Shane Gillis, Matt Rife, & The Plight Of White Men In Comedy

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
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    0:00 Intro
    1:15 The Shane Gillis Controversy
    5:49 Sponsored by Kitsch!
    6:43 The Grift of Matt Rife
    10:26 John Mulaney Kayfabe
    12:14 The Meta of Bo Burnham
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    Shane Gillis used his Saturday Night Live opening monologue to address his 2019 firing from the variety sketch series.
    On Saturday, the stand-up comedian took on the coveted role of SNL host nearly five years after he was fired from a cast position for using racial and homophobic slurs on a podcast. While addressing the crowd from the stage inside Studio 8H, he brought up the controversy and told the audience to not bother doing their research into his past if they don't know anything about what went down.
    "I'm here," the 36-year-old said at the start of the almost eight-minute monologue. "Most of you probably have no idea who I am. I was actually -- I was fired from this show a while ago. But, you know, don’t look that up, please. If you don't know who I am, please don’t Google that. It’s fine. Don’t even worry about it."
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  • @LunaWitcherArt
    @LunaWitcherArt Před 3 měsíci +272

    A comedian after my own theater kid heart: Gianmarco Soresi. Absolutely love his work.

    • @katie-allen
      @katie-allen Před 3 měsíci +24

      100%! I’ve watched his stuff on social media for a while and then I got to see him last year in person and he was great, hardest I’ve ever laughed at a comedy show

    • @JuiciferPandoraRex
      @JuiciferPandoraRex Před 3 měsíci +7

      same and same

    • @TequilaMockingbird88
      @TequilaMockingbird88 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Scrolled to say the same thing

    • @cmmbp1076
      @cmmbp1076 Před 3 měsíci +3

      my guy!!

  • @bigchez2855
    @bigchez2855 Před 3 měsíci +282

    Two alarming trends I've noticed over the years is the self aggrandizing many comedians fall into, but at the same time the undervaluing of the actual medium they profit from. A ton of comedians like to hold themselves to this higher standard of cerebral comedy, the idea they're the smartest person in the room, so much so they forget to have fun with the material. A lot of work I hear comes off more as telegraphed rants more than anything. At the same time when the mildest of pushback arises they'll go "it's just words," like my guy, your entire career is built on words. A few comedians have managed to build God damn Empires on words. I struggle to understand how someone can overvalue themselves so much, while undervaluing their impact.

    • @ta21l
      @ta21l Před 3 měsíci

      Exactly. This is how I feel too. Most of the time they are male comedians. Like they want money and praise to say the most offensive things because they know the ppl who fall for it will back them up no matter what. They’re not doing it for the art of comedy. They are grifters. Male comedians these days are real life Twitter and Podcasters. Just rants to make ppl feel angry and to promote some fucking product. In Matt Rife’s case it’s his doctor’s filler injections. It’s funny that the ppl who have a problem with female and LGBTQ comedians praise ppl like Chappell and Louis CK. If they’re fine with straight comedians saying anything to a specific audience then maybe stfu when it comes to women talking about their periods and gay men going on a bad Grindr hookup. Because honey if women and LGBTQ comedians go unfiltered to talk about straight (white) men on stage, white male comedian supporters will crawl back into their mother’s arms.

    • @gilly_axolotl
      @gilly_axolotl Před 3 měsíci +12

      I've felt for awhile that standup has too much ego in it and only comedians that actively work on staying grounded (bo Burnham for example) tend not to fall into the trap of it. It's not like sketch comedy, that actively requires people to make themselves look a little foolish for comedy, or improv which is like sketch but even more humbling. Stand up, more specifically popular stand up comedians, is literally someone standing on a stage while an entire crowd cheers and laughs at everything they say. The second there's any notoriety for the comedian, it's an inherently egoistic medium, which isn't inherently bad, but is often weilded badly

    • @hospitable_ghost
      @hospitable_ghost Před 3 měsíci +4

      Comedians like this always seem to think that the audience can't tell when they're being talked down to.

  • @haunted14
    @haunted14 Před 3 měsíci +359

    Matt Rife gives pick me, but for men. It’s weird and off putting.

    • @Hidalgoes
      @Hidalgoes Před 3 měsíci +2

      gay guys

    • @Mitchthemysteryman
      @Mitchthemysteryman Před 3 měsíci +7

      True. I'd take Shane over him. At least Shane has a kind of humility to himself, it seems.

    • @MaidenHelll
      @MaidenHelll Před 3 měsíci

      That’s why I like him

    • @Mike-li2wr
      @Mike-li2wr Před 3 měsíci +5

      Matt rifes ENTIRE fan base is Middle Aged woman who think he’s hot 😂 he is not even close to funny. (When someone is handsome= sooo funny)

    • @Ndizzyinthehizzy
      @Ndizzyinthehizzy Před 3 měsíci +1

      When all of his fans freaked out over the opening joke of his special, in like tell me you've never watched stand up other than the guy you saw on TikTok, without telling me so. Same thing with Travis Kelce at the Super Bowl. They saw him act up, and I could tell they've never seen a football game that didn't involve Taylor Swifts presence. It's completely normal for the art form, but people who've never seen it were shocked because they had no idea what they were in for.

