They're stupider than we thought... Behind the Scenes of Rings of Power #1
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To quote Geralt from the Witcher, “they speak nonsense while making wise and meaningful faces”
"Truer words have never been said." Or, however that saying goes. I'm not even a LoTR fan, but just watching these "show runners" just fall all over themselves more than "Alzheimer's Joe" you know it's bad 😞
“F*ck…”
Though in this case they lack the ability to make the wise and meaningful faces...
Honestly how can they be so shameless while speaking like that in-front of camera and thought it was a good idea to public this interview
@@TheUnseenGate They are actors, at least many of the talking heads were - it is what they are paid to do - Read BS from a script like they believe it (in this case unconvincingly), and just hope the writer, director and editors are not incompetent. I'd love to know how much of these interviews got left on the cutting room floor - how many 'Oh so that is what that scene was supposed to be' or 'This is stupid, do I really have to say this bit?' moments did they end up cutting?
Everything about Rings of Power is horrendous, and that's an understatement.
I don’t think it’s by accident. The priority was not to make money by to turn fans against each other. Wokeism indeed. They cannot be this dumb and have such large resources and responsibility.
And somehow rings of power is a masterpiece compared to willow
@@sagethegreat4680 It really isn't, comparisons are not required. Both were rotting garbage, nothing more needs be said.
@@M-S_4321 comparisons are fun like rotting garbage which is what rings was , and filthy putrid disease/ leech infested swamp water which is what willow is . Both are horrible yes one is way worse .
@@sagethegreat4680 idk how to compare crap with crap, and crap is a understatement
Also, these elves in Galaridiels company have been out for 1000 years and also probably fought in the First age battles against Balrogs, Dragons, and more creatures of Morgot and they get their ass kicked by a troll?
The troll was clearly a female, she had plot armour infinitely stronger than any balrog. Girl boss troll.
@@aarons6935 ... well elven males are pansies... soooo .. yea
How else could they have shown us how competent and powaaful girlboss Galadriel is?
except any other, obviously non-stupid, and story-wise engaging way, that doesn't undermine either elves as a whole or men in particular?
I am not even kidding when I say that my homebrew dnd campaign had some monsters present with more thought behind it then that troll...
And my campaign might have actually had more thought then the entire show.
Even a random average game master, is more competent than the creators of this show.
Go apply for a job at Amazon. Oh wait, theyre not hiring men anymore.
surprise zombies in top-hats with purple boeties makes more sense than Alphabet Hollywood trash.
@@TheSuperappelflap my gender on my google account has been apache since 2014, I might stand a chance.
I guarantee every DnD player’s home brew campaign is better than “Rings of Puke.” Because unlike Amazon, DnD players care.
They love themselves so much it's hilarious! It's like watching someone who's been hypnotized to think they're a dance instructor.
Behind the scenes Rings of Power states that the Harfoots are nomads and don’t live in little hills. This says everything about the attitude of the show runners. Tolkien, in the Preface of the Fellowship of the Ring, “Concerning Hobbits”, says regarding the Harfoots “They were the most inclined to settle in one place, and longest preserved their ancestral habit of living in tunnels and holes.” Absolutely exactly the opposite of what they said. What was the point of spending huge sums of money to buy the rights to “The Lord of the Rings”, including the Preface and then ignore what it says.
Would have thought living in caves and holes was a core part of Hobbit identity, all shades of hobbits that is, including Harfoots. It’s not like the showrunners thought anything through at all.
They don't have the rights to use "hobbits". That is why they changed everything.
The sad thing about the behind the scenes is that it shows there were actually some people in there (mostly extras and casting crew) who showed passion for the project, but their passion was completely stomped upon by the editors and writers in the end result.
They got punk'd!
Sorry Tank, but show did over 100 million viewers. They are fast tracking season 3 as we speak.
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 Of course they are fast tracking season 3, they spent 1 billion dollars on 5 seasons from the get go before any audience metric could give them an idea if the project was going to be successful or not. They have to get their money's worth and make what they already paid for.
