Armada's 5 Tips for Beginners - Super Smash Bros.
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"be open minded, its a huge problem for humanity in general"
Armada for pres 2020
Bpk Op doesn't take much to know that humanity is fucked up its all in the history
I'm so glad Armada said this - I actually think open mindedness is one of the greatest life lessons - and as Armada explained, it has the bonus value of applying to smash - win/win
SSBM Soul the only problem is that close minded people tend to think they are open minded
No shade but is your icon a peepee?
"some people stay low level their whole life"
just @ me next time armada
the1janitor LMAOOOO Kevin, funny as hell I find you here
1) Stick to a main/Don't Cheese with weird matchups
2) Work on your movement
3) Stick to the basics/Don't be super -Hax$- err...I mean Flashy
4) Analyze your matchups (Focus on: Losing Neutral / What their reads say)
5) Play to learn, not play to win friendlies!
He didn't really say stick to the basics. He rather said learn and perfect your fundamentals and don't waste time learning how to do 10 multishines. Also, for self analysis, he also said to look at your punishes and ask yourself if you could have extended it further (9/10 times you could have, such is the nature of this game)
On a note related to pride, having low confidence is just as detrimental to your growth as being too prideful. When you have low confidence, you disregard every mistake you make as being a "bad player", resulting in you not learning anything. When analyzing your matches, you need to respect yourself enough to see that there are reasonable explanations for your flaws.
This issue has been affecting not just my play, but many things in my life and I am taking steps to change.
Armada lookin like the white frosting between oreo cookies.
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SuperCatacata LMFAO this comment made my day
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LMFAOOO THAT MADE IT BETTER
........................ RACIST......................... ahahahahahaha
people need to understand how different the "i want to win" and the "i want to get better" mentality is
I wanna win
I want to get better so I can win
Armada: First tip stick to one character
Me: Kirby!
Patooo 10/10 But then he said in the same tip to not cheese people with a matchup they don't know.
Patooo 10/10
You can win a local with Kirby. Push the Pink Ball of Friendship up the tierlist!
ive done things to my friends with kirby that would never happen in tournament because the difference in skill gap between "people who play smash" and "people who played smash" is gigantic
You do you, man.
fuck kirby, just main a good character god damn theres no way kirby is more fun than any of the top tiers, its not about you. people who try to main low tiers just for the sake of being a low tier main makes me sick
Some of the best advice I've heard.
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Lovin these Armada talks
1: don't get hit
2: don't get grabbed
3: don't run off the stage
4: stop rolling
6. Don't go for style when you're down a stock
7: No Johns
"pro tip ur dum"
-Jason Zimmerman
Felipe Sosa "ur stupid"
Hax's 5 tips for beginners
1. Fox
2. 2
3. 0
4. X
5. X
ChamplooMusashi I laughed way harder at this than I needed to XD
Alternatively:
1. L
2. R
3. A
4. Start
5. Fox
+Matthew Mazzatto That's a Falcon specific tech.
Matthew Mazzatto I think this works better:
1. Falcon
2. L
3. R
4. A
5. Start
Pro tip: No Johns
so many keep forgetting this
Luigi but there's lagg on the tv
someone should tell this to m2k and his social media accounts
who is this John you speak of? Well whatever. This John was smart. When you lose, you get frustrated. Human beings needs to express their frustration. Why should you blame yourself? You know it's your fault, but it feels much better to put the blame on something else, like the game. To "John" needs to be encouraged. Melee is a damn hard game, man! Let people get frustrated!
pro and amsah background laughter is da best
Next on "who's your demon" that guy at your locals who you can't beat
RIP yahoo esports
Yes! YES MOVEMENT!!! I'm a Ganon main and I worked SOOOO hard on my movement. I even manage to make a tech video for it! My movement gave me SOOOO much millage, I even won my local Arcadian and caught up with the guys who were a couple years ahead... Just remember fundamentals.
Black Tiger - Repie whats the best way to work on movement?
I'm assuming you're a Ganon main, it may help other characters too. The easiest movement option I found that remains still very practical was platform wavelands. The timing is consistent, helps his neutral game, and grabs ledge assuming you're facing towards stage. Just BACKWARD full hop through platform and practice your timing. DON'T double jump, I found in the current process of making my Ganon tutorial it's faster by like 4 or less frames? It's faster, trust me. And more consistent. And if you're late on the timing, you get a no impact land on battle and Dream Land!! Win win.
