Hospital Bracelet - The Rise and Fall
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- Hospital Bracelet - The Rise and Fall
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What's up my mates. Hope everyone is doing well.
I know it's been a while since I've uploaded, but I promise I'm not going anywhere, and that I'm here to stay. I appreciate your support and kind comments so much, and I'm excited to start regularly start putting out content again.
Today we'll be talking about an emo band from Chicago called Hospital Bracelet. This is honestly one of the saddest episodes I've ever had to make. I really thought this band was gonna do it big.
Thank you for your support
Hope everyone has been very well.
Also will I reap what I sow and have a rise and fall video made about me?
@@NateTheMateForever the hell? That's ominous as fuck
Happy ur back!
We missed you Nate!!!
It's great to see you back dude :D
Oh boy. I fell in love with them after you introduced me. Had their debut hanging on my wall, told everyone I knew about them, and everything else. Really thought we were about to witness something special. At least Hot Mulligan is still cool.
same. now im ashamed lmao
And Heart Attack Man
@@XX-ep5xt 😂 now Notes App Apology is HB's anthem
Hospital bracelet IS and always will be Eric. Those other two just made a pretty decent album with them. But literally everything that came before they joined is a hundred times better. People are acting like Eric is Hitler for fuck sake this is absolutely ridiculous and it takes away from when a band member really DOES do something horrible like sexually assault someone
@@eliottsmith6908 you have no idea how much we put into hospital bracelet. that riot fest offer wouldn’t have happened without all the effort “those other two” and a bunch of others put in behind the scenes for almost two years. consider shutting up before you speak on shit you dont know about.
I was just thinking the other day “I wonder how Nate’s doing he hasn’t posted in a while” love to see it
damn "they/them manipulator music" is actually funny af
Hi Skramzrave
I'm out of touch and dont keep up with Twitter or any form of social media presence from bands so it's videos like these that i appreciate to document the band behind the music I like on my spotify. Its unfortunate how quickly the success of HB went downhill and for good reason. As an engineer I would not do business with an artist who doesn't pay right away. Don't send them the mix until they pay you
My band Trash Bin Stench opened for Hospital Bracelet in late 2019, in Fredericksburg VA - they seemed like a really chill group, but I had no idea that these things went on behind the scenes. What a bizarre chain of events, but it was cool to experience the band while they existed.
I live in Richmond!
Cool man you are lucky opening for them. Eric is amazing and if people want to hate for no reason let em hate
@@eliottsmith6908 I still listen to the bands music but please define what you mean when you say "hate for no reason"
One of the best shows I’ve been too no lie
@@BudOnTheLeaves because Eric did absolutely nothing wrong. Hospital bracelet has always been Eric, and always will be. Yeah maybe it was a little mean to ghost somebody, but people are here talking like Eric raped a bunch of puppies. Jesus Christ there's real people in the world doing real horrible things and people have an absolutely nothing better to do than talk about this nothing of a story? I thought the two girls were very talented musicians, and overall South loop summer isn't horrible, but the real recorded version of Sober JK wax any form of emotion which is what made it such a brilliant song to begin with, and it's way over produced. Eric's previous album and EP and singles are all amazing works of art. Hopefully they keep playing music because a lot of people need it
I literally almost dropped my phone seeing this
Me too, I was shattered at first but I’m glad they didn’t turn out to be as bad as these videos normally end.
DUDE SAME
A local college radio station was playing a song of theirs, I kinda liked it so decided to look them up, and this is the first video that popped up lol
Bro this scene has got to chill out a bit, nobody’s ever gonna blow up and good music will never come to the forefront again
Too bad emo isn’t good music. It’s corny nerd chit for Virginz
@@wiishopwednesdayrecords2959 what you even doing here fam 😂. Listen if one of us is a virgin it’s sounding like it’s you 😂. Stay mad, emo rules 🤘
@@samuelmorrison8150 you’re using the cope emoji. Nü-Emo sucks and is for soy boys
@@samuelmorrison8150 emo RULED**** this new shit is somehow even more corny and embarrassing.