  • @Zyxie_Zyxie_Zyxie
    @Zyxie_Zyxie_Zyxie Před 3 měsíci +390

    I think BMO said it best, “Maybe it’s just not funny”

    • @stonnergaming420
      @stonnergaming420 Před 3 měsíci +1

      And the makeup you were does not make you pretty 😮

    • @vechilia752
      @vechilia752 Před 3 měsíci +19

      @@stonnergaming420at least learn how to spell "wear" before trying to put people down. kind of embarrassing...

    • @stonnergaming420
      @stonnergaming420 Před 3 měsíci

      @@vechilia752 autism alert. How long you been looking at comments to disagree with?

  • @MsBlackcrow25
    @MsBlackcrow25 Před 3 měsíci +93

    Also I vote yes on the "inside" retrospective because that special had a chokehold on me for an entire 2 years

    • @kiefcoffee
      @kiefcoffee Před 3 měsíci +3

      You get it 🤝🏽💪🏽

  • @niya.k
    @niya.k Před 3 měsíci +131

    can't recommend Daniel Sloss' stand up enough

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 Před 3 měsíci +176

    Your video is very timely because Joe Lycett a comedian and presenter from the UK recently called out Ricky Gervais for the stuff he makes comedy about and said in not these exact words that essentially "edgy" comedians are basically lazy. It isn't smart or clever or well put together. These are not well crafted funny jokes. Joe said that if people like Gervais actually took the time to write proper jokes that were actually funny and didn't punch down or rely or shock value or edginess then people would have less issues with their comedy.
    I just felt like this was a very relevant thing to mention with the topic of this video.

    • @xandercrews4729
      @xandercrews4729 Před 3 měsíci

      Nothing should be off the table, this whole “punching down” concept is completely antithetical to comedy. People are sick of you lame asses trying to police comedy. There’s a good reason why Gervais’ special was the most viewed on NFLX.
      And the thing is, nobody is trying to take your shitty comedy away. If you want to watch these woke losers, go for it. The problem is, you want to ruin comedy for everyone outside your douchey bubble.

    • @fynchbird
      @fynchbird Před 3 měsíci +44

      Yeah also James Acaster criticized Ricky Gervais making fun of the trans community in his special. I’ll definitely have to look into Joe Lycett though, he’s so right in that.

    • @nospoilers4679
      @nospoilers4679 Před 3 měsíci +11

      People claiming their art form is harder (or the way to go about things) are so cringe. There are smart "edgy" jokes and lazy "edgy" jokes.

    • @MaidenHelll
      @MaidenHelll Před 3 měsíci +3

      It’s literally the most unserious topic…im so sick of people creating problems to avoid the ones they don’t wanna to deal with. I can guarantee every time one of these things blows up, There is something much more serious happening behind the scenes somewhere else that is being overshadowed by this nonsense

    • @lucypreece7581
      @lucypreece7581 Před 3 měsíci +9

      ​@@MaidenHelllyes there are serious issues in the world but sometimes they are too big to comprehend so we focus on the smaller things because we compartmentalise them better. Like I'm a 25 year old waitress from England how the hell am I meant to fix the invasion of Ukraine or the conflict in Palestine or the rolling back or reproductive rights in the US or the stripping away of trans rights in both the UK and the US. That is beyond my skills set and yes I have opinions on these things and express them when I can but I don't have the power or the means to actually change them but something like a shitty comedian making bad jokes I can do something about because I do have the means to go to comedy shows and access stuff like Netflix and I have the power to change the narrative of these situations by not going to see one comedian and supporting someone who I think is better. That is more realistic. So yeah we are not ignoring the serious issues in the world but sometimes thinking about them every minute of every day is overwhelming and depressing and we just wanna lett off some steam on a smaller more trivila less serious issues becuase that feels more within our wheel house of something we have the power to change.

  • @SMAnthonyW
    @SMAnthonyW Před 3 měsíci +522

    Matt Rife kinda looks like Sid from Ice Age.

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Před 3 měsíci +16

      I’ve always thought Anya Taylor Joy reminded me more of Sid.

    • @pettylisa5599
      @pettylisa5599 Před 3 měsíci +11

      If that's meant to be insulting, then just remember how much of an icon Sid is, and therefore Matt would be iconic.

    • @natsuki7325
      @natsuki7325 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@Woozlewuzzleablearen’t you special

    • @roseteapetals
      @roseteapetals Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@@firstlast9846 I'll never unsee that

    • @roseteapetals
      @roseteapetals Před 3 měsíci +22

      Correction: he looks like sid from ice age had a baby with handsome squidward

  • @Cardboard_Bot
    @Cardboard_Bot Před 3 měsíci +204

    Taylor Tomlinson, all her specials are phenomenal.

    • @Claire_Loves_Music
      @Claire_Loves_Music Před 3 měsíci +16

      One of my top favorites, along with Josh Johnson.

