Bambu Lab Initial Review - P1P print farm - X1 Carbon
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- 3 Months in. 9 printers, running 24/7. (Printers bought with my own money).
Sorry for being heavy handed on Ender 3's my friends. I should be grateful to them because they helped me start and I wouldn't be where I am today without them.
My website: martinsonmanufacturing.com/
0:00 Intro
1:45 First Impressions
4:17 Selling Points
5:44 TRUE Bed Leveling
7:51 User Experience
9:49 The Biggest Unknown
10:36 Slicer
13:34 Issues
14:33 My Complaints
16:40 Concluding Thoughts
18:15 Bright Future - Jak na to + styl
Running a X1 and P1P for my business too. They each have over 1,200 hours of printing. I came from an Ender also so couldn’t agree with this all more.
Would you recommend this for a commercial business?
How are you organizing your files? I have many models all of which are composed of separate parts. On my past printers, I ran klipper/octoprint and had all the gcodes under each product's folders. Now it doesn't seem like I can do this with a P1P which I frankly pretty ridiculous.
I love how honest and humble you are about how you arrived at your opinion. Great to watch.
I agree 100%. And thank you for this video.
I've been 3d printing for quite a few years now. And unfortunately the 3d printing community is full of people that think because they had to suffer through constant maintenance, tracking down issues and knowing every single mm of their printers that everyone else should have to do that. I can't tell you how many people ask about getting a Bambu Lab printer and people tell them to get an Ender 3 or Prusa instead so they better understand how they work. Who cares? The community doesn't need gatekeepers. I got into 3d printing early and I have spent more time fixing issues with my 3d printers than actually printing. Actually, I had given up on the hobby for 2 years because I was just over having to calibrate my printers all the time. Then Bambu Lab came along. And I now love 3d printing again. I will never go back to the Prusa style bed-slinger printers again. I suffered through years of using flaky printers and it would be incredibly arrogant of me to wish that on anyone else. And I'm tired of people complaining about Bambu Lab not being open source. That's a good thing. That's what makes these printers so good.
You hit every single benefit I've seen since getting my p1p in Janurary. On both the business side and school side of things, it's been great in terms of print quality and reliability. Absolute workhorse. I have a farm of 11 ender 3s and they were great at first. Really allowed me expand my capacity cheaply. But the maintenance is a headache and it has definitely caused stagnation in product development. I was skeptical at first, but the past three months have shown me the p1p solves every problem I've had and I just can't see myself using my ender 3s again. The p1p has been handling everything with crazy good quality and workflow improvement.
100%. My experience exactly.
You will never see this is a decent corporation or school, they’re Handy app is cloud based and it’s known for not being secure.
@nunovicente34 you're only slightly correct. First of all, you definitely will see this in schools at one point. I can't vouch for big companies bc sure some might be have ITAR restriction concerns but a vast majority of people really don't care. Not to mention you can take it off the cloud and go WLAN. At the end of the day it is marketed as just a desktop printer, not industrial grade. But it's clear from the video and others that everyday makers AND small businesses are already benefiting from it.
From a ME student perspective, it def is the real deal. Not to say klipper on an e3 isnt either but the ability to reprint iteration after iteration in one day out the box is an crazy good benefit. Hate to sound like a Bambu fan boy, but its been great so far
@Teangelo Rayner exactly my thoughts, I was just about to write "you hit every point I always tell people about my BambuLab X1 Carbon". I just do some small batch stuff here and there on the side, haven't gone to any of your lengths in an actual print farm....yet. I still have yet to hit that one or few products that no one else has that can take off.
@@nunovicente34 you will be amazed at the number unsecure cloud based saas that enterprises use. Heck, there are even MSPs that use cloud saas password lockers stored on servers in another country
When I see a Martinson Manufacturing video, I open the video, hit thumbs up so I don't forget, then watch it.
I appreciate the business owner first, CZcams second perspective. It feels more honest. Keep making stuff like this.
Me too!!
Thanks man, I appreciate that.
I really enjoy how nonchalant your approach to the pros and cons on these printers are. I've heard people talk about these, and how the d pad is a deal breaker, or because the filament sits on the back it's a deal breaker, but hearing you talk about it really puts into perspective how minor these inconveniences are, and how as a printer they reach towards the high end for what their price point and capabilities are.
I have gone from Ender Pro 3 to X1 Carbon and its a massive leap forward. I will always be grateful to the Ender 3 as it opened a whole new world, just like my ZX Spectrum back in the day but time waits for no one and to be able to print reliably and stress free is the future.
