-week time frame. So, I do not believe you could go wrong with either of these bikes for what is offered at the price points. There is NOTHING about the Aventure that I am dissatisfied with after owning and riding it for one month. Looking at the Kepler, if I were to own one, I am sure I would be equally satisfied. It's a crowded market and the competition is a winner for the consumer. Fantastic review Rusty Roads, TY.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +3

      Glad to hear you're loving your Aventure!
      I love how safe I feel on those huge fat tire ebikes ❤️⚡
      Cheers!!

    • @dskillzhtown
      @dskillzhtown Před 2 lety

      Great comment. I wonder if we will get a single speed version of the Aventure soon.

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety +1

      Thoroughly enjoyed Rusty's review and really liked your take on the comparison issue.
      I say pick one that suits you and get out and ride!!! Every morning when I wake I think "where will I ride today."

  • @Cruising-and-Craps
    @Cruising-and-Craps Před 2 lety +1

    Can the Kepler go up hills and off road for hunting and off trail roads?
    I don’t know about the gears and teeth for climbing

  • @oaiduong
    @oaiduong Před 2 lety +2

    What size Aventon Adventure did you ride? I assumed a small, just curious how it felt for you.

  • @Angel-AbC9
    @Angel-AbC9 Před 2 lety +1

    Have you tested magicycle , in other reviews it out does adventon also with its aggressive power and 86 torc

  • @evan_belka9318
    @evan_belka9318 Před rokem +1

    Hey, do you know anything about how the Ariel Rider shipping is? I ordered my Kepler on OCTOBER 30th; and it still isn't here (January 11). I am just wondering how long it took for you to get yours.

  • @harrymiram5562
    @harrymiram5562 Před 10 měsíci +1

    XLNT video! Searching for 2d e-ride & came upon this H2H comparison & am partial toward Kepler.
    Was wondering if you've heard of E-Cells 600w Hardtail or Super ST AWD 1000w...

  • @silkysnakee8235
    @silkysnakee8235 Před 2 lety

    Does this Kepler have as much torque and power as your x class 52v? I want a standard bike style with crazy power like the x class. Did you hit 35mph with the throttle?

  • @mrc1436
    @mrc1436 Před rokem +3

    Update
    If you are buying online this review is very relevant but if you can buy at a shop consider this. Ariel Rider will cover parts only and any defective parts must be shipped back to them prior to them shipping a new part to you.
    It goes something like; report the problem remove the part send it to us we will inspect it. If we deem it defective we send you a new part you install it.
    Aventon from dealer; warranty includes parts and labor. You bring it to the shop they diagnose order the parts they replace the parts you get a fixed bike all parts and labor paid by Aventon

    • @familybusiness1417
      @familybusiness1417 Před rokem

      Thank you... I literally am deciding between these two bikes. I was on the aventon today at the bike shop. The bike shop is 2 miles from my house and I am not a fix it guy so I might go with the aventon especially since they dropped the price to $1499 now they came out with the adventure 2.

  • @timr31908
    @timr31908 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Everybody knows they could drop the price by $500 and ebike companies would still make a hell of a prophet

  • @cooloutac
    @cooloutac Před rokem +5

    Aventon is 400lbs rated vs 300 lbs kepler. I can tell you as a bigger guy the first things to go are the seat and the pedals and the brakes and gears will need constant adjusting if not worse. And I want an ebike to work out while going longer distances to see more sites. I feel like that grip throttle would get me in trouble with the cops and be accident prone lol. I believe that delayed throttle is intended.

    • @mikemagri1631
      @mikemagri1631 Před rokem

      I am a bigger guy too, so payload is important to me. Do you have either of these bikes and are they working out? I weigh just under 300lbs, so I think I need the 400lb payload so the bike isn't stressed out all the time.