Word
I'm so sad about what has become of hospital bracelet. I've only discovered them like a month ago because i got summer friends recommended on spotify and the very same day i made my research about them and heard about all this and it made me really sad. i really love their songs from the lyrics over vocals to the instruments and how everything is put together (and i still keep on listening to their songs though) but it's just so unfair how eric treated their bandmates. a band is supposed to be like a self-made family in which you treat everyone with respect and just generally in a good way, but only including your bandmates for a small part, then basically saying 'i don't need you anymore' and not even paying them (properly) is wrong if you do get money from what you do together.
I found their single some time ago before they released their full album, and i was stoked to see what was in store. Didn't really keep up to date with them and found they finally released a full album, i was stoked. And like you do when you find a new band, you look more into them; that's when i found all this out. It was a high high and a low low 10mins
I loved this band. They came up one day when I wanted new music to listen to. I feel in love instantly and kept playing the bands songs on repeat. South Loop Summer dropped and I feel in love even more and more. I then saw the news about them and my music heart shattered. i cant believe this happened
Nothing has happened lol
@@eliottsmith6908 what do you mean nothing has happened
@@lukegaming1154 it's not like Eric killed/raped somebody you know that right? They messed up but not as bad as others (like Nick from Mccafferty)
Oh wow what a great band I just stumbled upon. Surely they’re just taking their time making their next album. There’s no way a hypocritical scene would ever cancel them.
was with you until the end, it really sounded like youre insinuating that eric shouldn’t have called out abusers and r*pists and by doing so got what was coming for them by getting cancelled. That doesn’t make sense at all to me. Both parties deserved to get exposed for their wrong doings and I don’t understand the point of being anti “cancel culture” in this context.
I think what he was saying is that you shouldn’t pretend to be a complete advocate for one thing and then do the same thing you’re advocating against behind the scenes
yea that was a shit and very online-brained take at the end of the vid, the proper takeaway would be to not exploit and discount the effort and impact of people, especially people who are supposed to be some of your closest friends and collaborators
I get Nate was trying to discard this by saying "yea usually bands don't collapse with this kind of controversy" but really?? With this ending he is blaming the collapse on people caring about things rather than on Eric for fucking their band mates over. It's like Nate is trying to be anti-SJW but is afraid to say it with his chest
It's more that the progressive purity test of the inclusive crowd is impossible to measure up to
I wish someone would love me as much as Nate loves Modern Baseball
So emo is about people being broken but when they act up because they are broken they are cancelled...
Glad you are back. Was wondering about this band the other day.
New video, we’ve been waiting for one, thank you and hope all is good
YESSS IM SO GLAD U MADE A VIDEO FOR THIS
So glad you're back
Great to see you back at it, man. Also, this isn't a Mock Orange video.
Glad to see you back my guy
Welcome back! I missed your content
hey man, i just discovered your channel and i really like your stuff. i feel like you should make a video on los campesinos! - they've been pretty popular in the once twee pop and now indie rock/emo scene since about 2010 and are probably the best band i know of. they're lyrics are wonderfully smart and the instrumentals are a mix of whirling bass and screeching violins, they're nothing like i've seen before or ever. i think you'd really like them :)
if you havent heard about them already, listen to sparky deathcap, theyre connected to los campesinos!
@@wheatstack5018 unfortunately have listened to every single one of his songs that is on youtube, but great reccomendation :) you've got good taste
I’m so glad your back dad!!!
You should make a video on Marietta's album "As it Were"! I loved your video on Summer Death and in my opinion As it Were is just as good
Any more Marietta content please
Please more videos man! I've really missed your stuff!
Glad yr back mate
Damn, they came up on my youtube supermix and I fell in love. It's a shame to find out that they won't be around anymore at this time.