Been waiting for this video! I just unboxed mine a little over an hour ago. As usual a fantastic job Joe! I can't thank you enough
Dude, congrats man! Such great machines!
Mine is arriving today, too. I can’t wait
Thanks for this video. Really appreciate it. Helped me decide on actually trying one of these. I totally get what you said about having confidence in them and now offering a print service.
Feels like you we're speaking directly to me. Business with 6 Ender 3's . I've had my first P1p for a week and it's changing my life. Thank you for the video.
That’s awesome! I actually just got 2 X1 Carbons and am starting a business with them. Your videos have motivated me a lot also.
Awesome to hear man!
I'm curious what you plan to do with the printers. May I reach you somewhere?
@@vladfr My goal is to manufacture parts for either people or businesses. I have been unsuccessful in finding any work so far. Do you know of any opportunities? If so do you have an email address or other way to contact you?
@@GameTech3D good luck many wishes. Very difficult to start a business with 3d printing
Yep!! As a shop owner who went from 60 Ender 3s/CR10s. It's absolutely incredible running the shop with 6 Bambus instead. And to think I almost didn't buy one. It's a scary thought that I'd still be running a print farm just with Ender 3s.
Did you get the x1 carbon or the p1p??
@@kzukez I originally bought the X1C carbon, but sold it for a few hundred dollar profit and got 5 P1Ps. I only print with PLA so it didn't make sense to pay a lot more for a nicer looking screen, etc.
Makes sense! I just order a p1p!
@@kzukez awesome!! you're going to love it! just make sure to check that the bed is level upon arrival =) people have been getting bent beds here and there
@@Sportdue55 How do you check that?
Great review, and thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights. I especially appreciate the user centric or human centric perspective you provide. This helped in tipping the scale over for me towards the confidence in which one to get.
Thanks for the video review. I was considering one of these, now I've decided! Looks and sounds great!
Thank you! Now I’m even more excited for my Carbon to arrive tomorrow
Hey Joe, I just watched your video and it was very helpful (thumbs up given). I also checked out your website and was like, "Wow, those window vents are pretty cool!" I work in the appliance repair industry and will definitely be recommending your product to anyone in need. Thanks!!!
Have been running 6 P1Ps with my business adding 1-3 a month with my other printers collecting dust. Scaling has been way easier with the bambu ecosystem. Working on automated part removal on the P1P using a 45-degree amp stand and $10 Garolite(g10) bed, so far so good if getting temps down enough to release easily.
Don't forget to grab the free Camera/Light for any P1P that didn't come with them originally. I think you get free shipping for them with $35+ orders so I reimbursed all of my light/cameras with a few replacement hot-ends.
Keep up the great videos, your original farm tour video was a big inspiration on how I structured my setup, especially using the taller storage cabinets to house the printers.
Great video review! One day I will get an X1, Thanks so much for sharing with us!!!!
Great video! I am receiving my first one tomorrow for my startup!
Thank you, for this video about these printers. Now is the time to buy one. Great job...
Thank You for your video. I also have the X1C with AMS. I have printed more in a month than I had during the last 3 years with my AnyCubic Mega X. I can print almost anything now. It has brought the fun back into my hobby. Surely it costs more, but with far less frustration and cheaper cost to run ( less wasted time and filament ) Enjoy
I’m with you 100%. It brought the fun back for me too. Forgot to mention that in the video.
I bought x1c few days ago, as first printer, with intention to sell own design parts.
And this was 10/10 shot, I already test 6 different filaments, print bunch of stuff, without issue. I’m amazed with this printer.
Thank you, very interesting and helpful. Being able to print a borg cube styled box for the p1p is also a bonus if you are a startrek fan.
This sold me on the P1P after years of being pretty content with the shortcomings of a pair of ender 5’s. Thanks for the info!
Thank you so much for sharing! I have the same problem with bed leveling on the MK3s+. When my X1 shows up next week, my Prusa will be for engineering only.
Great video! I'm just beginning month 3 of my 3D printing business and, like you, I started with one Ender 3. The design, slice, setup, print, adjust cycle were just killing me, so I got a second Ender 3. During the second month, I hit a production crunch and started looking into how to automate a farm of Ender 3's. When you start with an E3, you do a lot of searching for E3 tips, tricks and mods, so the X1C wasn't even on my radar. I asked a friend what his printer was, because he sent me a video of him printing, at speeds that made my jaw drop.
My X1C arrives early next week and I can't wait to be able to bring some new products to market, for the growth of my fledgling business.
