Why I'm NOT Buying the 40v. Makita 40v vs 36v vs Corded.
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 14. 07. 2024
- In this video, I give some initial high-level thoughts on the new Makita 40v XGT track saw and how it compares to the Makita 36v track saw and the Makita corded track saw.
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8:47 Bluetooth Problems and Rant
16:34 Am I Going to Buy the 40v?
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Great video!
For my circumstances,
I was in the market for a track saw and was not already on the Makita 18v platform. I am pretty heavily invested the Milwaukee 18v/12v lines. This was certainly one of my biggest considerations, and had I already had as many Makita batteries as I have Milwaukee ones, I am likely saving a few bucks and getting the 36v.
I was also tired of waiting on the Milwaukee track saw, and was not sure it would be comparable to the Makita offerings plus me buying something else was a sure way for the Milwaukee one to be released. I also didn't want to invest in the Makita 18v platform if 40v was going to be the future. Taking the plunge into the Festool battery platform was not a real consideration either.
The 40v saw has an anti-kickback feature, a feature without a lot of info on at the moment. But the biggest difference between the previous Makita offerings and the Festool besides price was the riving knife and safety. So this was a big add for me in my thought process getting into the track saw game. Best case maybe that anti-kickback feature saves me or my sons an injury and some digits. Worst case it just provides some additional piece of mind.
I am assuming the reduced RPM is related to extending the battery runtime of the saw, and unclear whether the reduced rpms will impact perform for the sort of applications I intend to use the track saw.
You covered the big issue of the insanity associated with AWS bluetooth but I also have yet to really address my dust collection with a professional setup. I have to believe with time we are going to see some better 40v/other options on the market. Until then I can get by with my keychain remote.
Lastly and fortunately money is a secondary consideration with everything else being equal.
Tools and stuff tested them and the 40v cuts much faster than the 36v as it has more torque.
Hey William, please please update me on the route you take if/when you do! As I am in the exact same boat and couldnât have said it better. Would love to know what you chose.
William was the one who sent me the saw to review đ
As said tools and stuff did a comparison between the 36v and the 40v and the 40v had more torque also you sound like you're going the 40v route anyway but i wish i'd bought the 40v AWS extrator ( wasn't available till 4 months after i bought my 36v) which is more powerful than the 36v
I got the 40 volt, itâs very good
I have the Makita 36 volt track saw and I love it. I transitioned from the Triton corded track saw and the Makita is a lot lighter, quieter and I love the electronic brake. I am also Team Teal and being able to stick with my 18 volt platform solidified my decision to go with this saw over the 40 volt saw. Paying more for a slower saw didnât make sense to me either. On a side note, I had invested in several Triton tracks and they also work with the Makita saw (in addition to Festool and Dewalt). I have added one of your custom shroud covers as wellâŠfit great, works great!
Thank you, thank you. You have helped me make my decision. I am looking for a track saw to break down plywood at the big box store and the 18v will work well.
My .02 - I use the makita wired tracksaw plugged into a festool vacuum at work. Works great. Plugs into the vacuum, turns on when i start the saw. Love it. In a shop environment, the wire isn't the end of the world. On my own personal jobs/side jobs, I bought the 36V battery version of the saw. Since I dont have a festool vacuum and wasn't interested in the AWS model I went with that. I think if your mainly working in a shop, the wired/festool combo cant be beat for price comparisons. I work outside a lot as well so for me the 36V was a must, if im working indoors I plug it into any old vacuum and turn it off and on.
I'm a professional millwork installer and I love the 40V platform. I use the 8 1/4 " cordless mitre saw with the festool vacuum via bluetooth startup unit. I will be buying more XGT tools that are power hungry (uses 2 batteries). Will be retiring my 18 V track saw. Instead of auto on, one could just buy the festool remote which is what I do. By the way, I'm done with Festool as my vac remote broke inside after 4 months and the response was no warranty for accessories! Spread the word and screw them!
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I stay cordless with every tool purchase I can because I do work on job sites with no power and do not want to run the generator. I was always a Dewalt guy and never had a track saw before. Watching all the reviews I decided to purchase the makita xgt 40volt saw over a dewlat and absolutely love it! For me I wasn't invested in any other battery line yet so it made sense and now there are a few more 40volt tools I'm looking at. Dust collection automation is a big downfall for sure but I can live with turning the vacuum on and off by hand for now.
Great video by the way!
Thank you for sharing! Great perspective. You'll love the saw - and turning on the vacuum is easy
Nice videoïŒThese three saws are similar in cutting quality. Most of my friends use 18Vx2 models, because most of their tools are makita 18v series, and few of them use 40v series, so they are unwilling to re adapt batteries and chargers for 40v track saw alone.
Great video!
This is precisely why I love having both Festool dust extractor and track saw. Just works and in the end actually not more expensive than the Makita combo.
Thank you
Where are you located in the world that they are the same price ?
This video was very helpful. I don't have any Makita but I have in the past. I love the brand but am mostly a DeWalt guy. I have made a living with Makita in the past but at some point it just became harder to find at a price point I'm comfortable with. I am now making my living a different way and am a hobbyist so the DeWalt fits me better.
