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250,000# 135' long truck over train tracks. Oversize load crossing the tracks
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Just a bit of advice I do this for a living on a much bigger scale always raise your deck and your power lines before crossing the tracks so you don't have to sit on the tracks and always call the railroad and get Clarence 1st not being a know it all just keeping yall safe ✌😎
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The word should be "clearance," and not the name "Clarence," for the message.
@@captainkeyboard1007 I wondered about that. The Union Pacific said there hasn't been a Clarence working there in years. We got the run-around for hours.
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For those asking why the poor route. Sometimes its the only way you can go due to bridges and over head restrictions set by Local and state governments. Many times these jurisdictions prohibit trucks from taking the easy route and make you travel the hard route such as seen here. Its not always the truckers idea to do this kind of stuff. Besides This is very common for over size loads to have to lift and lower the load as they travel thru tight spots and over RR crossings.
you should add one more thing. sure the rr tracks and low low clearance heights are posted on signs and routing soft ware. this kind of crossing is not on any kind of routing software
The only thing wrong here is the way the driver set the turn up. They need a truck pusher there and for the driver to stay in the truck seat.
I like the subject of the video, it was the constant movement of the camera that bothered my eyes.
railroad was called by myself prior to crossing. route was run by an escort company in PA, as well as an engineer survey preformed.
Scooby's Scoop why didn't they just use a train to deliver the oversize load & they should ban oversize loads from roads & use more trains
+Jmream2 Jmr it costs a lot more hauling such a large load by railroad something you can't or will understand
Jmream2 Jmream is there a rain next to everyone's house, no. But there is a road
There's a lot of low overpasses on rail roads
Railroads don't always go where the load needs to go.
in stead of going backwards and then adjusting the trailer, he does it on the middle of the the crossing
I have hauled heavy loads like this a few times. that modified RGN style rig he is towing is one VERY expensive setup. nice!
Steven Gibson - What kind of permits does it take to haul something like this? I know it depends on routes, maybe RR crossings, etc., but man...
@@easygoing2479 I hauled a crane base from Florida to just outside Oklahoma City Ok. I was just the driver of a load 112 ft. long and weighted at approx. 145 thousand pounds. We got lucky and I hit just under the requirement for a single truck without having a tag-truck attached. I was 13'2"wide and 15'9" tall. Gear low and watch your breaks. Sometimes they still want to slide tires even on what looks live a shallow grade. Our rig didn't adjust up like the one in the video, but we never ran into any trouble.
We hired a heavy haul (pilot) escort company who routed the trip in detail and got most of the permits. Depending on the load (weight, physical size, hazmat ect.) expect to pay them $5 to $40 thousand. We had seven class-8 trucks. My rig and one other had a Denel steerable haul dolly set up. The $20+K you pay the escort service is for chase trucks and pole trucks and most of the time does NOT cover the permits or structure alteration (that's removing stop signs and road signs or red light poles). U.S. DOT has permits and bridge limits, and each state and city you go through has there own permits for their piece of the pie. That's where your escort company comes in, doing the leg work for you as the middle man. They will get the permits, but you still
pay for them separate. We didn't have any bridges that we couldn't go over, but we had several bridges we could not fit under. We also had to have the utility co.s take down about 60 stop signs and 11 red light poles. Our trip took 9 days. You can't run after dark and some cities you can't go through them during morning or evening rush hours. Some cities (mainly smaller ones) not at all. If I recall, boss cleared $263,000 after expenses. He still bitched saying it was too much of a headache. I only got $9,000, but for only nine days it wasn't too bad.
Steven Gibson - Thank you for your answer! That’s the type of CZcams comments we need more of.
Every time I see a load like this on the road I wonder about the logistics involved. I figured state and local authorities and utilities played a part, but now I know how those escort services tie everything together, as well as how the $$$ is handled.
Thanks again! An actual informative comment on CZcams...
@@easygoing2479 A lot of the larger hauling companies don't use escort serv. doing it all inhouse to save money. We were not that big so we had to farm out some of the profit. If its a short run, staying inside the city or from one city to one close by you may get by without it. Anything crossing state lines or going over 250 miles I'd recommend an outside service.
I always raised my trailer before making a crossing like this
jmecrg
of course you did. we all do when we need to.
he still wouldn't have made it
Take a look at the high load
They didn't want to lift it higher than they had to because they had to clear an overhead wire there also.
and the reason we had to go this way is because where the road went over the tracks on a bridge, the bridge did not support this kind of weight.
Thank you, this makes it clear for us.
@@oriolesfan129 try to use yours, (what if that is the only option)
@@oriolesfan129 These guy do this for a living. I'm sure this was the best or only route they could take.
@@oriolesfan129 you can't change your route yourself the state has to change it for you
@@oriolesfan129 you dont simply go another route stupid. This route was given by the state
Great job folks salute to you
You guys more than earned your pay on this one!
