wish someone can write an alternative history to this. I do respect for certain things he does, but it is also important to know the other side of the story. It is not pretty on how Singapore get to where it is today, but it is an important lesson for next generation to think about if that is the way to get things done. To think about humanity, empathy and compassion, rather than just power as a mean of success.
A salute to TOC and Thum Ping Tjin for this series of videos. This is should be the history taught to our younger Singaporeans not someone else's "his" story. Our MSM would keep mum on such things.
Thank you PJ Tham for this. very important and revealing. speech about the backstabbing. of Lee Kuan Yew and PAP ministers . This part of the history is hidden from Singaporeans and we only hear of the achievements of LKY . ... Please publish this very important part of history for future generations to read and understand ..... PS also include how LKY detained and imprisoned about 120 people
When LKY died...people ask if I'm sad ...i say NOT AT ALL, cos thru his implemented 2 child policy....my parents have to pay a fine or abort me. So if my parents were to abort me....LKY is the murderer. So am I to be sad the murderer died? Heck NO.
@@bobbyng6436 My mum was very upset at the Polyclinic cos the nurse told her so what if turns out to be a boy, there are no school for him where he can get a decent education, mu mom went home crying and told my dad. The next day my dad took my mom to the polyclinc and asked her which nurse spoke nonsense to her. My dad went to the nurse and told her, how can you a nurse discourage my mother and push abortion as an option, you don't children but we like to have children, don't upset my wife anymore with your nonsense talking, that time the nurse was still trying to explain..but but but, my dad said to her, my son education is none of your concern, the govt want to build schools don't build schools also none of your business. Stop scaring my wife and in the end my brother was borned.
its funny how close to 90 percent of sinkies probably do not know this about their beloved dear leader's past......except for the handful of people who stood and opposed against him....... my god even 80 percent of PG and MG generation who witnessed history itself for decades had no clue what was going on around them.............are sinkies really just a bunch of daft coolies and farmers?iv never seen a population as politically and socially ignorant as sinkies.....not the malaysians,not the thais,not the taiwanese or the hong kies.......except maybe north koreas.......
Opening the gate of high and mid level jobs to foreigners and offering scholarships to foreign students (and denying our own Singaporean kids) is itself backstabbing to its own true blue-bred Singaporeans born here. I have always liked and respected the late Mr LKY but, however, i never like the fact that he locked up his oppo competitors without trial and only release them in their frail elderly age. To me, that is utter cruelty. Also to that he is actuaĺly breeding Singaporeans not to have a mind to dare to think in the political field by creating FEAR. This in turn will be disastrous to Singapore.
Hey PJ, I applaud your content and insights to issues, especially political ones and am sure you are a big fan of The Daily Show. "Throw it to the web", "moment of zen" are cool term and concept, but pretty sure you can be more original and creative. Ya?
Thanks for sharing your Great academic work about the real history of my country. I’m feeling more at peace in knowing the details of vital history which we were denied for decades. 🙏
When the racial riots was raging like fire in Singapore. PAP seek help from the secret societies to help as there racial in the police department. After the episodes of the racial uprising. The Secret Socialty is all rounded up with the award of facing the law as section 55 to jail them without trial.
WELL DONE TOC! Kudos to you and your team! SO glad and SO relieved that lee kuan yew is officially dead. vivian balakrishnan, you do NOT have a conscience. you do NOT have morals. you are a freaking hypocrite. you are into politics only for the money and glam. May the Heavens be kind to you on Judgment Day. Have to share this piece of important information and truths with my journalism and communication studies classmates, including foreign students who believed that "lee kuan yew built Singapore". There is going to be quite a bit of debates!
PJ THUM, the opening SELF-introduction you had evidently portrayed in a stunting 'garment' of a highly learned person. With a posture of Professor but later behaved like a 'clown' swan across almost the entire globe returning to homeland with a GREAT AMBITION? Ain't that was a tasteless impression to show how noble you are? And discredited yourself further giving unintelligent and low-mentality speeches befitting the 'Coffee-shop' talks. Your speeches are NOTHINGNESS but only criticism and smears worthy of classless nerd. ANYONE WITH A SHORT SPEECH THAT EDIFIED THE PUBLIC IS FAR MORE NOBLE AND GREATER THAN THE ONE WITH A LIFE-TIME OF HIGHEST ACADEMIC LEARNING GIVING EPISODES OF SPEECHES THAT WORTHY OF NONE.
