Upgrading my 3D printer to print the toughest material: Nylon
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Upgrading my Bambu Lab P1P with hardware, an enclosure, and a filament drier. All STLs are free:
Vision Enclosure:
www.printables.com/model/3630...
Vision Enclosure w/ LEDs by me:
www.printables.com/@TimTheEng...
Step and CAD files of P1P and vision enclosure available on Patreon:
/ timtheengineer
Graphs and Technical data for Materials/filaments sources:
www.bcn3d.com/guide-to-filame...
www.simplify3d.com/resources/...
omnexus.specialchem.com/polym...
www.cnckitchen.com/blog/compa...
Bambu Lab components needed for this build:
Control board fan & Chamber fan, Air Filter:
uk.store.bambulab.com/product...
uk.store.bambulab.com/product...
uk.store.bambulab.com/product...
Hardened Steel Extruder gears & Hotend:
uk.store.bambulab.com/product...
uk.store.bambulab.com/collect...
Cable Chain w/ extended cable(not essential) and extended PTFE Tube
uk.store.bambulab.com/product...
uk.store.bambulab.com/product...
uk.store.bambulab.com/product...
Nylon Filament:
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08WZXHCP...
Filament Drier:
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09HJL95R...
Vacuum Bags for storing Nylon:
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07RTJV6G...
Pneumatic Fittings:
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086YPDHM...
Special thanks to @3DMakerNoob for letting me use the clip of steam in Nylon filament
Music:
• Chill Upbeat Jazzy Lof...
• Bensound: "Sexy" - Roy...
Jesus the energy behind these animations is excellent.
Thanks Oscar! 10 meals worth of energy :)
Hell of a first upload. Well done!
Thank you!!
Damn Tim, from just messing around in his garage to being a legit engineer. Proud of you 😢
Thanks Usama!
What a spectacular way to launch a CZcams channel. Congratulations
Thank you very much!
I'm waiting for the next video. It'll be hard to maintain this amazing quality. I wish you success.
Ill do my best thank you!
This is one of the best and most informative videos I've watch for a long time. Amazing work, looking forward to watching more,
Thank you for the kind words! I won’t disappoint!
Awesome video. Super professional and information dense. I can't wait to see what else you produce, videos and prints. Thank you.
Thanks mate! Hoping to continue this way!
with great power comes great respronsitrilitries!
Love the style of the video. I've been 3D printing a long time and have to compliment you on the animations you created, as well as the excellent camera angles showing the detail of the work you're doing on the printer. The video and audio quality combined with the obvious editing effort that went into this make a great video. I can't believe you only have ~200 subscribers. Can't wait to see the next one!
Thank you! That means a lot coming from a seasoned 3D printing veteran!
Good thing I stumbled across this video -- I just bought a hardened nozzle for my P1S but didn't even think to get hardened gears!
Double check it doesn’t already come with those!
@@tttimster2132 the P1S says it comes with stainless gears. The hardened gears were only $20 so it is a worthwhile upgrade to go with all of the PETG-CF I just bought.
@@cedwards427 oh definitely if your printing anything with fibres in it as they are super abrasive!
Sick editing and damn you know your stuff!!
Thanks Virtue!
insane design
Thanks! Big credit to humebeam!
Great video🙌🏽
Thank you 🙌
💯 Dry Humor, Next Level Editing, Perfect Content. Subbed. Good luck w/ your channel….and thanks for this.
Thank you! I’m glad we have the same sense of humour!
Hey Tim great video, especially straight out the gate. I don't know how concerned over privacy you are but this video makes it quite straightfoward to figure out your address.
I’ve realised but didn’t expect the video to do so well. I’m moving out soon so as long as people are well behaved till then. Thanks for your concerns wish me luck!
I really like how you gave an insight about how nylon the material itself works, very well done!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for an informative vid with amazing animations and editing. You deserve 1000x the subs.
Thank you so much! Hopefully I can get there someday!
Great video mate! Loved the animations and style you have. Upgrade videos are my favourite. Your printer looks great too! Cheers
Thank you mate!
Man, the video quality is great. Amazing stuff!
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Great stuff Tim!
