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Roland Fantom 6 - How to Record & Chop Samples
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- I got a lot of questions about sampling and chopping on the new Roland Fantom, this video shows how it works.
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The new Fantom is missing a lot of functions but there is ways to get around it and get the job done. It is just a shame Roland did not perfect this keyboard before releasing it. I have seen Roland fall out of touch with their customers in the last 10 years but I must admit they do have the killer sounds I just love.
Very right it is very shame for Roland that they launched Fantom as the beta tester. Not stable, freezing, basic features are missing from the unit and in sequence too and OS is not solid as it should be. Next major firmware upgrade will reveal all, I mean coming this namm January 2020. If the firmware is not good this will definitely affect the sales of Fantom coz no body has a time and patience for beta tester machines.
Indeed it is. I'm surprised it doesn't have more robust sampling but hey, at least there is something there to work with. I know they've added features to previous models so I guess we'll see what they do.
@@SoundsAndGear They have to add features and things you have mentioned above, else pro users and earlier Roland fantom series users won't buy it and if I see online mostly people are returning Fantom and they are ready for retoure coz of OS is not yet stable and freezing bla bla........ Who will buy the premium machine. Very expensive and which gets freeze........
Yeah I think they will update it, they put some pretty powerful chips in there. I've heard they will be adding the model engines from the Jupiter, so I'd imagine they will probably be updating the sampler/sequencer at some point too. We will see, I am interested to see how it grows but imagine those that really want/use sampling will hold off for now.
@@SoundsAndGear Yes.. Absolutely right.
I love your channel bro. Please upload more about Fantom if you possibly can!
Thanks for the support fam!
Thank you very much for sharing.
I really love to work with the new Fantom, this is an amazing workstation.
Thanks for watching!
Good explanation! Thanks and look forward to learning more from your efforts!
Thanks for watching!
Great video on sampling, and using the pads in a Zone!
Thanks for watching!
For the price they should have thrown in the MV-8800's sampling engine along with it's daw style seq. In fact we need a new MV-8800 AND Roland should make it's own DAW to work with their gear
That would have been great! MV was one of my favorite boxes
***** star tutorial video. Keep up the good work bro..........
Thanks for watching!
You can make them cut each other off by using the loop edit menu in the area for editing patters.
Cool
weird the 2009 fantom g6,g7,g8 has auto chop and it can be chopped for the wave as well as assign to keys and the 16 pads. You can even change the chop points per pad
Not sure if they've updated it the new one since I tried it, I know they've made quite a few updates since then.
The Roland Fantom is a beast!
Indeed
@@SoundsAndGear I was looking at the Montage 8 to upgrade from my MOXF8 but it would make more sense to go with the Fantom 8 and try something new and create new sounds too.
I hear ya!
It would be dope if they have 4 banks per scene or project. I just got my fantom yesterday and can’t wait to get it. I use the MPC x mainly for my drum programming and sequencing and will be using the fantom as my go to sound creation aside from reason. Thanks.
Nice! And yeah, per project would be dope.
excellent video as usual bro
Thanks fam! Appreciate the comment.
Sir how to connect audio input and which cable we should use..
I used 1/4" cables
Can you please give me the link for buying or else image link of 1/4 cable
Also please tell me where should i connect this
@@SangeethodayaMusic It depends on what you're hooking it up to, but the Fantom has 1/4 inch inputs, the cable would look like this on one end amzn.to/2xy3k0l
The other end may look the same if your device also has 1/4 inch outputs. You connect them in the back of the Fantom in the inputs like shown in the video.
I didnt understood
GREAT VIDEO !
Thanks for watching
Please make viedo about multisampling sir please
I no longer have this, but as far as I know, they do not have multi sampling in there yet
But I heard in some official video of roland that sampler has a separate dedicated engine. So soon more powerful features will be added. Rest time will tell ;-)
Yeah, the sampling memory is totally separate, it just stays in there. So I'm sure they will update it in the future, right now it's super basic but nothing they can't update with a new OS/features.
You make dawless look so easy
Ha! They don't really have much by way of sampling so not too difficult. I love working outside of the daw, tha'ts how I started so just feels good. I'm sure it would be easy for you too though! Thanks for watching!
Hello, thanks for this video. This is a message from France (sorry for my english...) : can we record an audio sample (a guitar thru the audio input) while the sequencer is running ? Thanks a lot.