Of course the Makita track saw has become the gold standard (better value than Festool) and I have been trying to decide which one to go with. I was actually minutes away from pulling the trigger on the 40v largely because of the Bluetooth. The information you provided here has actually saved me a ton of money. I will be getting the corded version. I too work mostly in my shop/garage and have power available. Even outside the shop, I have not seen a hoseless vacuum so the addition of a power cord is not even an issue as I will run the cord along the vacuum hose. I will either get a dust collector that turns on with my saw or I can spend 40 or 50 bucks to get a remote start unit. This way I can buy more wood, or that 3M sander I have been eyeballing. Of course I will also order your dust port thingy.
I have also subscribed, shared, commented on and saved your video.
Thanks
Thank you! I agree that the corded makita is the standard. I still love it. I just wish the cord was longerâŠbutâŠthereâs a fix for that.
This is the 2nd video Iâve watched of yours and can see why lots of people like it. I m trying to decide which on but your video has certainly helped. I m thinking of staying to the corded version after your video I can justify the cost when Iâve only got a drill and impact in 18v makita. Did and was going to the new Bluetooth 40v but some very useful information in your video has kinda put me off. So keeping it simple and cheaper with the corded. Did look at festool but again comes down to the cost. Great video đđŒ
I picked up the 36v kit for $499, first time I wondered why I didnât buy it earlier. Itâs awesome.
Just got the 18x2 and its my first teal cordless but I plan to get more 18v Makita, like the palm router so it felt convenient to start with two 5ah batteries
The blade on the 40V cuts better at slower RPM, because you get more torque out of the motor. Also, hard lesson i learned being an owner of multiple 36v twin battery Makita tools. Makita has a safety built in monitor that ensures when one of the 2 (18v batteries over heat or drain to 20%) the tool shuts off, even if there is still plenty of power in the opposite battery, so you become slave to the lesser battery. The Makita 40V battery does more cuts, last so much more longer. The blue tooth is nice if you have a makita vac with AWS. I am not getting rid of my 36V but have 2 x 40V Makitaâs now the HS004 and the HS011 and big advantage is both these saws are already guide rail compatible, the only reason i donât have the SP001 plunge 40V is they are constantly out of stock in my market. Team teal is never cheap, but the buy once cry one applies.
Great stuff. Thank you.
Super helpful review. I'm considering my first track saw, to augment or replace an old but reliable corded circular saw (and home-made guide). I'm heavily invested in Makita 18V tools and batteries already, so came here to decide between a new 36v vs. a new 40v saw. However, after watching this I'm inclined to say neither. Maybe later, I'll grab a 36v when they go on deep discount. Your complaints are spot on, and the times I'd need battery power for such operations aren't all that many. Maybe I'll just get a track to use with the trim router.
Sometimes Amazon has open box 36v without batteries for a good deal
I have the double 18v cordless, have done a lot of projects and I'm really happy with it. One thing I really like is having the double 18v charger that came with my track saw, this lets me use the same batteries singly to power my other Makita tools! (only had to buy the "bare tools") Great review, and very honest! Thank you
Thank you George
@@wittworks I have a question, if you be neutral and had a choice and cost was not an issue which saw would you purchase, Mafell track or Mikita track and why?
Great question. Iâd have to use the mafell to really know. I tried to get my hands on one but have been unsuccessful. My understanding is they have more powerful motors and are for beefier applications, but not totally sure. So far I think makita is best. Iâve touched a Festool but not run it. Iâve heard they have the same power but the motors die after a few years.
@@wittworks I am so stuck on which one to purchase.
@@rickyperkins232 the mafell track seems to be better. check this one out. czcams.com/video/5kqui1b0SbU/video.html
Thanks for the video, was looking for this exact info. For me the corded version makes most sense because the whole idea for cordless tools is not to be tethered, but if I attach a dust collector to the tool Iâm more tethered than the power cord! The extra cost of cordless pays for my dust collection. I do want the safety of the electronic brake system so Iâm hoping thatâs available in the corded makita.
Brilliant video, very thorough. I've owned the 36v track saw for a couple of years and it is awesome! ripping and crosscutting 18mm (3/4") all day long. There isn't anything that would make me want to move over to the 40v system, just as you said in your video. Totally agree with your Bluetooth rant, I'm happy to switch my dust extractor on & off by hand each time. Thanks for confirming what I was already thinking, keep up the great videos.
Excellent review and a great perspective!
Thank you Dizzle
I have just purchased a corded Makita tracksaw with the 54" track, and I picked up a second 54" track and connector set. I decided to go corded as I will be using it in the shop. I will have a hose to the dust collector (shop vac), so i'm connected to that and I have put an auto-switch onto the shop vac. My next step is to tie-wrap the cord to the hose.
Hi thanks for your recommendation.
I found an offer in Amazon for the kit XPS01PTJ including the Boxing, the charger and a couple of 5Ah batteries. Not much price difference from the XPS6000J. The Amazon kit included a 55" Rail.
As I have all the boxes of my tools, having these boxes to store the tool + charger is great. I put all the tools on their boxes when not in use (sometimes đ).
In another video, you mentioned about a Kit from CENTEC to connect your Shop-Vac to the Makita. It happens that I have a Rigid Kit VT2534 (Car Detailing Kit, 1-1/4" hose) that I used to vacuum in my workshop. It is possible to connect it to other tools. As my Makita arrived yesterday, I was able to connect to the Makita dust port using a 1-1/4" to 1-1/4" rubber coupling (about $8 in a home store).
Think about this solution...
