10 Tips for Beginners in Middle Earth SBG

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  • čas přidán 16. 08. 2022
  • When you are just starting out in Middle Earth there is a lot to learn! Hopefully these 10 tips will help you get started!
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  • @bigj7424
    @bigj7424 Před rokem +78

    Just ordered the battle of pelennor fields box, I’m very excited to get started! Your videos really helped me to pull the trigger!

    • @BattleCamperHome
      @BattleCamperHome Před rokem +3

      Welcome to the game! I promise you won't regret it

    • @thomasevans6868
      @thomasevans6868 Před rokem +3

      If you end up loving it a new box set will be released this Christmas! The battle of Osgiliath! You could effortlessly recreate the battle of Pelennor fields with both of these box sets and see which army you prefer painting… Mordor, Rohan, or Gondor!

    • @bigj7424
      @bigj7424 Před rokem +2

      Yes I’ve been following that box set closely. In the end I decided to go with pelennor because I prefer Rohan and the leaders included but I’m excited to see what kind of price osgiliath is sold at. I might very well pick it up when it does come out as long as it’s not much more expensive.

    • @stuartc9279
      @stuartc9279 Před rokem +1

      I also bought that boxset to try and get back into it from when I was a kid, painted a bunch of the minis and now trying to wrap my head around how to play the game now!

  • @carsonhoward9489
    @carsonhoward9489 Před rokem +44

    I played a small match of 12 goblins vs 12 goblins with my 4 year old. I moved her pieces for her and she loved rolling the dice. She won. Her dice rolling skills are impeccable. Started getting my paints to paint up the batch I have and then I’ll buy some more Moria. Or I’ll buy a different faction to force my friends to play against me. Have to start somewhere.

    • @kelvingriffiths6017
      @kelvingriffiths6017 Před 8 měsíci

      Moria goblins are a good starter anyway. Easy to convert basic plasric guys into the more elite kinds, plus cheap troop coat gets you a lotta guys and points spare for heavy hitters. Just dont go balrog, 400points of goblins will always be better than one huge paperweight.

    • @NoahTucker-kv5nq
      @NoahTucker-kv5nq Před 6 měsíci +1

      I think u lost because of ur skill issue 😅😅

    • @kelvingriffiths6017
      @kelvingriffiths6017 Před 6 měsíci

      @@NoahTucker-kv5nq Nah man. Little girls are unexpextedly savage at wargames. My daughter absolutley destroyed me in a game of GF9s Tanks last year. Some of it was the dice gods, some of it being the wolf in sheeps clothing lol

  • @rosstasker8590
    @rosstasker8590 Před 3 měsíci +4

    “Go to a tournament, you won’t get smashed by experienced players”
    Goes to tournament, Jacob SMASHES me. That clever tactic he employed of “let the other guy roll really badly”

  • @robertfisher8359
    @robertfisher8359 Před rokem +12

    Something I'll dispute is Tip #10: Go to tournaments. My brother actively avoids them because there are people who will bring armies that actively break the game. Angmar with spectres shutting down your army or certain legendary legions which effectively say "night fight for thee, but not for me" while raking arrows into him at the full 24" range. In both cases, he couldn't play the scenario, nor could he rush forward and kill things. He just had to sit there and let his opponent do...well...everything for the entire game (both of them with the aforementioned forces).
    What's more important is to try gauging your gaming community to see how competitive/casual they are and decide if that's the kind of crowd you want to game in. There may be some people who are WAAC, and - if that's your thing - then join in. There are also players who enjoy purely narrative game. Lastly there are some who want a balance between the two: a balanced game between two armies with certain themes that may not be the best in game terms, but gives them the warm fussies without being completely ineffective. Once you figure out who you want to play with, then start playing some games. The key thing to remember on this point is that, whether MESBG or anything else, people are different. They want different things. If the people around you want something different from you, that doesn't make them right and you wrong, or vice versa. Games Workshop no longer has a monopoly on the tabletop wargaming market like they did 10-20 years ago. Find the game and players you want to have fun with and go have fun!