Thanks Tracey!
insane video quality, great job
Thanks Vince! Much appreciated :)
I saw this on Reddit, it’s beautiful
:o it’s on Reddit?
I have gone for the air filteration inside, and inward exhaust to cool the chamber & keep fumes inside. This is pretty easy to do in klipper
Interesting tip if I have any issues I might consider doing the same!
If you keep the activated carbon in the heated chamber it can *release* the chemicals it previously filtered
great content, great humor, great animations!
Thank you! :D
Probably the best first video i've ever seen. I would suggest tuning your audio a little bit but other than that, this was awesome. Hope to see more in the future! :)
Thanks a lot! For the second video I will tune it!
Love your style of humor and editing 👍
You got yourself a new sub.
Thank you very much!!
good video, I enjoy the comedic bits
Thank you! I’m glad someone other than myself finds me funny!
Crazy video quality, your p1p looks now much better then p1s :)
Thank you! I think so too :)
Definitely keep going with that channel!
Great explanation of the challenges one faces with nylon.
Looking forward to future videos
Thank you will do!
Man, this makes me wanna buy a Bambu lab and start modding (as if I could afford one). But the video making & quality is lit. Continue to make more content :)
Thank you for the support! Will do! They are pretty expensive but we’ll worth it!
damm the transitions and animations and quality is top level i expected you to have at least 50k subs youll get there 1 day
Your giving me hope thank you!
@TimTheEngineer96 genuenly if you dont make it then its rigged only thing that i could say might improve the experience slightly would be a better mic but thatd just be being picky cause yours isnt even bad
Thanks for the feedback I will try to work on mic quality for the next vid!
@TimTheEngineer96 damnn i just realised this is your first vid youll defenetly get far dude like i dont see this quality from some ppl that 200k+ subs
@@TimTheEngineer96also what electric drill do you use?
Printing a cover for a not so neatly cut hole is definitely something I've done a couple times 😂. Super hard to make perfect holes with hand tools, but luckily they _are_ super easy to cover with a printer!
Well said 😂
That was well done and quite entertaining. Very calm and collected way to present this video. Subscribed.
Much appreciated thank you for the kind words!
Just found your channel through recommendations. That's an incredible work!
The filming and editing is extremely sick too. You deserve lots of subscribers! 💪
Thank you for the kind words!
Really nice video! Interesting, good pace and impressive editing. Keep up the good work! Im Subscribing!
Thank you means a lot!
brother you are doing some fascinating job that can't be even done with magic, Keep it up man
Wow thank you!
Great video. Brand new subscriber. Long time nylon user. Easy Nylon is funny because if you print it with regular nylon bed temps you will have a had time. You'll actually get better results if you use 50 degrees on the bed instead of higher temps. A thin layer of glue will be just as sufficient as thick glue but prettier. The packaging recommendations are actually spot on (when perfectly dry).
The Easy Nylon you printed is still too wet from the looks of it. It will be silky smooth when completely dry. When wet, it'll get the bumpier texture and string like PETG.
Idk if you have the engineering plate but i think that actually works the best with Easy Nylon.
Finally, you used Easy Nylon.... It's easy lol. If you want a "real" challenge, pickup some Kodak Nylon. That'll require the preset temps, unlike the Overture.
Again, great video. Just hoping to help, as an extensive non-CF nylon user.
Thank you! I’m glad you approve given your expertise on the matter! I was scared nylon lovers would take offence to me using easy nylon but I’m glad I’m still in the good books :) I’ve tried other Nylon and indeed it was much more difficult to get right. Didn’t know that you could go as low as 50 and I think you might be right i didn’t dry it before printing. Probably should have let it sit in the drier overnight. Thanks for the info kind sir! I will keep it in mind for future projects!
Amazing job especially for a first upload,well done.
Thank you :) I tried my hardest
Bravo!👏
Merci!
Thanks for the nice video! I'm upgrading my p1p too and not sure about installing the chamber fan because there is no temperature sensor in the p1p. So the fan is only adjusted by the g-code, right ?
Yes this is correct, to be honest it’s no way near as important as the control board fan. The enclosure won’t overheat even if your beds at 100 C so you can skip the chamber fan upgrade if you want. For me it was a way of getting some air through the Carbon filter. Now considering having an internal filtering system with a hepa filter and temp sensor+ heater.
