LORD OF THE RINGS *THE RETURN OF THE KING* FIRST TIME WATCHING PART 2/2
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No mortal being could've thrown The Ring in the fire willingly. It was just too powerful. Which is why the mercy of Bilbo and Gandalf and Frodo towards Gollum ("Even the very wise cannot see all ends.") was really the only way it could've been done.
In Tolkien's letter 131 summarising the story, Tolkien wrote this -
Also so great was the Ring's power of lust, that anyone
who used it became mastered by it; it was beyond the strength of any will (even [Sauron's] own) to injure it, cast it away, or neglect it.
- so basically the only way to destroy it is by accident.
@@BeresVonSaladir Exactly what I was referring to. I found the collection of Tolkien's letters to be one of the best places to gain insight on much of what he wrote.
Wanted to write the same
Point to note: When Pippin finds Merry on the battlefield, their roles are for once reversed: Pippin will take care of Merry.
The Eowyn/Faramir romance took a longer space of time while they were both recovering in the book.
The parts of the Hobbit trilogy that are actually from the book aren't that bad. The problem is that unless you've read the book you don't know which parts (a LOT) are extra bs they invented to stretch a short children's book into a long trilogy.
Yes but not all szeens are bad that are not in the book for axemple the dol guldur szeens are not from the Hobbit book and this fits in more than the eating dwarf szeen in rivendell/imladris
I've read The Hobbit but have little intention of seeing the films. LotR is a book trilogy and so ought to have been a film trilogy: The Hobbit is a slender book and I don't want to see how much padding they had to put in to make a trilogy of that.
@@franl155 I've only seen bits and pieces of it myself from watching people react to it on here.
@@toodlescae I avoid watching reactions to films I've not seen - lol won't know the story so watching bits won't make any sense! also, if I do watch them later I don't want to be spoiled by remembering having seen a clip of a crucial moment.
Before Frodo woke up and saw Gandalf sitting there, Gandalf was dead as far as he knew. It was more than just a happy reunion.
The Ring's power gets more and more corruptible the closer you get to mount Doom. It's impossible for any mortal to willingly throw it in the lava. In the end, Smeagol was a necessary evil.
some fun facts and famous fan theories:
1,the guy Legolas shot on the corsair ship is Peter Jackson the director
2,It is considered that the ring didn't burn at once,it was still struggling to drag Frodo down with it. When Frodo vanquished it and grabbed Sam's hand,the ring was like "ok Imma outta here" and drew its last breath.
3,Three eagles came to rescue Frodo and Sam and it is considered the 3rd one is for Gollum, or more precisely,Smeagol.
To answer some questions:
- Aragorn rulled for about 120 years, with many successfull decisions and achievemtns. He had a son and few daughters. (For his familly name/bloodline he chose the word 'Telcontar', which meant 'Strider' in Elvish language.)
- Faramir, being last in the line of Gondor's stewards, returned his office to Aragorn for when king returned, steward was no longer needed. Nevertheless, Aragorn declined and kept Faramir as steward of Gondor and appointed him as lord of Ithilien (Area in front of the Mordor mountains, basically where Faramir met Frodo and Sam for the first time and yes, he married Eowyn).
- Gimli and Legolas went together to explore some parts of Middle Earth, Gimli showing Legolas undergrund halls of his kin, Legolas showing Gimli Fangorn and places of his own kin. Eventually, they both sailed to the Undying Lands, Gimli being the first dwarf ever to be bestoved this honor.
-Marry and Pippin lived in the Shire for a long time, both of them having important roles in the Shire. Eventually they returned to Gondor to King Aragorn where they remained by his side until their death.They were burried in the Gondor king's tomb.
- Sam lived a long and succesfull life as Mayor. He had many kids and he eventually passed the red book to his daughter Elleanor and went to Grey Havens, never to return. (sailing to the Undying Lands for he also carried the Ring for a brief period of time)
- Eomer became the king of Rohan and he and Aragorn renewed Cirion's oath (for more details, check the 20 minute long fan movie called "Horn of Gondor" ) and they became true allies, helping each other when they needed.