I'd move onto his ledge dash next if you get down to mastering platform wavelands!!
Didn't think I would find you here. ~Nathan~
Black Tiger - Repie wavelands are so huge for ganon since you can more consistently hit those full length wavelands and his aerial mobility isn't spectacular. Love seeing a ganon in motion
Black Tiger - Repie Plup is my favorite player brcause his movement is SO CRISP! He makes Samus anf Luigi look like racecars.
Armada generally has good content on his channel. picks good highlights from his streams with nice straightforward editing. def puts in thought to how to be entertaining and getting fans
One of my good friends plays Puff and after about 20 minutes of friendlies I confronted him about the fact that he very rarely went for rests. I told him to not care about beating me in friendlies and to just learn his rest setups from stuff like when I have to upB to stage as Falcon or when I get put in knockdown from a missed tech. He hesitantly followed my advice and missed almost every rest for the first 5 games or so where I crushed him, but after that he slowly started hitting more and more rests until he could hit 1-2 per game fairly consistently. Play to expose yourself to difficult situations in friendlies and you'll get better extremely quickly.
S/O to Armada for that read at the end. Dude KNEW I didn't have any friends.
I'd like to add - play for fun. Only focusing on improving can burn you out, when you play for fun you'll be more inclined to try new things and might discover new tools, or application of existing tools.
Also, I think playing other characters is a really important step in learning the game on a deeper level, it helps you understand your opponents neutral options and how to beat them. It's not something you want to do right away but it can be really useful especially if you're playing against someone that plays your main character - since you can implement strategies that you haven't figured out how to beat, and see what someone else does which you can implement in your own gameplay. Take falco lasers for example, having trouble beating lasers? pick falco and spam lasers and see how all the opponents in your area hand lasers then implement it into your own gameplay.
Sometimes learning another character can also give extra spice to your main character - tech skill that might have been not worth learning or not obvious to learn might become an extra tool for your main, playing marth might make you better at using dash dance grab as an option, playing captain falcon might give you better awareness of when it's a good time to roll out of pressure, playing samus might give you better ground spacing with tilts.
Taking a break from your main character to work on something else can be refreshing, like I said before you can get burnt out, stuck in bad habits in your neutral and punish game, taking a break by having fun messing around with other characters can give you fresh eyes - allowing you to see your bad habits or not make them anymore, whilst also giving you insight into other components of the game.
I've heard all of this advice but never in the perspective that these three gentlemen have portrayed. Thanks!
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I play Smash 4 competitively and I still found this extremely helpful. Thank you so much!
Fuck smash 4
Nice this stuff works in new Smash games yeeeeeeesssssssssssssss
I am currently having a hard time picking a character. I've been grinding peach for about a month and I was having second thoughts. I don't know who else to play but it's been messing with me a lot today. Watching this has help me get back on track. I'm back to practicing peach and I feel better about it now, thank you Armada.
Thank you Armada this is pretty much the best overall advice that I've ever gotten. Solid. Also thanks to Pro and Amsah for their input. Following all these steps has made me such a better player. Cheers!~
I bet armada doesn't play against Roy very much. I bet I can cheese him
The Bionis you think. Roy has a wet noodle for a sword. Good luck hitting him with it
just upvote the comment instead of disgracing yourself...
just upvote the comment and stop being an ass
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Yo good frickin luk in the peach mu
2:24 "this is a huge flaw with humanity period." Armada is my favorite smasher because of how his brain works. This guy.
It's really not that profound
@@heathc148 but it's funny
I didn't really get the reference here
Just do it in friendlies is a great tip. My friend and I will get together and play like 4 hours of friendlies and we'll go for insane stuff to see if it works because it's friendlies! That's the time for experimenting and seeing what you can do and what you can get away with. These are some great tips overall, awesome video!