Not sure, I haven't tried it.
Thank u thank u
Thanks for watching.
Hey brother, can you live sample and lazy chop to the keys
like on the old fantom before the G series
if I recall, you can only sample to the pads
Absolutely not, the fantom is light years in chopping behind the old fantom. they are not created equal. The new one gets a C- compared to the old one. You are forced to sample to pads which is crazy when you could live sample across all the keys and slice the samples as you do it.
Nice
Thanks for watching!
A nice sp 404
Yeah pretty much, something simple, but you can make it work.
This video was very helpful!! Do you think you can make a video on how to upload a midi file from your usb to the pattern sequencer and get it to play? I’ve been struggling with this and could use some help
Thanks for watching! I'm not a big MIDI user so not sure if that's something I would do a video on, I'll take note of it just in case, but can't make any promises.
Good evening,
I was very interested in your demonstration concerning the sampling on the Fantom. Thank you so much .
So I have a few questions to ask you:
1: Is it possible to sample a scene from the Fantom for 5 to 10 minutes without stopping? (scene including several different sounds, of course!)
2: If so, will there be enough internal memory for this? (or on a USB stick?)
3: Then, if I make wrong notes, can I correct them? If yes, how ?
4: Finally, if this recording mode works, will I be able to export this sample (in fact: a song!) in .wav format on a USB key?
I am used to creating songs on my synths (Kronos, ..) in 'real time' and improvising without counting the time spent or the number of bars to exceed.
But with the Fantom, you cannot exceed 32 bars! This is why I would like to know if this sampling mode will allow me to record without time limit or bars.
Thank you very much in advance for responding to me.
Ps: I haven't bought the Fantom yet, and your answers will be of great importance to me.
Kind regards. Pierrot
I no longer have this so I'm not sure, but I don't know that you would be able to change notes in a sample after it is recorded as it is not MIDI data.
@@SoundsAndGear
Thanks a lot for your answer .
Kind regards. Pierrot
@@PierreSIBANARCO no problem
If u had to pick one; Kronos, Montage, or Fantom?
I haven't spent much time with the Kronos so I can't speak on that one. Between Montage and Fantom it depends on how I plan to work. If I'm just using it as a sound source and recording elsewhere (MPC, Maschine, iPad, Live) then I'd probably say Montage right now just due to the flavor of sounds it has. I tend to gravitate more towards the acoustic sounds on there. If I wanted something that I can just sit down and knock out ideas with on it's own, the Fantom's workflow is better. The sequencer is much smooth and the navigation/gui is really easy to navigate which makes it easy to design sounds on. The Montage is a bit more mature so we'll really see what's up after Roland adds a few more updates. I think it can take the crown if they handle it right.
You can turn on Loop SW on the lower left in the pattern screen, then a little green tick apperars on the sample if it’s on a square in a track on a Pad Zone.
Cool! No longer have this, but I know they've done quite a few more updates since I had it.
Thanks for the helpful video. It's worth emphasising: the lack of velocity sensitivity on the pads is a criminal omission for a £2k+ machine. I guess you can assign the zones to keys and then trigger from an external pad controller, but you lose the visual feedback and sadly it's a humiliating workaround for a top of the line workstation. Love the fantom in other respects though.
I agree, should be velocity sensitive.
How do you time strectch inside the fantom big bro
Not sure, I only had this for a few months to test out and sent it back.
[QUESTION] I use Magix's Music Maker Premium on desktop to produce all of my work. It's not the best software I know, but it's where I started and learned. I'm thinking about getting back into creating and was looking at the Roland Fantom workstations. My question to someone who owns a Fantom, will the workstation communicate directly with any desktop software via USB to import/export, edit sounds etc?
You can send audio/midi via USB, not sure about editing the sounds. I don't remember if they made an editor for it or not. I no longer have this.
You can Import and export not only internal tones but with the latest 1.60 iOS update you can also import and export compete scenes with all sequences patterns and preferred tones selection. You can edit all of internal ~9000 sounds and control external sound devices via USB or your favorite desktop software or VST's etc.
@@kirilladm8525 How do you edit the sounds on your computer?
SoundsAndGear I don’t use any DAW bc Fantom is powerful enough to produce music and mix even without any computer attached,
@@kirilladm8525 She asked about editing sounds in a DAW via USB
Is there no crossfade on the loop point?
Been a while since I had this board, but I don't think so.
