New Yamaha Tenere 700 Honest Review
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This is the new for 2023 Yamaha Tenere 700 that competes with Aprilia Tuareg and Ducati DesertX along with other mid-size adventure motorcycles like Suzuki V-Strom 800DE, Triumph Tiger 900, Ducati Multistrada V2, BMW F850GS, KTM 890 Adventure, Honda XL750 Transalp, Husqvarna Norden 901 and even a Moto Guzzi V85TT. In this honest review video I'm going through my experiences from riding a Yamaha Tenere 700 that has been refreshed for 2023 (check the new dashboard). I'm also explaining why I can't ride this motorcycle and in fact you should not either unless you use it in one specific set of conditions (still for a vast minority of riders).
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Thanks for the review mate. I actually did ask many times to feature the Tenere. Then again, as mentioned already by some, the Teneres attract a particular rider. I for instance came from a fully specced Tracer 9gt and an R1200GSA to the Tenere a year ago. When in the market, i was to choose between a KTM 890 adv R which was even 1k less to buy than the Tenere, but opted for my Tenere WR. 16000 kms and many travels later i have zero regrets. I am a better rider, focussing on the essentials of biking and at the same time having epic fun. Motorways, autobahns, A/B/D roads, gravel and single track - done it all in the last 2 weeks travelling to Latvia and back and had the best time of my 15 yrs motorcycling ever on my Tenere. Dont need traction control, riding modes or electronic suspension. Dont miss it, dont want it. wouldnt mind if it came with the bike, but wouldnt stress about it. All i need is my right wrist, 2 full tanks of fuel that would get me 550 kms between fill ups, and a good night sleep knowing that my trusty adventure bike (unlike the competition) will definitely start in the morning for another riding day.
Spoken like a true ADV rider, if it had come with all the electronic aids I may not have bought mine and gone for a DR650 or KLR 650 instead. I love the stripped back raw nature of the T7 just pure riding enjoyment not programming a computer to ride it for you. I think the T7 will always be sought after by more experienced riders that have a feel for a bike. Let the noobies ride the computers. I will agree the suspension could be better be apart from that it's the perfect bike for me.
I’m considering a tracer 9gt. What made you sell yours? Pros and cons on the bike? Thanks
@@FalconMe i loved my first tracer 9gt. I sold it for the Tenere purely for the offroad capability. The tracer is a purely road bike for munching quick miles. Great for everything but offroad for obvious reasons.
I do love my Tenere too! It’s a solo do it all bike.
I was hoping very much that Yamaha would release a Tenere 9. They haven’t so far. So i went ahead and actually ordered a brand new tracer 9GT+. I just couldn’t live without it. Now i have the best of both worlds.
I raced MX from age 9 to 16... I had no taction control. Guys having money - buy BMWs. T7 is for riders.
Some "riders" also like to go 400 miles in a day on highways. Why try to disparage some "riders" who like the road and don't feel like getting killed by non"riders" darting out or oil slicked initial rainfall or wet leaves on their trip? You "real rider" you......
@@ducksoff7236the situations you’re describing are assisted by ABS, not traction control.
The T7 has ABS.
Traction control does nothing other than stop the rear wheel from spinning under hard throttle - something that is extremely easy to manage manually with clutch and throttle discipline, especially on a 70hp adventure bike.
TC is awesome on 150hp bikes that will break the rear wheel loose at 70mph, but it’s all but useless on a bike like the T7.
@@destin-danser Oh....ok. I'll tell that to my bike next time I hit wet leaves on a corner and the traction control kicks in while I'm at 25mph keeping me upright and able to pull away from the approaching car. Hmmm? Didn't need the ABS in that scenario. Weird....
@@ducksoff7236 if you don’t have the throttle discipline to come out of a slick corner without losing the rear end, you have no business being on a bike. There is absolutely zero reason to be on the throttle in a wet corner until you’ve got the bike stood back up and pointed where you want to go, so if you’re riding properly, then you traction control absolutely isn’t necessary.
I’ve been riding thousands of miles per year in all weather conditions for almost 20 years, including multiple 1000+ mile days in the pouring rain and even a few snowy days. I’ve crashed twice due to rider error when I was inexperienced, and I’m more than willing to admit when I screw up.
I’ve never owned a bike with traction control, and I’ve never come even remotely close to losing the back end because my rear tire broke loose under acceleration.