- After Aragorn's death, heartbroken Arwen left for Lorien where she died at the same place where she and Aragorn bethroed :(
Howard Shore's musical score in this is a modern day masterpiece!
When you really drill down into the music it is just another level of epic!
So glad you enjoyed this series! LOTR is my favorite series of all time. As a big fan of LOTR, I’d say The Hobbit is worth it for the fun. I’d suggest watch it to enjoy the world of Middle Earth and see Bilbo’s story but not trying to compare it to LOTR because trying to compare anything to LOTR is just setting yourself up for disappointment
Eowin and Faramir weren't given that much space in the book either. However, there was more time in the book with them in the healing halls for them to develop a relationship. Time in the movie was a little more compressed. So what happened with them? She doesn't end up ruling Rohan. Eomir ends up as the king of Rohan. King Elessar (Aragorn) gives Ithilien (The land where Faramir patrolled that contained Minas Morgul, his waterfall hideout, etc) to Lard Faramir and Lady Eowin to rule.
The light Frodo had was the light of Earendil. Earendil was Elrond's father (and also Aragorn's ancient ancestor), a half-elf who saved one of the silmarils (jewels that contain the light of creation) and was sent in his ship into the sky to display the silmaril as a star. A portion of this light was contained in this vial that was given to Frodo. It was no small gift.
John Noble who played Denethor, the Steward of Gondor, Boramir and Faramir's father, gets my vote for one of the best actors. You hate the guy - at least the character. John Noble is actually a really decent fellow, so I would recommend against punching him in the street. Rather, shake his hand and tell him what a great job he did in bringing Denethor to life.
Next Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
I consider the two getting together would be a time a healing for them both Faramir lost his only family, and she lost her uncle. They both could feel compassion for each other so something COULD grow between them.
Saruman's death is handled quite a bit differently in the books.
And SOOO much BETTER
@@hannahrl47 Saruman's entire story is handled so much better -- or at least it was the one I first read about. (That's a teaser for those who might be thinking of reading the books.)
It is the best saga ever made ..and this movie is the best one ..it got nominated for 11 Oscars and won 11 .. in the words of Steven Spielberg ''a clean sweep'' .. just epic
something you don't see is that Denethor has a Palantir which put him in contact with Sauron who's been poisoning his mind for years. his despair is the result of all that manipulation.
you'll get a very different version of Saruman's death in the books. it comes much nearer to the end & it's much more involved, basically Yet Another Ending to the saga which seems to upset a lot of people so it got left off. won't say more, don't want to spoil the reading for you. which you're already late to start by the way.
Eowyn and Faramir were together in the, well, the hospital, for many months. Also, she never really loved Aragorn: She loved what he represented. Adventure, mystery, strength,... Aragorn knew it and deep down she knew it too.
this is why I enjoy watching movie reaction videos, especially about lotr. It's so wonderful to see someone else finding the beauty of Tolkien's world. To see the same glimmer of fascination in your eyes that I also carry inside me. Thank you for reacting and uploading these videos for me to enjoy.
I think we all had the same journey of first sort of understanding Gollum and then ending up hating him :D
A lot of people say The Hobbit movies aren't that good, and I agree they have some issues, but overall I think they are worth checking out. There's lots of backstories for familiar characters and more information about Middle Earth. I still enjoy watching them every now and then, even if they aren't life-changing like Lord of The Rings. The books are another unique reading experience, but they aren't the lightest reading. Again, I suggest you check out everything and see if it's something you want to devote your time on
You wanted to kill Smeagol? You seem to be infected by the ring. 😄 Don't forget that nobody in middleearth had the strength to destroy the ring without his (accidently) help.
Peter Jackson did a great job and I love these movies. But to read the books is another level, almost a "never-come-back-journey" - it's the "boss-fight"!