This video is making it rounds on the internet. PJ Thum, for an well educated person, i fail to understand why you stooped so low. Have a look at the opposition WP party members, fortunately none of them are like you. I respect the team led by Pritam Singh. They are credible and respectable. They do not have to stoop so low to grind their axe. The online citizen is hardly the platform if the contents are worth their salt. Singaporeans do not need your take on late founding father LKY. Facts show for themselves. At his funeral, Almost All the ASian countries were represented by their leaders... why? because PAP is such an important party? ASian leaders must suck up to the PAP like Singaporeans are accused of. He EARNED the respect of leaders around the world . Please sacrifice and give up your work overseas, come back to Singapore to rescue all your supporters by standing for office. If you can propel Singapore to greater heights and be remembered for that, why not take the challenge? Singaporeans do need capable talent. You will also earn the respect of not only Singaporeans but the world.
Poor fella.... are you outcast by Singapore to study overseas? Have to find your own money to study overseas... don't know where you get the money from.
forget the methods or ways achieved. question boils down whether or not pap did a good job making singapore a better place?? If the communist party (lim chim siong and devan nair) had won. Could they have made possible in making singapore a meritocratic govt??? see i am not a resident of singapore. But just relaying my views that the very core things which the pap did right gave the previous generation singaporeans a chance to live a better life. could the communist party could have done the same. Remember this was a time when chinese chauvinism was in it's peak. And regarding DR. Thums brief recital of fact. I read the LKY memoirs and when i put in the context when he did spoke those words, the whole meaning just changed(DO read it before coming to unneccesary conclusions). When the whole world currently is facing a sectorial political wave. we may need some leaders belonging to pap..
This video is backstabbing, backstabbing to the tilt, even at the departed, to tarnish the memory of people who served the nation, even Singapore's founding father. Who is accusing others of backstabbing? Singaporeans have spoken at GE15!
LKY did backstab some of his peers.That is the truth. Not denying the good and he and the other founding ministers have done to Singapore, but to ignore the other, bad things that he did would be very biased. He has saw to it to make life hard for some of his political opponents, even though they did not deserve the kind of punishment that they receive. Nobody's perfect. Yes, he gotten lots of love and appreciation after his passing. However blind love to the man is not only inappropriate, but is also unfair to the victims of those that he has harmed. We need to be objective.
+Evelyn Tan Have you read a facebook comment about new citizen voting for PAP? The funny thing is that said citizen do not even know which is PAP logo and had to ask the staff about it. The staff is a PAP supporter but still disgusted by it for letting such people who knows nothing about what they voting for to decide singapore's future.
+Lu5ck PAP's perverse concept of "strengthening the Singapore core" is giving citizenship to foreigners. Isn't that weakening the Singapore core? But they know they can talk/do shit to us & get away with it. We sheep have spoken, all 1.5M of us.
Paull Krugman was correct when he said LKY's remarkable economic performance from the 60's to the 90's is an economic twin of the growth of Stalin's Soviet Union growth achieved purely through the mobilization of resources and cannot be repeat. Well, his son is repeating it. And it will fail too. LKY himself admit in 2010 that "we have grown in the last five years by just importing labour." Some people dismissed Krugman's point but Singapore's dismal productivity performance for the past three decades is a good indication that Krugman is not wrong.
Thanks to Messrs T O C & P J Thum for objectively truthful & hard facts expressed without fear or favour. The younger Singaporeans are relieved you are not & cannot be bought over by ???
wish someone can write an alternative history to this. I do respect for certain things he does, but it is also important to know the other side of the story. It is not pretty on how Singapore get to where it is today, but it is an important lesson for next generation to think about if that is the way to get things done. To think about humanity, empathy and compassion, rather than just power as a mean of success.
Correct, the 38 Oxley Road saga is a good example.
Thank you for this meticulous information in one video. It's here for posterity for generations of Singaporeans.
A salute to TOC and Thum Ping Tjin for this series of videos.
This is should be the history taught to our younger Singaporeans not someone else's "his" story.
Our MSM would keep mum on such things.
sgguy57 TQ.More Updates Please
Dropped the microphone..bravo!!! one of singaporeans' pride is Dr Thum revealing the truth of Singapore History..keep it up
Our history textbooks lied to us.
Who's the government? Think about it! Of course full truths on the textbooks won't be told to you!
Children learn what they live.
So now there you go.
Exile ur enemies
Brilliant! LOVE IT!
GOOD ONE ON THE backstabbing bit! Terrific!!!
Thank you PJ Tham for this. very important and revealing. speech about the backstabbing. of Lee Kuan Yew and PAP ministers .