If you’re riding at a pace on the street where traction control saves you from crashing on a 70hp bike, then you were 100% riding too fast for the conditions and likely would have crashed anyway. The vast, vast majority of crashes on slick corners happen on braking/entry, not on acceleration/exit.
Maybe you should take some lessons riding properly? You sound a bit snowflakey by making your safety somebody else's responsibility. You got on the bike, you knew the risks, you deal with it! Wet leaves, give us all a break. Laughable.
I like this review and respect your opinion on the t7. I have owned my t7 for a while now, and it certainly has its shortcomings, some of which can be addressed with aftermarket parts. The desire for tc has never crossed my mind in any pavement, gravel or dirt situation. The idea behind the t7 was simplicity and cost savings in an ever increasing market of huge "adv" bikes loaded with electronics. I much prefer the cable clutch and cable throttle. I would also be satisfied with no abs. In fact, if it had drive by wire, I would much prefer having cruise control over tc. I'll admit the newer style tft display looks pretty good. The toureg checks many boxes and fixes some shortcomings of the t7, but questionable reliability and poor dealer network here in the states is a non starter for me.
This feels like a push back hot take tbh. The bike has been very successful. I think it's less about bike issues and more about rider ability. You'd love a GS by the sound of it. Nothing wrong with that but your negative points are literally alot of points of positivity for most others.
The fact that the T7 is missing all of the electronic controles is the reason I am inclined to buy it. I understand that for some people they are a helpful addition, but not for all, and I am one of them. I have been riding for over 30 years now, so I guess I am an expert. So what electronics do for you I can generally do on my own, and generally better, ABS included.
So the T7 is not only perfect, but as a matter of fact the only possible choiche for one like me. Very grateful that there is at least one bike made this way...
It just doesn't have traction control out of things that may matter. The basic rest is there like in others in the segment. Some motorcycles' entry trims are missing electronic gadgets so this may be a way to go too if this is the direction that you value.
hear hear. i got rid of my Tracer 9GT and an R1200GSA (oil cooled) and i have the Tenere WR for the past year. 10000 miles (just came back from a trip to Latvia and back 5200km) in all weather, all road conditions from Autobahns in Germany to single trails in Poland and baltics, never missed a beat and put a smile on my face every time i switched it on.
if you have a bike with more than 100HP , you will need to have tractioncontrol and all the whistles. For the T7 not really needed, the super smooth engine and the only 70HP makes it easy to control. And 70HP is enough if you go offroad and that is what this bike was build for.
Agree, it's a very controllable bike without all the electronics, I want the raw thrill of riding an old school motorbike not programming a computer to ride it for me, I recently hired a KTM890 and by the time they showed me a video on how to use the riding modes etc I was getting frustrated and just wanted to get riding. Was great to get back on my T7, hit the start button and go.
@@ruedigerfriebel8454 I have owned and own bikes over 150rwhp (one was closer to 200hp - a ZZR1400) and the need for traction control is nonexistent as long as you are aware of the kind of surface you ride on.
Never had a use for TC even in snow and icy conditions, on a very tall and powerful bike - like my 990 Adventure with 113hp with its R map. In fact I rode that bike two-up for 350kms on a snowy day while only 4X4s and snow plowing vehicles where on the road. Never slipped once and that with street-oriented Trail Attacks (excellent tires for the street).
Is it just me or did this guy list everything that’s great about the bike as a negative?😂
I think it's you and currently two more people.
Thsnk you your one if my favorite channels
Thanks and I'm glad to hear that. all the best!
The lack of electronics is the exact reason I went for a t7 it’s my first motorcycle aswell but I like how it keeps me on my toes on the roads. I find the foot pegs to be the opposite to yourself as I think they are too low they are always catching in the ruts and with the rally seat it is higher than the standard which give your legs a bit more relief. The seat and suspension really are terrible though 😂 that I agree on, there are a lot of bits that need tweaking from the factory.. Good review though
Thanks for sharing all the insights!
great review. I totally agree with your analysis.
I hope it's as helpful as possible.
Great review. You finally made some important points that I have not seen mentioned on any other review; like the tank cap, the suspension being so hard, and shifting problem.
