The MYSTERY of the Oocca & City in the Sky - ft. Zeltik (Zelda Theory)
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- Who are the Oocca of Twilight Princess?
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#ZeldaTheory #Oocca #TwilightPrincess - Hry
“Oh my gosh is that a Zonai Spiral?!”
Burst out laughing.
I died😂😂
Same
I laughed so hard I had to replay it 😂
I deid😁😁
I thought he said “squirrel”...
Wouldn't be the first time in the series that a humanoid race became... decidedly less humanoid. The Kokiri underwent a similar transformation into the Koroks.
I still think the Oocca are the inspiration behind Momo.
I'm pretty sure he said "swirl"
Koroks: Man, evolution REALLY did a number on our Kokiri ancestors...
Oocca: Hold our Zonai beer.
Yeah, Tears of the Kingdom just complicates everything doesn’t it?
(Please don’t give me spoilers; I don’t want spoilers thanks)
so true
The Legend of Zelda: Ooccoorina of Time
First of all, how dare you
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Oc as in octorock
@@calebryhal293 octorina of time?
The name ooccoo is actually in reference to the original Zelda game where the colour of links tunic has the hex code 00cc00. It's also pronounced oo as in boomerang.
I can't get over the pronunciation in this video
@@Jason-ir5ig I can't either. It's both wrong and inconsistent.
Cute, but it's not actually true. As with most 8-bit consoles and computers of the era that output composite video, RGB values were used nowhere in the graphics pipeline. In the NES the master hardware palette was organized largely by hue and luminance and only 6 bits at that.
@@sa3270 But that does not mean that they couldn't have identified the color by its hex value by the time they made Twilight Princess. Every color has a hex code, and that was true at the time of creating Ooccoo. The color couldn't have been identified by a hex using the NES, but it certainly could have using the technology of the time when they created Twilight Princess.
@John Smith why did you say that
Alternate Title: The MYSTERY of chicken people.
You know, if we're basing Groose's lineage based on his hair color, by this logic he could also be the ancestor to Malon.
There's also his prominent lip coloration and golden eyes. Based on those and the red hair, he's easily the ancestor of the Gerudo.
@@mr.mcnerdo gerudo in ocarina of time do have yellow eyes yes, although this feature was removed in BoTW. Also might be worth note several other races have yellow eyes, like zora, deku, and even hylian if you look at some of the botw npcs. The defined colored lips are only due to them being a tribe of "beautiful warrior women". male gerudo like ganondorf lack this feature.
@@cinnamintie I didn’t really get why they changed their appearance in BotW, I just know that they were extremely attractive in OoT and MM. That’s the main version of the race that we’d seen during the Era of Myth and therefore closer to Groose. As far as eye color, the Rito didn’t exist prior to the Adult Timeline and BotW and the Zora’s eyes are only variants of blue and purple during the Era of Myth. If you consider that and how many characteristics that the Gerudo and Groose have in common, including being human, you can see that they are the closest in design to each other in the era of myth (which is better and chronologically earlier than the Era of the Wilds).
@@mr.mcnerdo they probably changed the appearance in botw because the Gerudo started having babies with Hylians
@@teateakira5971 Aye, that's probably the case. However, they were likely marrying Hylians and Ordonians (Round-Eared Humans) the entire time, seeing as Ganondorf had to be born from a Gerudo despite them all being female. And in the Lore of OoT, they’d come to the City of Hyrule (Castle Town) to meet boyfriends.
It’s possible that the child’s ethnicity was determined by its sex. Theoretically, this would mean that Gerudo women would have Hylian sons and Gerudo daughters.
*OR* they could only have daughters, therefore any children they had would completely take after them. Personally, I prefer the latter, as it is the most lore friendly. As far as BotW, maybe that trait eventually changed to allow more and more Hylian or Ordonian traits to go into the children.
Everyone knows that groose was the one who made love with his loft wing and brought forth the oocca
That is...highly disturbing......
I regret reading this *why-*
Why would you make me read this
YES
Oh nope.
I find it hysterically compelling that Groose is the ancestor of the noble red haired Wind Tribe and will now adopt it as my own head canon.
If being "closer to the gods" means you look like that, I'm fine without it. They look...wrong
there are actually different types of angels other than the most common depictions of humans with wings, theyre literal horrors :D
Dovahfruit Yeah. The Bayonetta games have tons of angels who look completely different from what you’d expect them to
There is a little girl at a stable by the castle in botw she says “good boys can girls and see the castle in the sky” so uh idk if that means anything to you but it does to me
Wait which stable?