Thanks bro for the great video. Is there a way to add the on board effects to the samples?
Thanks for watching, no longer have this so can't check it out
How do I sample my vinyl to the Fantom. I noticed that you sampled from your iPad- can you do the same from the headphone Jack of the record Amplifier to the Fantom…..
audio out from your mixer/record player, into the fantom
@@SoundsAndGear top man,many thanks for your reply.
@@philipslade6810 no problem
Fantom not playing around....pretty dope
Thanks for checking bro!
Hey I wondered if this has been updated as of August 2020. Is it at all possible to layout a chop/ key and use track 10 for drums, track one for chops, 2 for bass, etc? Old Akai Samplers used to let you assign a track and note range per chop/ sound. Anything similar on this?
I don't know, but I don't think so. I no longer have this workstation.
If you record the samples into track 1 like you did. Can you repeat the whole process again on track 2 using different samples assigned to different pads and zones. Can the 16 track sequencer record 16 tracks of zoned samples? New to this terminology sry
I haven't had this for a while, not sure, I don't recall if that's possible.
GREAT VIDEO !! I did not know ! ALL HAIL "CLIPBOARD" !!! Had an MV flashback when I saw you do that.
Thanks for watching! Yeah...the MV was a beast!
Lol yeah this is why I stick with Akai. But its possible they made this different in order to leave an opening for another version of the MV series.
Man I'm not holding my breath on a new MV lol, I think they will update the sampling options on the Fantom eventually though.
@@SoundsAndGear This is one of the many reasons I’ll still keep my Fantom G and MV-8800. Not holding my breath either for Roland.
@@fmagic2000able I feel you!
Very useful video.. thank you.. just wondering if I could plug my electric/ electric acoustic guitars into this keyboard and record ?.
You probably could, just depends on what you want to do with it.
@@SoundsAndGear Hoping to lay something down with the synth first then add in some real guitar too
@@XENONEZZ2 You should be able to sample it, but it isn't a linear audio recorder setup.
@@SoundsAndGear Ah I see....So maybe the Korg Kronos might be the way to go...I believe that has linear recording
@@XENONEZZ2 Yeah, it has full audio track recording I believe.
Hi! Does this synthesizer have a voice processor like the Korg Pa4x. Thanks!
I think there's a vocoder, not sure, no longer have this.
@@SoundsAndGear Thank you, thank you very much, friend!
The chopping is just incredibly easy from what you demonstrated but if i got right,you said the size of the samples should be on the size of a phrase or isolated drums,so it couldn't work as a sampler workstation like akai mpc 2000 or mv 8000 that at somepoint you did mentioned,did i got it right?
Thanks for watching. Not sure I understand the question though. But it does not multisample, meaning, you can't sample and create actual instruments from the samples. It is basically a loop, phrase, single sample trigger type of workflow.
@@SoundsAndGear You answered my question in a way,thanks for bothering.Pretty informative video even for someone that has no idea of these kind of musical equipment.
no problem
Can the sampler record via the input to a pad while the sequencer is playing
Not sure, I no longer have this.
Sure it is, and btw that`s the only way to export your sequence to an external USB as an audio file
Great tut my brother... say... on the pads... can you make them louder or lower per each pad? So if pad 1 is my kick can I make it say a full 127 and say my snare on pad 2 can I lower it to 85 manually? Thanks for this great tut my bro. I have The Roland Fantom X6 and was thinking of stepping up to a new Roland but b4 I buy i need opinion my friend?!!
Sorry I no longer have this so I'm not sure if you can set the level specifically per pad. I initially responded but thought it was on an mpc video lol.
@@SoundsAndGear word... thanks for atleast reaching out to me bro! God Bless
@@UniqueTouch No doubt fam!
Would I be able to resample an internal sound, but through external HW effects?
That would be up to your routing setup, you'd basically just be sending the output to your fx and back in through the input.
Hi Joe I finally bought it. Thanks for all your help over the years. I just got my Fantom yesterday and I need help. Can a person use 2 different instances of pads on 2 different zones. I want to use one pad for vocal zone and one for one shot drums. Is it possible.
As far as I remember, there is only 1 set of pads, so not multiple zones, or multiple tracks. Unless they changed it in an update. I no longer have it so I can't check.
you have 64 pads and you can assign up to 64 audio clips and use it the way you prefer (vocal or drums or whatsoever)
@@kirilladm8525 Correct, but still 1 set, you do not get a new set of 64 pads for different uses. Very strange how they did that. You can't even have different pad sets per project/song.