This is such a great video! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I had the corded Makita saw. Loved it. Went 2x 18V cordless for portability and to use the AWS with my Makita dust extractor. Recently bought into the 40V platform as the XGT mitre saws have a number of benefits over the LXTs, so now that I have a 40V battery and charger, I'm slightly tempted to go 40V track saw.
Benefits I see are: single battery, less bulky, and lower centre of gravity for beveled cuts.
Staying on a single battery platform can save cost and make things simpler. But adding another platform has benefits too, like freeing up batteries from the original platform, and opening up a whole new range of tools. That's the way I view the 40V Makita platform.
Thanks for sharing! Great thoughts! How do you like the dust extractor?
@@wittworks I run the Makita XCV25 (I think that's the US model number), 2x18V with built in AWS. It's no Festool, but for a battery powered option I think it works pretty well, especially on the track saw.
I rely rather heavily on the AWS, as I often forget to turn on the dust extractor. To date no issues with connectivity.
For my portable setup it's ideal.
Iâd go corded all the way. Some tools need batteries in my shop, but a track saw is not one of them. Great discussion, points, and a helpful review. Thanks Witt!
I have the 36v. I'm very happy with it and see no reason to change.
I'm actually currently looking into buying a track saw. I am leaning hard toward the Makita kine as they have a great reputation, at a reasonable price. I've debated whether to go cordless or corded. All of my drills are cordless (but Dewalt), I recently changed my weed eater, my blower, and my smaller chainsaw over to battery power. But I honestly think I will remain corded on the track saw. I plan to use it in my shop only, I have AC power readily available at all of my work stations and tables, and the prices for replacement batteries just don't make sense to me. So I will be getting a Makita corded saw soon.
Great choice!
Hello! Glad to see your opinion on this new guy. Got my 36v for around 270$ with bluetooth chip. Spent around 150$ to get the vacuum plug adapter. Can't say I regret it. But I find more comfortable to attach my miter saw's dust bag and sometimes clean it with my shop vac. I use it more when cutting granite tiles or big slabs. But most of the time I do fully cordless. I want this 40v (yet to be avaliable in my country) for much slimmer profile and less weight. Already got a bunc of tools with batteries. My main tools already 40v, waiting gardening ewuipment and track saw to arrive. I'm thinking of getting corded festool to be stationed permanently in my shop, but I'm afraid I wont get my rails work with both saws and having two sets is kinda awkward. For bluetooth my tools find vacuum without manual reconnection after battery change. I tried it on my 40v tools too, but with my old chips. You can have different chips, same model can go with different catalogue numbers. When I work with aws it connects fairly quick, I don't need to wait for pairing. Sometimes it fails but reconnects quickly same way.
The tracks work with both saws
@@AshHalls Indeed it does. But splinter guard would work only with one, almost impossible to get it work with both saws
Track works on all makita (and apparently Festool)
I just bought a Makita 40v track saw. First use will be cutting down a solid core door.
I was watching this video in the car park of the tool shop lol, couldnât bring myself to buy the Bluetooth adapter tho
Great video. I went with the Makita 36v saw (luckily they had the bluetooth version over here) even after the 40v came out and BEFORE owning any other Makita 18v tool for 2 reasons:
1. Price - the 40v line is really pricey, and more importantly,
2. Range - the 18v line remains to have the wider line of tools. The 40v has a lot of catching up to do.
Thanks bro! Your decision is interesting and it makes sense to me. Lots of hype around the 40v. Thank you for sharing! Iâd love to hear how the Bluetooth works for you and how you use it.
@@wittworks haha. I don't use the bluetooth. I don't have the heart to splurge for that 36v vac just yet.
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Thanks James!
I have the 36v saw but it's not the bluetooth capable version anyways. I didn't think I would even get into the XGT line but I now have both the rear handles, the band saw, and the sds plus hammer drill from auctions. I also have the 36v backpack hepa vac I am going to try out next with the saws! I have a feeling it will fill up fast.
Great video. Well done.
I am on the 18 Volt system I have over 10 various cordless tools, as much as I like the idea of the 40 Volt system I am not going to change.
I install a lot of new door slabs in old openings, the new slabs need to be trimmed to fit almost every time. The cordless 36v Makita has been a game changer for me, not having to deal with a cord on the long cuts is soooo satisfying. Battery life holds up very well, for the work I do it's precise enough. I highly recommend it. Thank you for your review. Too bad about the bluetooth, in this day and age should be flawless.
Good info! Thank you for sharing. Iâve trimmed 4 doors in my house with that saw!
I like the idea of cutting the sheets down in the carpark, but Iâve convinced myself to go corded. (Buying a kit tomorrow)
I DO already have a cordless circular saw, so the idea youâve given me is to take my two 55â tracks and cordless circular saw and use the back side of the tracks as a regular fenceâŠ
Great review, your speaking into my listening, I am after a Track Saw that will be predominantly work-shop orientated, it's the corded model for me! Same/more power & less weight & less $, it's an absolute NO Brainer!!! Thanks
I am also team teal. And very glad that you are calling Makita out on these compatibility issues. I know theyâre not the only brand doing this sort of thing, but they are doing a massive disservice to their otherwise loyal customers.
I also recently started buying other brands and just using adaptors to pair with my Makita batteries.
Now I only buy the best value/quality on a tool by tool basis. All other factors being the same, I opt for the Makita.
Thank you Chance!