This is your first video? Subscribed to encourage you to do more!
Thanks for the encouragement
Now you're ready to build a voron.
Voron is my dream printer!
Fantastic Video! Subbed!
Amazing thanks!
I can only say: WOW!
I’ll take it as a compliment!
@@TimTheEngineer96 😁
Great video, I got myself a P1S like two months ago since my first printer reached the end of its lifespan and the repair cost was too high. little side note I REALLY like the aesthetics of your room :)
Thanks alot I was in the same boat, P1S is the best choice :) Im in the process of doing a workshop build video hopefully that might be entertaining then!
just got my p1s and looking forward to printing in nylon and CF
It’s amazing good luck!
Great Video! Very informative and I really appreciate your fine sense of humor. I did the conversion from P1P to P1S a few weeks ago and I preferred - after some serious consideration - the original Bambu enclosure set. It's expensive, though. But it comes with all the parts, including all the necessary fans and mounts. And it's not to underestimate how much material and energy (and therefore money) is needed for DIY-printing and building an enclosure. At the end, the original enclosure is not so much more expensive anymore. And Bambu can't blame you for not using it when it comes to defects. Nevertheless your enclosure is great (and brings much more vision on the process) and will surely work perfect. Especially the lights are nothing less than amazing.
Thank you! The enclosure by Bambu lab is amazing and all in all costs the same for a much more professional finish so It’s still what I recommend!
You've earned yourself a new subscriber. Amazing first video!
Much appreciated thanks!
Very nice video !
Thanks!
Wow the production on this video is wild, I wish I could organize my thoughts as you do, bravo
Thanks! Don’t worry my thoughts aren’t normally this organised :) Just lots of writing them down on paper!
Nice work! I bought Nylon to try out too
Thank you and good luck! It’s not easy like it says on the packaging :)
Subbed, great vid quality.
Thanks a lot!
Beautiful job! well done! 🙌🙌🙌
Thank you mate
Awesome 3d printer and the upgrades look cool 😎
Thanks!
Hi, I love the video and the volume of the music is perfect, but your voice is soo quiet! Please change that in the future, thank you so much.
Thank you so much! Will make sure to boost the voice volume next video!
One (IMO) crucial piece of advice if you want to succeed: Do some audio corrections. Compare your video to random other videos on YT. You'll notice that your volume is very low. Don't fall for the "people can adjust their volume"-trap. Nobody wants to have to change their volume for each video, nor do they want the heart attack when the next video starts that is at the right volume, which is way too loud now due to how much they had to increase the volume on their machine.
People can deal with crappy video, but crappy audio really is a dealbreaker. Other than that, this seems like a great new channel, keep up the good work.
Yeah I completely agree with your points will try to match audio for the next video thanks!
Top notch content my guy. Got my sub. In before 1000. You gonna have tens of thousands in no time. Keep it up. You and loyal Moses should do something.
Thanks for the encouragement! I’ll keep creating!
Who is loyal moses?
Garolite works well for the bed for nylons
I want to try Garolite as well as the ICE plate in the future!
Just found your channel. Subscribed
Thanks!
Nice video, keep up the good work.
Thank you Gus!
You could add one of those PTC heaters to reach 60C inside the printer. I wasn't ever able to get more than 45C on x1c
Great suggestion maybe in the future if there’s any challenging prints I need to complete!
@@TimTheEngineer96 FYI there are off the shelve heaters for resin printers that you could easily use
Ooo didn’t know that I’ll check in them out thnx
Amazing first video 🔥
Thank you jelly!
Do you have any sources for the graphs you use, like the one at 8:48 ? (There are none linked in the description)
And if you measured them yourself: what setup and parameters were used ?
Great reminder thanks, I’ve just updated the description! Note that I didn’t use any coefficient of friction graphs because I couldn’t find any papers that compare the filaments reliably. Although it’s widely accepted that Nylon has low friction in industry.
copper spot plating 3d printing instead, or even silver or zinc. yep pure metal.
Great video, just subbed
Thanks mate!
Nice video, can't wait to see more
Thank you kind sir!
Great vid as as a X1C and A1 mini owner. This little build is tempting to tinker with an P1P
Not bad thanks for showing us 👍
Great vid and editing
Thank you! Yeah I love the flexibility for customising!