    • @luanagullotta6218
      @luanagullotta6218 Před 3 měsíci +13

      @@Claire_Loves_Music Maybe having an alliterative name is the key to stand up?

    • @pinkerhero
      @pinkerhero Před 3 měsíci +4

      bc of this I watched a clip of her talking about being in her 20s and laughed the whole way through, thank you!!

    • @Sajirah
      @Sajirah Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yeah, we saw her when she came to our town a few years back and she was great.

    • @Claire_Loves_Music
      @Claire_Loves_Music Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@luanagullotta6218 maybe..... 😂

  • @mariak143
    @mariak143 Před 3 měsíci +28

    I don't even like John Mullaney, but how does "he got a divorce" translate to "he was a completely different person in his private life"? Most people who have broken up with a partner had, at some point in the past, raved about that partner.

    • @LuxuryPossum
      @LuxuryPossum Před 3 měsíci +6

      Him being a "completely different person in his private life" probably made more sense in reference to his addiction, and less to his divorce. Addiction is a tough trap to get out of, so I have some sympathy for Mulaney. I understand that after going through something like that, it really makes you reevaluate your life. The time line of everything always seemed so nebulous to me, but it makes sense that a divorce was the result of Mulaney hiding his addiction from his wife. His ex posted a lot about the split so idk who initiated it.

  • @stonecrysalis
    @stonecrysalis Před 3 měsíci +110

    Jessica Kirson, Josh Johnson, Jay Jurden and Mateo Lane are all my top current comedians atm, solid vid love

    • @jradwells
      @jradwells Před 3 měsíci +4

      Matteo Lane is great 😂

    • @cinnamonroll96
      @cinnamonroll96 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Based on that I think Jessica and Matteo are hilarious, I need to check out the other two. I also have seen some clips of Taylor Tomlinson and I think she’s awesome as well, have to watch her new special.

  • @CosmicCupcake007
    @CosmicCupcake007 Před 3 měsíci +39

    My comedian recommendation: Matteo Lane! He's a gay NYC comedian and has three comedy specials and a ton of clips on his youtube channel and they're great!

  • @emmafrazier-roxburgh4964
    @emmafrazier-roxburgh4964 Před 3 měsíci +62

    Thank you for summing-up how I feel about Mulaney. I feel like Baby J is under rated. Look up James Acaster's Cold Lasagne Hate Myself 1999 - particularly his bit about 'edgy' comedians.

    • @yourfavoritebubbe7444
      @yourfavoritebubbe7444 Před 3 měsíci +13

      James Acaster is a top tier comic. He’s so funny and has a really good understanding of what actually “edgy” comedy is, the tea bit is totally wild and uncomfortable and pretty funny. I’m such a ride or die for James Acaster

  • @samirabdel-aziz478
    @samirabdel-aziz478 Před 3 měsíci +58

    Matt Rife looks like he's wearing a human mask but not quite pulling it off. Seeing people fawn over him is just something I don't understand

    • @vinnym5607
      @vinnym5607 Před 3 měsíci

      He's definitely on something.

    • @cinnamonroll96
      @cinnamonroll96 Před 3 měsíci

      Honestly when I first saw him somewhere I did think he was good looking but then the clip started, and I was immediately yikes. The reason these men don’t understand how what comes out of their mouth literally can make you the ugliest person in an instant. But yeah some of the other photos you sometimes see are just wild and like damn something do be off. Maybe it’s also this toxic masculine trend with the looksmaxxing.

  • @iain9757
    @iain9757 Před 3 měsíci +143

    Is it even “these jokes aren’t funny” or is it more “we’ve seen it 1000 times, it’s boring”
    Is “women should stay in the kitchen” even “edge comedy”?

    • @SconnerStudios
      @SconnerStudios Před 3 měsíci

      The "Islam is right about women" campaign was pretty damn edgy and not only funny, but thought provoking on our prejudices against how literal some religions take themselves over others, which may or may not be true. There's plenty of edge comedy still in existence, just not frequently done by comedians, but by internet trolls.

    • @SconnerStudios
      @SconnerStudios Před 3 měsíci

      or sam hyde's stunts (his show wasn't that great, but his candyman wrestling character was hilarious).

    • @elizrebezilmadommdo1662
      @elizrebezilmadommdo1662 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Yeah, but all the fans of these type of comedians will ignore you and put words in your mouth by saying, "UR JUST OFFENDED!!1!"

  • @studiojiggly
    @studiojiggly Před 3 měsíci +51

    Nicole Byer, Lady to Lady podcast (Babs Gray, Brandie Posey, Tess Barker + tons of amazing guests), Dropout content features so many brilliant improv actors

    • @emeraldskye4494
      @emeraldskye4494 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I just watched Nicole Byer's Crowdwork special, it was hilarious!

  • @ElijahRhyne
    @ElijahRhyne Před 3 měsíci +53

    Not gonna lie. I always assumed that you were mixed lol.