It's actually amazingly shady that these Bluetooth capable tools don't talk to each other. The WHOLE POINT of Bluetooth is that it's universal. Apple airpods connect no problem with android phones. If Apple is doing better than you at walled garden products you know it's bad
Great video. I have a Festool Midi dust extractor and use the Bluetooth remote to turn my dust extractor when I use my cordless mitre or track saw. I would like you to do a video of the Milwaukee M18 and Makita XGT 40V track saws.
Love the battrie stuff . But mainly for up on roofs, on the ground ,still stuck on 110v .. no charging
Really interesting finds on the 40v saw. To have to repair it each time you take the battery off is just a horrible design flaw.
Great video! Considering a track saw, old fashion still using my circular saw and a jig( track). The battery saws are very convenient, however buying multiple batteriesđą. The auto brake is why I am leaning to the 36 volt.
Thank you! I still love my corded, but sometimes wish I had the battery because it would save me 30 sec of finding a cord...the 36v is a good saw
Great video dude! I have the Makita 36v 2x battery powered track saw and I donât think Iâd upgrade for 4 extra volts if Iâm honest either, my current one does the job well enough for me, so I donât see the need to upgrade, unless Makita decided send me one out of course đđ
Thank you! Totally agree.
I read many of the comments, but not all of them, so not sure anyone mentioned this. The 36v and 40v are both 36v. The 40v, Makita decided to go with "max" power, like many of the 18v that call their tools 20v max or similar. The 18v vs 20v, or the 36v vs 40v; both are nominal voltage to peak voltage. (same with anything 12v is actually 10.8, and 60v is really 56v)
Great comparison of the three Makita tracksaw options. I own both the corded and the 36v cordless versions. Personally, I'm happy with both, and will not be moving up to the 40v platform.
Which one you go for really depends, as you say, on what your normal work environment is.
Outdoors, I'm happy to use the 36v with a dust bag. Indoors, however, I always use extraction. That being the case, there really isn't much benefit to going cordless, as you are already tethered to an extraction hose.
Added to that, there is also the cost consideration. Corded tools are powerful and reasonably priced compared to their cordless counterparts.
So, unless you are in construction, and working onsite where you might not have access to regular mains power, I'd say, save your money and go corded.
Thank you! I feel the same way.
Fantastic video. I wonder if anyone has done a comparison of power between the track saws?
Here in March 2023, I went with the 2x 18V myself and added a Powertec dual 55" track system (that came with a nice bag) and pair of Acofuns clamps.
All in the cost was $725. I debated the 40V version, but the extra cost and fact that the batteries do not work with a few other Makita cordless tools was the deal breaker. The corded version was a no-go, as I need this thing to be portable, mostly to break down sheet goods in my garage before taking them down to the basement shop table saw. I got sick of using my simple aluminum straight edge and 6-1/2" Dewalt 20V to do this. I rarely got straight cuts, as the saw would drift because of the straight edge. The Dewalt is fine, but it is a basic framing saw and not really meant for this task.
Depends on how you go at it.
As a carpenter my tools work to pay for their replacements. Just a reality. That being said my makita sp6000 paid for itself in 2 jobs and then bought its festool hkc cousin and its makita 36v upgrade. These make my life easier, and make me money by making me more efficient.
My back thanks me every time I do not have to manhandle a Ÿ" sheet of mdf onto a table saw to break things down. Also making factory finish edges every cut, thats dead nuts straight is an epic bonus.
Thatâs it! Itâs fun having our business so our toys get us an roi!
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The crazy part is some clients/customers don't understand how much I have invested in tools. Literally tens of thousands. It is only when DIY'rs are forced to tool up that they begin to understand the true cost of being "handy".
yep!
same here, I use my track saw to take smaller pieces of MDF since I work alone.
Iâm going to buy the corded kit tomorrow . (Comes with two 140mm tracks, two joiners, carry bag and two hold down clamps)
All my work is in the workshop and if Iâve gotta run a dust hose to the saw, then running a cable makes no difference.
Hooked up to an auto start shop vac with a dust deputy. Iâll be fine.
Thank you ! you said everything I wanted to say !!!
Love my 18volt track saw. No desire for the 40volt even if I did not have either one. Still the only frustrating thing is trimming the rubber on my single 55â guide rail and not being able to trim the first and last 3-4â without the saw coming off the track. Hope more people realize the importance of that step if you truly want straight cuts along with the fact that you need to remove as much play from saw in track with the 2 tensioning knobs and make sure the blade is square to the bottom plate of saw since mine was off by a noticeable amount.
Thank you James for sharing! I have one track and have the same issue. Been thinking about getting the powertec pairâŠ
DUDE. I literally bought a 36V tracksaw same as you, and when i went to do a demo cut to get rid of excess rubber the same thing happened! I was pissed! Now I have to spend time lining up the end of the saw if it doesn't overhang. FOr most jobs its fine, since you will just adjust further up, but if you need every inch then its really a piss off and overlooked part of the set up. I was already considering buying 2 new strips of rubber for the 2 55:" tracks. Like you said only the first 3/4" of the rubber is more of less useless.. its not the end of the world but is a bit annoying when things dont line up the same.
I attached another rail and could trim the last bit.