Sure you'll enjoy it.
Aragorn & Eowyn was Jackson meddling with the text. Eowynh & Faramir fell in love recovering in Gondor's House of Healing after the War.
so this is my own idea, not canon by any means. but I like to think that the star Frodo & Sam see from Mordor is Eärendil, originally one of the Silmarils placed into the sky bu the Valar after it was recovered from Morgoth. it's the light of Eärendil that's caught in Galadriel's Phial she gave to Frodo.
I highly recommend The Silmarillion, especially the audiobook.
It explains the creation of this world and the first age, it’s fascinating!
Eowyn did not loved Aragorn but what he represented. She and Faramir are great together as after the war they have a similar mind set: is better to be a creator than a destroyer, and love the sword not for what ir represents, but for what it defends. Tolkien really showed his thoughts on war AND a being a great person doesn't mean being a great warrior. PERFECT COUPLE XD
The Eowyn/Faramir scenes were part of the extended version, and yes they seemed a bit rushed. But in the book there was a much longer time elapsed to allow their love to evolve. Denethor had a Palantir, according to the book, and was partially driven mad by Sauron who controlled the ball from that end. The Hobbit is more than half as good, very very worth watching!
17:49 First of all, saying that a hobbit jumping into the volcano would've been more "realistic" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Second of all, Tolkien has a very clear and real message here: no one person can just destroy the evil. It took the combined good of all the times people showed Gollum mercy, often without him even deserving it, that ultimately destroys the ring. One person doesn't destroy evil, us being good people does.
I feel like I've always subliminally felt this, but I've never seen it put into words so well. Thank you.
@@johnbarrett6835 No worries, I didn't get it as well until someone explained it to me.
A point to note: Theoden and Denethor are antitheses of each other, even in the sounds of their names.
There is a whole side story in the book about how Saruman's life ended. Indeed, in the process, all this is greatly curtailed, in order to at least slightly reduce the timing.
In the books, Denathor is still favoring one son over the other, but it is not as pronounced. In the book this is partially explained as when Faramir was born, his birth resulted in or weakened his mother and she died soon after his birth, and that was a stone between them. Faramir is a much more noble character in the books. He is never tempted by the ring, because he see's that no good can come from it. While he is a warrior, he is also a Scholar, and if he had his choice, that is what he would be. He is well respected, and his sheer will alone can help the soldiers of Gondor stay together on fighting withdraws, when he falls to the arrow, the men break in panic, until Gandalf and the relief riders from the city ride out. The Battle for Minis Tirith is so much more detailed (tactically) in the books even though much of individual fighting is left to the imagination.
I do hate the Gandalf staff being broken by the witch King. In the book, he is just a sorcerer king with a ring of power, he is no match for Gandalf who is an immortal of the same rank as Sauron, even though less powerful than the dark lord. It is the rescue of Faramir that prevents Gandolf from confronting the witch king.
I would recommend you read the books (or listen on Audible). There are also some great CZcams channels that dive deeply into the lore and even due battle recreations.
Eowyn and Faramir are supposed to be on the nursery for many days. So they fall in love in that long time recovering from their injuries.
the White Tree of Gondor came from a fruit of Nimloth the Fair, the White Tree of Numenor before Numenor was destroyed. which itself came as a gift from an island of Elves called Tol Eressëa way back in the First Age. Deep history.
Regarding the movie-watchers adage: "They're not dead until you see the body": Sometimes not even when you do see the body (Faramir, Aragorn, Frodo).
Gollum/Smeagol is the best character in my opinion. Between him and the Hobbits, they represent all of us, or the "everyman". They are an example of how "insignificant" people can affect their world for better or worse.
I love how you laughed when you saw Aragorn going in for the kiss with his toungue and all! 😂 Also, the way you said tz-tz-tz, it made me think you're from Balkan! Love your reactions!
Frodo is the antagonist of the story but not the hero. The hero is Sam a common everyday man who loved.