I always interpreted that as them misunderstanding what Vah Medoh is, but you're right, it could be referencing something related to the Wind Tribe or City in the Sky.
I doubt it but I kinda hope it’s a nod to what happens in botw 2
dA_n00bLeT 64 it’s the woodland stable
Homeless man Steve thx!
I love how Ooccoo spends more than half of the game searching for the Dominion Rod in the WRONG dungeons, at coincidentally the exact same time as Link, and is always inexplicably getting stuck inside pots that are too small to house the Dominion Rod.
i mean i think it's very likely that she doesn't know what size the rod is supposed to be, and since the occa have become very small, she probably just assumes the dominion rod is probably more her size
@@lavendelchen or she was looking for clues, like a piece of paper of something
Finally! Someone said what I've been thinking for years; that the ancestors of the Twili were made up of several different races and not just either the Gerudo or Sheikah. It's the only thing that's made sense to me -- I've always felt that there were too many references and inconsistentcies for it to just be one group.
Hylian Terrier
I personally think they’re predominantly a tribe formed from Gerudo Survivors and banished Yiga (aka, BotW isn’t the first time the Sheikah splintered apart, especially since the Sheikah are ALWAYS either nearly extinct or...suppressed, if not both, and always By Royal Order)
Which isn’t to say that other peoples didn’t wind up getting banished to the Twilight Realm as well “for rebellion” or the risk of “being too powerful”. The Arbiters Grounds built over the remains of the Spirit Temple (OUCH...) (and that place Link fights bublins? The remains of Gerudo Fortress. The Hylians destroyed it) is simply too elaborate to be a One-Time Use until they finally let it fall into ruin (but didn’t destroy it and kept it as a symbol of Hylian Superiority-just left it under the protection of their Sage Cronies. Ganondorf even receiving the Triforce last second is kinda evidence that at least some of the gods didn’t approve of what the Royal Family and Sages were doing)
No clue if you've seen it, but QuestWithAaron has a video about the Twili where he confirmed that in Japanese, rather than there being a group of "interlopers" who wanted to take the Triforce, among the people of Hyrule were people capable of magic who wished to claim Hyrule for themselves. This instead sounds like Hylians sorcerers wanted to cause an insurrection, rather than an outside group like the Gerudo. I could still see it possibly being the Sheikah, given that only one is known to still be alive in Hyrule, but it is still left incredibly vague.
Nobody:
My chickens at 3 am:
The Oocca are my sleep paralysis demons.
_strange magical flute noises_
Nobody:
The entire Zelda community: OH MY GOSH! IS THAT A ZONAI SWIRL?
😂
Exacly
Wind tribe? Red hair. Hero in prophecy? Red hair. Barbarian armor, belonged to the Zonai tribe? Red hair. Swirls? Everywhere. Architecture in the Wind ruins? Just like the Zonai. Owl statues? Zonai AND Ooccoo. Checkmate, Azonaiists.
Brian Bethea Eeyup! Illumitwili confirmed!~
This will end up like Uzumaki...
(A horror story about Spirals)
Before this video I thought the Oocca were from Skyward Sword, since they live in the sky.
An NBC and Zeltik collab. This will be good!
So that’s what NBC stands for
.agreed
I didn’t see the title just clicked on the vid and hearing his voice just gave me the biggest smile. Time to watch!
Well...... was it?
You bet
Here is an interesting question: once Link finishes a quest and saves Hyrule, what happens to the items he obtains in the game? Do they go back to where he found them, get passed down, or does the royal family take them? It would be interesting to find out what happens to the items.
He bullies zelda with them
I believe it depends on the item.
Things like the Dominion Rod or Ocarina of Time would (eventually) return to the care of the Royal Family for safekeeping.
Items that have cultural significance to a certain race would be returned to them- Megaton hammer to the Gorons, Kokiri Sword to the Kokiri ect...
Regular or other items he would just keep himself. Bow, hookshot, Ball and chain, Spinner, Iron boots.
Or he might pass them to those that helped him in order to preserve them for a future hero.
The Hero’s bow in TP is said to have been used by a past hero and is found in the Goron Mines
@@HogW1ld385 Specifically the Hero of Time.