This shifting problem of going into neutral between 1 and 2 is a common problem with the Mt-09 and Tracer 9 GT as well. This has been addressed in the latest Tracer 9 GT and hopefully will trickle down to other models as well.
For those who are living with this shifter problem, the solution is to change the angle of the shifter to better suit your foot position (longer legs require a lower angle). Unfortunately adequate lower angle is not achievable due to the design and size constraints of the lever placement. My solution which has worked enormously well for me; I removed the shifter lever, had it cut, then extended by 1/2", then rewelded back together at a 25° lower angle. Although it took me a year to come up with, this has been a life safer and made me love the quick shifter as it is now effortless and I get excellent positive gear engagement every time.
Thanks for sharing the tips on how to enhance the work of a gear lever! I hope Yamaha takes that into consideration as well when updating the model. The fuel cap is something indeed! I truly wonder about the reasons of choosing to go with this design. Cheers!
@@VToldsMotoShow The illogical design of the fuel cap on the Tenere 700, the poor shifter ...on the MT-09; the flimsy front turn signals, the dimmer than a medieval lantern headlight, and the paint on the rims which peel off if you stare it them long enough...I am beginning to think Yamaha has a vindictive mother-in-law who likes to interfere 🤔
I am considering to go into the adventure biking hobby and I checked out a bunch of bikes from hondas to ktms etc etc. I realize that this bike aint that beginner friendly at all esspecially for a solo dude like me but none the less, everything about the bike I absolutely love and I will get it once I get some experience with the honda crf300l. Its like preparations for taming the beast 💪 Nice review I love it.
You may want to check out Aprilia Tuareg 660 too. That one has some advantages that this one doesn't. Also has some weaknesses that aren't here in the Tenere though. All the best!
Perfect decision. the crf300 is a great bike to start offroading and then move your way up.
Nah mate , stick with the T700 , the Aprillia has a shit load more problems than the Yamaha .. just dial up Common Tuareg 660 problems.
Reason for me to buy the T7 World Raid. You glide over rough roads with the different suspension, no annoying tank cap, huge range.
I don't know about that suspension but I'd be suspicious for now. Hopefully it is as you describe it. I'm likely too short to try myself.
550km per tank(s) on my WR. 180 kph top speed with luggage on autobahn. 16000 km travelling around Europe stress and worry free. Best bike ever for me.
@@nemerkha the problem with the WR is its price which is bringing it in AT territory. A bike with roughly the same weight (in standard form) but a much more powerful engine and about the same suspension (in newer models). It's a stunning bike otherwise and I would consider it if it wasn't for the bench-like feel at the front of the rider with those huge tanks (which are also hitting my long legs).
super review, dzieki.👍
My pleasure, najlepszego!
That's why Tenere is so popular. There is not much electronics on it and it should continue to be that way. People buy it because they want to ride the motorcycle and not the other way around. I went from a 1250 GSA with everything on, to Tenere with nothing more than ABS. My personal opinion now is that I have a lot more fun on two wheels now. The 1250 GSA is a great motorcycle but boring. The same with cars. Some are good but boring to drive. I had that feeling at the BMW GSA.
Hi, bro nice video, if you can add one bike in your arsenal of videos, and sure if you will have the ability to get Aprilia 660 Tuareg. My opinion is that the Aprilia bike is very underestimated by the market and media but not by riders :) all best.
Thanks. I’m glad to see your comment as there are some very special things to be said about the Tuareg indeed. In 1,5 weeks my review of it will be online. Cheers!
I own a 2009 first gen Vstrom 1000 with two brothers pipe and power commander(like you had) that bike is so much more fun on the road but my black T7 is much more capable on gravel and trails 🍻🍻
I may switch it in the future for something more off-road capable(meaning lighter weight)
I think you are a bit harsh judging this legendary machine but your honesty is much appreciated 👍
Oh yes, I've got great memories with the 1000 but Two Brothers exhaust makes it to me the best-sounding motorcycle on Earth - absolutely amazing. T7 on gravel or any other offroad spots will be fine with no traction control. The lack of this on such a modern bike is my biggest fear. Cheers!