Nice job guys!! I'd love to get onto true heavy haul!!
Great life. Call Daily Express in Carlisle, Pa. I started out with them after I had 6 months of CDL Class A experience.
Makes you wonder who checked out the route.
I agree, but they probably took into account what kind of RGN trailer they were hauling and knew they could lift it to clear. That was a nice set up he had.
I used to love the way the state would permit you but that's the way they said to go a lot of times I had to raise the old Talbott just like that
SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA GO THE WAY YOU GOTTA GO. AND SOMETIMES YOU TAVE TO TAKE THE ELECTRIC WIRE DOWN. REAL PAIN IN THE BUTT...
ok first off i did this for many years. in fact we did 3 of these to the same place.
this is in the last 25 miles to the delivery site. train co was called prior to crossing.
the trailer we used was correct for the job.
they cannot helicopter them in.
Scooby's Scoop we mainly haul these. We’re was this Pennsylvania or New York ?
Thanks for sharing this!
Good work - great communication.
Thanks. Looks amazing. Joe
I see this is an old video and yet it gets comments to this day. I noticed some tires were squatting low as if low air pressure in them. At first I thought, "Put air in them to raise it a little". Then I thought. Maybe the tires were already at their pressure limit just short of blowout. But in the end. The crossing was accomplished.
Assuming that we're looking at the same tires, perhaps what you're seeing is the tires being pulled sideways by the tractor which is in the midst of a relatively sharp turn. Because the axles on which the tires are supported are not steerable, the tires are forced to skid around a turn. In tight turns, the tire tread experiences a rolling action because they are essentially being pulled sideways.
I thought you were in trouble, initially - I didn't know they lifted that high!
Must have been an interesting job with the variety of loads and routes you had to take?
Nice going guys!
@SittingMooseShaman actually that was our route given to us by P.A. DOT.
Not trying to armchair quarter back, but the route was poorly planed. At 1:53 you can see that the driver swung as wide to the left as he could before making a wide right turn over the tracks which he can see is elevated. Notice how his right ride of the trailer is pinched up against the stop sign bending it over. I also notice a post indicated a natural gas pipe line within 5 Ft of the Trailer ???? I wonder what tonnage the bridge in front of them is rated at.... It was neat to see them working to shim the trailer up enough to clear the tracks. Never seen that done except with a wrecker before.
Phil's Midwest Classic Cars Truck drivers must take the routes that the government makes them take when hauling permit loads. A highway patrol officer made this route plan by using maps to avoid low bridges and truck restrictions.
Dont you just love the permit office?
Should have had it lifted before got to tracks don't u think
looks like they dealt with the situation pretty good to me
no. Looks like they don't care about public safety, you asshole.
@@dehoedisc7247 so tell us what you would do genius. I'll be waiting
The people in the comments section that have recently commented in this year that said "These people need to learn how to drive" and "These people really need to put something in this Railroad crossing" or some other crap like that need to learn the difference between 2017-Present and ALMOST 7 YEARS AGO. Things were different back then and they improved throughout the years that this video and any other video related to this was on CZcams.
Common sense has not changed in 7 years, you crank up that trailer before they even started the turn, not fuck around on the train tracks.
+eric wsmith Dude, you don't have to be mean like that. They aren't messing around on the tracks. They are thinking of a way to get across the tracks without knocking anything over and/or preventing a train crash. You need to learn the point of this video by looking it up instead of being rude to innocent people like me, acting like people are dumber than you/ thinking that people don't get your sarcastic remark and trying to get a point through to me even though you know you are wrong.
I will stand by my statement, as I see no compelling facts as to support anything they did correctly. Getting hung up while over the track was 100% avoidable.
@Jim Allen --The trailer tipping over never once occurred to me then... or now. You are ASSuming they knew the train schedule,, just like you ASSumed they knew what they were doing, 10 + minutes to make a turn is the only fact there is.
@@ericwsmith7722 and youre assuming they didn't call the railroad ahead of time which they did. They also have overhead wires to be concerned about yet alone raising something that heavy too high is never a good thing. Sit back down
NICE JOB!!!!!!!!!!
So no one walked the route taken? Isn’t that standard protocol?
no, its not. Heights are measured in advance, but in reality this route was done because of the weight of a bridge.
Nice job Driver
all in all i think it went well
Nice driving
question did this take place in Weedville PA or near there by any chance off of route 120 towards Emporium bc that place looks Really familiar IF so I used to live down river about another 45 minutes in Renovo PA smallest town in central PA lol
turn took 40min the first time, and after rerouting myself it took 3 min the second time.
Hay Moe!!! Hay Larry!!
Might not have been practicle but would certainly have been fun to watch 20 helicopters lol. Don't you just love the crap we are faced with eveyday doing our job. Sure beats hauling regular freight I tell ya.
