Join me as I attempt to uncover the mystery that is the Oocca / Ooccoo from The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, released on the Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U.
Not only did the Oocca build an advanced civilization, but they too had a hand in the founding of Hyrule as a kingdom. No, I’m not talking about the appearance of the Zonai and the union of King Rauru and Queen Sonia, I’m talking about THE founding of the Kingdom of Hyrule that set in motion the Era of Prosperity after the Era of Chaos ended. Between the original founding of Hyrule in the timeline most are already familiar with and the new founding of Hyrule depicted in both Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild before it, both have a similar history of advanced civilization and technology leagues ahead of their time, but the background obviously differs. In the original timeline, Goddess Hylia originally intended to establish dominion upon the land until Demise came with the lust for power of the Triforce, after Demise was sealed and later vanquished, the people of Skyloft eventually came to settle on the surface, a generation or two passes and word of the Triforce’s existence gets out, chaos breaks out, magic wielders caused senseless destruction, in the midst of it all, a group of dark interlopers devised a master plan to seize the Sacred Realm, only to be thwarted and banished to the Twilight Realm by the Light Spirits, the Sage of Light, Rauru, and other ancient sages built the Temple of Time as the gateway to the Sacred Realm and sealed its entrance with Rauru sealing himself inside the Temple of Light within the Realm to guard the Triforce. The Oocca came and helped the Hylians build the kingdom and the two races maintained contact between land and sky until time took its course and memories were forgotten. The new founding… is different… there was no mentioning of Demise, the Triforce, or the Oocca, only a race of goat-like god descendants, and the Secret Stones to amplify the powers of those who wield them. Zonai Rauru became a renowned leader, wed with a Hylian priestess, Sonia, and established the Kingdom of Hyrule (or rather THAT specific Hyrule because it bears no connection to the original), and the Zonai just… vanished… except for Rauru and Mineru. The very first Zelda turns out to be the time-displaced Era of the Wilds Zelda, hence how the Silent Princess flower got its name and it was traditional that Princesses of Hyrule were to be given the name in honor of the one who transformed into the Light Dragon. Also, Ganondorf appears (seemingly with no motive of his evil nature), steals one Secret Stone that made him so powerful that none of the others can stand up against him, so powerful that the Triforce of Power looks like a joke in comparison… So between these two foundations, they’re altered realities from each other. The Era of the Wilds didn’t really teach me anything… aside from the fact that Nintendo wanted to “start over”, but was rather hesitant doing so, never taking any of their past titles into consideration and never caring about it. There was a rumor that given how much time it’s been since BOTW started development, members of the Zelda dev team got so fed up making THIS specific era of Zelda that they never cared about how TOTK was shaping and what was missing from it… I mean, 10 years of focusing on one specific world and story, two mainline entries plus a Warriors spinoff that contradicts everything from the original, all of it with the same assets… could you really blame them for getting fed up with it and wanting to move on?
When I saw the Escher work irl, Twilight princess immediately came to mind. It's so nice to find someone out there who has made this same connection to it. Often I'm so flabbergasted by how much the Japanese seem to know about western art and literature to such specific niche degrees, making their way into their fictional forms of media.
the "other world" paintings are actually not 3 birds, but rather one bird from 3 different angles. i think that was the intent of the paintings, at first they are confusing and make no sense but once you realize this, they become logical and you gain an understanding of this other world. it might be representativ of enlightenment but im not sure on this one.
So you're saying the last four simorgs were the friends we made along the way? This is a cool, well researched theory, though the last 4 characters maybe a bit of a stretch 😅
The oocca may be immortal, but that doesn't mean that they can't be killed. It means that they won't die of old age. The word immortal and invulnerable are different words for a reason.
Well immortality and invulnerability are distinct but not quite like that. One means you don't die and the other means you can't be harmed. Some depictions of immortality are "functional immortality" as unlimited longevity but other depictions include surviving what should be fatal wounds. And being invulnerable doesn't inherently include living forever
I thought you were going to say Prince Ralis because he went from being timid to depressed and in mourning, to afraid to finally taking his place as the ruler of the Zora.