@@VToldsMotoShow Traction control is not really for offroad use its for not powersliding out of control on wet/slippery pavement
74 hp offroad is just what the ‘doctor ordered’ 😁
Look at the Desert-X offroad mode its 75 HP
‘Gravel mode’ on the new bikes is using traction control because it takes into account new riders will use an incorrect amount of throttle and might get hurt… it is very helpfull in such situations 😅😝😅
Tenere 700 is not a dirt bike and it's also intended for road use ;)
@@VToldsMotoShow he did not say that, he nailed you well hahaha
@@VToldsMotoShow if the Tuareg was a Yamaha I would not hesitate one second.
It has everything one would need 🍻🍻
Thank you for your review. I need to point out that T7 is a different animal than street bikes that you may consider to buy. It seems to me that for your need you will be better on Honda CB 500cc for example where you could occasionally use it off-road around Warsaw. Let's face it- you can't have a proper testing around place you live. Tenere is for more harder off-road for example Bieszczady or Beskidy trails where you wouldn't use ABS and you would consider this as a pain in the ass feature. T7 is adventure bike with simplicity and off-road performance in mind. Also is you ride hard enduro or Trials your skill level will allow you to enjoy this bike to its fullness. Please watch Pol Tarres on T7 or Tony Boy on Africa Twin and you will understand where I am coming from. Overall good job but as my father said: the point of view depends from the position we are sitting on. In this instance- your needs and expectations from the bike are not met in the city. All the best
Finally mid class on list. Great
Yes, and there are others ready to follow. All the best!
Hello! I wanted to know since you have tried the two bikes, both KTM 890 adventure and the Yamaha Tenere 700, which one do you think more 50/50 for both travel and off-road use, which one you feel more comfortable to wear, better in the countryside, to travel two people, etc.
None for 2 people, T7 for reliability, KTM for the fun factor.
I'm a big fan of the KTM 890 Adventure so obviously it would be my pick for any riding conditions. About the offroad use? It would be painful with such bikes and since I believe that it's not the best environment to ride them in, I'm not sure I'm even able to judge that. In terms of onroad use, I'd definitely go with the KTM no questions asked. Unless you live in a hot place and would ride slower as then it might burn your legs during every ride since it gets so hot.
I am riding my new Tenere to Sturgis this year. 800 miles of highway one way
I am with you on the traction control. I really want it on the frequently slick streets where I live.... lots of intermittent sand and gravel from when they sand for winter snow, ice, and frost, plus mossy spots in shady areas from all the rain. On dirt, I can take it or leave it, I know it is always slick on dirt.
Right, it's nowadays not a big deal to have it nor is it an expensive thing to skip entirely in the name of costs saving.
You shouldn't. It's like wanting to walk with crutches on a permanent basis. Instead, learn how to read the road ahead of you, in terms of traction, and moderate your throttle usage as necessary. If I can do it on a 200hp bike and no TC on mirror-like Greek asphalt in the summer, you can certainly do it on Western European surfaces with a 60 rwhp, 200kgs bike.
Thanks for the review. I was not much amazed by the motor, for offroad is fine, for road up to 130kmh is quite fine, but for overtaking cars it simply lacks power similar way as my single KTM 640 Adv and vibrations at high revs are similar to it as well. I don't mind that it is quite high motorcycle as I am used to have seat at 940mm with KTM, but as Tenere has quite basic low-cost suspension and by default it is quite soft and if you setup SAG correctly you have seat even higher (obviously), usually for riders around 100kg+equip you have to also change all 3 springs. All and all, it is good motorcycle, but unfortunately not for me
Damn good review i have the same opinion like you. This bike is shame for Yamaha and specially front end sucks> How manny years and they never fix this issue with the front end.
@VToldsMotoShow what do you think about Triumph Scrambler line? I mean the big boys: 1200 XE/XC. I'm interested in your opinion - how they compare to other bikes in an adventure lineup? I test drove a T7 and all you've mentioned in this review is 100% truth. I've ended up buying myself a big Scrambler. They've got the looks and sound :) highly capable engine plus the suspension travel (200-250mm) and all the riding aids and electronics on the other hand lacking wind protection and the heat management is a known issue. Greetings form WWA :)
Well, MK, considering circumstances, I'm in love with the big Scrambler ;). But seriously - I haven't ridden any of these so cannot tell. But the big one is on my list for the next season when I'll have more relaxing time and will be done with my mission impossible in a form of creating a guide of all big and medium-sized adventure motorcycles in the market.