Iâm in the same boat, and on top of that, when connecting another track, I noticed the guide rail width is slightly different. Enough difference that when I tune the saw for one track and cross the connection to the new track, my guide binds. Which of course forces you to loosen the saw guide slightly and sacrifice a small amount of accuracy, which then cascades to a less accurate splinter guard. It seems the only true solution is to buy the big trackâŠ
Still have my corded tracksaw after 5 years, and probably will continue to use it for another year or two, might get a cordless version in the future, but for now im just good with the corded, works perfectly with a festool dust extractor
I find this video really funny. I went through the exact same thing a few years ago when I started buying Makita. Most of my tools are AWS ready, but I've never got the dust extractor because I consider it really expensive and the whole adapter/chip thing is clearly a cash grab.
I finally opted for a set of RF enabled plugs that I control with a remote in my apron. A bit inconvenient, but it works for me and is (almost) the next best thing
CASH GRAB. Exactly what it is. Truly disappointed.
Remote start for the vacuum is a great alternative. Thanks for sharing, when I get dust extraction for myself I will be going this way. Cheers!
Only :50 seconds in⊠I love this channel!!
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you don't need to redo the pairing procedure, but you need to press the button on the transmitter to turn it on (you'll know because the blue light will blink). also the makita vc4210 +wut02 is less expensive than a similar-sized dust extractor from festool that has auto filter clean.
I bought a Shop Fox track saw a few years back. Saw and two 55" tracks together were $280. There were a few simple mods to improve dust collection on it, and it's been very effective and an amazing value. I'd love to get something cordless, but it's hard to justify spending almost as much as i did on my table saw when it seems every brand has various cons.
anything you connect dust collection to stops being cordless, so I don't see a point in a cordless tracksaw with dust collection.
@@BType13X2 One less cord obviously but great point. Had the same dilemma when sizing up some cordless compact router options while still wanting dust collection to be attached.
I think if you have a Home Automation hub you could write a routine that turns on the vac when the saw turns on.
I put a 20 euro wireless receiver inside a Makita vacuum and strapped the remote to the end off the dust hose. I press the remote and the dust collector turns on. works great with my Makita 36v tracksaw
that's a great MakHack! Thank you for sharing
I have 36v miter saw,cic saw and track saw and every other makita. I work on site but I must say with or without power the battery saws are so much more efficient. Luckily I've been buying batteries for years so I have a dozen or so.
I have the 40v Makita saw and had the cordless previously. I like the no cord concept but you better have several 4Ah batteries if your going to use the 40v for extended cuts. The 4Ah batteries are good for maybe 20-30 mins of runtime. I think the new 8Ah batteries is what I'll use going forward.
I have the Mafell corded track saw itâs very good, the makita XGT tools look good but to expensive and the cost of the batteries, especially as you said you need several batteries, it gets very expensive.
It's cordless but tethered to a hose on the back. đ€Ł
@@ipick4fun27 With no power cord to get tangled around your feet when cutting many boards or unplugging when plugged into my dust collector's power switch. Big difference then when I had the corded Makita.
I failed. What a wonderful mullet observation!
@@bobbray9666 When I get rid of my rainbow color batteries, yellow wins me over due to quality and cost. Also my friend is yellow as well so it's easy to share tools. I don't mind the Mikita corded track saw. That's the only way for me to mix color.
Thatâs true on the blade mine is about 5years old still cuts like new donât use it daily but still going strong
36v and 40v are both the same voltage; the are just marketed as nominal and max voltage respectively -- most likely to avoid confusion. I would go with the 40v as I would rather use a single battery than using two batteries.
Thank you for sharing. The two 18v is bulky
When faced with replacing everything for a little extra bulk for a saw you use on a track I'm sticking with 18v. Consider this, What's more bulky, a 40v impact or an 18v?
@@eharding4725 They are basically the same size; the only different is that LTX (18v) has the option for a 2AH battery (5 cells) that is smaller (10 cells is min for 40v). The 3,5,6AH 18v batteries are only slightly smaller than the 2.5AH 40v (basically same size). I would recommend going with the 40v system without doubt; I have both systems and the 40v system is the best of two worlds; same size as LTX system but also with larger and more powerful tools. The future is XGT.
As one already who already has the 18v saw, the only meaningful benefit of the 40v to me is that it is narrower. When using the 18v with an MFT table, the lower battery cannot clear tall benchdogs if you are using them as a backstop for your track.
Great insight. I agree that the narrower footprint is nice. But, at what price!!?!?
@@wittworks They will get cheaper eventually. Note that the cells in the batteries are about twice as expensive, so we already hit rock bottom. The tools may become cheaper one day.
Hi there. I was wondering if you could do a video on how to square the blade, and make adjustments to the Makita Track saw. I found the manual confusing and it was an awkward procedure. There also seems to be an extra set screw in the base that the manual neglects. It appears to be front and aft bevel angle stops and the manual just addresses one of them. A procedure for how to square it up and also to adjust (or check) that and the other bits (depth, 45, whatever) would be awesome!
great message. genuine
Thank you
I have a shop and mostly use corded tools while in the shop except for drilling and screwing.
The majority of our cordless tools are Milwaukee and we have 60 +-of them I would gues, but more and more manufactures are making new tools and Milwaukee are just not keeping pace with others. How long have they been saying there coming out with a tracksaw?
I just got tired of waiting and when I saw the 40v l Makita I immediately ordered a kit and waited for it to someday be in stock which we just got a few days ago. I have a Stribig A/V panel saw in the shop so the track saw will mostly be for installation use. I most definitely will be adding to the 40v line, and there are many new tools I want if or when they ever become available here.
