Tinder’s Creepin’ Your DMs
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Tinder can't creep my DMs if I never get any matches
Modern problems require modern solutions.
Very smart strat, simply outplayed
truly you and I are just ahead of the game
or if you don't use it at all lmao
Tinder playing checkers while you playing chess.
"We didn't sell the data for commercial purposes, we just wanted to make money for our company. Oh, what? That's what 'commercial' means? Damn, really should've approved that requisition form from the legal team for a dictionary." - George Arison, CEO of Grindr
I'm going to guess Grindr gave away "anonymous" HIV data for medical research purposes, and some data launderer de-anonymized it.
"They didn't sell the data commercially, they just exchanged it for money" - welcome to the logic of Germanys *economics* minister...
And this is not a joke! His real quote was: "Companies don't go bankrupt [when they run out of money], they just stop producing." - God bless his incompetent soul and at least double the amount of his brain cells, so he at least has two...
...let's see how long it takes for me to get sued by him for not likng this comment as it happened before...
I've thought for a long time that this obsession with exponentially growth is ridiculous. Companies should get bigger by creating a better product, not by squeezing there customers.
The alternative to exponential growth is running a steady business and paying out the profits (with the US withholding tax being what it is) by stock buybacks, but people seem to dislike that even more.
Or just maintain the company when they run out of ideas and pay a steady dividend.
I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. If a messaging service is not end-to-end encrypted, I think you can reasonably assume they're scanning your messages.
I agree, although E2E-encryption isn't everything needed for a privacy-friendly messaging service. Privacy is a matter of how much you trust the provider.
As an example, WhatsApp can still view their users' contact lists, everything is stores on servers owned by the provider instead of only the users' phones, and metadata isn't encrypted. Needing a phone number bears a risk as well, as you need to trust people to not give your number to other people without asking you first.
Then there is the saying: "If something doesn't money, _you_ are the product". Financing a service through ads is basically selling user data. I'd rather pay for a service with, for instance, the price of a coffee upfront, to download an app (totally didn't steal that from the Threema 10-year-anniversary vid). The more transparent the financing is, the more trustworthy is a service's privacy.
you gotta understand not a lot of people the use tinder might even know what end-to-end encryption is, i think it's perfectly fine to be surprised if it's not the kinda thing you're knowledgeable about
@@lemmmakestunes8312 This is a fair point. I suppose I just mean that I don’t know why tech-savvy people are surprised by it.
I got multiple Bumble ads on this video, lol.
“We desperately need to know the HIV status of delvinginthedepths9042”
- Bumble execs
They really want your data
Tinder started doing mandatory photo-verification, for which you have to do a certain pose, like holding your hand up next to your face or whatever. - I get that they want to prevent spam and AI and whatever, but I didn't really want to do it. - So what I did, is do it anyway, but flip them off in the pictures. - I got banned, but at least I know someone over there got triggered. And we also know that they're doing it manually, because someone took offense, which an algorithm wouldn't do. - In any case, good riddance. It might be the biggest and well-known, but as often the case, it's not nearly the best.
Tinder and Grinder are great ways to find people to blackmail if you're an Intel agency. They would set one up and see all kinds of important people on there. Pass them a folder one day with all that info in it. Ask them "Now do you want your wife and everyone to find out? Or will you do as you're told?" So many people get caught up like this it is unbelievable. You would think they wouldn't act that way but power corrupts some people. Cheating on the spouse is the least of the info they have. If you've ever wonder why powerful people make such foolish decisions running a company or government then there's your answer. Doing as they are told by their handlers.
It's not explicitly mentioned in this clip. But I want to clarify that one of the most common motives for stock buybacks is that it is an alternative to regular dividends.
*Instead* of paying out $1 per share to shareholders, they buy back stock for the equivalent amount, which results in the share price increasing with roughly $1.
The key difference is that dividends triggers income tax for private individuals, while buybacks do not. Giving each individual shareholder the choice as to whether they want to realize their gains or not. If they'd rather have that money in cash and pay taxes on them, they can sell 1% of their shares after the buyback and it would effectively be the same as if they received it as a dividend.
The key difference is that stock buybacks are a ponzi scheme. There get to be less shares which makes the value more volatile.
It doesn’t make the share more volatile, it decreases the shares outstanding thus increasing the earnings per share for each stockholder.. hence the value goes up. It’s a legitimate tool when the business decides that reinvesting the money in its growth is suboptimal at the moment
@@NickGhale In the extreme, the company can spend everything it has on share buybacks, and if there are any shares left over, they're worth zero. The difference between book value and share value remains the same and gets divided among fewer shares.