One of the best pieces of advice i can give is to watch the pros, sounds obvious but don't watch and enjoy but watch and learn, I've watched m2k play as marth and i analyze his movements and ways of attack and defense to better mine, I've also watched hbox and learned to be a better puff, better movements and rest setups, just watch and take what you can from them and use it in your play style some moves might be better than you realize in some situations, learn how to better your edge guarding, movements, just anything you can
I will say though I'm no great player, i have bettered myself by doing this but some things are difficult for me to add or change to my play style since I'm so used to it, another thing i will say is use a character you're comfortable with you learn the character faster as it just clicks with you
pro and amsah are like the side kicks, they even we have a high voice and a low voice and back up everything he says by laughing
YO!!! This was so much better than watching SSBM tutorials. No offence to them though. Learned a lot
To the analysing thing: it also often helps to watch it with people that don‘t know the game because they have an other view and can think of things you never would
Great advice, really good way to help people figure out what could possibly be holding them back in the long-run.
I like to have a main and a side chatacter that I eork on when I grt bored with my main. Practice with one, switch to the other and practice some more, rinse and repeat. Right now I main Samus and practice Falco on the side.
1. main one character early on
2. be open minded
3. git gud at movement
4. analyze your matches and figure out how to improve
5. play to learn for friendlies not to win
Just started going to tourneys after 2 years of basement sessions and there could not be a better video for me to come across🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very insightful Armada. You have good advice.
I really needed to hear this.
my friend is the guy who can do 10 multishines, but cant ledgedash, wavedash oos, JC grab, JC upsmash... and it frustrated me beyong belief
Nick Levitt Heres advice for jc U-smash. dont use the c stick =P. you should help out your friend more
i mean i can do it all no problem, but he cant, but i appreciate the tip lol
fuck that, switch to claw grip quickly and use thumb for the c stick and index to press Y it's so fast
i cant wavedash oos cus im ass
what is JC?
You forgot "don't get hit"
But honestly, these are some really great tips, and I'll be sure to keep them in mind!
This is probably the funniest I've ever seen Armada. *SAVAGE!*
Has 151 wins vs 7 wins. Lord help these poor souls behind Armada
The point he made was that you need to be able to beat someone, not just to be able to cheese them. If you can beat someone already you can cheese them all you want
Those are stocks
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I main Falco, and have played Melee competitively for around 2 1/2 years. I've only gone to a handful of locals, and I went to Smash Valley VI. The best I have ever played was at SV6 when I took 2 stocks off of Qerb in both of our first matches of the day. Regardless of that, *I have never taken a single game off of anybody.* I have recently been considering changing my main because of my stiff lack in progress, but I really just wish I could get good at Falco. Every single time I hit up a local I end up really disappointed after spending countless hours practicing only to get 2-0'd twice and gain almost nothing from going.
It's probably because you're not going to enough locals and not playing against enough real life people. When you go to locals, stick around and play lots of friendlies. Try to become friends with both players above and around your skill level and play matches with them outside of tournaments. You'd be surprised how quickly you'll improve when you have real life 1v1 practice.
And btw I'm also a Falco main. Stick with it, he's one of the best options in the game and he's by far the most fun character to play imo. For practicing by yourself, I would suggest setting up a level 1 CPU Bowser with handicap on up to 9 and changing your handicap to 1, then changing the launch rate to 0.5. Fight him on FD and just practice doing L-cancelled aerials into shine and up tilt on him over and over. Excellent practice that's really been helping me combo better lately.
In frendlies, I will try to do perfect ledgedashes 90% of the time, even if I SD 35% of the time lol.
Some of these actually really changed my perspective on how to get better, thanks!
For example, I never get to play vs players, only very rarely a few of my friends who don't know any 'techniques' want to play a few friendlies, so from now on I'll make better use of those.
I have a question about the whole 'just play one character' thing: I'm not set on what character I want to main yet, how do I choose which one fits me best? So far I think I play the best with Falco, I have the most fun with Capt. Falcon, I like to play fox every now and then because I think it pushes me the hardest to train new techskill. I also sometimes pull out marth/sheik/puff but much less frequent than the previous 3. I almost always play vs regular cpu since I don't have any mods yet.
Any further advice?
Sees Tip 1. Marth main.
Sees Tip 2. Frequently watches melee livestreams and tutorial videos.
Sees Tip 3. Practices B&B Marth techs.
Sees Tip 4. Currently just doing private recordings of Netplay.
Sees Tip 5. Netplay also applies here.
Alright. Let's go to a tourney!
Sees M2K getting bodied by Chudat.