I want to thank you personally. Your print farm tour video was a big help to me, and I'm about to watch your "If I could start over" video now. Best of luck and God bless!
Thanks man, I appreciate that. Best wishes to you with your business!
I’ve owned over 10 printers, this Bambu is something from another planet! Even my corexy Voron is not half as fluid or fast as my x1! Future proof piece of equipment!
I've been following you from Argentina for some time, and I must say you're doing an incredible job. This video is no exception. Thank you for sharing your experience. When you get the chance, could you possibly give us a tour of your Bambu Lab farm? It must be quite a sight to see it in operation.
I just purchased a Carbon today and im super excited to print more. I had the same problem an Ender 3 that spent more time being fixed/adjusted than it did printing items. It ended up sitting for about 6 months and I decided to get rid of it when I found out about the Bambu Lab printers. Very excited for the future!
Lol I hate my Ender. I swear I have it adjusted perfectly and it still printed lopsided.
@@MrUniqbro what, my ender 3 prints perfectly
@@MrUniqhopefully you get it working again
Thanks for the update!!
I like your honesty👍🏼
Amazing review, so honest and straightforward from someone who makes their living with this equipment. I was on the fence as they are so new, but your review tipped me over the fence. I have a MK3 as well and it has been a great machine. But I need something new and I’m going to order one today. I think I’ll hit the Carbon first cuz of the Lidar levelling. Thanks again!
I was in the same boat.
I have a MK3S+ and Ender.
Since getting my Prusa, I barely use my Ender, but I'm betting my Ender will be a paperweight once my X1C comes in this week.
great video, answered many questions, thanks!
Great video man, subbed.
I've spent the last few years dialing in and upgrading my Creality printers (CR10s Pro, Ender 3, Ender 5). A couple of weeks ago, I was bragging about the print quality of my V.1 CR10s Pro with all the upgrades I've done over the years.
Last week, I got the P1P just to see what all the hype was about. First print, I thought it was broken because it was printing so fast. The result was better quality than I could ever hope to pull out of my Creality printers, and it did it in 1/4 the time. I can't wait to see what the next leap forward brings. Getting closer and closer to Star Trek Replicators. lol
Great review, really appreciate it. I've had my P1P for 3 weeks, and it has been running non stop. I love pulling one plate out, and throwing another on. As far as upgraded models in the future, these guys are from DJI. They are famous for groundbreaking drones, and then they come out with another that blows the previous ones away, even though you may have thought that wasn't possible. I look for bigger and better things from this company!
People seem to miss what Bambu has actually delivered. It's still not as fast as a voron. It's just incredibly cheap, that's what changed. And it's possible they are selling them at loss to grab market share and then increase the price of their proprietary parts.
DJI is on the verge of being banned for spying.
It all makes sense now about Bambu's cloud.
I'm yet to unbox my carbon because I need to workout some privacy issues and workarounds first.
@@dangerous8333 literally if you’re concerned just block it’s MAC address on your wifi and run WLAN/from sd.
Great video, I went from a similar path. Ender 3, to mk3s+ to Bambu X1CC. I am at well over 2200hrs printing since Aug and no other printer touches it.
While the p1p is nice there is something special about seeing your print through the handy app and control the printer is a godsend. (X1C)
Completely agree! Thanks for sharing Ashley!
Now p1p has integrated cam too!
@@LuscoBrusco I saw that BL has been sending coupons for those who ordered P1P after the early pre-sales. The camera on the p1p (720p)isn't the same as the X1(1080p). It is lower resolution and almost like a slide show but it gets the job done for checking on a print.
*totally not a plug for my channel* but on my channel you can see what the X1 series cameras are capable of.
I will definitely have a look! Thanks!
The camera is so popular Bambu is now including it with the p1p
Thank you for this great review, from the perspective of an entrepreneur running a small print farm, which is exactly what I needed to see. I use FreeCAD to design parts for my small business. I generally don't bother switching from TPU when I design parts (almost every day!) for use around the house and tinkering on my mini truck or adventure motorcycle. I started by building an Ordbot Hadron, then had six QIDI Tech I printers but they were a maintenance nightmare and QIDI went out of their way to make parts proprietary (even to the point of soldering the headers on the opposite side of the industry standard stepper motor driver boards to reverse the pinout - grrrrrr) to force me to buy their proprietary parts, which they discontinued a year later. I'm currently using the Sovol SV01 which is much more reliable and uses generic and readily available parts, but I'm looking to upgrade as I expand the business.