This is absurd.
This is absolutely absurd.
This is the caption for anything that happened so far from 2020 onwards
it's funny how data collection isn't limited in any way by laws, like it's not something that could be harmful in any way
this is wrong. There are many laws, such as the EU's GDPR. The problem is that they are not enforced until a lawsuit is started.
@@__-qb3xj if a law is not enforced, it's like it's not there
Some true crime thing I watched yesterday said they used a guys unsent messages as evidence. It was on the law and crime channel from yesterday. Idk what app or if it was just text messaging but I guess they keep track of every typed letter even if it’s never posted.
Stock buybacks were not allowed in the US after the Great Depression. It wasn't until 1982 that Ronald Regan's SEC began allowing them again. Another example of Regan's deregulation still hurting society four decades later.
It's the fault of every president and every congress since Reagan. They could have reversed it if they disagreed.
power does not corrupt, power shows what was already there.
Never allow any apps to scan your messages except for specific words like the human trafficking stuff. Never give any your personal and medical information.
I consider anything on the Internet as a public forum. Anything I put on them is public knowledge as far as I'm concerned, and would not post anything I wish to keep a secret.
what in the actual...
this is borderline criminal
that bit where Linus say "they don't need to grow forever" yes they do because they are a publicly traded company. They need to do it inorder to have the share holders best interests in mind.
That's not a good thing though, the system is broken
@@jacewhite8540 yes but it's not going anywhere.
That closing statement really eloquently and succinctly expresses my view on finance
“At the risk of sounding anti capitalist”
How is that a risk?
because he is a capitalist, a business owner, a boss
found the communist
Selling peoples data should illegal!
9:35 yes it does. market cap = share price x share count. same mkt cap but more shares, something's gotta give.
That is why companies split the stock into preferred shares and common shares. To game that system further, as well as complicate ownership and dividends.
@@halycon404 still dilutes
@@halycon404 You're thinking different share classes. Preferred shares are a different type of security that pays out a fixed amount, and doesn't represent ownership of the company.
@@richardm123 I'm aware. Businesses buy back and issue different stock classes depending what they need at the time. It's not always just common stock they are buying or issuing.
On the surface yes, but if the stock compensation comes in place of regular salary, instead of adding to it (which often is the case for low-level employees), that is money saved for the employer, which preserves the overall value of the company.
There is a case in the us where a company made a long term decision that made their books look bad in the short term and the share price dropped. The shareholders sued and won. The decision was that a company has an obligation to the shareholders, and as most of these shareholders want the stock to go up we get primarily enshitification.
I would imagine that a dating app maximizes the money they get from you by keeping you on their platform. So ironically they'd be designed not for you to find someone, but to keep finding people.
it is a bit more complicated than that as if you have no success you also stop using it, so there is a line somewhere in the middle which is the most profitable for them
@@chipiegg1466 I agree. To some degree or another, businesses just want to maximize the amount of money they get from us. In the context of dating apps, they need enough successes to encourage more people to join, but enough failures to keep people using their app.
They also can claim a loss while using money to buy back stock. Which is just wrong on so many levels.
That stock buy-back thing that you said: A separate episode of WAN Show would do good!
Sounds like it’s time for a Firefox dating app.
Hearing someone like Linus who is a very successful business owner discuss the very massive issues we have in the current capitalist system is very refreshing, but not unexpected from him. Thanks for always being an Everyman Linus! Shareholder value will be the downfall of us all
Yes, issuing more stock increases the shares outstanding, which decreases the earnings per share, which decreases the stock price
LOL I’ve gotten 2 bumble ads during this video🤣
You cannot have infinite economic growth on a finite planet
That's why we need eventually expand to space.
you technically can't but becasue of inflation you can make it seem that way i guess
despicable. Also, Linus wearing his InvisAlign? Also also BRING BACK DA BEARD
Joke's on them, I date on e621 :P
Furrrrrrry!
Dating apps are a huge waste of time. Nobody is actually looking for anything serious there
Ahahahah! Having a single match would be enough.
This happened to my wife. Her Tinder DMs were scanned and she got shadow banned for talking to someone she matched with about private things.
Why would you care what the company is worth in 10 years if you plan to sell all your stock in them in 3 and short them in 4 years?