    • @michaelpapadopoulos3756
      @michaelpapadopoulos3756 Před rokem +1

      I've been playing LOTR SBG since it first game out in 2001 (just before the first movie). I went to several tournments in that time and did not like them at all. There was always a mixof little kids and grown ups with one particular group (called the Heroes of the Third Age) who would build super tooled armies. One guy came to the battle with three Uruk-hai ballista's and lined them up on the only hill on the field, taking pot shots at my Gondorians as they tried to cross the no man's land. What made things worse was one of his mates wandered over during the game and started bragging about he was wasting his opponent (a kid who was less then 10 years old while he was easily late 30s or early 40s) I asked him if he'd finished his match and when he said no I asked him what he was doing over here then. His response was "chatting with my mate" so I said "chat to your mate later. Go finish your game".

    • @pickledblowfish6178
      @pickledblowfish6178 Před rokem

      If you go to a tournament, prepare to fight in a competitive event. Otherwise, look for a narrative event nearby. At least in 40k, clubs love running these. It lets everyone loosened the belt, and play for fun. In a ranked event, you're there to win, period.
      I've only seen individuals at tournaments that's mentioned in the video, taking subpar units because it's cool and fun. More often then not it's 80-90% power gaming. Which is fine, just be prepared for it.

    • @kelvingriffiths6017
      @kelvingriffiths6017 Před 8 měsíci

      I agree. Been in moddle earth since it started. Tournament was the worst experience ever. And it happened at warhanmer world too.

  • @leeroy8528
    @leeroy8528 Před rokem +24

    Great tips. Would love to see breakdown of heroic actions and how to use them effectively, combo them etc...

  • @HeFromBelow
    @HeFromBelow Před rokem +2

    Following already for a long time, and seeing you grow (literally) too as the years pass. You guys are great, and great to see this community still strong.

  • @andrewthompson7645
    @andrewthompson7645 Před rokem +2

    Another excellent video. Really like your relaxed presenting style! Great terrain too!

  • @andrewobrien835
    @andrewobrien835 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the advice 👍 love your Top 10 videos and really looking forward to the rest of the conquest league

  • @deanparsons2895
    @deanparsons2895 Před rokem +6

    Hello! I'm really enjoying your videos! Would you please be able to do one explaining all the special weapon rules; stabbing, shielding, etc. I have read the rulesbook but it's alot to remember, so a video presented by you would be perfect and so helpful, and I'm sure others would find it super useful too! :)

  • @shadowknight8345
    @shadowknight8345 Před rokem

    Fantastic video as always. I have my first tournament next weekend and I am buzzing for it

  • @joemountains1539
    @joemountains1539 Před rokem +1

    Keep them coming! I love these kinds of tips….

  • @joshmortimer3433
    @joshmortimer3433 Před rokem +1

    Love the video. Good ideas for new players... Just need to crack open the Rules book and learn the rules now. Hope you get to do another top 10 tips part 2 for beginners

  • @wardemon5933
    @wardemon5933 Před rokem

    Great video! I just started playing with a friend of mine and can surely use some of your tips.

  • @alastairtivy-harris8129

    Great video! Would love to see more like this!

  • @olivergunson
    @olivergunson Před rokem +1

    Very cool video, would be interested in giving Middle earth a go if ever given the opportunity, I actually finally got to see it being played at my local game store quite recently and it looked like it was good fun.

  • @johnlogan697
    @johnlogan697 Před rokem

    Cheers, so true about the tournaments, I finally got to a Warmachine tournament at TTG, there were plenty of high level players, including interstate and players soon to head over seas for the world champs, sounded dauting, but no, they were all super cool, relaxed and had a great sense of humour. I can't wait to get to the next tournament.

  • @TiagoRamosVideos
    @TiagoRamosVideos Před rokem

    Great tips! Thanks Jacob 👌

  • @themanabroad7800
    @themanabroad7800 Před rokem

    I just started playing, more videos please! This was super useful.

  • @MnMStrike
    @MnMStrike Před rokem

    Great content! Keep doing videos, follow by Italy!

  • @johndelorean1423
    @johndelorean1423 Před rokem +1

    Legolas on the Wall 🤣 .Great Video learnd a lot of your Videos thx

  • @naphtoe622
    @naphtoe622 Před rokem

    Great tips. Thanks!

  • @FaMaSfrancais
    @FaMaSfrancais Před rokem

    From France its realy good thank you !! 🇨🇵🇨🇵

  • @smoothbrush4722
    @smoothbrush4722 Před rokem +2

    Nice tips. Golden.