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac Před rokem +1

      @mikemagri1631 I got freesky Himalaya e bike. 330lb limit. I put 27lbs of pressure in tires. 700 miles no issues. Took it on some rough trails too. I weigh 320 lol

  • @saadmouti2607
    @saadmouti2607 Před rokem +1

    Hi! Thanks for the review. Eying one of these. Is there a risk of getting Ariel over the Aventon in terms of the law and getting stopped or using the bike paths?
    I started from Onyx and then started to think it might become an issue and require registration and insurance to avoid trouble. I have a motorcycle license so if I wanted a motorcycle I'd rather go for a zero. I live in California so the "law" is quite clear in the up to 750W and 28mph I guess but maybe 250W above is not such a big deal if you stick with the speed limit since it still looks like an e bycicle?

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem +1

      All ARs ship with the speed limited to 20mph (class 2), and a class 2 ebike sticker.
      The speed is easily unlockable, so in those cases as long as one isn't riding like a maniac referring to that sticker is very helpful.
      🤙🏽🐾

    • @saadmouti2607
      @saadmouti2607 Před rokem

      sweet! thanks!!!

  • @saltydad2987
    @saltydad2987 Před 2 lety +2

    Ordered one in early April and it's nice to see my purchase may be a good one. Are you planning to get one for yourself? You review was the best I've seen so far. Wish Rusty was one the bike with you

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi SD thanks, glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful!
      I'd love one, and am considering getting one for sure !!
      Congrats on yours!!
      Same on Rusty but I wasn't familiar with either bike and didn't want to risk falling with him ❤️

  • @CamTheMan8
    @CamTheMan8 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Would you recommend the Kepler or the Adventure 2?

  • @pinoyrunningpenguin
    @pinoyrunningpenguin Před rokem +1

    can you lock these bikes through the app? Also is the battery removable and you can charge the battery separately?

  • @lukeo5454
    @lukeo5454 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice review. Wish I would've seen keplar before I ordered my magicycle! Ugh the ebike technology is moving so fast.

  • @MikeHudson-px2gc
    @MikeHudson-px2gc Před rokem +1

    What peddle sensor type do they use -cadence or torque? You should add that to you spec section as they do pedal different.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem

      It is a cadence sensor. Good call!
      🐾⚡️

  • @schreckt
    @schreckt Před 2 lety +1

    Why does no one show the connections on the battery like I wanna see what I can do battery wise but idk what the connections look like

  • @realestatestudent213
    @realestatestudent213 Před 2 lety +1

    Good video!!

  • @seleneperez7322
    @seleneperez7322 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Rusty Roads, can you please please do a comparison video between the xclass 52v and this one!? That would be so awesome!

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      Hi Selene! Unfortunately this was a loaner so I won't be able to do that comparison.
      Very different geometry with these bikes but it's awesome they have virtually the same powerplant.
      With those bigger wheels and lower weight it seems like the Kepler can possibly have a higher top speed?
      Hmmm 🤔🐾⚡

  • @albertgein3082
    @albertgein3082 Před rokem

    Is it worth waiting the end of October tho?? The kepler I mean

  • @Angel-AbC9
    @Angel-AbC9 Před 2 lety

    Have you checked out the senada ebike or magicycle ?

  • @timmiller4979
    @timmiller4979 Před rokem +1

    Does the Kepler have toque sensor? That’s a deal breaker if Kepler does not have one

  • @markb6295
    @markb6295 Před rokem +1

    I think I want the Kepler ......eventually.
    I might start with a Rattan step-through in the hopes my wife will like it

  • @Elisplushies360woodierc

    Man. Just when I thought i wanted a full size tire fatbike ebike Ariel comes out with the new step through xclass 52.

  • @mac23806
    @mac23806 Před 2 lety +1

    Can I ask what kind of back pack you had in this video I'm looking for some spacious bike backpacks

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      Hi Mac it's a Riderbag! Super spacious⚡🤙🏽
      czcams.com/video/svAAzvOmpfc/video.html

  • @SinSear001
    @SinSear001 Před 2 lety +2

    Kepler emails went out today. If you ordered before May 3 yours is shipping between Wednesday May 18 and Tuesday May 24.🎉🎉🎉😁✨

  • @adaboy4z
    @adaboy4z Před 2 lety +6

    I prefer the looks of the Aventon. It's 1799 as of now. I own the Soltera and it's a quick fun bike to ride. The Aventon Soltera build stays within the laws and just looks like a road bike so no cops will bother me.