I'm a bit concerned with the proprietary parts on the Bambu, but the part prices seem reasonable and they seem well designed and reliable.
I hate the awkward microSD card on the SV01, which takes the "rapid" out of rapid prototyping. Can I print to the Bambu over my LAN or do I need to use Bambu's cloud? Why should I upload my designs to their website? I wouldn't mind printing from a flash card if it was easier than a microSD card in a difficult location. A front panel USB thumb drive would be almost as convenient for me as WiFi printing. My prototype 3D printer is next to my computer, and I can easily maintain card images and swap all the cards on the print farm at once when I add a new product.
Do you use Bambu filament, or generic filament?
Do you have any issues with degradation of the build plate surface? I print TPU directly on textured glass and turnaround is fast and easy - pluck off the part, peel off the nozzle priming skirt, and use tweezers to remove the dribbled material off the nozzle. No glue stick or other build plate bonding agent. High durometer TPU with 3-4 outer layers makes a solid part that is very impact resistant and I can print thinner features that bend for live hinges, etc.
Do I need to use the Bambu slicer? I like the Prusa slicer but I'm not married to it, and apparently the Bambu slicer or OctoSlicer derivative is similar because they are derived from Prusa Slicer that's derived from Cura slicer.
I've been printing for a while now and I'm considering opening up a 3d printing service business, I'm really inclined to get this and as business grows keep adding. I love moding printers due to my background in electronics so I ges bamboo for business and ratrigs and vorons to have fun with. Awesome vid, wishing you continue success in your business!
Very impressive, and i hear you My CR10 has been a love/hate relationship for many years (my cheaper flashforge never gave me so much issues) and the X1C has been refreshing to me. I also have a Elegoo Neptune which works great as well
Still no issues with the Neptune? I'm torn between the Neptune 4 Pro, M5C, and P1p as my first printer. I want the P1S with AMS, but it's hard to justify the price.
@@84Eraursls Yes i have a Neptune 3 and Neptune 3 Max and never have had issues. Elegoo makes solid machines (their resin machines are among the best) at affordable prices. I would say if you have funds later on you could always upgrade then to a bambu printer
Thanks for this video. This helped me make my decision.
3:16 - 3:36
This is exactly the experience I had in my first week of owning an X1 carbon. I haven't touched my ender 3 since I got the X1, it has a layer of dust now.
Same with my mk3 which i've had for 4 years. I originally planned to use it along with my X1C but I was so blown away by how good it was I immediately sold my mk3 and started a fund for another X1C.
I bought the Bambu A1 for my first printer and Im so glad I did because I just wanted to set it up and print without messing with it. I'm extremely satisfied with my purchase.
I've been using a cheap printer and I had to fiddle with settings and failures all the time. At some point I got tired and I got an X1. Man, I understand when you say that you love it. It is mind bending how good it is. I don't even know what a fail print is anymore.
great insights, thank you for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m having that effect as well with my CR10, I love microswiss, I upgraded both my printers. I do get the loosening of the head. Prototyping is important for me at this stage. Bambu seems to be the solution for me. Thanks for your video.
Now have 3 X1C's and three more AMS's coming this week. I also have Snapmaker F350 I got a month before my first X1C that's been collecting dust for the past 4 months. The dual extruder option I got with the F350 finally just arrived and I'm going to play around with it to see how capable it it, but in reality I wished I'd of skipped the Snapmaker and got right into the Bambu's first. But I'm so blown away at how perfectly parts come out in the Bambu's, especially in ASA and PETG. And so freaking fast.
Hi. So I came for a Cetus Mk2 printer, many people don't know this printer I know, but I bought it in 2016 and it came with WiFi printing and a custom slicer, that made the printer easy to use. This printer was bullet proof I have never even tightened a screw or replaced any other part other than the nozzle. So I have never dealt with many of the issues other 3D printer people had to deal with, I focused on CAD (Fusion 360 in my case) and just send it to the printer, I never ever wanted to tinker with a printer, I am busy starting an electronics company. I knew I needed a new printer Cetus/TierTime was not so much what I wanted. I needed a bigger newer printer but I wanted the same ease of use, and after some time of searching here comes the BambuLab. I was ready to grudgingly spend $1500 to buy the X1 carbon, then the P1P came out and I pulled the trigger. I love the experience all of it, the speed the ease of use the AMS. It ticks all the boxes and more. Love the P1P and you hit the nail on the head, you just want to print, not fiddle, when running a business you don't want that extra stress.
not a regular viewer but after watching i remember seing you do a tour of your old ender3 farm the one in the closet in a basement if i remember right. anyway its nice to get some kind of follow up about how your business is doing and why you did a upgrade to the printfarm
Same here I'm in love with these printers. Came from an ender3 as well though. Make as many videos on this printer as you can it'll pull a lot of attention to your channel get a photo with all of them in it for your next thumbnail.