  • @Asgarodian
    @Asgarodian Před rokem

    Great Video for beginners :)

  • @spikejohnson3936
    @spikejohnson3936 Před rokem

    Haha, some people must be so triggered by that hedge in the Dale vs Fangorn game!!
    Great video, and good advice!

  • @romandacil3984
    @romandacil3984 Před rokem

    The scenarios are fun in all but I like objectives that when strung out achieve a strategic goal like the liberation of HarIthilien, reconquest of Harondor or Umbar. Too bad GW LOTR does not have a better range of models for Arthedain, Cardolan, Rhudaur and Angmar.

  • @kirklinhammill-torres7952

    I've just bought pelennor fields box plus a few extra units for rohon plus a balrog so when I'm done with my rohirrim army I can work with moria and,mordor

  • @hobojo20
    @hobojo20 Před rokem

    Would be awesome if you could do other kickstarters with middle earth themed sets. Pumped to get printing.

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Před rokem

      Thanks mate! I haven't started sculpting on the next set yet but I can't wait to

  • @hazzagnarly96
    @hazzagnarly96 Před rokem

    Starting to look like a young Aragorn with that haircut mate

  • @captainferrite
    @captainferrite Před rokem

    Lovely terrain

  • @ElrohirGuitar
    @ElrohirGuitar Před rokem

    Is there a way of finding out points and updated characteristics for models without buying the Armies of Middle Earth book. With the new box coming out in December, I worry that the current book will be outdated. I play AOS and rules change way too often.

  • @robertrietmeijer1249
    @robertrietmeijer1249 Před 9 měsíci

    I keep discovering new rules when I watch these videos. I didnt know that you kan make 2x strikes against trapped models! (And as a moria player, that makes all the difference)

  • @severintw
    @severintw Před rokem +3

    Last week the Embracer Group bought the rights for everything related to Lord of the Rings. There is a chance that after current contracts run out that GW won’t be able to keep the license for producing miniatures and games. The Embracer Group got their own games company in Atomic Mass Games. (SpikeyBits published an article on that topic two days ago.) Are you concerned Middle Earth will come to end not because GW wants to end it, but because they simply loose the rights to continue with it?

    • @ElrohirGuitar
      @ElrohirGuitar Před rokem +2

      I was wondering the same thing.

    • @severintw
      @severintw Před rokem +1

      @@ElrohirGuitar I am quite surprised why none of the (admittedly few) Middle Earth focused CZcamsrs has picked this up. There is always this doom and gloom talk when it comes to Games Workshop and their systems but this time it is might not even them making the calls if the game is being continued. If Embracer gives the license to their own studio (Atomic Mass Games) then there is not much they can do about it.

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Před rokem +4

      I am not concerned at all firstly GW renewed a 10 year contract in 2017.
      Secondly even if it stopped getting official support the game and the community is so strong that it will keep going forever.

    • @severintw
      @severintw Před rokem +1

      @@ConquestCreations Being strong, wasn’t that kind of what the Fantasy Battle community thought as well? 😆 But if a 10 year contract was signed 2017 we got the game for at least another 5 years. Do you got a source for that by any chance? Me and my friends did not find anything reliable.

  • @Lunesta_XCIII
    @Lunesta_XCIII Před rokem

    Really want to get into this hobby but I dont know how I'd go about painting everything. How do most players tackle this part? Does everyone who buys these sets paint their sets or do you guys find a commission artist?
    Great video!

    • @TheEldarGuy
      @TheEldarGuy Před 5 měsíci

      The first step is wanting to.
      The miniatures are beautiful, even though many are 20+years old. The sculpts are scaled and in many cases, have been signed off by the film design teams, actors, the Tolkein estate, and Games Workshop. That's in part why it takes so long for the models to go from concept to tabletop.
      Start with flat colours. Pick a scheme of 5 or 6 colours. Pick out the main parts (cloaks, armour, skin tones, weapons, mount, and maybe accessories like belts and pouches).
      A medium brush, small brush, and maybe a fine detail brush.
      Bang for your buck, Middle Earth is usually one of the best games to start with.
      You will get better with practice, and I do recommend people watching Sorastro. While he paints different gaming systems, his technique and the way to level up is great (start basic, add washes, add highlights, add terrain, etc).
      I hope you got into the game, and I hope you are enjoying it. This is one of the best tabletop games ever.