Does this apply for the classic fa 06 or original fa 06 as well
I don't know, I doubt it works the same way.
How does it compare to the Kronos 2 for recording samples and spread them across the keypad like the Kronos 2 can do.
I do not have experience with Kronos, but currently Fantom can't record samples to be used as new instruments, it only records to the pads.
@Geo Leech Yeah the sampler is nothing like that in the Kronos, mainly just a phrase/loop or oneshot thing.
@Geo Leech Yeah, it definitely isn't like previous Fantoms
Have they added a new OS patch yet/improved the sampler?
Not that I know of
Does it have skip back sampling?
It does not, at least not when I had it, unless I missed it. Definitely wasn't a dedicated button for it. I remember that from my first fantom (fantom-s) very useful.
@@SoundsAndGear thanks, yeah it's a fantastic feature that I use all the time.
@@paulaustinbailey no doubt
Fantom Mini maybe? Then we in business👍🏾
Hahaha, that would be interesting for sure.
I must start by saying that I’ve always been and will be a big fan of Roland. Just from looking at this video it kinda seems like Roland is far behind computer programs like maschine Ableton fl ect. Could be because it’s a fairly new product but sampling seems much more easier on my maschine than this. Again I’ve always loved Roland products but they have to step it up. As a producer there are work arounds like you’re showing just takes the creative mind but having to work to hard to chop a sample can kill the vibe
I definitely would not consider their sampler to be in the same realm as Maschine, Ableton, MPC, and other dedicated samplers. They could improve it if they want to...but who knows if they will or not hahaha.
Do you know of any other keyboards that are capable of chopping? The price is kinda steep for the Phantom. If anything a Roland F08 for the 88 keys. Thanks for the vid
Like an ASR-10
That's new? Maybe the Korg Kronos?
Can Montage do this type of thing?
Not that I know of, hadn't tried it though
Dope
Thanks for checking bro!
Do you have the i louds to
I see you like yours for the back instead of near
I just got the phantom 8 two days ago
Yeah I have the iLouds, love em!
I'm not lazy
I can find out for myself
but does the phantom
have a built in interface like the montage
I know it can't play audio from the computer but
Yes, it shows up as an interface.
@@SoundsAndGear I already upgraded I'm downloading
I haven't got it to work with Pro Tools Or show up as a interface
I have a plate thank you
you are the man
my plate is full
There is room for improvements. Roland should seek counseling and consultation from The Legendary Roger Lynn.
LOL thanks for watching.
If it could sample like my MPC, I wouldn’t need anything else. It would be the ultimate tool. But with such limited sampling and memory, it’s just another tool in the studio.
I hear ya!
So is like an MPC?!?!?
I wouldn't say that
@@SoundsAndGear why not?.
@@jmkeybass760 Because it is not like an MPC in my opinion. MPC is more flexible with sample manipulation, etc.
@@SoundsAndGear thanks for the input. I was thinking I can use Fantom as something like MPC. I already have a Kronos SE but the sequencer is not flexible as MPC Live 2. Well, maybe I just need to buy the MPC Live 2 again and forget about selling my Kronos and just buy the Fantom.
Is this like a new age asr 10?
Not really in my opinion but I guess it could be for some.
they went backwards with this keyboard ,sampling should be like the mv8800 or better smh thats why i never brought the 06
Thanks for watching.
why would they remove the full sampler and choppin features , that is so lame Roland , how are yaw goin backwards with the production of music? Roland this is bad guys smdh ... MV 8800 / MV 8000 and Fantom x6 and g6 i still the ultimate sampler workstation ...but the MV series is the absolute best sampler workstation they ever made....1000% facts
Loved the MV!!
Kinda lame thats it doesn't chop, time stretch, or have velocity sensitive pads Just give us what we want smh.
The pads are the kicker for me, all of the other stuff could be added. I'd use the pads for drums and such though. I'm not really trying to chop/sample on here but I'd love some audio tracks LOL.
That's so dum they should've kept it like the fantom x series , phrase sampling with all that power is dum they need to revamp the x6 series keep it the same just upgrade the CPU, sequencer and sounds and sample engine ...the x6 series was a true workstation roland is goin backwards I will not be buying that machine I'll stick to the MPC keys
I hear ya!