E-Ride Pro SS Official RANGE TEST! // Not what we expected......
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0:00 Intro
1:02 Price Update!
2:14 Range Test
8:18 important Info!
9:34 Range Test
15:56 Results
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After watching this range test what bike would you pick? Talaria sting R or E-Ride Pro SS🤔
sting is king gear box is king
E-ride pro. Ill take a bit more power over some range. Its unfortunate that its not as efficient as expected though and that the speed tapers off at 30% battery.
E-ride pro ss all the way. I love the display that they use
A stock E Ride Pro bike stands out as the top choice in its category. that's why i sold my Talaria. Keep in mind, the Talaria featured in the video is equipped with an upgraded battery and controller, an enhancement that adds an additional cost of $3,000.
SS for sure.
Hell yes! I love your range tests. I would love to see a Pro S vs. Pro SS full comparison.
Thanks!!!! Im sure that comparison will come at some point!
Absolutely I would love to see an actual full review of the Pro S model
Can you do falcon m by 79 bike
Go look at our video on the Falcon! It came out a couple weeks ago! Amazing bike
After experiencing the Pro-SS, I was so impressed that I immediately insisted on paying for it.
Don't forget the cold air is more dense air than warm air. This will affect battery economy. The Pro SS has a very large sprocket for performance and if sized compatibly to other bikes, the results would be different. Rider weight and tire pressure and wind direction wasn't mentioned either. The cold suit will also be a factor.
I still want one of these.
Are u bringing up density as it would impact drag? Because air density is going to have a negligible impact on an ebike. Temperature is the killer, nothing to do with air density. ICE engines, on the other hand, love cold air, as it's higher oxygen density means 'more boom' on detonation cycle.
@@demwillams8898 My Surron performs noticeably worse in cold weather in terms of power, I've never tested range difference between a hot and cold day but it wouldnt surprise me if that was also affected.
@paulhope3401 right, worse because temp not because of air density. I was trying to understand why the post I replied to brought air density at all in regards to this platform.
@@demwillams8898 Yeah, I think he just got a bit confused.
@demwillams8898 I suppose colder air will be denser and likely affect drag CO a tad.. but I'd expect the effect to be miniscule and the far larger effect to come from reduced battery performance.
Consistant tests among the ebikes. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
That stock BMS could be the kink in the equation. Most vendors don't 100% their items and drop it more so down to around 80% efficiency that way they can have more buyers and aren't narrowing their targets. Give it 6 mths, someone is going to crack that stock controller or just make a compatible one. Great videos steadily dudes!
Im getting myself one of these. I really only care about top speed and the fact that it can go a top speed of 50 with 60 on turbo is nuts
Hey talaria boys! My grandma lives right by you guys! It’s super fun watching you guys go right past her house onto the trail over the gate. I don’t know if that makes any sence but one of these days I hope I meet you guys sometime! Also I just bought a Surron so maybe we can rip🤙
Full Throttle comparisons is the only way! I remember days when you look at the range specs of a prebuilt bike and you just divide it in half, at least, most cases cut the time by 3/4.
Thanks for watching!
i appreciate the time you guys put into these range test .
Thanks!
This is good to know to see about the maximum distance at a given speed or mode but having a course with different surfaces would be a more real world test. I know all this takes a lot of time and resources; thanks for being able to do these videos.
Thanks for the input. We will try to share our range at the end of our future trail/street rides to give people a better idea of real world conditions.
What a great road for testing! Great video!
This is such a hard decison when it comes down to all the variables between all the bikes tho. Surron and Talaria all day cause they have the aftermarket cornered already, but then this bike comes with i wouldnt say halfway upgraded but its got the battery which is pretty significant.
Great analysis! Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Great work, love your videos! Do you guys ever have any fire safety concerns with any of these batteries when it comes to charging or storage? Been hearing a lot about ebike battery fires and explosions. I been riding dirtbikes for years and want to pull the trigger on an mx4 but don't want the worry of burning down my house.
The stories you hear are typically from crappy Chinese batteries on cheap scooters and similar PEVs. Buy the Talaria, just don’t charge it below 40 (charge it inside) and never look back. I also say this coming from riding gas bikes for years
We aren’t concerned but follow genera safety practices. It’s custom built homemade batteries you need to worry more about.
事实是以上电动越野车都产自中国
What a beautiful test track!