Good Reaction. As far as The Hobbit movie is concerned I think you should give it a try after waiting a while. Peter Jackson got the rights to it after some changes in different Directors and Producers kind of at the last minute. As a result, he didn't have the time to prepare as I think he would have wanted to. It is not LOTR's but it is still a good enough trilogy and gives you a lot of backstory concerning Bilbo, the Ring, and especially the Dwarves. A good reprise with many of the same actors and other good ones. Generally speaking, I really enjoyed it. As I said just see it as it is without too much comparing it to LOTR's and I think you might really enjoy it. It is in my opinion definitely NOT a bad movie. Martin Freeman is really great playing the young Bilbo. Cheers.
Great to share this journey with you - these movies are unsurpassed, in my opinion, and it's always good to see someone new enjoy them so much. Loved hearing your thoughts and appreciation at the end, too.
Absolutely love your reactions, quite surprised not more ppl watch your stuff.
I agree this trilogy is my fave of all time, it ticks all the boxes.
Every time you watch it you'll pick up on more things, that you may have not noticed the previous time.
The books are a MUST read, even if you do it audio style, please read them.
As for The Hobbit...they're good movies, so long as you DO NOT compare them to LOTR.
They're worth watching, I don't want spoil anything, but there are many wonderful scenes/characters worth seeing.
I look forward to seeing your reactions to it as well as other movies.
Thank you for uploading great content😁
There is a drawing in that moment of the spider at an angle above Frodo's head that the movie captures that picture perfectly in that one moment
When Frodo puts on the ring you can practically hear the OH Shit from Sauron. He knows his peril at that point and has to rely solely on the corrupting power of the ring .
Frodo is the MVP. He had the most evil thing, essentially the soul of satan, with him for almost a year. He lost all that makes himself, but still continued the mission while knowing it was the end of him. He volunteered to take the ring to save the others, while already knowing at that point what the ring does to you. Sam protected his best friend courageously, but that's much easier fight.
Continuing suicide mission that doesn't have large odds, except the certainty of death, while being tempted with the power, that is the most heroic thing you could do.
The Hobbit movies aren't as epic but it's fun to go back into that world again with some of the same characters, and for that reason, it's definitely worth a view.
Next one is the prequel The Hobbit. Which is Bilbo's story.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but because you are a vocal coach, did you know Liv Tyler sung the song in the House of Healing scene (Where Eowyn and Faramir meet)
Some people like the Hobbit trilogy by Peter Jackson, but it feels to me like there was a lot of studio interference, like the execs demanded a love story, plots and characters that weren't in the original text be shoved in to make it into an over-stuffed turkey.
The animated Rankin-Bass version from 1977 is much closer to the spirit of the original text, IMO.
Yes! Please watch "The Hobbit"! It's a very good trilogy also, but not nearly as epic.
His statement about "even if it's half as good then I'll watch it" applies pretty well. It's about half as good.
Lots of shenanigans involved with it that you didn't see in LOTR, from the forced padding to stretch it to 3 long movies to the diversity actors (and made-up characters) to the overuse of bad CG, the modern Hollywood ugliness really rears its head.
Still worth watching once just to say you did.
Imagine seeing this in the theater and having to WAIT for a year between each one!
Good to know, when Legolas shot the arrow that killed the corsair pirate the guy was actually Peter Jackson in a cameo part.
You are a great reacter!! You will love the books. Tolkien wasn't aiming for "realism" in a world of elves, dwarves, etc. But the essence of human nature he captured - the temptation of power, nobility and virtue, love and proto-love, etc etc. We are captured because on some level it is very real. Look at current events in Ukraine, heroism is real.
Great reaction to a great movie
Hi. I enjoyed your reactions.
I think Boromir and Smeagal were not bad people, and didn't make the choice to be bad.
They were every weak minded, and the ring took easy control of their minds.
The closer the ring got to the fire of Mt doom. The more desperate and powerful it became. It had the power to convince Smeagal back into Gollum and attack Frodo.