This part of the history is hidden from Singaporeans and we only hear of the achievements of LKY . ... Please publish this very important
part of history for future generations to read and understand ..... PS also include how LKY detained and imprisoned about 120 people
Dude u have balls...say it as it is. More Singaporeans need to speak up. Hats off and God speed
No, it's not he has balls but us that last the balls when coming to casting votes during ge, this time round, I'm going to set things straight
This needs to be on front page headline news!!!
Great job PJ Thum!!
Vivien what say you??
Sucking thumb now?
Hear Ye ! Hear Ye ! This is the real "hard truth". That is why i keep telling people LKY is a low down snake. Tks for sharing.
A real viper!!!
I used to think likewise of LKY but in the end he proved to be a worthy founder father of Singapore.
When LKY died...people ask if I'm sad ...i say NOT AT ALL, cos thru his implemented 2 child policy....my parents have to pay a fine or abort me.
So if my parents were to abort me....LKY is the murderer.
So am I to be sad the murderer died?
Heck NO.
@@2002ptrlim🤮
@@bobbyng6436 My mum was very upset at the Polyclinic cos the nurse told her so what if turns out to be a boy, there are no school for him where he can get a decent education, mu mom went home crying and told my dad. The next day my dad took my mom to the polyclinc and asked her which nurse spoke nonsense to her. My dad went to the nurse and told her, how can you a nurse discourage my mother and push abortion as an option, you don't children but we like to have children, don't upset my wife anymore with your nonsense talking, that time the nurse was still trying to explain..but but but, my dad said to her, my son education is none of your concern, the govt want to build schools don't build schools also none of your business. Stop scaring my wife and in the end my brother was borned.
This is why we need historian. To provide factual, impartial account. Not propaganda!
Thanks for clarifying. I have been cheated by this guy's 'heroic' act of building a nation for half a year.
Lim Zhi Li Kyle me too
He had done a lot of crazy shit but never once admitted he’d done any wrong. The culling of 6000 cats during SARs .... who’s idea was that, Vivian?
I was nearly culled for being a third child in the 70s.....so am I to be sad or happy when my would be murderer died?
if only more people had seen this channel before 11/09/2015.... :(
Yes! I just found out quite a lot of 'hidden' truths to confirm what I suspect all along.
@@2002ptrlim Sharing it now all over facebook. This is another chance.
its funny how close to 90 percent of sinkies probably do not know this about their beloved dear leader's past......except for the handful of people who stood and opposed against him.......
my god even 80 percent of PG and MG generation who witnessed history itself for decades had no clue what was going on around them.............are sinkies really just a bunch of daft coolies and farmers?iv never seen a population as politically and socially ignorant as sinkies.....not the malaysians,not the thais,not the taiwanese or the hong kies.......except maybe north koreas.......
Have to say I did not know about the good doctor before the DOF hearing. Now I am a fan.
"hello Yu-Fu I love you, come join the joyride" PJ is so adorable ~ thank you! more please ...
Starting lyric of song "Joyride", by Roxette in 1991.
I like the part he said 'Hi U fool'....which is refering to those who voted PAP lol
every singaporean should know this......
👏 bravo PJ! History textbooks in Singapore will be rewritten one day.
Opening the gate of high and mid level jobs to foreigners and offering scholarships to foreign students (and denying our own Singaporean kids) is itself backstabbing to its own true blue-bred Singaporeans born here. I have always liked and respected the late Mr LKY but, however, i never like the fact that he locked up his oppo competitors without trial and only release them in their frail elderly age. To me, that is utter cruelty. Also to that he is actuaĺly breeding Singaporeans not to have a mind to dare to think in the political field by creating FEAR. This in turn will be disastrous to Singapore.
The true history
胜者为王 败者为寇。History is written by the winner. The winner is always the king and the loser is always the invader/bandit.
This is good stuff! Now I know! Thanks for sharing
Thank you for telling us the TRUTH & THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE!!! c'',)
Love it, great channel!
Keep it up on the truth backed up by history "track record" to expose the mistakes, ignorance or lies of those "salesmen" who give "great speech".
The last few seconds were epic =D
This reminded me of the character named Napoleon in the Animal Farm story written by George Orwell.
Sorry Dr Vivian do not do his homework enough, n he is new in the political arena, no backstabbing, who noes, only God noes
Thanks. Enjoying your truthful and accurate reporting.
Politics always in the dark side ..
No sacrifice no gain.