Huh. The explanation of the Simurgh as a Test Of Character/Journey Of Self Discovery actually recontextualizes/foreshadows some bits of Sorush's (a Pari fairy who is a descendant/fragment of an actual Simurgh) questline in Genshin Impact.
Glad you considered King Bulblin as one of the Simorgh, I absolutely LOVE him as a character and I always wondered what he did after Twilight Princess. Did he ally his people with Hyrule? It would make for a really good story arc for what was once an enemy of the kingdom to become an ally.
I really appreciate and know that you went to great lengths to research this and back up your research with evidence found in the game's world. I've always been really curious about these creatures, it is undeniable that the birds and their dungeon were inspired by M.C. Escher. I do wonder if the developers intended to reflect real world mythology into the game, or if those similiarities were just coincidence, your theories are certainly compelling though.
Yeah I still think it's just "cuckoo" reimagined with design inspired by European art, and European art being inspired by a lot of random stuff. But I learned interesting stuff in this video anyway
Simorgh means "thirty birds" and is known to have different appearances? Checks out in a probably unintentional way, that all instances of "a simorgh" or "the Simorgh" you see with the heads of dogs or humans or whatever are descendants of _different_ birds from the original 30 bird kings.
9:38 well actually it doesn’t matter how the sound of the name sounds in englisch because the original language from the developer is Japanese. The original name is „Oba-chan“ wich is a cute form for „aunt“. Ooccoo probably comes from a combination of obachan and Cocco.
I was under the impression Ooccoo came from the hexadecimal number of a shade of green. Nevermind. I paused it not two seconds away from him explaining that.
I'm afraid your wrong. This is actually based on the inmyeonjo of Korean mythology. You still did good research, its just Nintendos fault they sent you down a blind alley. Great theory on the Persian 30-bird anyway though! But yes, this is from Korean mythology. 🎉
If I could offer some constructive criticism, may I suggest recording each paragraph as a whole. The inflection in your voice at the end of each sentence, makes it painfully obvious that you're stringing many short clips together. It doesn't sound authentic or natural, more like an AI. Otherwise the material was engaging well enough keep up the good work.
Great video... but the way you say fuckin 'Hillian' is god damned painful. its HYLIAN god damned HIGH-LIAN. do ya think it was named after the godess Hillia?
Not only did the Oocca build an advanced civilization, but they too had a hand in the founding of Hyrule as a kingdom. No, I’m not talking about the appearance of the Zonai and the union of King Rauru and Queen Sonia, I’m talking about THE founding of the Kingdom of Hyrule that set in motion the Era of Prosperity after the Era of Chaos ended.
Between the original founding of Hyrule in the timeline most are already familiar with and the new founding of Hyrule depicted in both Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild before it, both have a similar history of advanced civilization and technology leagues ahead of their time, but the background obviously differs. In the original timeline, Goddess Hylia originally intended to establish dominion upon the land until Demise came with the lust for power of the Triforce, after Demise was sealed and later vanquished, the people of Skyloft eventually came to settle on the surface, a generation or two passes and word of the Triforce’s existence gets out, chaos breaks out, magic wielders caused senseless destruction, in the midst of it all, a group of dark interlopers devised a master plan to seize the Sacred Realm, only to be thwarted and banished to the Twilight Realm by the Light Spirits, the Sage of Light, Rauru, and other ancient sages built the Temple of Time as the gateway to the Sacred Realm and sealed its entrance with Rauru sealing himself inside the Temple of Light within the Realm to guard the Triforce. The Oocca came and helped the Hylians build the kingdom and the two races maintained contact between land and sky until time took its course and memories were forgotten.