    • @JeffersonRah
      @JeffersonRah Před rokem +1

      What state do you ride in? I feel like out here in ca nobody will really bother you

    • @adaboy4z
      @adaboy4z Před rokem

      @@JeffersonRah Texas

  • @MoniJohnson
    @MoniJohnson Před 2 lety +1

    Great comparison video, bro. Needs more Rusty though.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      Always more Rusty!!! I wasn't used to those bikes and didn't want to risk a spill with him on board
      Thanks for checking the vid out Moni!
      🐾⚡

  • @njrivetelite
    @njrivetelite Před rokem +3

    The Keppler seems faster etc.. the aesthetic of the Aventure & handlebars of the Aventure I prefer.
    I don't like the way it can move up & down like that.. that's an area I'd like rigid. But.. I gotta say, that throttle response looked nice.

  • @kevinnashskitchen3517
    @kevinnashskitchen3517 Před rokem +2

    Kepler I bought got 75 miles easily. I guess living in an area with no hills and going 12-15 mph is a big bonus in range ability. 👍

  • @steveh7108
    @steveh7108 Před rokem +1

    Sounds like they were smart by creating that lag because that is the death of a battery and an electric motor is the initial load surge.
    Keep your fast acceleration personally I will pedal and have longevity in the battery and the motor

  • @bigteedo111
    @bigteedo111 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video!
    Does the display show watts and battery voltage percentage? Does battery say LG on sticker? I'm ordering this bike can't wait to ride with you guys at DCESK8 I also have Lectric Xp and Dualtron Eagle Pro

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      The display does let your switch from percentage to voltage.
      I did not inspect the battery that closely.
      🐾🤙🏽⚡

    • @bigteedo111
      @bigteedo111 Před 2 lety

      @@RustyRoads ok cool thanks

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety

      @@bigteedo111 my battery does not have LG on it anywhere.

  • @davidmcbryde1226
    @davidmcbryde1226 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I will go with the kepler

  • @bpoydras1503
    @bpoydras1503 Před 2 lety +10

    Just ordered a Kepler two weeks ago, and scrounging for any info on this bike almost seems to be on par with looking for hen’s teeth, so thanks for giving us something to wet our beaks on in the meantime.

    • @Angel-AbC9
      @Angel-AbC9 Před 2 lety +1

      Could've got Magicycle for less price and its powerful

    • @megaboz42
      @megaboz42 Před 2 lety

      @@Angel-AbC9 I've been riding my son's Magicycle and it is nice. But I think it should have hydraulic brakes (they just added a combo deal with uninstalled hydraulic brakes at $1799 to match the price point of the Kepler). With the 750 watt motor I've got it up to 26-27 mph. But with the mechanical brakes I'm very cautious when riding at top speed. I've got a Kepler on order so it will be interesting to directly compare the two.

    • @Angel-AbC9
      @Angel-AbC9 Před 2 lety

      @@megaboz42 no, they changed the brakes on models 2022 it now tekro or tekdro , it's a step up from the original, plus I paid 1499..I just asked the guy for the 100 discount well I beged and he gave it...

    • @bpoydras1503
      @bpoydras1503 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Angel-AbC9
      Magicycle will get spanked, LOL, and does not compare to the Kepler in almost every performance category that I’m concerned about. Impossible for me to have any buyer’s remorse with my decision to go with the Kepler over ANY other e-bike in this price range.

    • @Angel-AbC9
      @Angel-AbC9 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bpoydras1503 lol, I won't say it will get spanked, magiclye peak watts 1440 while kepler 1800 , but magicycle has 22amp while kepler 20 amp , both 52v . Speed 28 to keplers 30 mph isn't a spanking , so 1699 magicycle and kepler 1800 , I say both are good .