Heading out to Antelope Island
Beautiful ride
And helpful video
Thanks
Hey love the videos. Just wondering if you guys planned on doing a video on the talaria xxx 72volt battery that came out on chi batterys?
Yea we will 🤫
Thank youuuu. I asked for this in the last video it was like yall listen and answer.
Glad we could help out!
Very cool bikes makes me want to get my bike out n go for a ride thanks for sharing it bro ride safe
Great video Boys! Helps a newbie like me alot! Still so hard to pick one lol
Ya it’s getting hard to choose!!!
Talaria Sting R MX4 is best for the value. Throw a new controller on it and it’s just as good as the ss
Legit test! Getting ready to buy a bike. Based on your tests I’m leaning towards a talaria sting mx4.👍🇺🇸
Good choice!
I loved my mx4 best bike man I rode with my friends. It’s so fast!
I expect you lost 10% - 15% (5 to 7 miles) of range due to temperature.
Once the battery was outside and running on the bike. It will cool down fast and capacity will be effected. Still a great test!!
I run a 72V 38Ah e-bike in Canada. In the cooler months I get ~43miles & in the summer I get 49 miles of range. I drive it like its stolen!!
At +5°C; the output voltage of the battery will drop faster but the motor & controller are more efficient.
At +30°C; battery capacity will actually increase but the motor and controller are less efficient.
In addition, colder more dense air slows the bike down and winter gear also increases drag. I have an ebike and I see about a 25% reduction in range in the winter months with temps in the low 30s compared to runs on the same roads in the summer when temperatures are in the 80s
Thanks for this video. Everything you do is awesome!
Thanks for watching
curious to see you guys review the gearbox bikes like the timeET and the admit jet armor for both performance and range since gear box in theory would help range right?
Maybe we can review those in the future!
Are you guys ever going to do a new range test on the updated controller? 👀
Keep up the great work guys great vid.
Thanks!
Would be cool if there was an auxiliary plug for a spare battery you could attach to the "gas tank"
Hi Talaria Boys do you think it would be a good decision too get a torp tc1000 and other upgrades and put it on a Ultra Bee straight away out of the box or do you think i should wait until i get used to the power first and then put some upgrades on?
I would recommend just getting used to it stock, its an amazing bike and has lots of power. If you find yourself wanting more you can always upgrade down the road!
Man i love my sting R. I do like some little things about the ss pro that i wish the sting R had. Like the screen, black handlegrips, riser handlebars and the black footpegs. But those are kinda just aesthetic things. Once i change those minor things on my sting r, its an easy pick for me. Talaria all day baby
Nice! did you know that if you buy a sting r now it has black grips and black pegs? Which is super cool. The Pro SS screen is nice though! and the riser is a little better but we still want it higher so most people would end up buying a 3 inch riser anyways. We still love our Talarias especially the gear box!
Just got a sting R from Luna and it came with black grips but grey pegs still
@@vincerobleno shit fr? I just bought one last Saturday and it’s coming in wed !
@Talariaboys ready to see the 79 stats
The sting R has a screen for 140$ that looks identical to the pro ss
I was considering buying a gas 250 4stroke but these things are really interesting
FINALLY !!!! Thanks man
We got you
Really looking the e-ride pro ss. Im looking to buy my first bike soon and i apologize if this is a dumb question but any information on how our if it's possible to make either the pro ss, talaria, or sur ron street legal? Maybe registering them as a moped?
That’s a really hard question to answer, some have been able to do it and others have tried and tried with no luck. It really depends on where you live and and if you can get luck and make it happen.
Awesome video! Any plans to do a range test on the 79 Bike?
Yes coming soon
how can you compare a upgraded bike to a stock bike though? how much did all those upgrades cost to get that cycleworks comparable to the eride pro, kinda deceptive because cost vs cost + upgrades, out of the box the eride still beats all those bikes
We just did a test on that bike for fun, not a fair comparison obviously
How does the suspension feel compared to surron or talaria? I've seen people say there is no rear linkage but in the last vid I remember you guys said there was.
I have a Pro SS it does have a rear linkage, one similar to the Talaria xxx. The suspension feels really good off-roading but street riding the fork is a little bit too soft, atleast for my liking.
Yes it does have a linkage, it feels very similar to Surron or Talaria Sting, Feels very different to the xxx as that has no rear linkage. Thanks for watching!