I only sat on a Scrambler 1200 as my close neighbor has one, and it felt interesting. I believe I remember that the seat seemed nice while there was a super small accessory windshield. The style literally feels different as the bike is sort of flat instead of having a taller front end. It may be just a visual thing but in the end of the day it also translates into riding experiences in some way.
I'm especially curious what the engine, suspension and the seat really are. All the best and perhaps see you on Teams ;)
hoping to see new Benelli 702 review soon. cheers
I'm not sure about this one.
Like you, my only crash was from spinning my rear tire on a curve on a 2013 GS. Partly my fault, probably. It would not have happened with traction control. Painful and expensive lesson.
Funny that it is a problem that cca 70 PS bike does not have TC, 15 years agor we had R1, CBRs with 160PS without TC and it was not a problem.....
It’s like saying that 200 years ago there was no electricity and today people complain when they don’t have an elevator in a 4-floor building. 15 years ago was 15 years ago and today is today.
@@VToldsMotoShow in this case in next 10years you/we will complain if motorcycle will make 1db of noise and will not run on electricity. Only good thing in my opinion on modern bikes is ABS and electronic suspension, everything else is compensation so that bad drivers can have 200 PS bike.
That’s possible yet with times we all change too. I myself am an example of someone who could easily have not been hurt in a bike crash had there been traction control. My bike didn’t have it at that time and it hurt. Today I only care about it and - as you mentioned - ABS. The rest is just “extra cool stuff”. Cheers!
Tubed tires are no go in moderns world. At least there should be option with tubeless rims.
So you want a t700 with electric screen traction control rider modes better suspension better seat slipper clutch tubeless tyres with pressure monitor better dash board am I missing anything
Yes, you’re missing keyless ignition and fuel cap.
Guys - if you dont plan to go offroad, simple, the T7 is not the bike for you. There are much better options available. I love my T7 very much, but mostly because it does make me enjoy offroading so much. But again, it isnt the bike to start offroading with, for that use a Honda CRF 300 or a Kove 450 or one of the older Dualsports. The standard T7 will have 220+ kg, when u have attached all stuff you want to the bike and that is y lot to lift and lifting the bike you will.
I have a Tracer 700 and a Tenere 700 and the Tenere is a lot more fun on road. Since I upgraded to Continental Road Attack 4 on the Tracer, I scrape foot pegs almost every corner. I will mount Conti Trail Attacks 3 on my Tenere and then it's foot peg scraping time too.
Tenere is a superb bike for me, even though I'm only 1,73m and 72kg. Suspension for my weight is perfect. I upgraded the exhaust only and added a tail tidy. That's it. A lot of people go overboard with the mods and in a few years, when only used ones are still available, I would dread to buy a used Tenere because most of these machines will be messed up with BS modifications that can't be undone. To say buy the Tenere only for off-road in my opinion is wrong. It is a great street bike too. I enjoy every ride with it. Also, let's be honest here, who is riding offroad all the time or has the skills to do it like Pol Tarres and Co? Maybe 0,01% of all buyers.
@@2lbsTrigrPull wow, great to hear that. I would thought the tracer is the more capable bike onroad. Nice to hear that T7 is great 4 that as well. I do 50/50, 4 me the T7 shines 4 this. Only offroad I would more recommend a Honda CRF300 or Kove 450.
i have a 2022 Tenere. Seems like the original electronics are better than the new screen. Foot pegs were the first upgrade i did. My biggest complaint is when offroad, there is a area of no return if you lean the bike over. Im at tippy toe height too and if it goes over too far your not getting it back. but what i got for the price point, and the more analog feel and reliability, im super happy. And i dont have any complaints for the seat and ive made 2 300-400 mile trips. I guess if i had a gripe would be the fuel capacity
But I really like the blue wheels...
Yeah, me too. But there are some available also for example on a Tracer 9 and they also look sick!
I dont understand me neither why Yamaha puts traction control system in their 250cc scooters but skips cp2 block bikes like Tracer, Tenere etc...
Especially that on a Tenere 700 one may actually get to places that are covered in slippery mud, sand or even snow and then traction control is the key. I won't accept "weight savings" or "it needs to be reliable" explanations here. There are motorcycles that weight the same and have it (Aprilia Tuareg), and others that all have traction control with it not causing them to become unreliable. Very strange.