@@HogW1ld385 Link kept the Kokiri Sword in Majora's Mask though. He even potentially upgrades it into the Razor Sword, then the Gilded Sword.
Aura Strike448 ok so I’m wrong about the sword. Hell since the Kokiri are perpetual kids until they turn into something else maybe the Sword was actually made specially for Link and just called Kokiri.
Doesn’t negate my whole idea
"Unless we are to believe went up with Skyloft, then down, then up again..."
This tribe goes down, but they go up again! You're never gonna keep 'em down!
Love that song!
Chumbawamba
Lol this made my day ❤
The things I have to say about the Oocca
1:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
2: nonononononononono nononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononono
Want a nightmare inducing thought?
Look at the Oocca face. Then look at Grog. Then remember Grog liked Cuccos in every game we see him.
3: WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Duja89, i can’t believe you’ve done this
Them: ancient bird people from the sky
Me: they’re gonna talk about loftwings
Them: we need to talk about other games
Me: loftwings from Skyward Sword
Them: wind tribe from Minnish Cap
Me: uh, what?
Same
Skyward Sword came out after Twilight Princess.
In time line, skyward sword is the first game in the lore series that we know of.
@@TheRandomTubeTV what he meant was, since twilight princess came first, no skyward sword references appeared since Nintendo released that game later.
@@Hikax01 well, minish cap came before both
LMAO “OH MY GOD IS THAT A ZONAI SWIRL?!”
“Oh sweet Hylia and all that is holy”
And that's why, "Link's Crossbow Training" is Canon. ;-)
Jeez their dungeon always had me on edge, the song that played dindn't really help either.
I know right!? It's so unsettling
Weah yeah keah teah ma peat ta p-- ok I'll stop
I loved it. So creepy and chilling and... ancient feeling, like you are in a realm with a mystery you could never comprehend. That music and feeling always reminded me of OoT forest temple.
The SPINOFF Podcast
Tbh I really dislike the oot forest temple music, too. It’s too repetitive. Oot water temple’s music is also not great, and the spirit temple, but at least those two are closer to something “sounding ancient”
The goddess's silent realm in skyward sword was worse, skyloft without residents is just scary...at least the city in the sky had some supportive residents
I remember, when I was visiting the M.C. Escher museum last year, my mom called me from another room, and said: "look it's one of those creepy Zelda birds haha". I was amazed! I made pics of all the drawings depicting the creatures. TIL Nintendo actually took inspiration from those drawings.
I remember playing tp for the first time and being freaked out by those guys, they used to scare me lmao
Alessia M. Same
I thought they were really cool looking, but maybe that was because even as a kid horror and strange Creatures were my favorite. I also just always loved abstract art, probably because that's the only kind of art I can draw?
my TV was low enough resolution that i didn't really notice how scary they looked.
I remember seeing it for the first time then suddenly the game was finished. I can't recall playing anything. I had to start over again.
Just be real: some designer tasked with creating an alien looking race made this cursed chicken in one night with no lore in mind.
Honestly zelda lore is so unfulfilling compared to other games like dark souls that you may be right.
They are inspired by M. C. Escher.
@@cheetoh3149 most of dark souls lore comes through freaking weapon descriptions lmao
@@vovabars1234 and all zelda lore is nothing more than face value. What you see is what you get. It's just very shallow.
@@cheetoh3149 I would rather have that honestly
So...the Sky People/Oocca...are Hylians...who interbred with their Loftwing partners...who then interbred again with Cucco's...
I sure hope not
So you are saying that the hylians commited beastiality alot of times?
@@poopserver8084 most likeley, even a hylian fell in love with a fish folk in botw 🤣 the beastiality is not the wierdest part but the loli-pedo influence in US version
@@elcidabiera9751 no not quite. The Zora are sentient making them unlike usual fish. Hell, The main food source of The Zora is fish. It wouldn't be bestiality. Also the Ooccoo are also a sentient being separate thing from Cuccos and are also not an ancestor of the Hylians. Therefore, that could not be possible.
ew
I"d rather hear other theories anyways than botw 2 ones since we NEED MORE INFO ON THE DAMN GAME lol :P
I've always believed that oocca were a created race, perhaps genetically engineered by the actual builders of the sky city and dominion rod, etc. possibly left behind as caretakers for the sky city. I do not believe they are the ones who actually built those things. though over the ages they may have forgotten their origins and come to believe that they did those things.