The ring was always turning Smeagal into Gollum.
I don't think Smeagal made that choice. The ring was getting desperate. And controlled him to trying to stop Frodo. At any cost.
Only my opinion. 👍
This was a spectacular & fantastic journey to follow alongside, you with! Hat's off, sir- VERY well done 👍🤠👍 excellent reaction!!! 🙏🙏
I think it might be wise not to watch the Hobbit movies right away but wait... i dont know, 2 or three months atleast :)
We've waited about 10 years in real time to return to a Middle-Earth and it was worth the wait for the feeling of seeing Middle-Earth once again, still portraied the same way (although with a LOT more CGI) and still directed by PJ.
What Im trying to say, is that if you wait with the hobbit movies a bit, you will experience this amazing feeling of calm and happiness when you hear the shire music again after all the time, if you would watch it right away, the feeling would not be here... :)
People call Hobbit movies bad but I dont really think they are, though they are without a doubt far worse then LotR. There is overuse of CGI, the story is more fun-based (well, it was originally a tale for young kids after all...) and many things that were not in the books (well... the book had like... 300 pages? and they made three 2 hours movies out of it..?). But it's worth watching, just don't expected the same amount of emotions as you had with LotR :)
by the way, @Cinema With H , would you like to know a bit more informations about the characters after the books/trilogy? I mean, how they died, how they lived up their lives, and so on? :)
Towards the end you said it would have been more realistic if some of the main characters didn’t make it. And that would be more realistic for a modern tale. But Tolkien was wanting to write an epic saga of the type that he was inspired by. So in that regards I don’t think it was unrealistic for his heroes to prevail against all odds. Gollum was essential to the story as no one could have willingly stood at the edge of Mount Doom and cast the Ring into the volcano. And as Gandalf said early on, he felt that Gollum had a part to play. As important aspect of the story is showing mercy. As it was the mercy of both Bilbo and Frodo that resulted in Gollum being there at the right moment. Gandalf cautioned Frodo not to be too quick to deal out death and judgment, as some who die deserve life. So much of this was influenced by Tolkien’s own experience with war. I was surprised that you skipped over the ending scenes with Frodo selling off with Gandalf and the elves. In this respect Frodo is similar to someone with PTSD. He was too wounded, both physically and mentally by his experiences on the journey, and with the ring. As he tells Sam, they set out to save the Shire. But he was unable to enjoy the results of that victory. So he was sailing off to the Undying Lands, where he could find peace and healing. Lots of first time viewers, especially if this is your introduction to the story, are confused by Frodo’s departure at the end.
Yes, Faramir and Éowyn's love story is shown too fast, but that's not that important for the movie -Peter Jackson just didn't want to extend the running time even further, I guess. There's a lot more to the books than the movie shows, and this love story too described in more detail.
This edit did seem a little rushed and missed some key scenes & emotional beats. Enjoyed it though. Nice work.
"this movie ruined all other movies for me" As far as a journey, yes I agree so much. for solo films though to me the movie that ruins others is shawshank.
I haven't seen any comments about this and if you did address it and I missed it, sorry - you've referred to Elrond as Arwen's brother a few times, he's actually her father
Jackson made the film for a wider audience so that the audience would not get bored. In the book, on the contrary, everything is described in too much detail, so that a person who rarely reads may not master it at all.Perhaps the book is too monumental to show on the screen all the events that took place there. Then the film would stretch for 30 hours
I'm going to give you a like because you said is the best movie ever, which it is, however I wish you edited this movie into 3 parts to enjoy your reactions a bit better.
If you enjoy sci-fi as much as you like fantasy, consider checking out Dune. Similar to how Tolkien has significantly influenced modern fantasy, Frank Herbert did the same for science fiction, even Star Wars in small ways.
A sublime movie trilogy. Each movie was nominated for Best Picture the year it was released and The Return Of The King deserved to win it. Just shows it’s that good!