2012 LHL quoted Toh Chin Chye for saying that taxing average Singaporean's CPF is too high? LOL
FYI, everywhere got backstabbing till to date(12-6-2020)only in God we trust
Keep doing what you guys are doing we singaporean CANNOT DIE AT OWN SOIL!!!!!
This should let all Singaporean know of how our gahment works.
Never outshine the master
monster, you mean?
Hey PJ, I applaud your content and insights to issues, especially political ones and am sure you are a big fan of The Daily Show. "Throw it to the web", "moment of zen" are cool term and concept, but pretty sure you can be more original and creative. Ya?
190 dislikes, 190 PAP spies!
228 PAP IBs now.
If this is falsehood, why this youtube channel not taken down.
Why didn't my hero Mr Thum gets sued until pants drop.
Mr Thum....thank you.
Please return to co-lead a coalition opposition party to form an alternative government.
Interesting. I never like politics & history. Now that I have times am kind of enjoy watching it. Thanks.
KARMA KAMELEON.....UNGRATEFUL CROCODILE TEARS. TRUTH!
TUNKU WAS CHEATED.
Superb presentation..! Kudos.!
+Terh CK Leslie Agreed. He has revealed the other side of the coin so that people can make a fair judgment of lop- sided critic by the PAP guy..
Thanks for sharing your Great academic work about the real history of my country. I’m feeling more at peace in knowing the details of vital history which we were denied for decades. 🙏
That's v's way of saying, I'm fake news
Does anti Fake news laws apply to V.Bala?
Opening a knife store in Singapore will tan duah lui LOL
Does that make LKY a megalomaniac?
To Vivian: Ssssssnap yo!
Wow, Singapore's version of Jon Stewart!
loved that show.......too bad he retired
Good history lesson👏🏼on lky and pap...sham should watch this👍
Slithering snake
that russell peters line. ded LMFAO
When the racial riots was raging like fire in Singapore. PAP seek help from the secret societies to help as there racial in the police department. After the episodes of the racial uprising. The Secret Socialty is all rounded up with the award of facing the law as section 55 to jail them without trial.
Nuff said (dropped the mike LOL).
Singapore's Jon Stewart...
Rather mild if u compare wi Stalin
lky is singaporean Stalin lol
WELL DONE TOC! Kudos to you and your team!
SO glad and SO relieved that lee kuan yew is officially dead.
vivian balakrishnan, you do NOT have a conscience. you do NOT have morals.
you are a freaking hypocrite. you are into politics only for the money and glam.
May the Heavens be kind to you on Judgment Day.
Have to share this piece of important information and truths with my journalism and communication studies classmates, including foreign students who believed that "lee kuan yew built Singapore". There is going to be quite a bit of debates!
Really
Yes really,check at Google
A mic.
Can we trust a guy who said" Can we do a Malaysia?
His mentor: Dr M
like the last part, dropped mic XD
PJ, you should have run for elections.
Keep up the good work!! Good facts !!
Fuck the PAP!!!!!
what about going to Malaysia and have very friendly talk follow by loving pictures taken with our biggest enemy dr.m?????
Vivian where are the billions from Youth olympics?volunteers are given shit meals while u enjoyed ur lavish meals.
无毒不丈夫!
Dr Thum...good talk.
SEPUKU Vivian!
+niehiuh Voters can do that today and have Chee Soon Juan of the SDP take over his place in Parliament as he is the challenger in HBT.
why does he start by calling people "you fool" ?? how disrespectful
ok thx lesson learn. lets see how bala stab LHL
lol
No Alcohol I Resigned(NAIR)
Hehe...Mike drop !!
Thumbs up
Salute LKY for those tasks done..If not what Singapore would be..Now.
Pathetic PAP lap dog.
👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
🤣😃😄😅😆😉😊
I
you talk cocktail
About what?
LOL.... history of backstabbing....
PJ THUM, the opening SELF-introduction you had evidently
portrayed in a stunting 'garment' of a highly learned person. With a posture of Professor but later behaved like a 'clown' swan across almost the entire globe returning to homeland with a GREAT AMBITION? Ain't that was a tasteless impression to show how noble you are?
And discredited yourself further giving unintelligent and low-mentality speeches befitting the 'Coffee-shop' talks. Your speeches are NOTHINGNESS but only criticism and smears worthy of classless nerd.
ANYONE WITH A SHORT SPEECH THAT EDIFIED THE PUBLIC IS FAR MORE NOBLE AND GREATER THAN THE ONE WITH A LIFE-TIME OF HIGHEST ACADEMIC LEARNING GIVING EPISODES OF SPEECHES THAT WORTHY OF NONE.