My theory has always been that the Wind Tribe are the descendants of Skyloft, and they inhabited both the land & sky (like, the Air Nomads from Avatar), inevitably remaining there by the Minish Cap...
I also believe that they, and not the Oocca, are the true builders of the City in the Sky, for the sole undeniable fact that the Oocca👏don't👏got👏no👏hands👏😂 (also, things there are just too big for them to operate easily)
The sky is a pretty big place, ya'know? So logically, the Wind Tribe could simply inhabit another region of Hyrule's sky...
Or the same sky-dimension Skyloft seemed to be in...
When on the surface, one look up and there's not but clear skies, certainly not enough clouds to obscure seeing Skyloft (as it seems it would from Skyloft looking down)...
**cough cough** where do the BotW Dragons go? **cough**
You mean, like the powerful regional gods and godlike beings that appear for only one game but were supposedly always there? Now THAT'S worth a theory video. Where were these beings?
The "portals" they go through have a similar aesthetic to where the clouds part leading to the surface in Skyward sword. Being gods, they wouldn't need a special key or tablet to unlock the path between the sky and surface. There has been multiple games now where link can see spirits - remember, the koroks, the dragons, are invisible to most people. While Lord jabu-jabu and a couple others have been there for everyone to see and interact with that wasn't just link, most of them only appear because link is pure/still a kid. I do believe the oocco - before they were cursed or whatever happened to them - had to create all the fans and propellers to prevent the land from falling...and due to the fact they could no longer jump the gaps as people because the land was breaking apart...that left flight as an only option for evolution, or the only solution. I'd like to think they are the remaining people who refused to leave skyloft after SS. The science-y answer is they intentionally tried to modify their genetic makeup so they could at least glide/fly while retaining their sentience and whatnot. It's not made a point of, but Skyloft does have advanced technology. Would be kinda weird - though fitting in a way - that Groose's cannon eventually gets modified into the cannon we find in twilight princess - it has enough power to shoot you to the city in the sky, conviently. After as, link must've kept the clawshots on the Skyloft until centuries later, one falls off into the lake hylia.
That's what I always thought
I thought that too. It would make more sense those were the people who didn't leave the sky and evolved into those things.
neoanimegirl yeah I would say the wind tribe are the descendants of the skyloftians who stayed up there, and the ooccaa are the decendants of the Loftwings
After relearning the Oocca backstory and how similar the Zonai are after playing TOTK, my headcanon at the moment is that they are the result of inbreeding evolution of the Zonai to survive a harsh climate going on at the city of the sky for centuries.
So our favorite goat hybrid people could be responsible for these humanoid chicken people? I love it! Plus, would fit neatly with the fact that we have a Zonai king married to a Hylian queen in the first place. So yeah, beastiality confirmed..
1:51 I NEARLY KEELED OVER LAUGHING BAHAHAHAHA
8:42
He had an awfully good *Wind* relationship with the *Wind* people who dwealt in the *Wind* ruins. The ocarina of *WIND*
Thinking about it, there's that coocco in A Link to the Past that becomes a woman when you sprinkle magic powder on it. Hmmm
The city in the sky was always my favorite Zelda theory.
Sheikah, Gerudo, Wind Tribe, connected to the twilight and we only see 3 shadow links in the interloper cutscene...Hmm seems legit.
Me: there kinda cute...
Everyone else: NO
Elfa Wood
They grow on you
So i'm not the only one who thinks they're cute
You heathens should have been sealed away with the interlopers.
I just think they look silly. Not creepy, not cute, just... silly.
...It's also fun to throw them around where you're allowed to.
No
I noticed the markings on the Hero's Shade armor looks an awful lot like the dominion rod's symbol.
Plot Twist: The Oocca are the zonai
Consider the implications now of instead of the wind tribe becoming it oocca, it was the zonai.
Both live in the sky, both maintained early relations with the kingdom, and that owl statue looks awfully familiar…
I always had a little head theory that after Skyward Sword, some of the Skyloftians missed the sky. They learned how to keep a piece of land airborne and then, with the permission of Princess Zelda, they left. Why wouldn’t they keep in contact? They knew each other personally! And as Hylians, they already have an understanding of Magic. It’s not unreasonable to believe that they would learn about technology as their society continued. Eventually their bodies became more and more bird-like, until we have the Occa. Why wouldn’t they have some more details hidden in places like the Temple of Time? They used to worship there! They probably left records of their continued bond with the Hylians there as a monument to their friendship. They still understand Hylian because they used to speak it! Oh wait. Nevermind. I just got to the end of the video. Ok.