@@magnuss6147the XXX does not have a rear linkage
Do you know if the talaria super Moto wheel set fit on the Eride pro SS?
We will know soon! Video coming as well.
Thank you can you also see what parts of a Surron and Talaria mx4 parts can fit on the Eride pro. Thank you.
Yes, that will all be in the next video!
A little sketched out by the E-Ride's reliability... I'm still saving up for a used Surron/MX3/4
What are the reliability concerns? I’m just getting into this and curious, thank you !
It's supposed to be able to go 90 miles if you hold at 15mph. Personally I would set custom modes to go 15, 25, 45, 60 mph so I could swap depending on my needs
Needs a retest in better weather. 40 degree weather cuts my range by 50-25% depending on windchill and wind direction even with charging inside. Average speed decrease 3-5 mph in cold also. Cold played a much bigger part than you were expecting. Sport mode would also get way worse as cold weather increases battery resistance, increasing battery strain.
I don't notice any power difference on my ebike in winter compared to summer. It's a 1.5kw 52v bicycle.
With the battery staying indoors and in the truck there is no way with that much mass that cold weather is going to affect it. It would have to be sitting for many hours for the internal temperature of the battery to be affected. And like the guy said, there is a small amount of warmth generated when discharging. I work for LG and have been working with lithium batteries for years. They have to be exposed to cold weather for 12+ hours before there is any degradation of capacity. Again, it is all about thermal mass.
@@user-ke9yk5qp3u Smarter people than me over on endless sphere, Have already done tests on batteries with monitoring equipment showing cold effects batteries absurdly fast. The cold weather, plus windchill create more resistance. That resistance means all batteries have less capacity in the cold.
@@TinyTitian ok then, good point. Thanks
New rc LIPO batteries take 5 or so recharge cycles to reach battery full potential. And some racers do extremely high discharges to get a super charged battery with a potential shorter life span.(dangerous). I wonder if these batteries act the same? Also cycling 100% to 50% makes for a long lasting battery.
Interesting. I wonder if this is it the case with the E ride pro
Just got a MX4, went to test pressure in factory rear shock and forks and it doesn’t read pressure for either. I pumped them up to about 100PSI for both then as soon as a check it right after it reads 0 again and I don’t hear any air releasing. Both don’t really feel that soft though it’s strange. Any idea or ever have that happen?
You realize the rear shock is not air filled right? Its nitrogen filled and is not meant to be messed with..You are also not meant to add air into the factory fork.. Did you have to take off that weird lower leg cap with the 19mm socket? If so put it back together and leave it be.
@@Talariaboys yeah I have nitrogen to fill it. And yeah I did for the front and had the same issue. I read multiple threads of people filling them up because they shipped with low PSI and greatly improved the feel of the shocks.
Also what battery cells are in that eride pro ss.....that could be the deciding factor in all the "this should be betters". That would explain how they are able to compete only 400 bucks more when a talaria would need 2500 to make it to the 72volt....just use crappy cells and we can call ourselves a 72 volt.
Did I miss the part about the range stat for the 72v Talaria in sport mode? I caught the eco mode range stats of the Talaria, but not sport mode.
We didn’t run a sport mode test on that setup sorry.
Let’s go babyyyy. Come down to Florida and do the 7mile bridge to the keys!!
That would be sick!! Good to see you on our YT brother
You should’ve tried the RoadRunner Pro! Bike/scooter I love
We will soon!
Can you also do this test in the summer since batteries don't do as well in cold temps? Thanks
Potentially
How do your modded sting R’s compare to the eride pro SS? More power and range or less?
Our modded Talarias have a lot more power and range than the pro ss
Which bike would you recommend for a bigger guy? I’m 6’2” and 225lbs. Which would be the comfiest, has the biggest seat, etc..
Talaria Sting R is the more heavy duty option of the smaller bikes that would support your weight just fine! Or if you want a bigger bike get a Surron UltraBee
You guys are like TFL Truck, but for a different platform. I enjoy your content even though I don't own one myself.
Thanks for watching!
what size is the nozzle to air up the tire for the e ride pro ss. I cant find any information for it
It’s a schrader valve the same as your car…
So what is the best bang for the buck looking buy one but know nothing about them thanks jim
Talaria Sting R is best bang for buck and easy to get. Lots of upgrades available as well. We purchase online from Luna Cycle in california.