They should have placed a steel bar across those tracks. It would have activated the crossing signals, and sent a signal to rail dispatchers that something was wrong. The rail signals would have turned RED on both sides of that crossing, hopefully preventing a collision.
Thats why you call the railroad ahead of time
Good
Whoever routed that load should have been taken out and educated behind the wood shed!! LOL!
Good job by the driver an crew!!
LOL! NEVER A DULL MOMENT IN OVERSIZED HAULS!!!! ;)
wheres the train there a train almost in every video with semi stuck on track
how long did that take to make turn?
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What a friggin' nightmare! How far does this rig make in a day(?) ; 5 miles? Excellent skills on the road crew and driver.
I'm guess they aren't crossing railroad tracks every mile.
I take it being 14 years ago the jeep was spring ride? I kept asking why are the jeeps axles not being inflated/ Now ding the comment this video is 14 y.o., Well done I do hope you notified the train dispatchers about this.
Penn Dot should have their heads examined giving you a route that could have caused real damage to your freight and to any oncoming train not notified of your vehicle problem! Nice job Pa.Dot?
You are talking about penndot remember I live in pa they are not the smartest cookies in the bag.
its PennDot they are the Slowest, Dumbest, and Laziest ppl on planet earth I've lived in PA all my life and traveled over roads they Supposedly fixed and roads that Needed plowed and never have been but the trucks are out and the road crews are standing there doing Nothing
so that brings me to a joke what do you call 50 PennDot workers on one side of the road and 50 blonde lesbians on the other side of the road, 100 people that don't do Dick!
The railroad crossings are not truck friendly they should level the crossings with the street , they know from all this time that trucks with that plastic curtain below the trailer will hit and get stuck on anything as low as an orange or 2" of ground clearance and then the train hits it full force and the train engine goes off the tracks and then you have a big mess wow
Good job by everyone.
That’s why heavy haulers make big bucks
Let’s take the lowest trailer we have, over the highest R/R crossing!!
125 tons spread over 13 axles . Notice a little hump in the R.R. tracks crossing area ? There's your problem !!!
Thanks Sherlock, tell the state that
The first thought was, like, "you shall not pass!" (c) ))
Sounds like they're ASSHOLES, and so are you. Play your stupid brain exercises somewhere else.
@SittingMooseShaman thats why, before crossing you call the rail road for clearance.
Great job guys. Love it. I used to escort oversize loads.
So is that the same company that got blasted by the amtrak?
What were you hauling?
That's an electrical substation transformer.
I always wondered why is the front edge of the main deck not beveled so a guy get past a few more low spots?
It typically hits in the middle of the deck, not the leading edge.
make them smaller. smaller bits and pieces. quick deliveries.
That's.... not how it works, since they are tested complete prior to shipping.
I was doing traffic control paving a road where we were crossing a track a couple of times, we were required to notify the railroad ahead of time and they send a rail employee out to monitor and warn either the train or us when it because a situation to worry about. That that did come through was doing around 70 , so you can imagine the blow job those of us close to the track got as it went through.
The train was doing side hustles to support its coal habit.
*DING DING DING DING*
Each time I see one of these low-loaders it strikes me that they are almost scraping the road surface from the start. I realize they need to be low to pass under bridges and such, but I am surprised that it's not easier to raise them up some inches when needed. "just" a couple of hydraulic cylinders at each pivot point.... adds some cost of course....
sebofo they actually have hydraulics. that's how they do lift it. both in the neck and the tower on the jeep and rear steering section. Remember, too, that the higher you raise it, the higher the center of gravity, and it can become tippier.
A bridge is one thing,,,, a wire is another, a fucking train you just don't leave to chance.
I have to believe the RR. Is aware if the situation. My butt would be puckered until clear. From my original perspective I thought those overhead wires were going to be a real problem.
How the hell did novices like that get a permit.
Whot was the weight all up 🆙
When does the train hit?!!!🤷😤
We had an Amtrak train go through a house that was being moved. They had neglected to contact the railroad.
yes, i believe we turned onto 2021 instead of 2020. the street numbers are written on small white signs.
What rube planned that route and didn't pre drive it?
You cannot anticipate it all in this job
That was a planed route why didn’t they raise the deck before they approached the tracks
Because wires
If the truckers had placed a set of jumper cables, or a steel bar, across the tracks, the railway would have immediately known there was a problem and stopped all train traffic
Why? When we call them before we cross? Also that make the arms go down on the crossing.
@@scoobertjoo I've stopped trains before at emergency scenes and they still show up sometimes. Placing a bar on the tracks not only activates the crossing lights and bells, but it also causes all the Railway Signals to go RED in the area, stopping the trains for sure. Even tho you notified the railway, there was no guarantee the trains were stopped..