I don't know. Nintendo feels like they are phasing out the Four Sword games into their own thing. You could basically remove them all from the main series and no plot holes would be created.
The Oocca have the same ability as Farores Wind in OoT, and also is represented by green energy. This implies they are granted power from Farore, or the Triforce of Courage.
Also, that scene with the interlopers mirrors Link in Majoras Mask meeting the moon children inside the moon. Although two of the children aren't there, and the ones present look like Dark Link, the resemblance, symbolism and connection is striking.
People often hate on Twilight Princes but for me it is one of my favourite games of ALL time. Even if the plot is a little straight forward and linear, the land of Hyrule is STUNNING in TP. Sometimes I even just spent time standing on top of Snow Peak looking at the peaks far ahead thinking what mysteries they might hold. It is just soo much fun theorizing about the hidden notes and mysteries that it outshines the entire story of the game.
Gorgeous game, honey😂
People really often hate on it? I thought most people sung its praises
Out of all the plot issues TOTK created, the Zonai may have helped clear this up. Not sure how goat dragon people later became chickens with human heads, but both are highly advanced civilizations with a heavy presence in the sky.
Dinosaurs became birds so maybe??
Occo is one of my favorite characters from Twilight Princess, because if you warped out of the dungeon before saving and quitting, you didn't have to restart it.
the Ooccoo are obviously the descendants of Loftwings, duh!
Maybe but I doubt they would turn intelligent
Your profile pic scared the shit outta me-
@Zachary Erickson it was stated in SS that loftwings and their riders are two parts of a whole, and nothing says that it's biologically related.
also there's the worse possibility that someone on skyloft tapped that bird ass which would explain why the ooccoo are horrible titty chickens with human faces
@@aloeera please... no more...
That chicken gave me nightmares when I was 7... I still shudder at the thought 😨
Always thought City in the Sky was connected to Minish Cap's Wind Tribe. Glad to have more evidence to support it
They are weird chickens
Karjuu indeed
You didn't say first
TH3 K!NG Thats gay
About the Oocca, they're so alien in appearance that I can only imaguine them coming from the end of time. From when the Goddesses have abandoned the world completely and Demise and his hordes of demons once again roam the land in greater number than ever before. Only two races remain. The Gorons who may have been the first race to walk the lands, and who are likely to be the last. And the Oocca, who are the descendants of the Hylians, who over the course of millions of years and with the aide of magic, cast aside their ancient forms for these more efficient ones. They survive by rising high above the demonic hordes in their own sky cities. The maintain the Gates of Time, trough which they can travel back to past and oversee the progress of fate. They have been with Hyrule from the beginning, although they originate from long after it's end. At least, that's how I like to imagine it.
I can't help but feel how closely the Oocca's face resembles Zants.
Did they once have contact and even control of the Twili? Or are they a close descendant or relative that just adapted to life in the sky? The resemblance to Zant's face is uncanny. Notably, in the same game too.
"CAN WE JUST GO BACK TO BREATH OF THE WILD 2 THEORIES!? Those for the days..." What a splendid and magnificent line. But we all know what the true 'good old days were' a CZcams landscape with thumbnails saying
"ZELDA WII U
A SKYWARD SWORD DIRECT SEQUEL!?"
🤔you right
That will always be one of my favorite dungeon
Someone I know once said that the ooca are the evolved forms of the people who lived in Skyloft and that is frankly terrifying.
18:35 That symbol can also be found on the portal/door that Zant hands use to travel between rooms. Also, would you consider making a video on Death Sword?
Who?
I believe Zeltik has a video on Death Sword
AMAZING COLLAB! Both videos were some of the best Zelda vids I’ve seen in a while! 🙌🙌
Thank you for doing a video on the Oocca! They're my favorite species in Zelda lore.
Zeltik: But what does this all mean?
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I love these theories about the older games, especially when there are strings between multiple games.
I found the entire City in the Sky so creepy and unsettling as a kid. Somehow, everything about it just felt off to me and I'm not sure I've ever gotten that feeling from a game since. It's part of what made me love the game so much, I think because it seemed so viscerally otherworldly.