I really like the hussle of 3d printing business. Buying more machines to print more to buy more machines to print even more.
I myself bought the X1. Was initially going to buy a Mk3 but saw this and what sold me was the speed and that I didn't have to tinker with it other than learn how to print as it's my first 3D printer. No real complaints. From what I've seen on the facebook groups, Bambu keeps improving the product and sending them out rather than making a final version.
I have an old Ender 3 Pro V1. I wanted to upgrade so I can print parts for a CNC router im working on. Been researching for weeks. Found so many different brands to learn about. Came down to the Prusa MK4 and the P1P. Just ordered the P1P!
I have a 71 dodge dart that I rebuilt as a young teenager, I'm now 19 and I drive it daily, Awesome car, and you should def make a video for it when you finish it :). anyways absolutely great video, honestly it was what sold me on the p1p. you hit all the important parts such as personal and business use ability's, things that a lot of other youtubers miss in reviews tbh. Thanks!
As someone who started off with a BitsFromBytes Darwin printer, i have to enjoy how far 3D printers have gone. Ender-3 was good but was really going into the expensive side where i was more into fixing the printer than actually printing. Hope that this one is a good printer and not sitting on my shelf like all the others.
Awesome Video! FYI Bambu Slicer is a fork of Prusa slicer since Prusa is open source. Also maybe have part numbers in your stl file names, we found this made it a lot easier for our business!
About the ABL, I often see people confused about what it actually does because it has the word "leveling" in it. ABL doesn't level any bed nor does it adjust nozzle offset (Bambu does this separately). A better name for it would be something like Automatic Bed Topology Runtime Micro Adjustments, but that doesn't roll of the tongue very well.
Bed Surface Deviation Compensation,
"Automatic Bed Levelling" was always a terrible name.
- You said you didn’t have any problems but at end you said 2 out of the 9 printers had problems. One not working at all with an error and one required a new hot end after it fell out. 😂
- The feature your talking about in the slicer is nothing new, you can drag or import multiple stls, arrange and slice it will produce one gcode or 3mf file. Can do it in cura or prusaslicer.
- Bamboos slicer is literally a fork of prusaslicer. So probably 90% of it is same with some small tweaks and UI changes.
PS2.6 should also come with the new goodies Bambuslicer comes with.
Thanks for the info on a multi-printer workflow.
I bought one to experiment, after almost a year of nightmares with an ender 3 pro... now 5 new Bambus are on the way... now I'm scaling 3D print as a business for me.
I love the multiple plate thing in the slicer. The AMS filament loading is faster as I can just put the filament into the feeder and let it load once I send the print to the printer. I personally would like a bigger bed version also possibly like the XL with multiple print heads.
Very informative video. I'm really considering purchasing one of these machines myself. This might have tipped the scales. Thank you!
The reason you still need to adjust the Z-offset on a MK3s+ is that the printer uses a sensor that can vary a bit in height compared to the nozzle. The sensor (=PINDA-sensor) is mounted onto the extruderblock, next to the heatblock and nozzle. It's a "loose" item, you have to assemble onto machine, meaning it could be half a mm higher or 1/4th mm lower than another machine for example. So while it can create a perfect mesh for the bed (it knows perfectly how far the sensor is from the bed), it does not know how far the nozzle is from the bed - since the nozzle and the sensor aren't always perfectly aligned with each other. Therefore, you have to adjust the Z-offset, so the printer knows how far the nozzle is from the bed and thus from the sensor.
That was a very good explanation on the pinda probe. I guess to skip the z offset the probe would probably need to be fixed to the nozzle assembly from the factory then. Anywho, looks like the newer printers are switching to this new nozzle leveling method. I was glad to see that upgrade on the new MK4.
Your Ender 3 experience mirrors mine. Good printers... when they work. Unfortunately they need to be constantly tuned and maintained, and sometimes they just dont work and you cant figure out why. I cannot wait for my X1.
Haha, nice naming scheme for your printers. Neo would be proud.