    • @xerohcool
      @xerohcool Před 3 měsíci +20

      I was about to comment something similar lol. I always thought she was like Latina or Spanish or something. You know, “spicy white” lol.

    • @kaylasays
      @kaylasays  Před 3 měsíci +67

      Hahaha it’s a common assumption! I’m Italian with some middle eastern heritage in there

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Před 3 měsíci +7

      I thought she was Mexican ICL

    • @xerohcool
      @xerohcool Před 3 měsíci

      @@kaylasays ahhh that explains it! Thanks for the reply! LOVE your content!

    • @duanerichardsii9307
      @duanerichardsii9307 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I was gonna comment this lol

  • @c.-sx2qd
    @c.-sx2qd Před 3 měsíci +43

    In terms of comedians who I enjoy, I find that the work of Chris Fleming has always been something I have enjoyed throughout the years - since his CZcams series Gayle, to his most recent Peacock Special. It’s stream of consciousness, queer panic, irreverent, and utterly enjoyable.

  • @koffeewithklara9477
    @koffeewithklara9477 Před 3 měsíci +22

    Bo still remains as my fav. and his most recent netflix special reaffirmed that. Also the only comedian that i can listen to their entire set without losing interest. The only other comedian I have found that can hold my attention is Taylor Tomlinson so she would be my recommendation to you

  • @gogopartytime
    @gogopartytime Před 3 měsíci +20

    Marc Maron remains my favorite. I’ve seen him in a small club setting and a huge theater. He can read a crowd so well, and it’s amazing to watch him in action. He’s also one of the few comedians that makes fun of Joe Rogan’s circle and people like Matt Rife. lol

    • @goose_suit666
      @goose_suit666 Před 3 měsíci

      Also came to the comments to recommend Marc Maron. I've been following him for about 10 years and he puts on a hell of a live show. And yes yes yes I appreciate him so much for dunking on people like Joe Rogan and Matt Rife.
      His last comedy special (HBO/Max) made me laugh and cry.
      I also have fond memories of a ferret I had who would dance every time I put a Marc Maron special on.
      (Also if anyone is still reading this he's on tour right now)

    • @jamk2668
      @jamk2668 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Marc Normand makes fun of Rogan to his face. Lol.

  • @123theprodigy5
    @123theprodigy5 Před 3 měsíci +29

    I just found your channel, great content. You are so real, and uncensored which I prefer.

  • @sadlystuckinreality
    @sadlystuckinreality Před 3 měsíci +29

    That one photo of Matt Rife is so crazy I always assumed it was photoshopped.

  • @larsvontrash
    @larsvontrash Před 3 měsíci +27

    James Acaster is very funny

  • @JenAnna
    @JenAnna Před 3 měsíci +12

    I think Shane’s monologue was fine, and it sounded people were laughing a lot. He himself said he was bombing but apart from him saying that I didn’t think it was bad. His funniest jokes were ones I’ve heard from him before, so it wasn’t the best. The set wasn’t cringey or uncomfortable for me at all though.

    • @reneej7594
      @reneej7594 Před 3 měsíci

      Agree and he didn’t bomb or kill. He always makes fun thst people aren’t laughing. It’s part of the shtick.

  • @yourneopetisstarving
    @yourneopetisstarving Před 3 měsíci +21

    I'm so out of touch that I thought Bo Burnham was still dating his gf from Make Happy. I can't believe that had a 12 year age gap :O anyway, great work as always!

  • @hotdogburp
    @hotdogburp Před 3 měsíci +4

    love the jerrod carmichael shoutout, speaking of comedians who have hosted SNL his episode was amazing and probably my favorite episode of SNL out of the last few years of the show tbh, he is SO FUNNY and clever and he truly killed it. highly recommend to anyone who hasnt seen!!

  • @catsrambling
    @catsrambling Před 3 měsíci +40

    My recs will always be Daniel Sloss, also Hannah Gadsby and Mae Martin - and Taylor Tomlinson.
    And as some said, Matteo Lane, watched some of his stuff on youtube and I actually laughed out loud and teared up from that!

  • @christianscholer6599
    @christianscholer6599 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I usually mostly enjoy gay comedians and female comedians (Maria Bamford, Urzila Carlson, Joel Kim Booster, Matteo Lane). I was surprised how much I enjoyed Moses Storm's special Trash White. (It's more in the vein of Nanette than Matt Rife.)

    • @stonnergaming420
      @stonnergaming420 Před 3 měsíci

      That's wild to point out what gender or sexual preference a comedian is. Seem a lil up your ass

  • @heysilly1341
    @heysilly1341 Před 3 měsíci +16

    I love the more frequent uploads. Thanks for great quality content

  • @strawberrylime33
    @strawberrylime33 Před 3 měsíci +3

    The thing is, cancel culture does go too far, but i CANNOT laugh at a domestic violence joke. Especially when, in black culture, it's cool to "hit that" or "handle that"

  • @kiefcoffee
    @kiefcoffee Před 3 měsíci +13

    Been obsessively watching Jessica Kirson & Gianmarco Soresi n their crowd work !! 🫶🏽♡

  • @user-yb2pu5du2g
    @user-yb2pu5du2g Před 3 měsíci +3

    Shane put on a show and will be a driving force behind the change that the entire world wants and needs but can’t say.