The man has officially returned!!
!!!!!!!!!
This was sad as hell... I loved that band so much.
HI WELCOME BACK DUDE
Happy to see you back man! I’ve missed your content a lot and am glad to see your still chuggin along. Keep up the good work man!!
As for most of the negative comments I’ve seen on this video, don’t let them get you down or prevent you from creating future videos. I feel like alot of people feel that it’s your responsibility to make sure EVERYONE knows how terrible of a person so and so is and if you leave out any misconduct at any level than you’re not reporting well enough but I don’t think your goal is tell everyone how bad of a person they are. Unless I’m wrong, I don’t think that’s ever been the point of your rise and fall videos. Rise and fall videos don’t have be “look at how terrible of a person whoever is” videos and I appreciate that about your vids because all of these people are still humans with complex thoughts emotions just like all of us. Not every video has to be a witch hunt or a psa about how terrible someone is. There’s plenty of that on the internet already. I love your content man and I want to see you do well, in fact most of us do. Keep on creating and I’m pumped for what you have next!!
THE RETURN.
Crazy that Eric dated the lead singer to Jail Socks
Oh good you're back. Its good to see these vids, man, documenting bands like this. I hope the dissenters dont get to you. Id love to see some documenting bands who went out on top, too. Maybe older bands if possible? Its been a minute since ive checked the channel so i do apologize if ive missed vids like that. Cheers to you Nate.
Still love the band. Hope all parties continue to make music. And eric grows as a person. Their young. Life happens. Best of luck
Literally was thinking the other day when is a new video coming out! Thank you! :-)
Same here!!!
I still want that south loop summer video I miss it sm
I was actually just thinking about you and how you haven't put out a video in a while and then I saw this and clicked instantly!!! Great job as always!!!
Yes! Now this is what I've been waiting for!!!
good to have you back at least!
I discovered south loop summer early last year and I've been listening to hospital bracelet routinely since, I was wondering when they'd drop new music this whole time and now finding out about all this is so sad
honey wake up new nate the mate video
welcome back!
Dawg if you absolutely HAD to do this video you have to do more than gloss over the bare minimum. You painted them as basically just not paying people and showing band mates enough respect lmao there’s so much more manipulative and abusive behavior that you didn’t even address. You picked the most surface level controversy around them and basically promoted HB at the end of the day.
What other stuff is Eric guilty of?
@@Pizzaboy929392 blackmailing multiple people with fake abuse allegations and physically abusing another musician, also blackmailing them into not coming forward. also extremely mishandled mediating a situation regarding a 15 year old who was assaulted (pro tip, if you know someone told their abuser "no" multiple times, don't tell them it's their fault!) these are my firsthand accounts as someone who once considered them a friend.
@@EpiclyAnnabelle I thought the allegations levied in the twitter thread that got them cancelled were milquetoast at best, but this shit I would actually care about. Where's the info on this?
@@AlbinoBlueSquirrel all of those “more serious” allegations were quote tweeted by those most affected by them. i could not bear responsibility for outing those allegations despite being informed of them as i wasn’t given permission to do so nor would it be responsible to speak on behalf of those affected.
Gr8 content man!
Im so confused so what did they do
Missed you Nate!
Ik I’m late but this is still crazy to me. I was a regular performer/crowd member at the Hoosier Dome during Eric’s time at the Hoosier Dome. Drove them home from shows, played shows either them etc. I was in New Jersey with my last band recording an EP the day everything came out. Ik following drama isn’t healthy but we were glued to Twitter whenever we weren’t recording that day. 😅
ahah they didnt even rise
FINALLY A NEW VIDEO
I’m having a hard time finding the link to Manae’s twitter thread about the issues with the band, does anyone else have it?
would love to see a video from you on 'i'm glad it's you' great band
I totally understand the blatant hypocrisy of all this. At the same time. Come on. They don't deserve to get canceled over this. I get it, Eric tried canceling other people over simliar issues. But here's the thing, I don't think they that was right etither. Jesus Christ, people. We have to give others the space to apologize and attempt to grow. These are young little idiots, and they are far from perfect. I was also a selfish moron when I was in my early 20s/late teens. But if we decide that no amount of apologizing is ever enough, it just shows an apology is not really what we want.