What did you think? It was just going to roll over.
I might have a patent pending! Thousands of ball bearings mounted on the belly!!!
chooch1995 yea like on cargo planes.
Hope your joking. Good Idea, but I don't think it would work. Ball bearings or rollers or skid plates all will still unload you drive tires and lock you down. This concept with the hydraulic lifting is the way to go, but damn some of those specialty trailers can sure dip into you wallet.
You mean like an asphalt destroyer?
I dread to think what would have happened to the trains and trucks anywhere near the route who would have gotten held-up though I guess it was handy for anyone catching a passenger Train a little late?!
Back in the wonderful 80's I use to pull 60', 70; 80' loads across Louisiana.
Back then when you entered there charming state, at either end, there were road signs.
They read road construction next " 189 " miles.
If you have ever had the pleasure, that is the extent of the width of there state.
SO,,, they would route you by way of US 80.
Always an exciting adventure though PODUCT ville.
I always ran I 20.
Not even going to mention Poca West Virginia with a 70' load.
The Five P's. Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance.
No lo podían levantar antes de llegar al crucero
Why not place many 4x8-foot plywood pieces to raise the rolling surface?
Was the railroad paid for trains delayed? I believe a trucking company was charged $6,000/hr for their truck causing a grade crossing collision.
@Jim Allen Having a train proceed to that grade crossing and wait may be blocking other crossings. They try to stop trains where they will be blocking the least crossings or least important crossings.
Other trains up and own the line are likely waiting to proceed.
The state gives the routes , the railroads are notified of the crossing . End of story
You have to have nerves of steel to drive a rig like this.
With a good chase company (Heavy Haul Escort service), it's not as bad as you would think.
I cant help but laugh at the armchair truck drivers commenting. Thanks for the laugh.
Justin Hoke for all the place to get stuck.
Hoke`s the joke!
One big problem with crossing like this is that low vehicles hand up on then. a tour bus hung up on one in the town where I live; a train hit an killed a couple of people. don't know how they solved the problem. they made it over this one that is all that counts. Wonder how got their ass chewed about this screw up. thanks for the video.
we were going around a bridge that could not hold over 40 ton. the other option was 20 helicopters to lift it and carry it.... not really.
That would have been a cool video
the amount of route planners? (whatever title you give the person who made the route) in the comment section is hilarious. I'm a little confused by people saying they "choose a poor route" did no one watch the video? they cleared it, they made the turn, what do you want? LMFAO!
Skills!
7 min. of nothing until the problem was solved.
That's one way of how to catch a train
It's no laughing matter. Try looking up the Hixon rail accident of December 1968 - 11 deaths (including all 3 in the rail locomotive) and 45 injured, 6 seriously. All because nobody made sure that it was safe to cross the tracks with 120-ton transformer on a road transport 145 feet long with 2 prime movers (1 at each end).
Bunch of frickin “experts” on here who haven’t either done this for a living or don’t bother reading comments to find out information
James Simms They cant read or handle problems as they develop.
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А, защо този товар не е натоварен и превозен на железопътен транспорт, на влак...?!,.? Би било много по-удачно...!!!
You could help
not sure why you think it was stupid?
That was scary to watch
HURRY UP THE TRAIN IS COMING.
Rogelio Maza crazy isn’t it. Thought they did a fine job. All the experts in the peanut gallery.
been there done than...realy stressfull
Lol, only when you hear the train horns....
I know this place/ What's he going to do, there's an 80,000 pounds restriction ahead.
His first time. Fire the person that planned the route. Run like hell. No concern for the people on the train.
Wtf are you talking about lmao. Sit back and shut up
Now watch the bridge cave in. Who picked this route?
An engineer did. There was a 40 ton bridge on the main road, the transformer is too heavy to chopper in.
Roger that.
at some point you'd better call the railroad!
Send him school again!!!
Wouldnot even attempt it , with only 6 inch clearance
Oh Dear. Well, all's that can be said about that is shit happens. You did the best with the crappy route you were given.
there's an 800 number on the crossing sign. Call it.
The railroads were notified numbnuts
What's with the name calling? I simply made a statement of fact. Hopefully others will learn that all class 1 railroads post an 800 number at the crossing. I see no reason for dragging this down that road. the railroads? how many? clearly you don't know how this works, but feel free to throw names out as if you are the master of this knowledge?
@@fortwaynefamily clearly i do know how this works. The number is on your permit and the railroads are notified in advance. Secondly this is the route that the "state" gives. You don't simply "drag" it down the road. Bottom line is , nothing was harmed and they got the job done. State police were with them the entire route as well.
not understanding you trailer is very long and nearly low to the ground and the railroad tracks are just a we bit higher thank GOD no trains in the area it could have been deadly
We call the railroad before we cross, for clearance.
Bad route planning there
I dont live on CZcams.