  • @iain9757
    @iain9757 Před 3 měsíci +5

    About 14:30 “are you interested in being better”
    I also feel it’s “do people want you to get better?” because often especially with women online it’s a “NO” but then they often remove themselves when it gets too much because even if they’ve changed they won’t be forgiven like Jenna Marbles or Nostalgia Chick or people never bring it up again like Trisha Paytas

    • @dotcom3015
      @dotcom3015 Před 3 měsíci

      most people who watched Jenna was ready to forgive her. Hardly anyone was holding it against her because she chose to leave immediately after she made her apology, so the main discourse about her was people crying about wanting her back. It’s so tiring that four years later, people still act like Jenna is a victim of her own choice

  • @Aeunax123
    @Aeunax123 Před 3 měsíci +2

    It’s very interesting for me to see all of this discourse around comedy because comedy has never really been one of my favourite genres of media. I did grow up, watching some stand-up here and there, mostly of Dave Chappelle, because he is also of the community. But I’ve always found comedy to be very cringe, and I never pay attention long enough to actually have. A lot of these jokes makes sense to me, so it’s just really interesting for me to see all of this this course around it.that’s all! Just wanted to add to your engagement lol

  • @gilly_axolotl
    @gilly_axolotl Před 3 měsíci +4

    I've felt for awhile that standup has too much ego in it and only comedians that actively work on staying grounded (bo Burnham for example) tend not to fall into the trap of it. It's not like sketch comedy, that actively requires people to make themselves look a little foolish for comedy, or improv which is like sketch but even more humbling. Stand up, more specifically for popular comedians, is literally someone standing on a stage while an entire crowd cheers and laughs at everything they say. The second there's any notoriety for the comedian, it's an inherently egoistic medium, which isn't inherently bad, but is often weilded badly

  • @neivilde.1242
    @neivilde.1242 Před 3 měsíci +6

    this is totally random but i watch that red head band member every monologue, i love her

  • @shainahiggins2217
    @shainahiggins2217 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I have a particular affinity for Irish comics, and Dara O'Briain is probably my favorite. I've watched his specials so many times, but they can always me laugh 'til my ribs hurt. Finally got to see him live a couple years ago, and my allegedly waterproof eyeliner was practically gone by the end.

  • @YarrBr0
    @YarrBr0 Před 3 měsíci +3

    well, people are also mad at Bo Burnham because he was with Lorene Scafaria for many years, and he seemingly started dating Phoebe Bridgers over night... but we have no clue what was really going on because Bo likes to keep his private life private

  • @elisavam5622
    @elisavam5622 Před 3 měsíci +7

    James Acaster is really good

  • @PokeJoltz
    @PokeJoltz Před 3 měsíci +5

    Iliza Shlesinger is hilarious, especially 'Elder Millennial'

  • @emcvideoproductions500
    @emcvideoproductions500 Před 2 měsíci +2

    So unless I’m mistaken, are people upset that Bo Burnham is dating Phoebe Bridgers and not even remotely acknowledging that he previously dated someone much much older than him in the past? Just curious.

  • @jimathybindlenim6359
    @jimathybindlenim6359 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think its simple. There are two kinds of people when it comes to comedy. People who laugh and people who are concerned.
    Comedy is a "safe space" for people to say offence things.
    Comedy are like chillies you dont have to eat them and you probably shouldn't heat the hot ones

  • @dionmikkel745
    @dionmikkel745 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I highly doubt that Bo Burnham has lost more fans because of his relationship with Phoebe Bridgers (whatever it is) than Matt Rife has from his unrepentant misogyny and ableism, including past comments made on various podcasts about his preference in female genitalia and the link to special-needs headgear he posted as a response to the outcry over the Netflix special. Neither of which you mentioned although they do figure significantly into the full story. I can only conclude, as I usually do when watching your essays, that while they are often entertaining and occasionally informative, they are always partisan and (therefore) deeply lacking.

  • @andyshouldbewriting
    @andyshouldbewriting Před 3 měsíci +3

    Michelle Wolf and Rosebud baker do darker comedy and that's just a masterclass in how to do it. It's an offense subject but there's a skill around the thought process and delivery. What a lot of straight white men don't think about is that you maybe have to be clever about how you deliver a potentially offensive joke. Maybe think about it, craft it? Make it seem like you've put some care into your work instead of just seeing it as a chance for "man points".
    I also love Daniel Sloss and Iliza Shlesinger!

  • @laurabuchanan2180
    @laurabuchanan2180 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Rec: Gianmarco Soresei

    • @katie-allen
      @katie-allen Před 3 měsíci +2

      YES saw him in person last year and it’s the hardest I’ve ever laughed at a comedy show

  • @cuppapablo
    @cuppapablo Před 3 měsíci +6

    Matteo Lane has me in a chokehold lately.
    Why has conedy changed? The internet and social media has given a voice to everyone. Minorities who were silenced are being heard. We used to find certain things funny because we thought it was just words/a joke. When you learn that a joke causes harm, it stops being funny.
    Where is the line? It's real simple and easy, if you aren't part of the community you are using as the butt of your joke, you shouldn't make said joke.