@@VToldsMotoShow for there to be traction control, the cable throttle would have to go away and the throttle response would never be the same with ride by wire. Eletronic throttles are garbage, the traction control is embedded in your wrist, just pratice and get better at it
It sounds like a risky business practicing and getting better riding on spilled oil, wet surface or simply having a cold tire on cold pavement.
@@VToldsMotoShowthis bike is ideal drifting machine, it doesn’t need any TC
@@VToldsMotoShow Are you sure you should be on a motorbike? Its the risky business that makes us do it. Are you not just making your own safety somebody else's responsibility?
The Tenere is more oriented towards the purist rider who has adequate skills so as to NOT depend on TC, cornering ABS, wheelie control and the rest of complicated electronics that new riders think are helping, when in fact, they are preventing them to learn how to ride properly.
Yeah I’m glad I’m learning on a bike without any of that stuff… I can always get a bike with those features in the future if I end up wanting them.
Learning the hard way unless it ends up in an injury or death sounds badass indeed. Why have airbags in a car or insure a home if it makes us behave in a more risky way?
@@VToldsMotoShow I am not advocating "learning the hard way". Not at all! Hence the line: "rider who has adequate skills".
I love T7🇵🇭
It's got its fans indeed.
It is beautiful bike with too many shortcomings that make it pretty much niche bike with fairly limited usage on and off road. Nither good for touring or for hard off road. Maybe for those with exceptional skills. I thought it would be my next bike but, after riding demo on it, I decided it was not for me.
There certainly may be overall more capable onroad and offroad motorcycles out there.
Traction control sucks, as with all the new rider or driver aids in cars and motorcycles. Just making people less focused, less skilled...
Why are we all using vehicles instead of horses to move around, a microwave and a hob to warm up the food instead of a fire, and elevators instead of stairs? If the point was to get skilled and focused, we would record no progress as civilisation. If I can have a car save me and some one else as it brakes on its own, then I'm happy to have such backup. Same with traction control, especially that it's not intrusive in any way. Just ride in a way that doesn't make the bike activate its feature or switch it off to stay focused and skilled for whatever reason. But it may just save someone's life when that skill and focus turn out to be not enough at some point.
It's not even traction control, it's just a rear wheel spin limiter. It's dangerous, it causes the motorcycle to change speed, and trajectory when it activates in a turn. Makes a motorcycle very difficult to ride on dirt. Really, it's just another moder false sense of security. The lack of traction control and simplicity of the T7 is one of its strongest point. And yes, I turn of my traction control on my tiger 900...
@@AdvGuruexactly!
@@VToldsMotoShowwhilst this sounds sensible you are wrong in this case. Yes rider aids are great on my s1000rr they aren’t needed on my 70hp Tenere, the simplicity of this bike is one of the main attractions
All vehicles and society in general. Bikes and cars that suck and run like garbage in the name of safety and emissions.
You're comparing this basic model Tenere w/ bikes that cost $800-$1000 more . This review doesn't do the bike justice for what type of riding it's designed for.
It's a review, not a comparison video, so the mentioned examples are just for reference.
💅🏼 reviewer
The problem with a Yamaha bike is, and I own one, is that you need to upgrade 25+% of the components to make it more comfortable and usable. But you do have a very reliable bike in the end.
The World Raid version is great.
If the base is good enough to have a potential of becoming perfect, then well, it may be worth it.
We’ll pay more and get the raid mate , sounds like you stuffed up
My favourite all time bike is my old Tenere XTZ 660, with the superb 5 valve single engine, this is the bike i should have kept...
A fabulous supermoto machine after the fitting of dedicated tarmac tyres it made one of the most underestimated road bikes ever, especially country lanes and urban, so may giggles per mile.
I don't get this trendy fashion of parallel twin engines - these bikes need the character and low rev torque of a big single!
I believe that it's due to the search for more power and displacement, less vibration etc. Yet it was fun reading your comment! I myself like the brutality of the single with a lot of displacement.
Got that from my SRX600,
BUT my old ass needs more leg room ...T7
What is this beautiful city?
I've been riding in Warsaw, the capital of Poland.
The selection wheel is garbage must have been a Friday when the boys at Yamaha came up with that idea. .
I’m so confused now, MCN really praised the Tenere in their video but Vtold made some valid points. 😂 What do I get Transalp, Vstrom or Tenere? Roads in my country are so bad its pretty much offroad 80% of the time.