Really enjoyed this! Great job y'all! 😁😁
Sometimes I really hope Nintendo watches theories as well done as yours. Like, things that they might have done accidentally could then make the story more complete, changing their future storyline based on these really well done theories
I always thought the Occa were originally citizens of Skyloft who aid in the construction of Hyrule then returned to their floating city. Using the wind to travel back and forth via the bird statues in SS.
Being accustomed to this method of wind manipulation, they may have developed an affinity for this art, and with the passage of time they bacame race associated with the wind - the wind tribe.
Their affinity for wind magic may link to one of the founding goddesses. In OoT Farore's wind allows Link to travel out of dungeons - quite similar to Occa's power in SS. Another link between Farore and the Occa can be inferred from the presence of the lone triangle atop the hyrulean bird crest. If the triangle a representation of Farore, and she is associated with wind, then this could be depicting wind beings above Hyrule. Keep in mind that birds, wind and teleportation have been linked before in MM, with the bird statues. Once again, this link is present in SS too.
Ultimately, I believe the Occoa are an evolved wind tribe, who in turn can trace their origins to those closest to Hylia herself: the citizens of Skyloft.
As for the blue energy that serves as a seemingly eternal power source for the sentries that protect the temple of time, I would speculate they are powered by timeshift stones, and may have been created by the proto-Occa - a race that pre-dates the Occa and had access to timeshift stone. Alternatively, the guardians of the temple of time could be powered by the blue energy that powers the robotic race in SS, since this energy seemingly powers automotons in the SS era, such as beamos.
Also, why do all Zelda races seem to evolve into birds? The Zora and the Wind Tribe seem to undergone similar evolutions. Are all the races supposed to evolve in a way that makes them able to return to the sky? Perhaps its a genetic/devine defence mechanism Hylia installed so as to protect all the races from DEMISE and his demons on the surface?
Heck yeah! Another TP vid! Great job on this one!
Love your vid’s also this is the earliest I’ve ever been to one of your videos
Alternate title : what happens when you try to find lore out of reused wall assets!
The moment you realize that NBC's real name is William.
I've been watching him for a whole and did not not that..
a whole what, A WHOLE WHAT?
@@dovahfruit9503 uhh whole
Salad-
You two have the best Zelda related content and theories!
I am LIVING for these collabs between my fave Zelda channels ❤
could the hero of time have been the messanger of the sky
Since the rod is in the temple of time
and the temple has been heavily altered with sky people symbols
Could mean the the ococo helped RECONSTRUCT the temple of time
The only one who could access the second part of temple(to store away the Rod) is one who has the master sword and ocarina of time
That person being the hero of time
EDIT something may have happened between ocarina and twilight like ganondorf revolting which destroyed it
Theory maybe the reason ganon sent the dragon there is because the ococo helped fight ganondorf using there technology
so to stop them intervening he sent a dragon like he did to stop the other races
EDIT I get the tiles are meaningless but they were taken from the art book meaning they have have been considered at one point
We still don't have the game where the Hero of Time loses his eye, dies, and becomes the Hero's Shade awaiting the next Link. Maybe it could be in that hypothetical game.
@@nillynush4899 not sure I want him to lose an eye lol
He suffered a lot
Losing an eye would just be mean
Although a 3rd game would be great
better theory on the dragon:
ganondwarf sent it because he got creeped the freak out by the titty chickens
My theory is after some time the tribe of the winds did some love (if you know what I mean) with their chickens
no. just no.
Even if that did happen, it wouldn’t have created offspring
It is amazing how many details really go into to the LoZ games. And this video really made me realize I remember very little about twilight princess so now I have to go play it again. Thanks a lot guys!
12:34
it's almost like ... there's a development process or something ... and these games are stringed together by mostly just iconography....
OMG I asked for this theory last week!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
But did you guys know that those TPHD murals in Castle Town are actually meaningless? The designer who worked on it admitted that he just wanted to make it look cool.
Also, Groot openly admitted that he'd be staying up in Skyloft at the end of Skyward Sword, so there's a chance that he'd be an ancestor.
yeahhhh we see in skyward sword that the Occah have nothing to do with the birth of hyrule.
The simplest explanation is that the scholar's theory was, gasp, wrong.
This is a good reason to make a game, invalidate the theory that the weird chicken with way to many nipple looking feathers created the world.