Can Jeff Bezos make an Amazon Return Policy claim on this show?
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201
It did _25 million_ viewers for the first two episodes. It crashed and burned after that. The season finale was down to just a couple million.
They also moved production to the UK to cut costs, and have had to re-cast some key characters. They've also replaced most of the episode directors.
Rings of Power Team: We worked so hard on the ice troll you guys!
Audience: It’s a bad CGI effect that does nothing and dies…
Like a few seconds after it appeared
@@ocboy5163 All that deliberation for something so pointless.
Hey...I just described the show!
Worked hard? But I wouldn't expect anything from people who had no PlayStation when they were young. How would they know the difference...
I mean. Do these elves need to eat, sleep or drink? They can apparently survive a pyroclastic flow to the face.
Well they can die but it takes a long ass time for them to die from hunger or thirst or exhaustion and they cant get sick, that is kinda lore accurate. But surviving a vulcano eruption is abit much
Aww look, he learned a term that he'll never use in any other conversation from watching people who hate the show.
@@joeterzio7175 pyroclastic flow is a term you should have learned in high school when your teacher explained how volcanoes work, but you were probably too busy giggling at the word 'eruption' to pay attention.
@@TheSuperappelflap "They (Elves) were thus capable of far greater and longer physical exertions (in pursuit of some dominant purpose of their minds) without weariness; they were not subject to diseases; they healed rapidly and completely after injuries that would have proved fatal to Men; and they could endure great physical pain for long periods. Their bodies could not, however, survive vital injuries, or violent assaults upon their structure; nor replace missing members (such as a hand hewn off)." J.R.R.Tolkien
In any case one doesn't need to have pyroclastic flows...lava itself could kill :).
"The watchfires burned low, and the guards were few; on the plain few were waking in the camps of the horsemen of Hithlum. Then suddenly Morgoth sent forth great rivers of flame that ran down swifter than Balrogs from Thangorodrim, and poured over all the plain; and the Mountains of Iron belched forth fires of many poisonous hues, and the fume of them stank upon the air, and was deadly. Thus Ard-galen perished, and fire devoured its grasses; and it became a burned and desolate waste, full of a choking dust, barren and lifeless. Thereafter its name was changed, and it was called Anfauglith, the Gasping Dust. Many charred bones had there their roofless grave; for many of the Noldor perished in that burning, who were caught by the running flame and could not fly to the hills. The heights of Dorthonion and Ered Wethrin held back the fiery torrents, but their woods upon the slopes that looked towards Angband were all kindled, and the smoke wrought confusion among the defenders. Thus began the fourth of the great battles, Dagor Bragollach, the Battle of Sudden Flame."
@@TheSuperappelflap You think that I, the person in advanced classes in high school, the person on a Presidential Scholarship in college, the person who graduated top of his class in electrical engineering and went on to a 30-year career and retired at the age of 51 didn't know what pyroclastic flow was?
I didn't. Which means that you're full of shit when you plebs post about it now when talking about "Rings of Power."
"We used facial hair on the troll, so feminists could feel represented. Then we wanted to add hair in the armpits, but was time for my soy milk and yoga routine, so we forgot about it".
-The master of trolls
No, you missed the point. Facial hair grows in response to testosteron. So the enemy has to have it, of course.
@@Chociewitka Toxic Masculinity!
"Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talking."
Most Americans I know would either use pounds or call it kilograms. The only people I've seen call it kgs didn't know what the unit was, and just said k-g because they didn't know what they were reading.
Yes I’m American and I’ve never heard anyone call it k-g. Everyone I know says kilogram
@@samwise8565 also, that dude's accent is British English, from what I could hear
This is actually the one thing that I disagreed with. I'm a New Zealander and I'm say that all the time.
@@jimhormann6085 Well maybe it's a New Zealander thing? Americans don't go around calling our weights El-Bee-Ess
Comparing the LOTR to ROP is like comparing a Bob Ross painting to a color by number! LOL
A color by number that decided it knew better which numbers meant which colors.