The new hand planer and air blower I am really impressed seeing them and may even order them from Asia just to get them, now.
Ive had many Makita corded tools over the years and still even have the first miter saw I ever bought , the 14" cast iron saw that weighs a ton. Its been repaired many times, mostly the brake, but still works well, and its around 40 years old now I would guess.
Very few tools have lasted like it has although when the aluminum 15" Hitachi came out we did switch to it for installation mainly because it was so much lighter, but I've gone through a few of them because there quality was not as good as the Makita.
I'm ordering 3 if the CMT 165mm blades, thats a good price, 3 of them for the pricd on 1 comparable Makita blade. Im NOT a fan of thin rim blades though because they distort so easily so will try the CMT.
Thatâs great! Taylor tools is getting some other tooth counts in the 165mm range soon. Thank you for sharing!
Longer comment incoming, sorry for the paragraph.
Love your channel. Happened to find your channel after I just happened to buy your dust cap for my wen 12amp track saw. Didn't even know who you were, but I liked your sticker and put it on my drill press. Also, dust cap works well, thanks, and thanks for getting it out quickly. I wanted to share one reason why cordless track saws could be a good idea, and possibly a video idea I haven't seen anyone else do. I have a mid-size SUV. Getting plywood home is a problem. I'm a tall guy so I can get it on my roof rack, I just kinda feel like I'm gonna die after getting a few sheets up there and ratchet strapped down, and just a hard pass on waiting for the panel saw guy at HD to eventually come help me and angrily make cuts on my way too expensive plywood. Enter my solution. I have expandable bora centipede work stand, 2500 watt power inverter, and a track saw. And yes, I break down the sheets in the parking lot. Yes, I wish I had a truck, or a trailer. And eventually will have a trailer. But right now, trying to grow my hobby/side hustle, I have to make do. And it just seems like an interesting video idea I haven't seen anyone else mention, "hey, use your track saw to get sheet goods home, and here let me show you what that looks like to do it." And since I haven't done an exhaustive search on every single channel, maybe this already exists out there.
Anyways, thanks for your content. Thanks for the high production quality.
1) Iâve been chewing on this idea!! I have a bora and have thought about doing it in the parking lot and videoing peoples looks!
2) at angry panel saw guy. Come on!
3) we named our last son Luke. (Lucas) BRINGER OF LIGHT!
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Great video! I thought about a batterie version. But no way for the 40V, it's too expensive. And the 36V? Finally I thought, if the saw is anyway "connected" (don't forget the dust extraction tube), the power cable doesn't matter. So I bought the corded version, which is a big cost saver.
You are absolutely correct on being piss at Makita for not including the bluetooth transmitter with the saw, but the 18v model has, like you pointed out, two different versions, one with AWS and one without, the overall majority of my cordless are Makita, and the model without AWS would work perfectly when using a dust collector. I use a Wireless Remote Control Outdoor Electrical Outlet Switch with my dust collector or vacuum and i start the vac with the remote and after I finish ripping, using the same remote, i turn off the vac. Oh, by the way, this Wireless Remote Control Outdoor Electrical Outlet Switch runs about $15
Wow what a crazy price for Makitas new saw with all the
needed stuff. There nuts
Great video. The only minor quibble is that the new battery system voltage really isnât 4V more than the dual battery (18V x2), itâs more marketing than anything. Makita 18V is basically the same as DeWalt 20V or Metabo 18V, and Makita 40V is the same voltage as Metabo 36V.
It's like Makita is now pulling a Dewalt. :)
@@RonKillian fact
Hopefully theyâll hear our cries.
Hereâs my quandary. I have a battery operated Makita miter saw, so Iâm already stocked with two 18v batteries. I do not have a track saw and I suspect I would be an occasional user at this point, as I have a 11 X 16 shop (but I will eventually have a two car garage). Do I go for the 36v unit sans batteries or go corded? I do like the electronic brake on the battery unit but the extra weight and bulkiness canât be fun. Any thoughts? Oh, and Iâm probably only going to use it to break down plywood and MDF. Thanks!
I have the 36v, and honestly Iâm thinking of trading it in for the festool corded. My thought process is if it produces a lot of dust, I want it hooked up to my dust processor, which has a festool power cord attached. Only time I donât need dust collection is when Iâm on a job where dust doesnât matter, and accuracy probably matters less, so Iâll just use a standard circ.
Thatâs how I think of it! What is appealing in the Festool corded that the makita corded doesnât have? Besides customer service
@@wittworks A proprietary plug that plugs in at the tool, not the wall đđ
Question.. seems you'd usually use a vac attached to the saw. Which needs to be plugged in. Where's the advantage to the cordless saw? Just curious to help me decide
What a great video. I'm a carpenter in England and I have the 110v makita saw and I bought the 36v saw and their both great, I'm normally buy dewalt but I find makita are just that bit cheaper in price so also have 18v router I would not ever buy the Bluetooth system just because there taking the p iss with the price like you say so I just switch my bosch M class extractor on manually not a problem at all. Great nonsense videos đ
I just bought the SP001 in Germany, and the Bluetooth module was included, FWIW.
I really wanted the 40v saw, in general I hate corded tools aside from stationary ones. I decided to buy the corded Makita track saw, it was roughly $500 more once you factor in an extra battery for 40v (I have no makita cordless), plus the whole dust extraction deal. While I'm sure there will be times the cord will annoy me, I think I'll get on just fine.