The new founding… is different… there was no mentioning of Demise, the Triforce, or the Oocca, only a race of goat-like god descendants, and the Secret Stones to amplify the powers of those who wield them. Zonai Rauru became a renowned leader, wed with a Hylian priestess, Sonia, and established the Kingdom of Hyrule (or rather THAT specific Hyrule because it bears no connection to the original), and the Zonai just… vanished… except for Rauru and Mineru. The very first Zelda turns out to be the time-displaced Era of the Wilds Zelda, hence how the Silent Princess flower got its name and it was traditional that Princesses of Hyrule were to be given the name in honor of the one who transformed into the Light Dragon. Also, Ganondorf appears (seemingly with no motive of his evil nature), steals one Secret Stone that made him so powerful that none of the others can stand up against him, so powerful that the Triforce of Power looks like a joke in comparison…
So between these two foundations, they’re altered realities from each other. The Era of the Wilds didn’t really teach me anything… aside from the fact that Nintendo wanted to “start over”, but was rather hesitant doing so, never taking any of their past titles into consideration and never caring about it.
There was a rumor that given how much time it’s been since BOTW started development, members of the Zelda dev team got so fed up making THIS specific era of Zelda that they never cared about how TOTK was shaping and what was missing from it… I mean, 10 years of focusing on one specific world and story, two mainline entries plus a Warriors spinoff that contradicts everything from the original, all of it with the same assets… could you really blame them for getting fed up with it and wanting to move on?
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When I saw the Escher work irl, Twilight princess immediately came to mind. It's so nice to find someone out there who has made this same connection to it. Often I'm so flabbergasted by how much the Japanese seem to know about western art and literature to such specific niche degrees, making their way into their fictional forms of media.
Dude your personality totally reminds me of Pesky Plays! I feel like the ooccoo is so underrated in Twilight Princess. Great insights😊
the "other world" paintings are actually not 3 birds, but rather one bird from 3 different angles. i think that was the intent of the paintings, at first they are confusing and make no sense but once you realize this, they become logical and you gain an understanding of this other world. it might be representativ of enlightenment but im not sure on this one.
So you're saying the last four simorgs were the friends we made along the way?
This is a cool, well researched theory, though the last 4 characters maybe a bit of a stretch 😅
The oocca may be immortal, but that doesn't mean that they can't be killed. It means that they won't die of old age.
The word immortal and invulnerable are different words for a reason.
Pretty sure if you would cut their heads off they die.
I wonder how they would taste on a bbq with some good scrub.
Well immortality and invulnerability are distinct but not quite like that. One means you don't die and the other means you can't be harmed. Some depictions of immortality are "functional immortality" as unlimited longevity but other depictions include surviving what should be fatal wounds. And being invulnerable doesn't inherently include living forever
I thought you were going to say Prince Ralis because he went from being timid to depressed and in mourning, to afraid to finally taking his place as the ruler of the Zora.
9:25-9:45 sounds like the ramblings of a madman 😅 oocoo cucco hoopoe spookoo
This research and video is goated, can’t wait for this channel to blow up more 🔥 keep up the good content bro
This is why you're my favorite Ooccoo CZcamsr
Great video my guy!
“That’s just a theory” a game theory! Couldn’t help myself lol
Amazing video! You deserve more subscribers
Huh. The explanation of the Simurgh as a Test Of Character/Journey Of Self Discovery actually recontextualizes/foreshadows some bits of Sorush's (a Pari fairy who is a descendant/fragment of an actual Simurgh) questline in Genshin Impact.
15:05 immortality doesn't mean they can't die it just means they won't have an end to their natural life cycle. Sorry that was really bothering me....
Glad you considered King Bulblin as one of the Simorgh, I absolutely LOVE him as a character and I always wondered what he did after Twilight Princess. Did he ally his people with Hyrule? It would make for a really good story arc for what was once an enemy of the kingdom to become an ally.
I really appreciate and know that you went to great lengths to research this and back up your research with evidence found in the game's world. I've always been really curious about these creatures, it is undeniable that the birds and their dungeon were inspired by M.C. Escher. I do wonder if the developers intended to reflect real world mythology into the game, or if those similiarities were just coincidence, your theories are certainly compelling though.
Very insightful. Very cool.
Counting the Oocoos was so anti-climactic lol
For real. Why did he even include this section?
Great video!
You make a good video and did a great research on art and culture.
I hope you get more views, you deserve it.