Really cool video !! Do p1p or p1s have preset profiles for those engineering filaments like nylon-cf etc ?
Thanks! Yes they do PA-CF is actually easier to print! The nylon (PA) profile is the tricky part because it’s too fast and a lot of the settings had to be tuned on the slicer
One trick I have used in my PrusaXL to improve my success with Nylon parts is to use a fiber reinforced nylon in the bulk structural areas and plain nylon in the contact areas. I also found that polycarbonate and nylon don't adhere to each other so if you can keep the PC and PA from contacting each other in a wipe tower and only use supports on the bed you can treat the PC almost like a dissolvable support material with the interface distance... That said on the XL a wipe tower is pretty much a necessity when switching filaments and i really struggled getting the mixed prints and wipe tower to behave.
Very cool Idea! I’m thinking of doing something similar in a future project with glass fibres in the middle of the filament, leaving the outside nylon only.
Good job on ordering to a locker i was a amazon driver for 3 years i cannot tell you how much stuff gets stolen in your lobby i am proud of you good job not being lazy like everyone else who gets their package stolen because some low life picked it up off the lobby floor.
Yeah it’s actually makes it better for everyone the lockers are amazing!
Your video got randomly flushed into my feed but your animations and story telling is top notch! Well done! I‘ll drop a sub for now…
Thanks!!
Nice video. Sadly, audio is little too low.
Noted I’ll boost it for the next vid!
That was good content. Subbed!
Thank you sir!
Cool, some nice mods there. Only thing i can see is that top does not seem to fit (i can see the light leakage at the front which means air / heat leakage) and also its too low. I used my p1s for quite a few months low down like yours before making a much bigger extension on the top because the ptfe tube hits and rubs agenst the top. Its left pits and scratches in my top part and the ptfe tube has rubbed itself down flat on one side. Also just wondering did you heat up the printer before printing the nilon? Maybe i missed you saying you did? Cheers for the video.
Thanks for the info! Your right I’ve started seeing the ptfe tube scraping. I’m thinking I might change it for the high temp ptfe that came with the pneumatic fittings I’ve linked in the description. Hopefully won’t wear as much. I would say one of the cons is this design is indeed not air tight like you mentioned, but so far I havent seen any other warping since installing the enclosure! I did heat up the enclosure slightly, but I found that by the time you get to those top layers away from the bed, the air has warmed up enough even without preheating it.
earned a sub, very entertaining video
Thank you!
You sr earn a subscriber , great works
Thanks!
Well, it sounds as if PA was the best material (Nylon is actually just a brand name, not the material). However it's actually not even close to being the best material, and I'm talking about the mechanical properties and not about ease of use. Really the biggest problem with PA is that it trades toughness for rigidity. For example I would never print shelf parts out of it, because the load will deform it permanently over time. Toughtness is not the only strength property and therefore, while it is impact and shatter resistant, it's still not the strongest material (not even close).
Also since it is hard to print properly, it will turn out weaker than PETG in a lot of cases.
Furthermore it's unsuitable in a lot more cases than just shelf parts.Whenever rigidity is required, then PA is the wrong material. Printed CNC machines for example. In the vast majority of cases PLA, PETG or ABS/ASA is better suited than PA. PLA expecially when it needs to be stiff and resist deflection under non constant load and when temperature is low. Or ABS/ASA for constant loads.
Yes PA can be made stiffer when using PACF, but it still won't be as stiff as some other options like PLA and the CF content might be unsuitable in many cases, because CF changes it's size based on room temperature and that causes a lot of mechanical problems, too.
In my experience of 5 years with many different filaments, I'd argue, that there are almost no cases where PA is the best choice. Wear and friction resistance is one of the few cases wher PA shines over the other filaments.
There is a reason why PLA and PETG is so widely popular. ANd that's not only because they're easy to work with, but also because they are suited to most use cases and even in special cases I'd probably not use PA, unless specifically required. And their spread make them cheap, so the higher price for PA is not an argument for it being better. Quite the contrary.
Yeah your absolutely right there’s very few good use cases for nylon, but I do believe that if used in the right areas it shines! Hope to demonstrator this in future projects!