Daaaaaamn, I don't know much people that has as many hours on Ender 3's as you, so watching times really makes me feel like the Bambu people are really changing the game, since you talked about a time when you had ender 3's in someone else's house as well, I'm guessing this printers will make it easier for them as they are so low maintenance
Hey, great to hear from you again Nabil! Yeah, I’m really glad I made the switch and I’m really thinking (and hoping) that I’ll have less maintenance issues which will really help me to grow and move forward this year.
Another good video from the perspective of someone that relies on their printer to make a living. Now that this Bambu video is getting a lot of views AND you have experience with custom window panels, make a panel enclosure kit for the P1P. Enclosures are needed for ABS and other filaments. Link it in the description and show it in your next Bambu related video and you'll sell a ton.
It’s definitely crossed my mind.
I knew you were going to like these. Ender 3s had their role and Creality needed the wake up for not innovating, but I think they got the message. Now we will benefit from companies actually competing again.
You need a load cell in the print head to be able to determine the bed level with the nozzle. Most inexpensive or older printers don't have that. The reason you still had to adjust the Z offset on the MK3 is because the bed leveling routine is just there to determine the levelness of the bed to apply offsets to the printing gcode. It has no idea where the nozzle is in relation to the ABL probe. The MK4 has a load cell, so it no longer requires setting the Z-offset, similar to how the Bambu printers work.
I have an Ender 3 that I've "hot rodded" and klipperized and a Ratrig V-Minion sitting in a box of parts waiting to be put together but I'm thinking about getting a P1P for the "just works" factor. I put some projects off (mainly printing V-Minion parts) because I know I'm going to spend an evening getting my Ender dialed in again before I can print.
Shout out to the Dodge Dart! I had a 1974 Dodge Dart Swinger as my daily driver to high school in the 80's. Your video was good too :)
Whoop whoop!
Great video! Also, I do not believe Bambu is selling the non-c variant of the the X1 anymore.
Sounds like it's been really transformative for your business which is fantastic. I was ready to go to pick up an X1C once my tax return hit and then saw their April 9th blog post.
The posturing and aggressiveness there makes "we totally won't be patent trolls" read as "we totally are going to be patent trolls." Many enclosed type systems like this one were held up for decades because of patents, and open sourcing advances over the years is why printers now are at the level they're at. We will see how their IP team handles things and maybe it's not going to be as bad as that sounded, but they're going to have to show over time that they're not going to be sus before I'm dropping money on their products. The K1 Max looks very feature matching on paper and could be good if they can put out what they're saying they will, but after the creality cloud issues I'm hesitant to spend with them either.
On the up side, the market has been responding to Bambu by stepping up quickly, hopefully in the not too distant future there will be a bunch with a similar feature set from companies with a good track record on open source and litigation.
Its funny, I named all my printers in my print farm after D&D Character classes :) - Just noticed your Matrix naming scheme
I've owned the X1C now for 2 days. I'm really amazed. Its nice that I can start a print before leaving work and while driving I can cancel the print if something is not correct. aka this morning lol. I rushed the slice and had a feeling it would fail. 15 minutes into my drive and I got an alert. Sure enough it was bad and I cancelled the print from my phone.
For most of us, we have trust issues with 3d printers. That nervous feeling on whether its going to print or not especially leaving the printer without being able to manage it.. With this machine I'm not feeling that. I have done 6 prints so far and only one failed which was my fault. I have done small prints and large ones using 80% of the build surface.
The fact that I could unbox, update firmware and run the sd loaded benchy in under 50 minutes with stunning results. Yea considered me sold.
100%
Dude I'm right where you are with the Ender 3's. I only have 4 and my business is nowhere near as successful, but man these things have really held me back. I have infinite ideas of stuff to list and sell and I'm scared to list anything because it takes me months to perfect a print to where I have the confidence to list the product. When they work they are amazing but that's like 10% of the time. I'm getting REAL good at the maintenance too, and they still find ways to screw everything up somehow. I'm so glad these bambulab printers came out, but I wish I knew about them a little sooner before I had bought 2 more Ender 3's. I got an S1 and S1 Pro thinking they were so great and advanced, but dealing with a lot of the same issues as on my v2's sadly.
What issues of you don’t mind me asking?