Yeah I still think it's just "cuckoo" reimagined with design inspired by European art, and European art being inspired by a lot of random stuff. But I learned interesting stuff in this video anyway
Simorgh means "thirty birds" and is known to have different appearances? Checks out in a probably unintentional way, that all instances of "a simorgh" or "the Simorgh" you see with the heads of dogs or humans or whatever are descendants of _different_ birds from the original 30 bird kings.
i find another youtuber who makes zelda content - i subscribe
I loved that you used the bamboo island theme from Skyward Sword.
This is such a great insight and most likely what the nintendo team intended with such a great game too!!
*H i l l i a n s*
E h p u h n u h
Them Hylian hillbillies
Even though I think it might be a bit too much of a stretch, all this is pretty interesting. Good research!
the whole 4 character link thing is a little bit of a stretch, but i am impressed by the rest.
Wind Tribe, Farore's Wind, Dominion Rod, Windwaker, Shad, Mako. 🤷♀️
9:38 well actually it doesn’t matter how the sound of the name sounds in englisch because the original language from the developer is Japanese. The original name is „Oba-chan“ wich is a cute form for „aunt“. Ooccoo probably comes from a combination of obachan and Cocco.
I saw the thumbnail change, this split screen showing a possible origin was more engaging for me over the previous oocca thumbnail
Bravo! Fantastic theory! I hope this is true, as it makes the story much cooler
Maybe the Simorgh is the friends we made along the way?
The real simourgh is the friends we made along the way
I was under the impression Ooccoo came from the hexadecimal number of a shade of green.
Nevermind. I paused it not two seconds away from him explaining that.
There is no reason to mispronounce a word like Hylian.
R u a cw.
Someone said it
Hillians. you know, from Hirulé.
jk. but idk, maybe Princess Hilda has something to do with it?
I'm so glad this comment is here I was SO confused 😅
@@munnymic if you know of Hilda you know of Lorule. If you know how to pronounce Lorule you MUST know Hyrule is meant to be pronounced high-rule 😭
these things are my favorite part of twilight princess
When i played Twilight princess for the first time i thought the occa was sad the whole time bc their faces i am not the only one thinking that.
All this trivia dump, and not any mention of such cryptids as Harpy or Alkonost.
BRUH.
NIPPLECHICKEN!!!
Nice
The video is an autistic rant about a special interest and I love it
Creepy bird
My theory, they evolved from the wind tribe
The alkanost or russian sirin better fits the look of the ooccoo
Harpies
I'm afraid your wrong. This is actually based on the inmyeonjo of Korean mythology. You still did good research, its just Nintendos fault they sent you down a blind alley. Great theory on the Persian 30-bird anyway though! But yes, this is from Korean mythology. 🎉
*"Hillians"*
If I could offer some constructive criticism, may I suggest recording each paragraph as a whole. The inflection in your voice at the end of each sentence, makes it painfully obvious that you're stringing many short clips together. It doesn't sound authentic or natural, more like an AI. Otherwise the material was engaging well enough keep up the good work.
Oh das delicious
Great video... but the way you say fuckin 'Hillian' is god damned painful. its HYLIAN god damned HIGH-LIAN. do ya think it was named after the godess Hillia?
Sim-Erg . . . . 0/2
Hillians
It is an outrageous stretch to link the 4 "missing" oocoas to 4 characters that happen to have a character arc.
This guy ends every sentence with the same tone. It sounds totally unnatural.
The speech pattern was already off, but mispronounced Hylian? Neuro-divergence shows up again.
Hard to watch
First
Narration needs some work, too many sentences have the upward inflection and it makes you sound unsure of what you're saying.
Literally didn't notice what you said lol
You are pronouncing Hylian wrong it is pronounced Hye Leean.
My guy, its not Hillians 😂
Hy, its pronounced the same as Haj, as in Blåhaj?
...wait no, that's uh, less clear
Hy, as in High
High, lee-n
After hearing you pronounce HI - LEAH - UH one way and HILL - E - UHNS like that, it's just too fucking annoying.