  • @Tinman710
    @Tinman710 Před rokem +1

    They don’t have different sizes available. Which bike would you say is bigger? Assuming the Aventure that you showed us was a large.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem

      Hi TM! Yes the Aventon in the video was a large.
      Both bikes felt the same size while riding, and while stopped. As well as feeling pretty similar to mount/dismount.
      The Kepler comes in a low and mid step option, both are the same size, with the difference being the height of the top bar.
      Thanks for watching !!

  • @lolterm
    @lolterm Před 2 lety +1

    hey rusty i love the review but did they change the size for the new version im 5’7 and not sure if its a good size for me im looking at the highstep

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      They both feel pretty comparable honestly. I'm 5'4 and can straddle it at a stop with both feet planted. At 5'7 U should be good!
      We also have a new video with my 5'2 GF riding the Kepler 👍🏽
      🐾

    • @lolterm
      @lolterm Před 2 lety

      @@RustyRoads thanks man ill be checking that new vid out thanks for responding so fast keep up the good work

  • @kiddbash1
    @kiddbash1 Před 2 lety

    Can you link what Helmet you are wearing?

  • @mandrade5611
    @mandrade5611 Před 2 lety +1

    Hello Rusty Roads, do you know what's the standover height of this bike's model, the closest point where the top tube and the seat post meet/are welded? I'm torn choosing between the standard model and the low step.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +1

      I believe it's 32", both feel similar since I'm short and my butt happens to be in that area lol. The adjustable seat helped a ton!

    • @af31ns
      @af31ns Před 2 lety

      Specs at arielrider.com/products/kepler under heading, "Geometry." Seriously funny heading, but anyway, the standover height is 22 and 25 inches for the low step and high step respectively.

    • @af31ns
      @af31ns Před 2 lety +2

      @@RustyRoads 32 inches is the lowest seat height of the low step Kepler. Standover is 22 inches. Great review by the way. Same comment as someone else posted about ordering one and scouring youtube for more info. Thank you; we're starving to know more!

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety

      @@af31ns get one and join the reviews. You will be glad you did.

  • @kevinnashskitchen3517
    @kevinnashskitchen3517 Před rokem +1

    Lol 😂 most E Bikes in our area group are Aventon. These people bought their E Bikes before the Kepler was introduced and I got the V2 👍

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem

      Nice! IMO as long as you’re riding you made the right choice 🙌🏽⚡️

  • @raymcfarland9965
    @raymcfarland9965 Před 2 lety +2

    Did you get a feel for what the real world range might be? That's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger on a Kepler right now. No one has tested the range yet

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +2

      I only had it for a few hours unfortunately. Considering it's lighter than the Xclass , with a similar motor and controller, and a larger battery I can see these bikes hitting about 25 on throttle only and probably double that of pedaling

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety +2

      Rode 26 miles and still had 86% used pas 4 & 5 most but had to slow down and stop quite a bit.
      I'm trying to plan a 5 hr outing where I can see how far I can go.

  • @myutube6422
    @myutube6422 Před rokem +3

    I bought the Aventure last Oct. Didn't ride during our winter, but now have about 2K miles on it. I've had to enter act with customer service a few times and IMO the CS is poor. My battery is starting to have less power and distance. The display is small and dim and dims, even more, when you turn on the light. I would not recommend this bike. My other experience is a Lectric XP and IMO their bike is a better bike, especially when you factor in the cost.

  • @thisspotrules3631
    @thisspotrules3631 Před rokem +1

    Isn't a nom 1000w motor considered a moped under the CA Class 3 codes which most states have adopted? And therefore requires registration. I live in NV and a Class 3 is

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem +3

      Hi TSR, you are correct. Ariel Rider ships their bikes with the speed limiter governed to class 2 20mph speed. It's up to the rider to unlock this feature.
      I'm curious what federal laws would entail if/when it gets to that 🤔
      Cheers!