I might be alone, but I will never use a dating app, now moreso than ever.
Now Linus fears that aslo his Only Sandaly account might sell his data.
USA has a law that mandates that shareholder wealth has to grow
Falling foul of that law means the shareholders can sue the C-suite
It needs to go away
Infinite growth in finite systems is evidently unsustainable, at the moment it's the workers that are subsiding it all
stock splits. the price goes down but the amount of stock you own goes up. a two for one split means you have double the shares
Surveillance vs moderation. Privacy vs. moderation. Checking user content for illegal stuff is okay, selling your personal life to third parties, or China, is not.
So much for our constitutional right to reasonable privacy
Yep you might as well kiss that constitutional right goodbye. Now these days if you want it back you have to pay for services like VPN's or Aura to protect your data 🤷
Grinder is very popular amongst gay people. In the gay scene HIV was and still is one of the biggest problems. For example HIV test are free for gay folks in most countries since it's somehow 5x more likely to get it when beeing gay, since many don't know you can still spread stds even though there is no vagina involved.
Hard disagree on the only reading if flagged, if a minor is on the site neither are going to flag.
So read all private messages to protect the children. Where have I heard that before?
So its like Microsoft, Google and Apple then. Not much of a story is it.
I HATE dating apps but I am an anti social person so I don’t have much of a choice. I might try going to a singles event but they are so expensive and I am pretty certain my anxiety is going to keep me from being myself.
in my experience the way you get success in dating is by not trying to date.
you gotta do things that build your confidence with yourself and around other people.
its easier said than done, but anyone can do it if they put themselves in the right circumstances.
LTT doesn't come off anti-capitalist, more just anti-publicly-traded-companies. Which is a take I think literally everyone can agree on, so long as the person in question isn't a CEO planning on cashing out millions of dollars after crashing a company into the dirt on behalf of some random private equity firm. Those people would probably have an issue with getting rid of their easy ticket to being stupid rich, lol
Mozilla is so fucking cool except for that one time. Good job team!
Well now we know where meta got their Ai model for identifying nudes
destroy them dating apps :D
Still would be fun having the lttcoin, like an asic resistant monero base coin to mine just for fun, I would put a CPU ont that
Dm stands for d message.... Idk why people keep showing their junk in every message.
True
I use to use tinder to sell gpus
Why does linus look so old here?
Oh hell yeah, another reason not to install this garbage!
"Not to sound like an anti-capitalist but--"
Well, you sure do seem to be talking a lot like one of us 😉
The audio level between them both sucks... Linus is so quite in comparison
What if they deflate (devalue) your ball, Linus?
“At the risk of sounding anti-capitalist” time to come to the light comrade lol
This infinite growth mindset is not individuals acting in bad faith, it is an honest to god systemic issue. Capitalism was ‘crazy’ when we had feudalism, socialism of course seems crazy when we have capitalism. But it is the way forward.
I mean, centrist works best.
Why go for an extreme? Neither work.
Governments are there to ensure their populations are looked after & safe. A properly managed welfare state, with good income to support it, is the way forward.
True communism doesn't work at scale, and capitalism turns into a hell scape like the USA is today.
No. Capitalism is simply the right to make money off of your labor. It doesn't mean that you worship money. There are many companies that are satisfied with their share and aren't interested in growing to infinity.
@@user-io4sr7vg1v actually capitalism is the right to profit from private ownership of capital. For example you can own a factory and profit from other people's labor. Or you can own an apartment building and profit from renting the units out.
Communism basically just requires that ownership be shared by the workers, or the residents. This can be as small as a housing co-op or a small business where the employees each hold equal share in the business. A large scale example of this is the Mondragon corporation.
Under communism you can't use your personal wealth to profit (in theory) because there is nothing profitable to own.
There is no difference between being cheated by corporation or community. They are both group of people who benefit from works of individuals and ditch them when they are no longer usefull.
chasing infinite growth is a human problem, not a capitalism problem
What's up with the bot comments here? Things aren't that bad at LMG?
Bots all over yt it has nothing to do with the channel they post on.
Linus first what sounds like a girl
2 views in 1 minute? Bro fell off
linus fellouf
Real, no cap
Ngl when using dating apps, I just assume they're gonna sell everything 🥹
I'd always ask someone to move off platform if I was gonna send anything particularly sensitive.
It sucks 'cause you wanna be honest, but there's ways to be vague enough to not give exact details, or just not answer things. Like don't list where you work, study, etc.