@@yobtnirp Everything. My first v2 I have replaced everything except the frame and heated bed. The wheels (it was used when I got it, they were worn down), heat sensors, main board, whole hotend, fans, bent z screw idk how it even got bent lol, but that printer was used so a lot of it may have just been someone else's fault. My 2nd v2 has had its share of problems too. S1 and S1 pro it's usually just stupid problems that cost me mostly time. Dialing everything in perfect for like 3 days to get that perfect print. Then it prints great for a couple days and more stuff goes out of whack and I have to dial it back in. IMHO they are great for a hobbyist, and taught me a lot about 3d printing. Since then I got a p1p and p1s and they are much better for running a small business. I had a LOT of sales come in like $8k monthly sales out of nowhere (which is why I ordered p1s too), and I put out 400+ products since mid september. Most of these sales would take about 20 hours to print on the ender 3's. If I didn't have the p1p and p1s I would probably be contemplating suicide by now or just gave up and went out of business lol. I never did get any of it to print right on the Enders. It's a rather complex print, the bottom layer is basically nonexistent so it literally has to sit in the supports just right. Both xy and z distance from supports were key to this. It was hard enough to perfect the slicer settings on the bambu lab printers, but I never did get them to print right on ANY of the enders. Now the bambu lab printers are putting out like 12 of these things per day in sport mode.
@@yobtnirp Sorry to type so much, just been working nonstop so it's nice to vent lol but I also want to mention silk. A lot of my orders involve silk, glow in the dark, and other specialty filaments. I spent an entire winter fighting with my Ender 3's to print gold silk. Whenever I got it to work right, eventually it wouldn't. At one point I went through an entire roll and countless slicer settings with 0 decent prints. Back when I got my p1p, I wanted to print my mom this butterfly jewelry box. I hit print. It printed. Flawlessly. I was blown away. Now I print silk products that come out looking amazing, like they are just regular old pla.
@@waynefilkins8394 huh, sorry you had so many issues. For some reason my ender 3 prints silk fine and it even comes out smoother than regular pla
Prusa reliability and long term support currently can't be beat but man definitely the speed and maybe the quality from Bambu blow em out the water
This is amazing. Sorry Martin I have not made the jump to start the business yet but I feel like the more I hold out the more new tech comes plus I have not found that idea yet to print. Not sure how to get started yet in the part of the business. Just need that one or 2 ideas. Using FL Sun racers, 2 enders, 2 tronxy X5SA (350x350X350).
One thing I only saw so far in 1 video about the Bambu Lab printer speed is that while it looks good compared to that it prints so fast, but if testing the break point for finished prints, the prints from the Bambu Lab printers break more easily at the standard fast speeds it works with, than if you slow down the printing to match other 3D printers. So the concern there I guess is exactly if you actually sell your products you print, it looks great, but the structure may be weaker. I do not have a 3D printer yet, but as I look for one, I spent a lot of time looking at many videos about these Bambu Lab 3D printers, and Prusa MK4 etc.
Great video!!!! I will likely buy one of these here in the near future. I am an OG-Geek, I love tech, and don't mind digging into something to make it work. With that, to support my scale RC hobby I wanted printers that just worked, I did not want 3D printing as a hobby unto itself. I bought my CR-10 a few years back, and it hasn't been terrible, but I have had to geek with it a bit more than I want to. My Prusa Mini has been pretty good, but I have still had to fiddle with it. Like you, I don't understand why I have to set the Z-axis when the bed probe is getting the level of the bed. I have been asked to sell some of the parts I design, but I have not had confidence in my print reliability/quality to pull the trigger on that, The Banbu printer might change that.
man finally a real life comparison. people looking for the smallest con and make it sound so bad like the small screen on the p1p. Im going for the p1p instead for a few reasons. im excited to make my own side panels, has all the features i need and alot that i want. only down side is the nice looking screen on the carbon. But since you can do it from a app im going to make amount for my 10inch tablet that i dont use for anything. lidar would forsure be nice but from what i seen it isnt needed for nice prints anyway. I got a ender 5 plus atm and looking to keep it since the build volume is large and has a few upgrades aswell. But this machine will be perfect for those small rc parts that i need and it will do it quickly and in filament that i cant use on my ender 5 plus.
Always astonished to see ppl talking about the bamboo as a new innovative printer. (And yes… they are not bad). You could have had this kind of printer since 3-4 years at last - with a Voron. Not for everyone, because of the build, but fully In your hands. Fully open source. And the record for the speed benchy is still hold by a Voron.
Thousands of print hours on my Voron s so far.
I should not forget to mention vz bot and ratrig.
I just ordered my first p1p on sale for $599. Like you, I am fed up with the constant problems from my ender 3v2.
I like that your experience with the machine is from a manufacturing perspective which means you have a lot of hour on your Bambu's. That being said if you jump from Ender 3 to Bambu Lab P1P you're going to be saying "remarkable" pretty much all day. What I'm trying to say is that your bar was super low, not taking anything away from the P1P but your reference adds a lot to your woah factor.