What is the purpose of all this?
To present the full picture.
This video is making it rounds on the internet. PJ Thum, for an well educated person, i fail to understand why you stooped so low. Have a look at the opposition WP party members, fortunately none of them are like you. I respect the team led by Pritam Singh. They are credible and respectable. They do not have to stoop so low to grind their axe. The online citizen is hardly the platform if the contents are worth their salt. Singaporeans do not need your take on late founding father LKY. Facts show for themselves.
At his funeral, Almost All the ASian countries were represented by their leaders... why? because PAP is such an important party? ASian leaders must suck up to the PAP like Singaporeans are accused of. He EARNED the respect of leaders around the world . Please sacrifice and give up your work overseas, come back to Singapore to rescue all your supporters by standing for office. If you can propel Singapore to greater heights and be remembered for that, why not take the challenge? Singaporeans do need capable talent. You will also earn the respect of not only Singaporeans but the world.
Poor fella.... are you outcast by Singapore to study overseas? Have to find your own money to study overseas... don't know where you get the money from.
If what he said is fake, wont the whiter then white party sue his pants off???
forget the methods or ways achieved. question boils down whether or not pap did a good job making singapore a better place?? If the communist party (lim chim siong and devan nair) had won. Could they have made possible in making singapore a meritocratic govt??? see i am not a resident of singapore. But just relaying my views that the very core things which the pap did right gave the previous generation singaporeans a chance to live a better life. could the communist party could have done the same. Remember this was a time when chinese chauvinism was in it's peak. And regarding DR. Thums brief recital of fact. I read the LKY memoirs and when i put in the context when he did spoke those words, the whole meaning just changed(DO read it before coming to unneccesary conclusions). When the whole world currently is facing a sectorial political wave. we may need some leaders belonging to pap..
you are the 3 level of distortion.
A gang of wolf. Another friend of chee. Professional lier.
branded
Better to be a gang of wolves than a skunk leading a a horde of cows and donkeys.
This video is backstabbing, backstabbing to the tilt, even at the departed, to tarnish the memory of people who served the nation, even Singapore's founding father. Who is accusing others of backstabbing? Singaporeans have spoken at GE15!
LKY did backstab some of his peers.That is the truth. Not denying the good and he and the other founding ministers have done to Singapore, but to ignore the other, bad things that he did would be very biased. He has saw to it to make life hard for some of his political opponents, even though they did not deserve the kind of punishment that they receive.
Nobody's perfect. Yes, he gotten lots of love and appreciation after his passing. However blind love to the man is not only inappropriate, but is also unfair to the victims of those that he has harmed. We need to be objective.
+Evelyn Tan Disagree, it is not Singaporeans, it was the 2.5 million new citizen have spoken. Period.
+Evelyn Tan Have you read a facebook comment about new citizen voting for PAP? The funny thing is that said citizen do not even know which is PAP logo and had to ask the staff about it. The staff is a PAP supporter but still disgusted by it for letting such people who knows nothing about what they voting for to decide singapore's future.
+Lu5ck PAP's perverse concept of "strengthening the Singapore core" is giving citizenship to foreigners. Isn't that weakening the Singapore core? But they know they can talk/do shit to us & get away with it. We sheep have spoken, all 1.5M of us.
Paull Krugman was correct when he said LKY's remarkable economic performance from the 60's to the 90's is an economic twin of the growth of Stalin's Soviet Union growth achieved purely through the mobilization of resources and cannot be repeat. Well, his son is repeating it. And it will fail too. LKY himself admit in 2010 that "we have grown in the last five years by just importing labour." Some people dismissed Krugman's point but Singapore's dismal productivity performance for the past three decades is a good indication that Krugman is not wrong.
Sound like a grown up version of Amos Yee... took Singapore government scholarship and forgot the hand who fed him.
Haha another stupid ass hole!!
lky died leave him a lone..what the use of upfront historical n get hyper sensitive
Thanks to Messrs T O C & P J Thum for objectively truthful & hard facts expressed without fear or favour. The younger Singaporeans are relieved you are not & cannot be bought over by ???
The public should know the whole truth.
LKY is a dictator who got away with it, he deserves to be defamed for what he has done to all of us, period . I hope he burns in hell.
譚博士你真是浪費你父母的金錢讀咗個博士回來
I'm you host PJ DUMB Kek
Creepy looking presenter.
Has a very lao lan and sia lan face.
Geh kiang (smart alec)
i hope you be placed under ISA.
Dee
why
So many mistake on your history. Your grand father know better. Ask them before open to public.