Let's go practicing my Pocket Peach for 8 hours straight.
good timing I needed this xd
I'm not gonna be that guy
"If your movement is trash, you are trash".
but what about Borp?
PlaceholderName He knows movement, but he chooses not to use it. I think he's an exception.
He's trash dude, name one good borp win
His movement isn't trash, he knows how to use roll walk dash and jump to position himself quite well without ATs to supplement.
his movement is better and more precise than 90% of the people in his region who are obsessed with sloppy dash dances and wavelands/wavedashes. fact
Crazy tech skill will only let you cheese your way so far, it really comes down to fundamentals, with that tech skill coming out as needed.
This is actually an amazing video and should be shown to everyone.
Thanks for the kind words =D
The more people that can learn from it the better it is =D
I agree with the first one he said. Me and my friend were always even, we were exactly 50 50. Though, I trained a lot and stuck with just one character while he would play like 5 or more at a time. Long story short, he hasn't beaten me in months and I never win by any less than a 2 stock.
I think you can add a 6th point: have fun. If you don't have fun, you won't have the motivation to keep learning and practicing.
Dirk van der Velden I guess that kind of goes hand in hand with the point play to learn, not to win.
All of the advice was pretty universal. Thanks armada
I think a lot of this advice doesn't apply to just melee but is what players overall should do.
Armada bodied me when he called out Back-Airing platforms
"This is a huge flaw with humanity period." -- Armada getting philosophical, 2017
"You don't lose at low level because of the match-up"
LOL
If someone could answer this, How do you find a main. I can't find someone I want to stick to and i don't feel myself progressing because of it.
Tbh, I try to win in friendlies whenever there's a rotation because I don't want to sit out for a game, if I can help it. lol
"Try to be open-minded. This is a huge flaw with humanity, tbh"
Knowledgeable dude. In more than just smash
Great now we are going to have a bunch of little Armadas running around
That sub goal for the puff profile picture on twitter should be at 666 subs and it should be on the evo weekend
I've started melee september 2016 and I have an horrible mindset about friendlies and characters, I was always blaming the stupid idea : "this character doesn't fit" so i barely tried half the top 12. I'm conscient of this flaw of mine but i feel like i can't overcome that salt that's makes me sad after losing most of my friendlies.. I know it's fucking stupid to think like that and i really want to change durably on my mindset to get better. Thank you for your advices, hearing them from you makes me more than ever want to overcome my demons !
I feel like if you're having mentality issues with the game it's possible those issues stem from something outside the game. Like a person struggling with depression will find themselves negatively responding to a lot of situations more frequently. In that case it's better to work on the psychological issues you're experiencing rather than in-game issues.
Not saying you're depressed or that this is what your problem is specifically, but I've met a lot of players who don't realize that some of their in-game problems really stem from real life problems
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Not expecting Armada to respond, but if anyone could give input that'd be cool. Basically, I've mained Fox since I was a kid before Brawl came out, but I've only been into the competitive scene for about two years. Anyway, I've started to notice terrible habits with Fox. I know people say to stick to one character, but lately I've been maining another character totally different than Fox so I can break those habits. For one I cannot rely on a better character this way, and two I can't rely on something as good as shine to get me out of shield pressure. This is with the intentions to go back to Fox, but I feel like it may help me move forward in the long run by breaking habits. Make sense, or should I stick with Fox?
BoneyPlatypus that makes some sense but i think in truth you should really just take a short break from melee, maybe a week or so, whilst preferably trying something new in the mean time. Then when you go back, go back and REALLY focus on creating good habits instead. Hope this helps.
thank you for this, it helped broaden my horizon on how to become a better player, and i hope this helps me :)
Hey Armada! Your advice is to take a hit as far as possible, but Mango has a punish game of his own that gives the opponent many ways to get out and he still wins against many people because he keeps winning in neutral and in the RPS situations he makes. Would you suggest to try and be like him?
You can't cheese out everyone, but wobbling is always cheese kappa 🧀
Great videos and insight, but do you think you could instead of having the normal stream layout, you could just have one that is all playercam. The game really doesn't need to be there. Great content though, keep it up Armada!