  • @crystalcastillo7575
    @crystalcastillo7575 Před 3 měsíci +3

    jesus that matt rife "joke" was just stare worthy, my God its so outwardly pandery (i know that's not a word idc)

  • @ericaw1312
    @ericaw1312 Před 3 měsíci

    Well said. I recommend reading Kliph Nesterhoff’s book Outrageous on this subject too!

    • @stonnergaming420
      @stonnergaming420 Před 3 měsíci

      Tbh you're a loser if you're thinking this deep about comedy and yet getting shit so wrong 😂😂😂

  • @markduret9538
    @markduret9538 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I'll be real, Matt Rife actually looks terrifying now.
    Like, House Of Wax type bad guy.

  • @davidvitti8240
    @davidvitti8240 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don’t know too much about him, but I saw a couple of Moses Storm bits that I really like.

  • @talonthehand
    @talonthehand Před 3 měsíci +1

    So it’s not standup comedy, but Andrew Rousso does comedy CZcams that’s amazing. Just like a couple minute skits, very surreal, completely fantastic. Cannot recommend enough.

  • @dannielleburrus6117
    @dannielleburrus6117 Před měsícem

    Baby J is such an underrated stand up show. I loved it! So funny and I felt all the emotions.
    I started following Steve Hofstetter during the pandemic and just saw him live 2 weeks ago. He is great!

  • @samland9570
    @samland9570 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Will Compton’s tweet was so dumb. Like, Shane didn’t call something or someone the r word, he was just saying if someone ever calls his niece that she’ll have brothers to back her up

  • @johnnyantonini4147
    @johnnyantonini4147 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nate Bargatze has been getting the respect he deserves after years of great stand up. James Acaster released a 4 part special on Netflix that is one of the greatest things ever written and performed.

  • @JawnLouis
    @JawnLouis Před 3 měsíci +2

    Roy wood Jr and Ali Saddiq 2 of my favorite comedians

  • @silencesteel5246
    @silencesteel5246 Před 3 měsíci +3

    4:26
    Shane was just inspired by Mirage monologue in RPDR live

  • @jensendsflowers
    @jensendsflowers Před 3 měsíci

    I’m happy to hear you talk about this!

  • @AnnaKahlo
    @AnnaKahlo Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shane Gillis saying "My intention is never to hurt anyone but i am trying to be the best comedian I can be and sometimes that requires taking risks" is so funny. He's like "sorry (?) if i use racial slurs but hey heyyyy you gotta understand, asian person, you're not the one taking risks here, I AM!! Because I, COMEDY, MEN, GREATNESSS
    Idk he comes off as someone that thinks way too much of himself. Like if you being ambitious and wanting to become an amazing comedian means taking risks, that's amazing, go off, but take real risks that you truly think make you a different comedian, that make you stand out, that innovate maybe BUT DONT CALL RISKS TO MAKING SILLY ASS RACIST JOKES.

  • @chasingdopamine616
    @chasingdopamine616 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I can’t recommend Nate Bargatze enough. So wholesome and so funny like Jim Gaffigan

    • @NitsujRelis
      @NitsujRelis Před 3 měsíci

      My only issue with Jim Gaffigan is that outside of his stand up...he's pretty dumb. It's sad.

  • @KnarfStein
    @KnarfStein Před 3 měsíci +7

    15:23 By "stupid", you're referring to the unhinged reactions of these parasocial fans, right?

    • @kaylasays
      @kaylasays  Před 3 měsíci +4

      correct lol

    • @reen4450
      @reen4450 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I still occasionally see comments that r like "justice for Anna". I dont understand what justice they want to see regarding a stranger's divorce.

  • @vicariously143
    @vicariously143 Před 2 měsíci

    Your content is so refreshingly honest. Thank you for being you.

  • @JillianFischer1
    @JillianFischer1 Před 3 měsíci

    Very smart commentary. Glad I stumbled across it!

  • @margicates553
    @margicates553 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Fern Brady is an autistic comedian and I adore her.
    She so delightfully wierd

  • @kezia8027
    @kezia8027 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Oof haven't watched the vid yet, but it was nice knowing you Kayla. Sorry you're about to be hate brigaded for a week from a bunch of sad boys who can't talk about their feelings so they lash out instead!

    • @stonnergaming420
      @stonnergaming420 Před 3 měsíci

      I mean when you're focused on the race of a comic and make that a point of the video you're going to get hate cuz you're just a bunch of losers that ruin things for people. What was the point of this video? To hate on white comedians that you don't like?

  • @Missjunebugfreak
    @Missjunebugfreak Před 3 měsíci +9

    I really like James Acaster. Tbh i've never found Bo Burnham funny and watching his "Inside" special did nothing for me. Just found it a bit self-indulgent (even though that was probably the intention) in an off-putting way.