Great video; very informative and intricate in the lore I enjoy learning about.
Very interesting theory. Seems pretty solid and the info about the "interlopers" were some damn good points.
Just a thought...Groose did build a catapult that launched Link into Faron Woods. This is similar to and could have been the predecessor of the Oocca Sky Cannon in Lake Hylia, further tying Skyward Sword (Skyloft and its inhabitants) to the oocca race.
Why does every species in Hyrule evolve so quickly into other species... Except the Hylians themselves?
This is just me spitballing here, but if you think about it, each (big) race of hyrule since ocarina of time are the chosen race of one of the goddesses:
Gorons for Din
Zora for Nayru
Kokiri for Farore
and Hylians for, well, Hylia
In my mind, the reason why the Zora eventually split into the Rito as well is because of Nayru's direct influence and Wisdom to attempt to keep all the races still connected
The Kokiri eventually becoming the Koroks probably took a VERY long time, but Farore's connection to the earth and life would've helped to nudge them towards their more plant-like appearances
As for why the Gorons don't change, in my mind, since Din is the goddess of Power, with power comes stubbornness. Gorons don't change because they don't need to, they're powerful and strong by themselves, and with few exceptions, the other races are "weaker" by comparison
And the Hylians? Hylia is dead. Their goddess is literally not around at all to nudge them along an evolutionary path
The other races found throughout the series are guided by a different god or spirit, or none at all, which nudges their evolution in a different way
That's just my theories tho
EDIT: mixed up Rito and Ruto and fixed some capitalization :P
@@TheElemento158 A-are you sure that Hylia is... Dead? 😥
@@Noodelousart123 Hylia abandoned her divinity and immortality to be reborn as skyward sword zelda, and although link reincarnates properly, demise's curse doesn't apply to zelda in the same way: "My hate... never perishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end! I will rise again! Those like you... Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse."
Note how it says who share the BLOOD of the goddess, or as I interpret it, the bloodLINE, while link properly reincarnates with "the spirit of the hero", that could mean someone with courage and a willingness to fight against evil, but I like the reincarnation theory better
But yeah, by that interpretation at least, hylia is definitely dead
@@TheElemento158 makes sense. I never thought of it that way exactly 🤷
@@TheElemento158 Isn't Hylia a godess again after her death as SS Zelda?
You can talk to her in BotW and she banished the weird statue also in BotW
Interesting theory! Thanks for uploading!
HAHA I CALLED IT! I had a feeling your next theory would be about the mystery of the Oocca! Really well done!!
Here's a somewhat random related theory. Maybe after the wind tribe moved above the clouds they came in cotact with loftwings so they used Magic and/or tech to combine themselves with the Loftwingsas the feathers would allow them to float on/in the wind better and eventually they settled in the remains of Skyloft then they became the sky people as they appear in TP. There is a mechanical appearance suggesting it was a tech combination. Perhaps it was a punishment from the gods/goddesses for tampering with the holy creatures.
Aftrr TotK, I have a strong feeling they came from the Zonai. They have basically the same role as founders of Hyrule with advanced tech that allows for constructs and flying cities, plus there's that spiral.
Also been thinking recently they might be related to the Minish for similar reasons
I love that you guys are connecting all the different symbols!!! Certainly have a keen eye!
I've theorized for a long while that the Interlopers were of different races come together (Gerudo, Sheikah, Hylian, nd maybe even the Zonai), but the idea that they could have also been of the Wind Tribe or Occa is fascinating as they were around from the very begining and posses both magic and technology!
And obviously we saw no Zonai patterns in loz tp, so they aren't there with their powerful magics, which leaves the Occa.
Maybe.
~nya
I just love than NBC, Zeltik and Hyrule Gamer all work together for Legend of Zelda videos
Good the REAL NBC. Those death threats actually worked.
Note: this is a reference to one of my comments on a another one of his videos
When ur comment gets more likes then ur CZcams channel videos
AdamPlayzz if you have playz in your name then your comments will always get more likes than your videos. (Also making Siri say bitch? Why?)
The Theorist I tried it because my brother told me but screen recording with Siri doesn’t work.
AdamPlayzz well that’s an F in the chat
The wind tribe and the loft wings and the people who stayed behind in the sky in skyward sword are clearly all the same tribe my dude. I think the fact that the sky tribe has red hair implies they're groos's descendants. Like, maybe he went to the lanayru desert, started a little country, and then it split later with half of them going to the sky and becoming the sky people (because they know they can live in the sky) and the other staying and eventually becoming the gerudo.