Regarding the wireless printing feature: I ditched the stock Ender 3 control interface and SD cards in favor of a Raspberry Pi Zero W running Fluidd/Klipper. Completely changed my experience. I would never go back to the old workflow. I'm actually surprised you were physically sneaker-netting SD cards around and using the stock Ender interface on a big farm for so long!
I love your Matrix names ont he printers :)
I don't own one of these unfortunately but have recently read there's a limit to how fast you can print before part strength starts to take a dive. I'll keep investigating this for now before buying as I almost only print structural parts. Great vid... thx
Did you watch CNC Kitchen video about it? It seems to relate to the messagebI just posted here: hotend flow rate being maxed out and filament being printed at suboptimal temperature...
I was just watching a video on the same thing. I was just getting ready to buy one and wanted to do a little more research and came across that video. That and at higher speeds the print will be shiny on half of the print and matte on the other half.
@Joslyn Jordan Matte happens when the filament doesn't take as much heat as it does at a lower print speed.
Options to get glossy prints: print slower or increase hotend temperature.
The best would be to have variable hotend temperature relative to hotend flow rate (in the gcode or else)...
the slicer is an open source fork of the prusa slicer, thats why people say its "like" the prusa slicer :)
Mine was holy cap it works and prints awesome…. With out spending all that time with the first layer
The Enders were a good starting point to learn with - inexpensive to get in the door - but obviously the Bamboo technology is a huge leap forward and much more efficient from a "business" point of view.
great video. I'm just a hobbyist that hopes to make a business of this someday. I have 2x cr6 se's. I don't see how any less then 5-7 of them would compete with a single P1P. There's so many prints that I pass on because they take too long on my cr6's, as well as skipping soooo much fine tuning in my slicer because the prints would take so long to verify different settings.
few weeks ago the prusa mk4 came out, with new bedleveling without Z adjustment.
3:16 the contrast between the bambu speed and ender speed is hilarious.
Have upgraded my ender 3 pro 2 several times, helped me to learn fine details of 3d printing, but can not wait til I get my Bambu Labs, it is on my short list. You have great videos, seen several in the past. Thanks! Do you use Bambu filaments or other? My biggest worries has been selection of filaments if I were to stick to Bambu, they do not yet offer all the materials I like to use, but at least they can use other filaments, but one loses some of benefits of the Bambu branded filament. Thoughts?
These printers are "For people who only care about the product from the 3d printer, not for someone who wants to tinker with their printer." And that's 100% me. Good job Bambu.
not sure if it is worth you checking out but the mosaic element is this on steroids from what I can tell. with a large build volume
have a 3d printing side job. my ender 3 has been modded to be mostly reliable and print about 2/3 spools worth per day for concept testing. but there are definitely times that it isn't consistent. a great friend says he will get me a bambu with an AMS. so thanks for your opinion
I do like how the slicer lets you do multiple build plates. which I am really starting to like. especially since I can also color code things. Prusaslicer let you have parts off to the side so you could still have all the parts to a project
I currently have an AnkerMake m5 3d printer and about ready to purchase of of the Bambu Lab X1-Carbon Combo with AMS. This should work well with the Revopoint Mini and Range I hope. Would the Bambu Lab X1-Carbon Combo be more beneficial for selling prints? Thanks for the review of this one.
I just got a Bambu Lab P1S to print penny whistles I'm currently designing.
I run a farm with 10 SWX2's from Artillery. I bought an X1C Combo with the AMS 2 weeks ago, and I don't think I'll be using the SWX2's much longer. My goal now is to switch over for sure. The way I view my 3D printing business is the same way I view my custom woodworking business (they are related after all).
My tools are supposed to make me money. My 3D printers are my tools, not my products. I don't want to be spending all my time working on my tools, but on my products. I wholeheartedly agree with what you said here...
EDIT: If anyone is interested in buying some Artillery SWX2's, get in touch! I have some for sale...
I see a lot of hobbiests hating on these because you cant maintenance them. What they fail to realise is that you don't need to fix something every third print. For my use case each one of these replaced five enders. If I need to replace one every 2000hrs so be it I got my moneys out of it. No way in hell my enders would have produced for (2000hrs x 5) 10000hrs worth of product without failure.
You nailed it on the head my friend.
Amen brother!
you should watch CNC kitchen video about the print speeds in relation to part strength with with the Bamboo.