EHLERS, NECAS, & YZERMAN'S TRADE TARGETS - Winged Wheel Podcast - May 19th, 2024
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- Will Steve Yzerman's adjustments to the Detroit Red Wings come through the form of a trade - or multiple?
Tune in as we discuss potential Hockeytown trade targets, including Nikolaj Ehlers of the Winnipeg Jets (3:05), Martin Necas of the Carolina Hurricanes (15:45), and Timothy Lilejegren of the Toronto Maple Leafs (22:00) - is 15th overall in play, would they take a contract like Holl's, would a key player like Jake Walman or high end prospect like Kasper have to move, & more!
Next, an update as Nate Danielson ends his time with the Portland Winterhawks and joins Cossa, Edvinsson, Kasper, Mazur, Watson & Co. with the Grand Rapids Griffins for their AHL Calder Cup playoff run (36:40).
After that, our 2024 NHL Draft Prospect Profile on Liam Greentree and how he compares to Michael Rasmussen (42:15).
Finally, we update you on the Stanley Cup Playoffs, including Marchand and the Bruins falling to the Panthers, Andersen and the Hurricanes losing to Kreider, Shesterkin and the Rangers, McDavid & the Oilers going to game 7 vs. the Canucks, and the Dallas Stars taking out the Colorado Avalanche (52:10). Also, Craig Berube to the Toronto Maple Leafs, and Rod Brind'Amour staying in Carolina, Matvei Michkov coming to Philadelphia, and a note on Darren Dutchyshen (1:04:00) before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:09:50) - enjoy!
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We should go after Necas 100%. Been pounding the table on this for a couple years now
Necas for sure!! not a guy who is 28 and giving up our 15th overall pick
I think Kasper and Danielson should be on the Roster. Kasper has shown he is capable of playing and has the size and ability. They need the Experience.
Should have drafted Necas in the first place. It was down to Rasmussen and Necas on their list in 2018 which was a rather thin draft anyways. Rasmussen had less even strength goals and was a PP specialist.
Holland's mysterious draft decisions
2017, but yeah I totally agree.
Things really got bad when Jim Nill left for Dallas and took Joe McDonnell with him. Look at Dallas's roster / scouting /drafts since Nill went to Dallas and tell me who was the best GM we had in Detroit. Here's a clue - we held on to the worst one the longest
Went to the GR vs. Milwaukee game 1 last week. Kaspers far side top shelf roofer was sweet in person to suck the energy out of the milwaukee crowd!
LGR!! MY 2nd fave team, excellent commentary, great crowd! Always entertaining...almost want to buy a Trouba jersey...I live in Winnipeg...so that might burn Jet fans..😅
Is chaos giraffe Tyler Myers?
Drunk Evan is best Evan 😂
OHHHH WHOAAAA OHHH OHH OH
Are you guys for or against trading away the pick. There's a lot of flashy minor league numbers with these prospects but I find myself underwhelmed of hoping for another steal pick like Cossa or ASP at 15. It just doesn't seem like there's a lot of high hopes past the top 10-12 picks this year but maybe that's just me?
Wasn't Necas tossed all around the lineup most of the time with not a lot of PP time? He really could get more points next to Larkin 5v5 and on the PP with us, the talent is there.
What I want to know is why there appeared to be no communication between Lalonde and Steve about Justin Holl. Not sure why Steve would sign a 3 year contract on a guy that Lalonde doesn't play. It's not like Lalonde didn't know Holl's playstyle and it's not like Steve didn't know Lalonde's structure and how he coaches. For him to just never use Holl is super weird that he got a 3 year deal, such a shame and waste of money.
Remember Holl was signed before Petry was available for trade. I'm sure Holl would have played more had we not traded for Petry.
That was on Yzerman - no idea what he was thinking with that one - and that was the response nearly universally . I had watched a lot of leafs games - and I was thinking WTF are they seeing that no one else is . Garage sales ain't working
How many cups did we win when Zetterburg and Datsyuk were in their late 30s ect.
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Marty Necas and Filip Zadina are really really good friends. He's not coming to Detroit
Hope you joke right ?
@user-ed6nt1ml6p seriously they're close friends
@@hockeytownluv2012yes I know Lol but finally got it you say that because Zadina had bad experience to Detroit but it was mostly his fault so it would be unfair if he advise Necas to not going to Detroit based on that
@user-ed6nt1ml6p no but I don't believe Zadina would recommend Detroit
@@user-ed6nt1ml6p yeah it was Zadinas fault Blashill put him on a line with guys like Nielsen, Glendening and Erne and expected him to do anything
What would you guys be comfortable giving up for Martin Necas? Detroit's 2026 1st round draft pick (top 10 protected) Detroit's 2027 3rd round draft pick, Joe Veleno and Justin Holl (at 50% retained).