Groose must've had some strong genes then. Passing hair color from one man to the entirety of not one, but two nations is not that easy, except magic was involved or whatever.
Also, this implies that Ganondorf, /the/ Ganondorf, is a distant relative of Groose of all people, which is frankly hilarious.
Loving the content man 💙
This is all so fascinating, great video. But mostly, thank you for finally letting me know how to pronounce Oocca.
They pronounced it awfully wrong
The occo could be evolved loftwings since they went back to the sky in skyward sword
For a “city” it’s...basically the ruins of a powerplant or warehouse. There’s no dwellings or signs of horticulture for these chicken hybrids to use in what’s essentially a sterile, industrial ruin (and the oocca inside are supposedly fairly sheltered from the dragon roosting in one of the highest spires)
A devolution would explain how NOTHING is scaled for the oocca. (Also who says they can’t be engineers still? Teleportation magic and telekinesis to steal the dominion rod from Link are literally childsplay for them. Not to mention sticking to walls and ceilings. Even if you don’t have hands, you can still manipulate things with telekinesis, and bird feet are pretty dexterous (although a lack of a beak is a disadvantage).
But. Where are the signs of actual CITY Life as the oocca adapt to an environment too large for them. Why is the place literally falling apart when they’re shown to still be magical.
...it’s beyond disappointing how Sterile this location is while being dubbed “city”. Especially with how lived in places like Snowpeak Keep and Hyrule Castle (SORTA) are...associated with the Royal Family or Military or no.
So...even if the level Link explores is nothing more than the final remains of a power plant, there still should’ve been signs of people living there. (Oocca wandering around in convenient rooms doesn’t cut it.)
i’ve been waiting so long for this 😩
I love when NBC and Zeltik work together. DO IT MORE OFTEN!
It could be that the interlopers were members of the wind tribe/sky people (assuming they are one and the same), who wanted the power of the Triforce and subsequently became the first twili by being banished to the twilight realm.
Evidence: both the wind tribe and the twili have red red hair and are stated as possessing advanced magic, but the sky people are stated as also having advanced tech, it could be that by being banished to the twilight realm they lost their tech and regressed in that area of expertise and maybe focused solely on magic or something like that, but the twili do seem to have advanced tech but nowhere near the same level as the sky people
so yeah I just thought that I should put this idea out there since I feel like it would make sense!
or... am I just crazy? please let me know!!!
Wait, the Occo didn't have any thing to do with hyrule, it's clear from skyward sword that the first Zelda and her family were the once who created hyrule
Well, I personally interpreted it as confirming that the Ooccoo are what were once known as Skyloftians.
If I place myself in the shoes of the creative team (and perhaps there's evidence out there that might deconfirm my suspicions) I would imagine that the City in the Sky area struck such a chord with the team that they wanted to make the next Zelda focused on a Sky world as the area of traversal. With elements of Twilight Princess's lore still being fresh in their minds, I would guess that they took some of the lore crafted about the Ooccoo and carried it over to their next big project to retroactively expand Zelda's lore in Skyward Sword.
I know this seems controversial, but I do think Nintendo quietly wrote the lore intending that the Skyloftians' bonds with their loftwings eventually grew into one of a s**ual nature, and their genetics crossed together to form the Ooccoo people. Since the Ooccoo formed their own language that's vastly different from the Hylian spoken on the ground, my guess is that over time the kingdom of Hyrule felt a strong disconnect between the sky people, who appear to be abominations in their eyes, and new leadership stepped in rethinking the traditions of old. They then decided to cut ties with these man-bird creatures believing that such stories were of 'legend' and fantasy without any basis in reality, and lived on as if the lore of sky people being closest to the goddesses was nothing more than a children's fairy tale.
That's at least something along the lines regarding how I'd write it, but there may be info out there that deconfirms my suspicions. One thing I should note is that Nintendo featured a book in a Pokemon game that said humans and their pokemons once exchanged such taboo relations with one another eras ago, so it wouldn't be the first time Nintendo featured bestiality-like content in their games' lore.
I really do enjoy these videos 👌🏼🙌🏻🙌🏻😎
I love the longer videos!! I prefere them over short ones 💪🏻❤