Thank you for sharing. Same. I want cordless, but the cord is fine. Iâm already tethered with a vacuum hose anywayâŠ
If you are only using the saw I a shop corded makes sense if you are using on job sites or outdoors the 40v is worth the investment. I bought into the 40v system but also received free battery's with a deal from a local vendor.
@@aaronoconnor606 Im happy with my corded at the moment. Im actually glad I didnât get the 40v, as Milwaukeeâs new track saw looks great, and I already have some Milwaukee tools, where as Makita 40v would be a 4th platform for me.
I Bought the 36 volt saw Christmas Day off Amazon a long with the 2 piece power tech track. Then two days later bought another 7 1/4ââ circular saw that had the 5.0 batteries and the duel charger 176 dollars at a reduced price. Love the saw so far. Blade that came with seems to be top Notch. Donât have any dust collection for it yet. For me the 40 volts batteries donât seem to worth yet. Maybe if a had a weed eater that used them.
Thank you Tim for sharing. Great deal you got! I got my corded on a Christmas deal too. Let me know how you like the powertec tracks. I want to do a comparison review in the future on them.
Great vid! Iâve got the corded version but donât run the team teal 18v or 40v systems. I wouldnât go cordless given the costs involved. Out of curiosity, has anyone had any issues with the different kerf of the CMT blades changing/affecting the effectiveness of the rubber splinter guard from how it operates with the factory Makita blade?
Thanks! When I installed my CMT, it buzzed a very small off my splinter guard and gave me a fresh line. Only noticed when I saw a small amount of black saw dust. I haven't noticed anything else beyond that.
Preach it! LOL!
I'm actually in the market for my first track saw. I'll probably go with the corded version. Way cheaper and I no longer work as a carpenter for a living (retired).
Awesome! You'll like the corded.
Great breakdown! If i did it over again I would buy the cordless instead of the corded. Just would making dealing with dust collection only so much easier. Side Note: I can't get the discount code to work for etsy?
Try now. I extended it to end of January (originally expired on 12/31) but the settings didnât take in Etsy.
If you are buying the 40v saw for the additional 4 volts.... DON'T. Both the new 40V battery and the two 18V batteries are identical in voltage. 18V batteries have 5 cells (or in higher capacity packs can have 5 parallel wired pairs of 18650 lithium Ion cells wired in series) which gives you 18v nominal. A Lithium Ion 18650 cell has a nominal voltage of 3.6v, but when fully charged will have approximately 4.2v, which means the marketing guys can slap a 20v sticker on their batteries (I'm looking at YOU Dewalt). The same applies to Makita's 40v packs. they have 10 cells wired in series, giving it 36v nominal and 40v when freshly charged. So two 5 cell 18v packs are exactly the same as a 10 cell pack marketed as 40v. In my mind, the overpriced Bluetooth system would be the primary reason to want the 40v saw.... well, that and only needing to use 1 pack. I have lots of 18v packs in the shop, so I'll stick with the 36v unit.
Great info. Thank you for sharing. MARKETING tricks đ
Your calculation is correct *in theory* due to different structure and core of the battery technology you can definitely pull out more from the 40v batteries conpared to 2 x18v.
Been there and done that with tracksaw, leaf blower, lawnmover and big rotary hammer.
In addition, there are already 2x 40v makita tools as well as 40v 8ah batteries = you can never replace those with 2x 18v even *in theory*.
As an comment to the videos topic, i think hs001g (the 270mm circular saw) has all the benefits as tracksaw and on top of that massive cutting capacity. I freaking love that thing.
Well, ive seen head to head and most 40v look more powerful. And thereâs new high capacity batteries now
Also... which is what I just bought, there is a 2Ă18v version that has AWS as well. Less common, but i like that I can keep running my existing batteries because, as you said, same voltage. Also, two separate 18v batteries will arguably cool better than one 40v.
BTW I modified my 36v to be able to take a 7 1/4 blade which gives me a deeper cut with having the blade spin faster it gives me a cleaner cut.
Hey, your tracksaw videos have been some of the best reviews Iâve seen in all of CZcams, so I just came back here to leave this comment. Did you see Milwaukee will be releasing their long awaited tracksaw this Fall? (Fall of 2022)
Oh thank you! Youâre too kind. I did see it. Iâm saving up my pennys so I can buy one and review it.
What intrigues you about the Milwaukee? Do you have any specific questions?
@@wittworks Iâm already pretty deep into the M12 and M18 Milwaukee ecosystem of tools and batteries, so it just never made sense for me to buy a single, stand-alone, Makita tracksaw, even though it is an awesome tool by all accounts.
I'm now buying the red track saw. Thanks my friend
There is now two xgt cordless vacuums that have Bluetooth a 40v one and a 80v one. I am pretty sure they both come with the chips. Here in the in Ireland and the UK the saws come with the Bluetooth chips and the saws are not that more expensive than the 18/36v ones. It's a new platform you need to give Makita a bit of time to get the new tools out. Like the owner of the channel said if you don't need a cordless track saw the go for the cordless one. But if you want cordless go for the 40v you won't be disappointed đ
As a software engineer that worked in embedded, I can tell you that the bluetooth chip with some plastic costs around 3$ to make
Great video and review but I have to make some remarks:
1: The 18x2=36V system has the same volts as the 40V has, it is just sematics (marketing). As the 18V batteries are marked nominal voltage and the 40V batteries is marked max. ItÂŽs the same as Dewalt names their US tools 20V max but are 18V in other parts of the world and the same goes for the small Bosch-tools that started as 10,8V and just changed name to 12V to match the competition that already named their tools 12V (even if they also were 12V max or 10,8V nominal) There is no 4V difference.