Oscars and awards are absolutely BS. I would say LOTR deserved the best picture every year and quite easily. Stanley Kubrick, the best director of all time if asked from the directors themselves, never got any oscars. Rarely was even nominated.
We should realize that awards are just some political jerks playing their games and not usually knowing what the phuck they are talking about. Especially now you need to be diverse, with LBQTFU representation and all the shit like that to even be able to be nominated by the rules of Oscars. The faster people realize that Hollywood is dead, and awards are meaningless shite, the faster we can recover and get some actually good art.
There is not a snowball's chance that LOTR could have been made today. Even if some rich billionaire would finance it, not one studio would take it and most movie theaters would reject it. Amazon's satanic reversal of LOTR is what they want.
Great reaction. Thanks
Great Trilogy! Perhaps even the best I agree
Great reaction!
Books are better, but Peter Jackson did amazing work to get so close.
I've read the books many times and love the original theatrical versions of the movies. The extended versions are fun for the enthusiast, but I feel they are inferior. Many of the scenes that were cut were not faithful to the books, and I feel the true "masterpiece" is the theatrical versions of the movies. For example in the books Saruman survived by hiding in his tower and after destroying the ring, the hobbits come home to find he has corrupted the Shire. The way he falls off the tower in the second movie is cheap and doesn't fit the tone of the rest of the movie. There are many scenes like this that were omitted from the theatrical versions for good reasons. (Edit: The skull avalanche when they are recruiting the undead army is another example of a scene that I feel cheapens the rest of the movie.)
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Sam never went away in the book.
This reaction felt way more rushed than the others. Probably because of copyright, but still kind of a letdown.
They left out so much from the book, and they had to crowbar some stuff in even so. The book is well worth a read, when you have a couple of months to spare!
The lust and greed inspired by the ring was its undoing. All because of pity for a soul twisted by evil.
The Tolkien fix is not done yet...Hobbit films to follow. Enjoy!
wow you ruined the whole charge of rohan scene...
Thanks for your great reaction!
And no the Hobbit movies are garbage and not worth watching. I would say they’re less than 10% as good as LOTR.
I'd say, skip the Hobbit movies. They don't even come close to the LotR movies. The Hobbit is a wonderful book, but it is tonally quite different. It's a relatively simple adventure story, aimed at children. To stretch it out to 3 movies, a lot of fluff and nonsense was added.
He didn't have much choice. The studio suits insisted it be a trilogy. Or, as Tolkien said, the suits "delved too greedily and too deep."
Can't wait
Yes the book is much better, no the hobbit movies aren't worth it imho, they're plain bad for how I see it.
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They are chanting "DAAAAYYYYYY!!!" Not dead. I had to look at the sub titles for that
Hey if you want to read the books I recommend you to listen to audiobooks by phill dragash.
Thank me later 😉
Pfffff attaque of rohirim 3 secondes!!!! I really dont understand you
the Hobbit films are overdone, again more meddling by Jackson & the studio. he invents another love story, there's the usual amount of silly implausible action sequences etc. oh & a whole assault by the White Council against the Witch King's stronghold before Saruman turned that absolutely happened but has no text in the Hobbit for, was another meddling insertion. unlike the LOTR films some of the Hobbit movies do drag a bit. but still & all it's largely faithful & enjoyable.
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Sorry, but while this is a great trilogy, but still Star Wars is the best trilogy. The opening movie is a simple action story with great characters but the second film (Empire Strikes Back) is nearly flawless. It carries the story created in the first film--even though the first film was never intended to have a sequel, so is not like LOTR in that way, and the story in the second film was not even written by the same man--excellently. Making the bad guy more dangerous than he was in the first film, and making the good guy more heroic. The third film wraps up the story line in a satisfying way. I should mention, however, if you watch Empire and like the writing, the man who wrote it also---two years later--wrote and directed a film based on his own story--Body Heat (1981)--and IF you like sexy women, sweaty locations and a murder mystery story like no other be sure to watch it.