Great planning, great execution, nice humor. Also, very fine adaptation about the lightswitch, but still OCD enough to make the whole as pleasant as possible. Subscribed!
Thank you for the encouraging words :)) it’s people like you that make me want to create more!
That pickup code, tho.
I think you are the first to notice :)
Man, we are watching, don't be sad! +sub
Ahhh thank you!
"So I might have fuc*d up slightly..." 😅
This looks so great. I also appreciate you including the more human moments like the 20 mins for screws or not making a perfect drill hole
I’m trying to keep it as real as possible! Much appreciated thanks!
Hi! Great video! Do you manage to keep the Nylon dry at 55°C with the Sunlu S1 Dryer?
Yes I do! it’s got a fan in it which distributes the air, the fan-less version is pretty much useless though
Dang thats a really good printer in the background what upgrades did you do to it to get like 15kmm/s speeds
😂 bit of editing magic and it becomes sonic
so quick question, at around 5:24, i noticed that there are gaps leading straight to the controller board from the inside of the printer. I know you installed the fan for extra airflow around it however wouldnt the 50 degree air temperature mess with the longevity of the control board. just didnt see if you had addressed this during the build. great video by the way.
Yes your absolutely right this is also a concern I have. Having Looked at the Bambu wiki for the enclosure upgrade they seem to think the fan is enough, but I definitely think that adding a wall of insulation around the control board would help prevent too much hot air from getting back there. Thanks!
There’s no fucking way he has 181 subscribers, you are so professional. The video is so well made. I subbed :)
Im happy with 181! XD thank you for the encouragement!
Very nice video TiM, the animation are awesome, in what program you managed to do them?
Good luck in the future 🎉
Thank you! I used SolidWorks which also has its own animation engine!
I want to know about that projector under the living table! I plan on getting the P1S :)
The projector is an amazing replacement to a TV! P1S is the best choice in my opinion!
Please share print settings and bed types + glue. I`m trying to print PA-CF but its really hard. I`m with P1S and 0.6mm hardened steel nozzle, But I don`t know about the fans and cooling needed or not.
I have print settings shown in the video before I start printing the nylon attempt #2! As for cooling turn it all off!
Excellent video your the 1st person i have seen upgrade a p1p please can you post a total cost.
Thank you! Bambu parts were $130, filament around $60, panels I got free and LEDS and other parts another $60 so around $250!
Subbed at "hey siri, how do you say penematic?"
Just took delivery of my X1C last night after 6mo with my A1 mini, working on a full secondary ventilated chamber to run it outside. We’ll see how that goes… 😅
Congrats and good luck the X1 is a beast!
nice video, how did you do the animations?
I use a mix of Final Cut and solidworks :)
Have you tried annealing the nylon parts in oil to reduce water absorbtion and increasing strength?
I have not yet, although I like the suggestion, I may try this in a later project If the parts aren’t holding up
What Temperature do you have in the Enclosure?
I don’t have a temp sensor but based on the hot end sensor and bed sensor cooling it’s probably 35-40 C. Better enclosures like X1C can go up to 45-50C
@@TimTheEngineer96 thanks mate!
What solved the warping? Slower print? Different temperature? Great video
Yes mainly swapping to PEI sheet improved bed adhesion but I also made some changes to settings which I displayed before I started 2nd print!
@@TimTheEngineer96 great, i will compare the settings. Thanks for the response
Ordering a P1S would save you half a day of work...
Question, what electric screwdriver do you use for the drilling ?
Would’ve saved me 2 weeks of work :( unfortunately didn’t have the money for P1S back in the day. It’s called HOTO electric drill on Amazon.
Subbed, can't wait for more 😁
Awesome thnx! Uploading every 9th!
Keep up the nice video cutting/editing. In my opinion you does it best im camparison to other 3d printing enthusiats.
And try polymaker CoPa. Grwat engineering filament and much easier to print.
That means a lot thanks!
Hey, what print bed are you using?
PEI sheet and carbon fibre film I got from ali express
Its funny how true the thought "bambu labs is the Apple of printers" is. The PCBs, the connections, the attention to detail/design is so much like Apple.
My thoughts exactly! Only printer I think is nice to have displayed!