  • @basedgodevoir2487
    @basedgodevoir2487 Před 3 měsíci +4

    thank you for explaining this to me like I fell out of a coconut tree

  • @zeeking3929
    @zeeking3929 Před 3 měsíci +1

    So true about how difficult it is to have productive discourse on this topic.

  • @austensg9596
    @austensg9596 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I can’t wait for your Wicked takes!

  • @melaniedavis-kay7599
    @melaniedavis-kay7599 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I've always liked Joe Pera, his show got me through a lot of tough times

  • @albertqhumperdinck
    @albertqhumperdinck Před 3 měsíci +2

    Ashley Gavin, Jay Jurden, Caitlin Peluffo, Emma Wilman!

  • @RonanSkiles
    @RonanSkiles Před 3 měsíci +1

    Tig Notaro is my favorite stand-up comedian, I definitely recommend her to everyone here!

  • @hannosh7634
    @hannosh7634 Před 3 měsíci

    I recommend Nate Jackson he has a couple specials up on his CZcams page !!

  • @yourfavoritebubbe7444
    @yourfavoritebubbe7444 Před 3 měsíci

    If you just want a really good laugh and want to watch some comics doing insane stuff, watch UK taskmaster. There’s like 16 seasons and it’s not for everyone but if you like it you will cry laughing

  • @juliatheotonio1002
    @juliatheotonio1002 Před 3 měsíci

    Não encontrei o Instagram. Se alguém souber me fala por favor?

  • @smassiha7881
    @smassiha7881 Před 3 měsíci

    Dan Telfer. One of my favorite bits he ever did was this rambling joke about Tycho Brache, the Danish astronomer.

    • @smassiha7881
      @smassiha7881 Před 3 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/tBFv86BrpOI/video.htmlsi=y3Mp0OG6OgYzSIH4

  • @kat_the_ot
    @kat_the_ot Před 3 měsíci +3

    Im honesly a huge Iliza Schlesinger fan.

  • @onewithdinosaurz
    @onewithdinosaurz Před 3 měsíci +1

    You know who I love to an unhealthy degree? Pete Davidson. Painted him for an art final. Still on my wall

  • @call_rickey
    @call_rickey Před 3 měsíci +1

    Randy Feltface! Great standup and such good puppetry you’ll forget he’s a little purple freak lol

  • @HarvestStore
    @HarvestStore Před 3 měsíci +4

    I think comedy has moved to the video essay. I laughed more at someone's essay on something stupid. Maybe we should call it co-vi-sty... maybe not.

  • @jellyrcw12
    @jellyrcw12 Před 3 měsíci

    I'd love an Inside retrospective!

  • @docseamonster3491
    @docseamonster3491 Před 3 měsíci +1

    An up and coming comedian I really like is Josh Johnson.

  • @mazvitaselemani
    @mazvitaselemani Před 3 měsíci

    Missed opportunity to have a Matt Rife pun in thumbnail 😅 probleMATTic

  • @katherinecolglazier2909
    @katherinecolglazier2909 Před 3 měsíci +11

    I am a huge Bo Burnam Stan so I was scared when I saw him next to Matt Rife. And I am obsessed with your channel so I was worried. I def think Bo Burnham's comedy isn't without flaws but I do think he's one of the only white comidens who acknowledge (as you mention) his past and point out the issues in his thinking, as well as a reflection of his own hypocrisy. Bo also points out his witness in a different way then say a "Munaley", (when I say whitness I mean how he passes, not that he is not jewish) I agree that he 100% resents how he got famous and the process of fame. But when I think of the plight of white men in comedy, Bo doesn't feel like he is despreat for relivence like Mike/ Munaley and maybe that's why I view them as difference? I think I also just view Bo as more of an "artist" then a true "comiden" maybe that's the difference? I don't know! I am just a random person on the internet who loves your channel and Bo Burnham and hates the other white men on this list, I hope you have a great day 😂💞

    • @reen4450
      @reen4450 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Im confused by what u mean by how Bo points out his whiteness. Or how he passes for white. He is white..... Isnt he?

    • @d.o.vitelli5855
      @d.o.vitelli5855 Před 3 měsíci +1

      This was so incredibly hard to read

  • @1983jcheat
    @1983jcheat Před 3 měsíci +2

    Gillis did say something racist. If he wouldn't have said that he probably would have been on SNL a season or 2.

    • @gachibassunlimited3930
      @gachibassunlimited3930 Před měsícem

      Look at the wider context of the clip, he was literally making fun of people that look like him (and me)

  • @beautifulmidnight
    @beautifulmidnight Před 3 měsíci

    Russell Howard is probably my favourite comedian. Mae Martin, Jack Whitehall, Greg Davies, Rhod Gilbert, Dara O’Briain, Aisha Tyler… I’m sure there’s more but I’m forgetful

  • @howveryedits
    @howveryedits Před 3 měsíci

    all of that was really well said Kayla!

  • @beaniebaby485
    @beaniebaby485 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I really like Josh Johnson!