Nicely said about the roads, although that's a pity if they're that bad. V-Strom 800DE has slightly more suspension travel than the Transalp while turning in an absolutely fantastic way at medium speeds (like 20-80 km/h). But then at Transalp I can at least look while Suzuki has given birth to creature like from Alien vs Predator. Try them both and I feel that they're different enough that you'll immediately know which way to go.
You need the Tenere World Raid.
Ktm 790
Did you have plans to do touring bikes comparison? Goldwing, K1600, RT and company... there is lot of us who like to travel in far countries and to got there fast you need use motorways for 1000km a day and couple days, adventure bikes are not best option for long motorway rides on high speeds.
I like how you do this videos and will be very happy to see touring class comparison
Cheers from UK
I wouldn't understand the big touring motorcycles so reviewing them is not something that I should do. I appreciate you bringing it up but I've ridden R 1250 RT (here's my review of its latest generation: czcams.com/video/eHJSg6xV-fA/video.html) and also K 1600 GT and wouldn't really be into doing it again. The reason why I've done it with an RT is because I've been riding R 1150 RT quite long many years ago but now it wouldn't be my choice for the type of riding that I do. Cheers!
The main problem with this bike is price wise. Here in Hungary it cost only ~250€ less, than the new Suzuki 800de, with QS, riding aids, TC, more power, new motor, bigger fuel range, better suspension, lower center of gravity… etc. my question is, after all who is so dump to buy a Tenere? 😂
Reminds me of an old Land Rover Defender situation - 1000-year old engineering, bad and unsafe to drive but representing a certain "survival-mode-on" style that some were willing to pay for more than for something objectively better in pretty much all areas.
This is a very short sighted comment. If you mainly want to go offroad you are dumb to buy an 800DE, which is not even close to a Tenere 700 offroad. The T7 has a chassis and used anti-squat to get much better traction off road than an 800de ever could.
The way you’ll use the bike makes one better than the other. If you only drive on the road there are many bikes better than an 800de anyway, so who’s dumb enough to be a Suzuki 800de then?
@@PimRademacher If I go offroad often, I would prefer Aprilia Tuareg here in Europe, instead of Tenere. Much better, and capable bike. The only case when I would pick a Tenere if I want to go an “around the world tour” mainly offroad. It is because of the spare parts distribution which is an advantage for Yamaha. Anyway I am not a V-strom guy either, but for me, the Yamaha would be the last choice in this category.
@@cybilisation Yeah that makes sense. The Touareg seems like a nice bike! And I do actually go on long trips and you can’t beat that Japanese reliablilty in my opinion. Saying it’s more capable is not really true though. You can find many guys on youtube doing absolutely insane things on a Tenere. You have to replace the suspension though or buy a World Raid. Apparently that suspension is ready for a trip around the world.
You wish Yamaha would install traction control. I wish riders would learn how to handle their bike without one first, and then get something with it. If you rely on electronics all the time u tend to get yourself into situations that u normaly wouldnt be, and u tend to ride with a bit more foretought.
I’ve been there. It’s not worth spending days in the hospital and then weeks recovering from a crash. No one can control what we ride on and an oil spill or some sand when exiting a corner is deadly on a bike with no traction control. It’s a pass from me and the point stands. I seriously thought I was a master of control until I crashed this way. Don’t want that anymore.
Agree I can’t buy it for that reason - it needs traction control
I hope they'll add it as soon as... possible? We know having traction control in a motorcycle is possible. So... just soon.
It in no way needs traction control,it's a beautiful engine easily controlled by the throttle unless for a complete beginner, which this bike is not a bike for beginners even with TC. It is a quality bike built to a budget, you can't have every bell and whistle and still have an affordable top quality bike IMO.
You are over-critiquing… If you want to spend 25k for a bike with less fault (in your eyes) please do so… I ride the GSA and not only is the T7 more affordable (compared to similar ADV bikes in the mid-size), you can buy two T7’s for the price of the big GSA… the T7 will also pass you in the dirt due to the high weight of the Beemer… the T7 is a mid-size ADV bike… I have a list of my own but every bike has its faults… like my second bike (a Triumph) or my old bike (another Triumph and a Goldwing) for the economy oriented and mid-size engine AD rider the T7 is the sweet spot period…
For 25k US Dollars, I'd get a GSA, dirt bike and a mid-size adv for city riding. All a few years old. The rest I'd keep in my pocket.