  • @elijohnson3469
    @elijohnson3469 Před 2 lety +2

    More reviews of Kepler

  • @johngoodwyn8246
    @johngoodwyn8246 Před rokem +1

    Where was this filmed i know Washington state on the Eastside Redmond,Kirkland ?

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem +1

      Correct! Close to the Microsoft campus
      Thanks for watching!

    • @johngoodwyn8246
      @johngoodwyn8246 Před rokem +1

      @@RustyRoads i use to work over @ Eastside bus barn but been retired since 2003 Great job by the way new viewer.

  • @Pushing_peso_los_angeles_ca

    I literally was going to buy a steal deal Ariel grizzly gen 2 52v 1000watt bike for 3000 grand an hour ago total the guy put in to it was about another 3 Total at 6 grand. With a top speed of 36mph. Than I come across this and apparently same specs but this may not look as cool but for way cheaper I'm probably going with this.

  • @Zainenn
    @Zainenn Před 2 lety +4

    I wouldn't compare these as the same class of ebike. 1000w vs 750w. Also 2021 tech vs 2022 tech. Doesn't the top speed make the Airel a class 3 only bike?

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +2

      Compared then due to the $100 difference, simulate frame and fat tires 🐾⚡
      Cheers!!

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety +1

      It ships as a class 2. You have to go in and change it if you want something different.

  • @MrJames6891
    @MrJames6891 Před rokem +1

    Who knew 4volts would be a huge difference. Seems like its the speed controller also

  • @steveh7108
    @steveh7108 Před rokem +1

    Why didn't you do the actual range? That's an extremely relevant topic especially when you consider how differently they accelerate.

  • @vpham92688
    @vpham92688 Před 2 lety

    How is the Kepler claiming 75 mile range on a single charge? Is the usage unrealistic like keep on Pedal Assist level 1 to get 75 miles? Anyone achieved 75 miles per charge?

  • @dsds4082
    @dsds4082 Před rokem +2

    ill probably get a Kepler someday when they actually can deliver them. 2-3 month wait is BS

  • @En4cer2K9
    @En4cer2K9 Před 2 lety +2

    How did you get a Kepler already? I ordered one myself a couple weeks ago,, but the website says "late May".

    • @Refresh636
      @Refresh636 Před 2 lety +1

      The company gives out the bikes to the ebike youtube reviewers

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      I was loaned one for a day and missed it that same night!
      I want one !! So fun to rip around on, and so easy to go up and over curbs with those huge tires .
      Thanks for watching!!

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety

      I got mine earlier than they said. I irdered on 4/6 and received it 49 days later!

  • @Onlybhstrpes
    @Onlybhstrpes Před 2 lety

    Bro, you out there near the RIO?

  • @realitycheck4158
    @realitycheck4158 Před 2 lety +4

    Was Rusty soaking up room service while you were out doing this?
    I picture him in tiny Terry cloth robe laying next to plate with grilled cheese watching Animal Planet.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +3

      Yes and yes but he prefers Nat Geo 😅🐾🥰

  • @racerx2095
    @racerx2095 Před 2 lety +3

    The Kepler is no joke imo ⚡👍👍💯 ⚡⚡⚡

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      I take it you've ridden one 🤘🏽😎

    • @racerx2095
      @racerx2095 Před 2 lety

      @@RustyRoads No l haven't yet but I'm going buy one soon bro. Thanks for the reply 👍👍💯⚡👍😁

    • @JimyOfficial
      @JimyOfficial Před 4 měsíci

      @@racerx2095did you buy?

  • @jfly2249
    @jfly2249 Před rokem +1

    Kepler is so 2022, it has been easily dethroned by the Wired Freedom or Wired Cruiser for $1999. 60v v 52v. No contest.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem

      Those look badass! Can’t wait to see which bikes takes the throne from these ⚡️🙌🏽

  • @Sirrichz28
    @Sirrichz28 Před 5 měsíci +1

    When you guys make these videos, you should tell us how tall you are and your weight. That makes a difference in speed and battery longevity.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 5 měsíci

      I mention my height 26 seconds in🤘🏽.
      I'm pretty sure I mention my weight at some point in the video as well. If not it's approx 145
      Thanks for watching 🐾

    • @Sirrichz28
      @Sirrichz28 Před 5 měsíci

      @RustyRoads Thank you sir .. now this will a difference I'm 6'3 240..