  • @theendisnier
    @theendisnier Před 3 měsíci

    great video, subbed!

  • @johnnam1380
    @johnnam1380 Před 3 měsíci +13

    I feel like edgy comedy only works if it has something to say, no? Otherwise you’re just being a dick because that’s the easy thing to do lol anyone can say something obnoxious and call it a joke lol. I work with middle schoolers, and if we consider that comedy then my 12 year old students need to get paid lmao

    • @kezia8027
      @kezia8027 Před 3 měsíci +2

      It's why they all make the same jokes...

    • @xandercrews4729
      @xandercrews4729 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Or maybe some people are just naturally funny and capable of making those jokes funny. Not everything needs to mean something more.

    • @kezia8027
      @kezia8027 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@xandercrews4729 Or maybe some people don't have the skills to see more than face value and feel ashamed at that fact, so they attack anyone who points out anything that makes them question their precarious relationship with masculinity.

    • @xandercrews4729
      @xandercrews4729 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@kezia8027 or maybe they’re just jokes and this isn’t a Sociology class? But again, if you want your shitty, neutered watered down “comedy” that’s fine, just stop trying to dictate what everyone else finds funny.

    • @kezia8027
      @kezia8027 Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@xandercrews4729 it's okay buddy, I know having feelings is scary so you'd rather lash out and attack people than examine your internal motivations and thoughts, but it's okay. You don't have to be so miserable and angry all the time, you can get help and talk to a therapist and actually feel happy again.
      Good luck dude you can do it!

  • @buddytoujours5993
    @buddytoujours5993 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I second Taylor Tomlinson. If you're not watching After Midnight you're only getting half the story (and AM has on a lot of great comedians as well)
    Anthony Jeselnik. His material is very intelligent and sometimes "edgy" without being offensive (or at least if you're offended then you don't understand the humor). You've mentioned you're a hater, like me, and Jeselnik is definitely the hater's comedian of choice

  • @eewahnah
    @eewahnah Před 3 měsíci

    I love a special and Jerrod Carmichael's as well as Jes Tom's are the best ones of the past few years

  • @danderson8431
    @danderson8431 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Josh Johnson!!!! PLEASE check him out!

  • @essjayess11
    @essjayess11 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The late Mitch Hedberg is one of my favorite comedians!

  • @ronoc9
    @ronoc9 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Randy Feltface. He's a puppet comedian and he's hilarious! Surreal at times. His big set "Randy writes a book" was leaked online and went viral.

  • @GabyyRose
    @GabyyRose Před 3 měsíci

    Wait that's it ? John Mulaney only just... divorced his wife and got married again ??? I thought the dude had beaten his wife ! Holy sht how did this end up being what I heard about him... That feels so weird...

  • @lisamujo287
    @lisamujo287 Před 3 měsíci

    I really recommend Josh Johnson!

  • @german102302
    @german102302 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I stan comedian women only. I find something very relatable in them

  • @solearesoul
    @solearesoul Před 3 měsíci +3

    I know, it’s hard to find comedy funny if you’re up your own serious ass with political correctness. The over emphasis on identity has become completely consuming in American culture. If something is funny, it’s funny. It doesn’t matter if they’re white, black, Asian, male, or female, etc. Identitarians are adepts at making things bland and unfunny, for the sake of virtue signaling their wokeness (or “patriotism, on the other side). This obsession with identity has all but ruined a majority of modern movies, with an over emphasis on gender and race swapping, and not much effort in the way of intriguing storytelling. Comedy is the front lines of free speech.
    The best comedians in my opinion are right in the middle of the road politically, because they can critique the ludicrous nature of the extremes of both sides. I know the left likes to think that there’s nothing to critique on their side, and if you don’t toe the line on every issue, or you critique it, you’re “alt right”. Both sides are worthy of satire. Especially where people are obsessed with identity.
    Personally, I think Shane Gillis is bound to be legendary one day and one of the best comedians that we have seen in a long time . And part of what I find funny about him is that he’s not humping either political side, but he’s making fun of both of them. That’s part of a comedian’s job; to find where you’re uptight and push those edges, so you can laugh at yourself. Comedy is a Way to discuss the darkest aspects of the human psyche and society… and social taboos, but by bringing laughter into those places, it helps to heal them. And personally, I don’t think comedy with a woke agenda is very funny, because it’s too puritanical and safe… and takes itself to seriously.

  • @clayjack9969
    @clayjack9969 Před 3 měsíci

    Matt Rife is the only guy in that thumbnail to face backlash really and he kinda deserved it by cultivating a very specific audience and then telling a joke everyone knows they would hate. Then having that joke be so mid that no guys comedy fans would really want to go to mat to defend him or even start watching his stuff. He’s gonna need to get a lot better if he wants to regain any audience and even then it’s going to be an uphill battle because of how he looks and his history.

  • @lindsey4620
    @lindsey4620 Před 3 měsíci

    My comedic opinion is you can truly joke about anything, including offensive shit, but you have to EARN it; it’s gotta be fucking clever and funny