Super agree, It was Eric carrying this act. Social media (super hard for most people) and songwriting? I could not imagine having these big opportunities at their age. Of course if the other bandmates aren't contributing more than live shows then why do they need a bigger cut?
Eric was wronged, it's sad to see
My soul was struck when I heard about the drama
Please do a Rise and Fall video about Scruffpuppie
seeing slaughter beach in december, it ain't modern baseball but its close
nateeeee missed u man, hope everythings good :)
Were they dropped from the label too?
i was only looking for one of their songs so i could send it to a friend then i find this.... ah well, sucks to learn this way
OMG NEW VIDEO!
Have you ever listened to earlier bands like Armor for sleep, the starting line, the early November, or Emery? The question by Emery is amazing or stuff like the receiving end of sirens, or Boys Night Out their album Trainwreck is one of the best concept albums of all time the album tells a heartbreaking story. I'm sure you would like these bands considering the bands you talk about on your channel which I'm new to but have already watched like 20 videos back to back. Keep up the great work mate.
Your taste in music is impeccable.
Not what 'Reap what you sow means' but decent informative video
the members of the band aren't a fan of this video
how so?
they were JUST like this in the indie wrestling scene.
i loved them so much and watched the whole twitter thing crash and burn live it sucks
Video on Seahaven 👉🏼👈🏼
Missed u Nate so happy ur back
boys nate the mate dropped a new video
Do you think you'll do a "Scruffpuppie, the rise and fall" video?
Live by the Twitter mob, die by the Twitter mob. I mean they were being a wak putting their success before their friends but I feel like that's very normal in the music industry. But like you said you reap what you sow. If they hadn't been one of those types on Twitter maybe this would've ended differently
I’m so glad your back bro I’ve missed your videos
Can we get video about TBLA?
Dude welcome back! We've all missed you!
he is baaaaackkkk =))))
The 🐐 has returned
Can you make vids where you show new and interesting bands in the scene rather than this kind of content. If it's what you want to do then go for it cuz it's not my problem, just personally I prefer your vids discussing new artists. Plus it helps shine a light on the better parts of the scene and lets it grow
That’s boring tho
He’s made a handful of these kinds of videos, and literally dozens of others. Stop acting like this is his whole shtick.
@@SnailHatan I know he does I’ve been a fan for a couple years but the last couple vids have just been rise and falls or looks at legacy acts in the scene with the exceptions of salughter beach dog and charmer vids. No digs at those guys I love all the bands he’s covered. I guess better wording would’ve been “I miss the vids…” if that makes my og comment any clearer
@@SnailHatan It's what he makes his money off of.
@@spookshowreviews7117 And? People watch it. That’s their choice.
when u doing a snowing video?!
You should make a video on Jurassic shark or the butter tones
Good video you should do a vid on pup
I’m absolutely heart broken
not much to do with the vido but i ordered a vinyl when it was first announced and it never came rip
i drummed on the whole album and never got my test press lmao rip
I knew a bit about the controversy before the video and I gotta ask the people who said Nate only scratched the surface. What else did Eric do? I know they didn’t pay like anyone who worked on the album and tried to undermine some other bands (I think khaki cuffs?) but I don’t know anything more than that. Seeing all the dissent in the comments made google a bunch of things related to hospital bracelet but found almost nothing.
I had to download fucking twitter to find out what happened but I dunno how to find anything. I’ve always avoided twitter cause I saw it as overly harsh and people get angry at you for not being in the know on recent events. Can someone please expand on all that happened?