    • @Sirrichz28
      @Sirrichz28 Před 5 měsíci

      @RustyRoads I'm busy looking at your video & other small tasks at home.. I'll pay more attention b4 I comment 😁

  • @davidloss2608
    @davidloss2608 Před rokem +1

    Hi Michael, Can I ask how tall are you? Can you fit on the high bar Kepler?

  • @jpmyles1560
    @jpmyles1560 Před rokem +1

    I noticed that to ..the Ariel rider is always cheaper, but better than the competitors unless it’s much higher than the than the Ariel rider That’s why I chose the best one. The grizzly ❤… I thank you.

  • @donniealexander993
    @donniealexander993 Před 2 lety +2

    Not an apples-to -apples comparison. The Kepler has a 1000w motor vs. the Aventon 750w motor. It's obvious why the Kepler is faster and more responsive. Regardless of that, great video and I'm not hating at all. Love your content. I would like to see the Kepler go up against another 1000w motor bike.

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +1

      Definitely not apples to apples but they're comparable due to price 👍🏽
      Thanks for watching!
      Cheers 🐾⚡

    • @logitech12345678910
      @logitech12345678910 Před 2 lety +3

      Not true. I have an Adventure and it's laggy compared to other 750 watt bikes I have. It's even laggier than 500 watt bikes I have. The throttle lags, it takes off very slow, and when pedaling it sometimes take five or six rotations before the motor kicks in. I have a Kepler on order to replace it.

    • @markstunes3221
      @markstunes3221 Před 2 lety

      @@logitech12345678910 the motor kicks in on my Keplar in about a half of a rotation. I have started off in 5th or 6th gear on a slight incline and the pas always picks up my slack.

    • @logitech12345678910
      @logitech12345678910 Před 2 lety

      @@markstunes3221 that's great to hear. I have one on order so looking forward to replacing the Adventure. The Adventure has been an awesome bike, but the pedal delay really annoys me.

  • @InfinitelyQurious
    @InfinitelyQurious Před 2 lety +1

    I currently ride a Ariel Rider D-Class and love it's hill climbing ability. Is the Ariel Rider Kepler superior in that regard, or at least equally capable?

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety +1

      Hard to say considering the D class has 2 motors, a smaller battery, and the difference between 48 and 52V has to be factored in.
      However the dual motors on the D-Class should still give it an edge in hill climbing. Would love to test this !
      Awesome question, thanks for watching!!

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane Před 2 lety

      I vote D-Class. I got one recently, and it has a ton of torque. I messed with the settings, and it will do 35mph.

  • @Omegapointer
    @Omegapointer Před 2 lety +7

    So in many/most States, 750 watts is the maximum allowed on public roads-but you can ride on private land (with owners permission).
    The problem is that you can buy a 1500 watt bike and have way more fun but it is illegal and will only cause more rules and regulations as accidents increase.
    Aventon Aventure stays within the law and still provides comparable speed and fun imho.

  • @greatsanders1719
    @greatsanders1719 Před rokem +1

    Is either Ebike good for a person 5"8??

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před rokem

      That’s probably the best height for these 🤘🏽

  • @Elisplushies360woodierc
    @Elisplushies360woodierc Před 2 lety +1

    How does the Kepler accelerate compared to your xclass 52?

  • @deronharris2629
    @deronharris2629 Před rokem +1

    dose the kepler have peddle assist ?

  • @glennmaxey8226
    @glennmaxey8226 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m ready to buy a Grizzly. How can I get a discount?

    • @RustyRoads
      @RustyRoads  Před 2 lety

      They don't have discount codes anymore unfortunately 😔
      The bright side is their prices are pretty much discounts compared to the competition
      Thanks for watching!!