2: I was thinking the same as you regarding corded vs battery powered but as I was going to do some decks and of grid projects I went for the 36V as I already was on LXT-plattform and I have to say that was the right decision. You are totally correct about the dust extractor problem but the fact is that this saw preforms better than I would guess with just a dustbag and that opens up a whole lot of more usecases. I hardly never use the extractor, even if IÂŽm in my shop. But, ofc, if you never, ever use your saw outside the shop and donÂŽt want to fiddle with batteries and chargeing and use the saw extensively, then corded is the way to go.
most of my aws tools came with the extra bluetooth dongle, and you can buy a bluetooth remote which has a cord plugs into any vacuum and starts the vacuum as it would a corded saw. One didn't include it. btw I bought the 36v with bluetooth, just because I've got like 20 18v batteries. And almost all of my tools are cordless 18v and they work.
I got a Makita 36 volt chain saw kit with four 5ah batteries and a twin charger last year. So I it made sense later to add the bare 36 volt track saw. A $45 dollar Festool remote button on the hose activates my Festool Midi. Definitely no 40 volt upgrade is in my future. Loved your ranting about Marita's inept and excessively expensive implementation of Bluetooth. Do 40 volt batteries charge using existing 18 volt Makita chargers?
Thank you Roy. That Festool remote is great! The 40v use a different mount - naturally (of course they do!) and doesnât fit with the 18v charger. I love makitaâŠbutâŠcome on!
Is the base plate on the makita magnesium?
I jumped into XGT and then pulled my hair out of my head having to run LXT and XGT simultaneously while Makita released new LXT tools at lighting speed, with no XGT counterparts, left giant holes open on XGTâŠstill has giant holes open, released te kettles instead of tools, held barely all follow up XGT tools out of the US for what seemed like forever and then dumped them all as âcatch-upââŠ. Uggg. Nuron launched and Hilti took my business away really quick. Makita make great products, but dang did they rub me the wrong with XGT.
We use the 36v track saw I would say roughly 7-10 days out of the month every month on site. Dust extraction is in not as important for us being outside compared to in a shop.
Multiple battery lines doesnât bother me as we run makita 18v, Milwaukee 18v and 12v, Dewalt 20v and 60v and now makita 40v.
The only tool that made me even consider owning any 40v tools was the 10 1/4 circular saw. The rest of the tools are to close to the 18v line to swap out at this point, just my opinion.
Also I feel like makita should have followed in the Dewalt flexvolt approach, is what it is I guess.
Great thoughts!
Acme, 580 for kit, I got mine right around Xmas.
The 40V battery is still a 36v battery. They are just wired differently and have new cells. Really not much difference there. Its just the idea of having one battery to replace the 2 18V ones, plain and simple.
Wow, in hindsight Festool does their bluetooth integration much better. Just got the CT Midi as well and it definitely is more versatile. It fits my Makita Track Saw and Bosch Sander with no adapters needed. Just click the bluetooth button on the hose and sunction on. 1..2..3 Yay Festool.
same! I love that little bluetooth remote.
I'm looking for a track saw to rip live edge slabs up to 12 ft and over 2 1/2" thick. The Makita 9 1/4 blade looks like my only option now. Not being a plunge saw how much longer does the track need to be? The Festool 75 can't find now.
I was going to recommend the TS75 đ€Šââïž
A cheap cheap option may be the wen 1272 - it does 2.6â but probably isnât enough and I wouldnât trust the motor. Itâs fisher price compared to makita or Festool.
I like my tracks to be at least twice the length of the saw base. That way it can sit on the base completely before and after each cut.
Big makita fan here. Sticking with the lxt range for now, may buy into the xgt line where I need it, like the 9â grinder.
Makita should have just revamped the entire battery range and made a dual voltage battery like hikoki.
I have the 36 volt version, which I use with success. It was early on my woodworking journey that I purchased it. If I had to do it again, I would have gone corded as I now always use a corded dust extractor. Now which corded? I think it comes down to the Makita or Festool TS60. I just looked at Amazon, $369 for the Makita vs $799 for the Festool. If my 36v Makita died today, I would want the Festool and likely get a Makita corded. However, crazy as this sounds, the Festool has a 13' cord. Cord length is no small matter. I might pay extra for the easy of use of a longer cord. How long is the Markita cord?
It seems insane that so much of the decision-making process revolves around the battery packs. I can't imagine a job site that requires a panel saw not having 120/240V available. It is disappointing that Makita does not offer a corded version - at least in Canada.
So is the corded version still a good option when you have power and invested in other brands for cordless?
I believe so. Iâm still happy with mine.
I have the 36v and I LOVE IT! If it ain't broke...right.
The hassle is enough to make you give up the whole idea of automated dust extraction. I am already so used to flipping the switch. What I donât like about Makitaâs approach is how they charge you only things that almost equate to a high end brand when you add everything together.
my dust collection is on a remote control anyway so bluetooth is no big deal. I also have to open/ close dustgates as well so unless I invest time in automating those there isn't a real benefit to a bluetooth system.