@@VToldsMotoShow You just made my point… and I do appreciate your opinion
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It just doesn't make me want to go ride it. and for the price ill pass.
I'd still switch it on and rev it I guess.
Tenere is for certain riders. Stay on the street , off road its not for you (or take a off road course) to judge these kind of bikes . I know its the trend to mention and do a review about tenere .
And review was not useful cuz u go against all the principals of the bike thats why its a 50/50 bike . About traction control , its for lazy riders .Less technology more fun on bike !
Right, traction control is for lazy riders and car air bags are for cowards. Less technology - more fun on a bike, pay more to get less - a much better deal. I'll take an off-road course to stay on the streets. Everything makes sense now and I totally see how I'm going against all the principles and it's not useful.
@@VToldsMotoShow How is Airbag related to TC this i don't understand, if your saying about tech involved in a machine for safety features ok but you took it out of context. The bike is a off-road machine so for these you don't need anything. GG
@@oligertdosku6869 I’m with you on your comment. The Tenere 700 is a special bike, but only for those who know how and where to ride it. Rating a Tenere 700 6/10 is not okay in my eyes
100%. I got my Tenere after the Tracer9gt and r1200GSA. Never looked back!
@@nemerkha fantastic choice! I’m lucky enough to own a 1250 GS and a T7 and I appreciate both a lot! You have to appreciate the engineering and simplicity of the T7, but for long rides over asphalt the GS is a dream
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It's a bike. It's better than walking.
Stop complaining. Stop riding..😂
It is better than walking indeed.
That bike is simply not for you. That bike is a bush master and is to be used on road only to get to the off road, traction control is crap on off road and it's not needed. Seeing that bike in the city is like seeing a boat in the desert. Tenere has a 40 year history and has never been a road orientated bike.
Do you mean some kind of a dirt bike or a 200 kg monstrosity on two wheels from the video?
@@VToldsMotoShow get yourself an electric scooter
@draganpastrovic2157 idk about all that. This guy definitely comes off to prefer a 1250 GS that's under 300 pounds but, the T-7 is definitely road worthy. It might not crunch miles like a GS or road glide but it can handle it very well. His whole point for traction control is a bit silly as well because he acts like the bike is a powerful litre bike that'll buck you off with one wrist slip... The reason the T-7 was so successful was because of it's 50/50 approach with no bs features.
I wonder how people survived for years without traction control and other rider aids, the world has gone soft, skinny jeans are cutting off the blood flow
Some have not survived due to the lack of those aids. Not worth the risk in my opinion.
There is no way on earth you buy a road motorcycle in 2023 that doesn't have cruise control. Ofc if you are restrained by budget or just want the bare minimum electronics maybe, but other than that goin high-way without cc is simply not acceptable at this day and age.
It's an easy system to include but if there's ride-by-wire technology in a certain motorcycle. Then just riding around or mostly in the city, I can understand why some riders wouldn't necessarily care about it that much. Traveling - then it's definitely worth having.
Let's take Paris as example.For short range travel, in the city and outskirts most of the bikes are Yamaha Tracer.Excelent price, ergonomics and power ratio there. As soon as ppl start to commute for 15-20km or further on a daily basis we see a total domination of BMW GS. So ppl as soon as they hit the highway go for the advantages of protection, CC and power of a bigger bike and are willing to pay a premium price. Tenere kinda falls into the category of globe-trotters(who want the bare minimum) and ppl that do mild off-road.@@VToldsMotoShow
Brak jakiejś struktury tego materiału. Rozgadane rozciągnięte niespójne. Problemy z dźwiękiem. Za głośna muzyka miejscami za ciche i mało wyraźnie czytanie... Dużo do poprawy, ale potencjał jest. Powodzenia
Będę zatem uczył się nadawać strukturę, nie rozgadywać, nie rozciągać, spajać, usuwać problemy z dźwiękiem, ściszać muzykę i głośniej i wyraźniej czytać, dziękuję. Nie ma to jak trafić na polski komentarz :D
The last sentence says it all. It's quite typical for some nations to be focused on nagging from morning to evening. But that's just the way it is and it's fine. Thanks and have a great one!