Im confused as well, I saw Manae's twitter thread but I didnt see much beyond what was addressed in the video.
Im also curious on what wasnt addressed.
copy-pasted from above but: blackmailing multiple people with fake abuse allegations and physically abusing another musician, also blackmailing them into not coming forward. also extremely mishandled mediating a situation regarding a 15 year old who was assaulted (pro tip, if you know someone told their abuser "no" multiple times, don't tell them it's their fault!) these are my firsthand accounts as someone who once considered them a friend. FUCK THIS VIDEO.
@@EpiclyAnnabelle You knew the band personally?
Were these issues ever brought forth online or was it just word of mouth?
Im not downplaying what you are saying nor am I saying you are lying, Im just trying to figure out how did it get from point A to B
@@Silencex84 as the drummer, all of these issues were brought up to me by multiple ppl privately for months leading up to my tweet. i had to say something that specifically affected only me and my bandmate to make it known that eric isn’t something worth working with, which then brought on the deluge of testimonies regarding their harmful actions & manipulative behaviors. it’s disappointing to see so many ppl play off what eric did when it was very real for me and many others.
@@numbthot69 yooo! Can I just say as a fan of this band one of my favorite parts of the music was your drumming. Good luck in your future stuff
Not to negate the vid but, didn’t you have beef w them?
You gotta do a vid on brave little abacus!!
Oh no here we go again 😔
Hospital bracelet fans: All I say is all I know and all I know is what you made me
The Return of the Mate
It’s so nice to see a upload but such a sad thing to see so much potential wasted
this band was nowhere near good chill out
@@moistlowlife I loved it ngl
Damn dude. Is it sad I was both dreading and hoping for this video?
Am I a shitty person? I feel like I keep liking bands with shitty people in them. =/ 🤔
The reason shit like this keeps happening is because people pin their own worth by constantly comparing themselves to others. Just do the best you can. Don't ask questions like that and expect to get anything constructive. At the end of the day, you're the arbiter. Be the example.
Let me preface this by saying that I have no idea who this band is and what the members did.
Another issue with bands, in general, is that bands are made up of people. As someone who has been in bands since their teens (I'm in my 30s now), and spent a lot of that time also booking shows...this isn't new. When I started playing/booking shows, MySpace hadn't even become a big thing yet. It existed, and quickly became a thing, but it wasn't a big thing at the time. So, unless you interacted with these people in person, you had no way to know. If you take a look, the general publics knowledge of bands doing distasteful things rose as the internet became more of a thing for everyone. Now, everyone knows everything a day, sometimes even less, after it happens. As long as bands have people, this isn't going to stop. Hopefully it gets better, but it will never stop.
You're not a shitty person for liking bands who also happen to have shitty people in them. Certainly not if you weren't aware. It's not your job to update yourself with every little thing your favorite artists do and hyper-analyze them for wrongdoing.
I've had so far 5 bands I like get "cancelled". It doesn't make me feel shitty in the slightest.
I feel nothing because I don't bear responsibility for someone else's actions (in this context). I also understand they can make mistakes because they're human, but also they should face consequences because they're human. The most I can do is learn to conduct myself better as a person by learning from their mistakes.
I don't know if you should stop listening to their music or not. I leave that to the individual to make their own decision. My personal "line" that I draw is when a band preaches certain values and is then caught breaking said values.
LETS GOOOO
This video is more about Nate feeling frustrated with the twitter scene not liking him than anything Eric actually did
I really wanted to like this band. I was enthralled with Eric's presence on social media during the pandemic. It's a shame they did not live up to the level of standards they seemed to have for everyone else.
"went to the chiropractor"...lol.
BRO I HAD JUST FOUND THEM OUT YESTERDAY. I WENT TO DOWNLOAD THE SONGS AND YOU PUBLISH THIS LMAO
Please do a video on gabe from mom jeans
anyway stream Oux
Meh
Do you play among us
i missed you