Detroit's 2024-2025 projected line-up:
DeBrincat Larkin Raymond
Mazur Necas Danielson
Kasper Compher Berggren
Rasmussen Copp Fabbri
Edvidsson Seider
Walman Maatta
Chiarot Petry
Johansson
Lyon
Husso
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Cossa
Berggren, Fabbri, and a 1/2 round pick depending on how hard Carolina negotiates. Carolina is going to want to replace Necas offense for cheap and I still don’t believe Yzerman views Berggren as part of the future. If the Wings are confident Kane will resign I’d be comfortable moving Fabbri to open up a roster spot and clear some cap. I’m not to worried about picks because they’ve already made a ton of selections and the team is supposed to start being good and a Necas is more valuable than a late first imo.
Would love to see Yzerman re-sign Kane. I could see Fabbri getting traded during the draft as well. Fabbri, Berggren are key trade candidates.
@@justinshields3819 I like Fabbri but he’s pretty replaceable especially if they want to add some rookies next year. He’s only got 1 year left I think and in a trade he’s be a solid replacement for a team trading a productive player.
Canes aren’t taking holl
If the Canes leaves Necas it Will be for a good roster player or a good prospect (Bergy) and obviously this year Red Wings draft pick or I'd be surprised if they accept the 2025 or 2026 1st round pick but I doubt it especially for the 2026 draft pick
I’m ok on Liljigren, he’s fine but we need people that can play defense
Ras is ac30+ point player not worth his recent Contract. Veleno is the same and change is needed. Bergs is probably wanting a trade I would not blame him because the coach is not good with players.!!! He calls out the young players for defense and not the vets and we know what players I am talking about.,we don’t need anymore busts. KH fast tracked Ras who I was hooked would be a power forward but he doesn’t have it in him.
I'm in on Necas as an RFA. Not as sold on Ehlers on an expiring contract, don't want to overpay a 60pt winger.
Ryan is right with Nay-Chass. He confirms it in this video….after pronouncing it wrong twice himself 😂 😂
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They def moved it bc he was in jail
Wings should not trade first round pick. They need to move some defensemen. Need room for 2 or 3 from Grand Rapids
If red wings are going to be better it will have to come from within not through trades
Be stupid to deal kasper and hard no on liljigren . Target roy and play Albert johansson on the right side
Necas > Ehlers. Don't get me wrong, Ehlers would be a help, but by the time our contention window opens, he'll be an old dude on the roster. Could he help us get to the playoffs? Sure. But we're not gonna go very far.
...furthermore, 100% on board with Copp and Holl. Complete disasters. If there's a way to dump those contracts, we absolutely should. Maybe there'll be a team who needs to reach the cap floor and can take one of these off our hands. I know Stevie didn't sign those players for the roles they eventually landed in on this team. Copp was brought in to be a second liner, and Holl on the second D pairing. Instead, Copp played some nights on the fourth line, and Holl spent the year getting acquainted with the press box.
Make the playoffs with the future not FA and trades that may not turn out like let’s say a Copp.
Dont want anything to do with Ehlers. Between what it will cost to get him and the extension he's going to require, it's just not worth it. Necas wouldnt be a bad pickup, but honestly, it wont make much of a difference. We dont have a superstar, nor do I see where we get one. Without a superstar, we arent going anywhere anytime soon.
Hard pass on both . 60 pt guys (necas had one 70 pt season and a bunch of meh ones) who will want big money (necas apparently wants 7.75)and ehlers has one year left. Not to mention the assets and seider and raymond needing new deals
Now if we’re willing to move debrincat and his salary to replace him necas that’s something else but a lot of ppl think debrincat is better than he is
He is not Iiiilers, he is Eeehlers.
Name: Necas
Brad: Naychash 😂
It is so tired scapegoating Holland.
not tired at all. that guy effed us for a decade
He hired his bud Tyler Wright to be head of amateur scouting.
Wright had been fired from Columbus for multiple years of poor results at the draft.
You can call it scapegoating all you like, it's objectively true criticism. The guy set the franchise back a decade with his drafting and signings.
The saying years of rebuild don’t matter and we shouldn’t feel impatient because holland was in charge is getting old. I’ll agree on that. He was an unmitigated disaster at signings and drafting his last half dozen years with the Wings though.
holland mortgaged the future just to keep the stupid playoff streak alive