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If you was picking a e bike to get what would you pick I'm leaning to the ss pro but you have rode them all curious on your opinion
They are all so good now! E-ride is pretty sweet though
Sweet range test! How does the pro ss stock seat feel?
It feels good, better than most stock seats
@@Talariaboys right on! Thanks 🫡
Looks like i made a good decision buying the xxx, seems to be unbeatable for the price
You guys should also put down the average speed in the spreadsheet too for both sport and eco mode.
👍 good idea
You guys should test aftermarket controller on the E Ride. i know a ton of people are wondering if any of them work.
Controller connectors are not the same as available controllers do at the moment nothing is compatible.
Nice video but unfortunately its not even close to being a comparison to summer riding, the cold weather not only affects the battery but it restricts the motor untill it warms to optimal temp and a lot more, the clothing you wear is heavier, the air density is heavier producing more drag, you could lose as much as 20% range in the winter compared to summer, apart from that good video 👍
Great vid, can you guys do a range test straight road on a Surron?
Hopefully we can do that in the future. I’m curious to see how it performs
@@Talariaboys ohh perfect me too
i just installed the 250mm brake rotors on mine
Nice!
Thanks bud ! 😂 didn’t know that
Another nice video 👍
Thanks again!
Serious question for any who reads this.
What emoto is the "right size" for a 6ft/185lb man with a 34" inseam to ride comfortably. I'm mainly interested in a supermoto type bike for street riding.
I know this might be a little subjective, but I don't want to buy a bike that isn't right for me, body size wise.
You'll be most comfortable on an Ultra Bee with supermoto wheels/tires at your height. It comes with a 74v battery and produces 12kw stock. All other bikes are cheaper but quite a bit smaller. IIRC, Lance is about 6" as well, so you can see the smaller bike sizes in their videos.
@@ChargedCycleWorks Thank you.
Will a bac8000 or ebmx9000 be compatible with the 79 bike
No. It has different wire harness plugs. Hopefully in the future companies will make plugs that will work.
It's time for the falcon range test!! Let's see it!!! Available in 3 colors, black. Brown, and silver$$$$$
We will do it soon! I think it will do very good!
I wonder how much of a role drafting played in the upgraded battery getting significantly better distance than the SS. In cycling, drafting can result in 100-150w savings. In a test like this, an extra 100w of savings over that time period could definitely make a difference.
I can’t imagine it played a big role in the extended range. Reed was often over 100 feet behind Lance.
@@Talariaboys yeah definitely not making at difference at that distance. 👌🏽
Can’t beat tha Sting R
Ya crazy huh!
How tall are you guys and how much do you weigh? I’m 6’3 240lbs. Would you recommend it?
I’m 6’3 as well but around 185lbs you will fit the bike just fine but the suspension may be quite soft for you.
are you ever gonna do a range test on the falcon 79 bike?
Yes very soon.
do you think the cold utah air might affect the range?
I believe the chilly conditions led to a 10% decrease in battery efficiency. Personally, I managed to travel 50 miles on eco mode
Yes it could affect the range slightly like we explained in the video.
The CCW 72V in the video wasn't fully discharged! 67V is well above the 0% cuttoff which CCW lists as 55V or the normal 72v cutoff at 60V, if you trust charts online you had another 30% left!
Do you have one of these batteries?
@@Talariaboys Unfortunately not! I just went on their site and that's what they list it as. I do have a Ebicycle with a 72v and I go to 60V / 0%
So I understand what your saying and that's what would make sense but in reality thats not how the voltage works. In this test once we came to a stop and our battery was just sitting with the bike not pulling any power from it the voltage sagged back up to 67v which your right is about 30% if you are looking at a chart, however once you start riding again the voltage immediately sags down to about 10% on a voltage chart and if you pulled more throttle it would go all the way to 0. If you didn't know already most stock batteries show 0% when in reality if you look at their voltage its between 30-35% on a voltage chart because again, if you got back on the bike and the controller allowed you to do a hard pull you would sag all the way down to low voltage cut off. The Voltage is only consistant to 30% and then it drops like a rock! When looking at a voltage chart you really are only good to ride to around 30% unless you are taking it really easy and slow past that point and wont last long anyways. In reality 55% is not the cutoff, 60V is. 55 is like when the battery is so dead that the bms doesn't work and your battery is ruined.