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This is so valuable. Thanks so much for the 🔥 advice
idk about the review your own play thing because bad players will think the wrong decision is right or vice versa because they dont have the ability to see why its wrong or right in the first place. This is why in other games coaches say just watch high level players not your own gameplay.
I've been playing for about 4 months and this really helps a ton!! the parts on how to look at friendlies and analyze matches, because I try to play with people alot better than me and just ask for advice because I didn't know how to figure things out myself. could you do a video on dealing falco lasers tho?? as fox
General life advice tbh
Armada now sponsored by Nike?
Tip 5: Just Do It.
Great video
Great video, really useful!
Is that the sheik comeback king?
Yes finally stick to 1 character I have buddies that complain why they are not getting better after putting a few weeks into a character then switching to another then goes back to the old character and lost what they learned it never ends no matter how many times I tell them
Been playing for a year and have good wins in my local area. But i'm honestly still a beginner since some of these tips hit me hard lol.
Here's a great tip if you want to get good at Melee: Don't quit
Best advice.
Guess I'm sticking with Roy
I'm gonna be a jobber for life
really good advice!!!
Appreciate the advice
I would summarize this video as: listen to PP
Epic cliq
Professor Pro's accent
I feel like I'm in that low level for life status. Trying to break out of it. And I really can't seem to find the mindset these other mid-level players around me have. I have my character. But my mindset and thumbs seem to have trouble following up.
you aight, homie?? lol
Reiden Lightman keep your head up homie
Just gotta keep practicing until things become second nature. The only way to get your thumbs to catch up is to practice practice practice. More importantly, when you're practicing, make sure it's good practice. Practice on specific things, with a measurable goal. Don't just "practice," practice wavedashing across the stage, and not missing a single one. Reset every time you miss.
Practice shffl'd aerials and do 10 in a row without fail. If you miss one, you need to work on that specific skill before other skills.
Too many players practice without a specific goal, then wonder why they aren't improving
One thing that helped me was to stop thinking of moves as multiple inputs and start thinking of them as a single action that I had to learn.
Improving is simple. Learn what's holding you back. Practice the solution until it's no longer holding you back. Repeat as necessary.
Number 6: Do not approach!
4:05 have you seen Borp? He directly contradicts this.
Drew Giulini Armada made that point in reference to the new wave of players that think only tech skill can make them better players. Borp's success comes from his great neutral game and fully understanding the limits and capabilities of his extra basic toolset. If Borp decided to complement that with expanded tech and movement options, he'd be even more insane.
Drew Giulini what borp does can be considered harder than learning more advanced technology. most top level players may not need it but it simplifies a lot
thank you
Don't get hit
Another tip: Take advantage of netplay. New builds have made lag non-existant
The open minded thing got me, lol.
"you dont lose at low level because of matchup" is the most flawed argument I hear pro players spread all the time. something like a falcon falco game is maybe 30:70 oder 40:60 at the highest level, but can VERY easily be a 20:80 or worse matchup if both players are on the same level somewhere at an early novice/intermediate phase. Actually in this scenario the falcon has to play SO much more better that "just get better" actually becomes somewhat ridiculous of a statement since becoming better (compared to your opponents) will always lead to better results no matter what.
From my point of view it is actually the opposite: Some matchups are so damn polarizing in the lower skill levels that matchups are way more defining down there than in the very high skill regions.
In lower level play, it's not character matchups, it's playstyle matchups.
I play fox, And in melee I do this. But in my main game sm4sh I love cheesing ppl, when they are worse than me.
any advice on integrating tech skill into my play like wavedashing? I'm a Sheik main... *flame shield up*
Nster this is gonna sound really weird, but try forcing yourself to wavedash only for movement in matches against a friend. dont take the results seriously, but you'll see that after a while it'll start feeling natural. once thats the case, it'll be a part of your movement from now on out. just make sure you're not doing it too much, as dashing is better in some cases. best of luck!
Noah Twigg thank you!
Nster it goes for other things too, like ledge dashes (only use those for a match every now and then) or tech chases (have that as the only punish for real damage you can do up to a certain percent). anything you feel you need to implement, have that as the exclusive option you use for a couple matches in a row, then go back to normal play. if you catch yourself doing that option too much after those matches, make a mental note of that and have an answer once that new habit of yours gets punished
What about when practicing by yourself tho? (only have vanilla melee)
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