  • @Shyyfox
    @Shyyfox Před rokem +1

    I just wish ppl iknow played lol cuz I have so many pieces but can’t play solo

  • @mikemartin3584
    @mikemartin3584 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice vid. Why do the elves have more archers? Do the orcs have less than a third of their army allowed for shooters?

  • @monkeyfoo999
    @monkeyfoo999 Před rokem

    new to the game. For a rider mounted on a flying mount (a ring wriath on fell beast), If there mount is killed is it just a normal roll on the thrown rider chart or since it was flying is there more?

  • @jonpenny8600
    @jonpenny8600 Před rokem +1

    Does anyone know someone who can print the modems from the Kingdom of Saxonia sadly I don't own a 3d printer 😟🙃

  • @mtuktuk9627
    @mtuktuk9627 Před rokem +1

    best bad hair day ever

  • @Alduric
    @Alduric Před rokem

    Could you clarify more at 9:30? Why might the goblin warriors run away? Because the goblin king and troll are engaged in combat and can no longer call stand fast, so the goblin warriors would have to roll their own courage tests unless also charged and in combat for example? May have answered my own question...

  • @drich.5984
    @drich.5984 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm hoping to get started playing this game, and am aiming towards the 800 point level. About how many dice do you see people needing?

    • @kelvingriffiths6017
      @kelvingriffiths6017 Před 8 měsíci

      About 12 should do for most games. Try to have a variety of colour or size to help differetiate between combatants and weapons.

  • @pattyjohnston6781
    @pattyjohnston6781 Před rokem

    Excellent tips!

  • @michaelgrey1351
    @michaelgrey1351 Před rokem +1

    Thought the background was a generated image. Just had my mind blown.

  • @noops9220
    @noops9220 Před rokem

    With GW releasing the battle force boxes, how would you build from them for newbies?

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Před rokem +1

      That's a great question I'll be doing another video really soon about how I would recommend building your first army!

  • @pyrosixtey2
    @pyrosixtey2 Před rokem

    So what models/ army is that giant from during step 10

  • @jesuschristsupersta1
    @jesuschristsupersta1 Před rokem

    Zuko hair Arc

  • @Redrung
    @Redrung Před rokem +1

    I believe only 4-5 people in my whole country play middle earth SBG , so first mission is to find them.🤣🤣🤣

  • @adsphoe
    @adsphoe Před rokem

    looked like throw the dice there.

  • @TheKazzerscout
    @TheKazzerscout Před rokem +1

    Your thumbnail is misspelt

  • @steveblunden2295
    @steveblunden2295 Před rokem

    Um, how do you spell "Beginners" ? 😉

  • @MVeminor7
    @MVeminor7 Před rokem +15

    Hi Jake, I've been following you for a few years now. I play solo, so the learning curve is a little steep. These tips are a great reminder of how to improve my play. I love this game and have gotten totally sidetracked with terrain building and painting and model building and painting and playing games in between. All aspects of this amazing game have fostered my excitement for it. It's people like you on CZcams that have helped me along. Thank you very much for all the info you have provided me!!! See you next time.

    • @leonk.3739
      @leonk.3739 Před rokem +1

      Have you ever heard of tabletop simulator? Just in case you want to be able to play with other people without having a community in your area

    • @MVeminor7
      @MVeminor7 Před rokem +1

      @@leonk.3739 No, that sounds cool can you tell me more? Where to find it? Thanks

    • @xeantho
      @xeantho Před rokem

      @@MVeminor7 Its a game on Steam that has a bunch of mods for games like MESB, Warhammer, and other war games.

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Před rokem

      What country do you live in? If you live in Aus, I'd be more than happy to try tee some games up with you mate :)

    • @MVeminor7
      @MVeminor7 Před rokem +1

      @@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Hey Spirit, thanks for the offer but I'm in USA. Upstate New York is very rural. Thank you though. My goal is to get down under and play with all of the MESBG crew!

  • @zenster1097
    @zenster1097 Před rokem +1

    Begginers? Lol.

  • @PewpewFiah
    @PewpewFiah Před rokem

    Please get a better mic or position it closer to you. Your audio setup sounds like you're talking across a room to the microphone.

  • @Shyyfox
    @Shyyfox Před rokem

    I just wish ppl iknow played lol cuz I have so many pieces but can’t play solo