@@Talariaboys I'm surprised the CCW battery sags that much tbh, just based off my own experience I can pretty reliably pull my batteries voltage down to the 60V mark if needed, while still maintaining a decent amount of power. For the slow speed range test you probably only pull a few amps, for the battery to sag 5-7v at that power is huge. I built my 72v battery and I get around 5v max of voltage sag at max power for my bike. If I was to hold 28mph I would maybe sag 1v. Could also be the cold weather kicking in though for sure, colder cells have higher internal resistance causing more voltage sag. Well 55v is the point the bms will cutout, its not good for overall battery health but doing it once isn't going to hurt the battery much less ruin it, the bms will work fine and do its job (unless the bms and or battery is bad quality which i don't think the CCW is). I would be curious what the Erides voltage was and what it was cutting out at. The speed slowdown when it was at low % probably helped it not sag below 60v and thus allowing the voltage to get closer to 0%
The Talaria this time was upgraded so would be interesting to see range to price?!
Good idea
how many miles does your talaria sting have on it?
Honestly we have lost track. Lol On our current bikes we each have at least 1500 miles on them.
I’m new here but what about the surron?
We have not had the opportunity to do this range test on a Surron. It’s something we need to do!
Another option? To maybe include in your test is to accelerate to your designated top speed hold for 15s let it coast decelerate to a designated lower speed hold for 15s accelerate to.... Repeat.. could give it a little bit better real world expectations?
At this point we have done quite a few of these tests so we need to keep doing them the same🤷
How about wind direction/speed?
No wind at all during this test!
Do the 79bike opening and range test please
We will!
antelope island!!!!! are you guys local?
Yep
I can confirm the cold does affect the range of batteries. I have a dualtron thunder limited and I live in Colorado. During the winter months I lose about 5 miles of range.
When summer hit you mind doin summer and winder comparison
Potentially
I still feel like Surron is the best because every company copies the Surron frame shape. Plus everybody is gonna upgrade parts so they’ll all be the same speed eventually 😂
Surron definitely made a new class of bikes that other companies use for inspiration! Haha
Great test you keep comparing it to that Tellaria but doesn't that add another 3500 to the cost of the bike
What adds $3500?
U know if u wanna go farther u need to put street tires on them not off road dirt tires?
This is a stock bike range test. We test the bikes exactly as they would come from factory.
Solar eclipse can you do a test please on the 2.0
We don't have one unfortunately and probably wont be sent one for review!
@@Talariaboys was thinking about grabbing one!
Still happy with my Sting R but i know someone with a Pro SS coming soon, excited to compare the two.
Amped bikes is $4500 OTD for CA folks trying to avoid tax.
Not to be that guy but... for comparison purposes wouldn't it be better to keep everything the same, for example do a sport mode test at 40 & eco at 25....obviously 55mph will drain faster than 45mph
We do our best to keep the range tests as controlled as possible. We held a constant speed of 50 mph which is almost the same as the sting R.
How are you legal in the bike lane at 50 mph no pedals
Kinda cool I own several e bikes for single track pedals of course. But not getting these, any one of my small bore plated dirt bikes go all day long on very little gas .
Can you take the Talarias out on 5 Miles of Hell? Looks like fun and challenging!
We would love to do that this year!
How do I know where these are street legal or how to make them street legal? I want one and would like to keep my driver's license. 😉👍
I think you can title them and register with the dmv
Which bike is lauder?
The eride pro is louder
Y'all guys gotta get a caofen f80. Its awesome the road version comes with 72v 48ah out of the box and 8kw motor. 56mph top speed and really quick acceleration as well. The battery also has a heater and cooler built into it so you dont lose as much range in colder weather and you can charge it down to -40c.
That would be a cool one to review! I have seen a couple of videos on that bike.
Where do we get that Funky Suit?
Haha FXR Racing Snowmobile Suit
I'm so pissed off they don't deliver to nz.
Bummer
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i actually sent my controller back to e ride to tune out the huge battery drop at 30%.
Nice!
they can tune that out? interesting. Mine is supposed to get shipped on the 10th. I wonder if they could tune mine before sending it
Cold temperatures will affect your range unless you're using my LTO batteries
Like from me! Good work.
Thank you! Cheers!
E ride pro is still the best