@@mr.cobalt1668 LOL... so what if a number identifies as a color? LOL
Bob Ross and color-by-numbers both have their positives and negatives. I'd say Rings of Power is more like using some great painter (Leonardo da Vinci, or someone) to paint a wall beige... with a roller.
A color by number still looks better than ROP.
And we're just gonna put a happy little balrog in the corner.
Also, fun fact, long time ago there were paint by numbers for adults that would actually make very nice paintings. Obviously ROP is closer to baby's first coloring book but its kinda neat what paint by numbers used to be.
The collective groan from the crew at the beginning was great
I think the fact that the harfoots have so many wagons is gonna make Shad hate the harfoots even more.
How about the fact that such no-tech foraging nomads, who haven't even mastered taming beasts of burden, somehow know how to make and maintain such sophisticated equipment as wagons, for which you'd need a whole production chain, from harvesting and processing the timber to the carpenter making and joining the parts in a well outfitted stationary wagoner's workshop? Especially if you want to make those wagons so light, that one tiny person with the strength of a child can pull it by hand?
WHERE DID THEY GET THE GODDAMN WAGONS FROM IF ALL THEY DO IS MOVE AROUND SCAVENGING AND HIDE FROM EVERYONE? IT MAKES NO SENSE!
@@axelhopfinger533 yeah, the early hobbit societies should be more primitive! It is debatable they would even have any carts at this stage :)...later on when they settle in the Shire and gain greater skill and knowledge of crafts..then yeah they have cartwrights then, carpenters and countless other craftsmen...interestingly there is this fragment from Tolkien texts:
"Hobbits on the other hand were in nearly all respects normal Men, but of very short stature. (..)
They were not as numerous or variable as ordinary Men, but evidently more numerous and adaptable to different modes of life and habitat than the Drûgs, and when they are first encountered in the histories already showed divergences in colouring, stature, and build, and in their ways of life and preferences for different types of country to dwell in (...) In their unrecorded past they must have been a primitive, indeed 'savage' people, but when we meet them they had (in varying degrees) acquired many arts and customs by contact with Men, and to a less extent with Dwarves and Elves. With Men of normal stature they recognized their close kinship, whereas Dwarves or Elves, whether friendly or hostile, were aliens, with whom their relations were uneasy and clouded by fear. Bilbo's statement (...) that the cohabitation of Big Folk and Little Folk in one settlement at Bree was peculiar and nowhere else to be found was probably true in his time (the end of the Third Age); but it would seem that actually Hobbits had liked to live with or near to Big Folk of friendly kind, who with their greater strength protected them from many dangers and enemies and other hostile Men, and received in exchange many services. For it is remarkable that the western Hobbits preserved no trace or memory of any language of their own. The language they spoke when they entered Eriador was evidently adopted from the Men of the Vales of Anduin (related to the Atani, / in particular to those of the House of Bëor [> of the Houses of Hador and of Bëor]); and after their adoption of the Common Speech they retained many words of that origin. This indicates a close association with Big Folk; though the rapid adoption of the Common Speech in Eriador shows Hobbits to have been specially adaptable in this respect. As does also the divergence of the Stoors, who had associated with Men of different sort before they came to the Shire.
The vague tradition preserved by the Hobbits of the Shire was that they had dwelt once in lands by a Great River, but long ago had left them, and found their way through or round high mountains, when they no longer felt at ease in their homes because of the multiplication of the Big Folk and of a shadow of fear that had fallen on the Forest.
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58. Indeed it is probable that only at Bree and in the Shire did any communities of Hobbits survive at that time west of the Misty Mountains. Nothing is known of the situation in lands further east, from which the Hobbits must have migrated in unrecorded ages.
59. When they entered Eriador (early in the second century of the Third Age) Men were still numerous there, both Numenoreans and other Men related to the Atani, beside remnants of Men of evil kinds, hostile to the Kings. (...) (in Appendix B the date of the coming of the Harfoots is given under Third Age 1050, and that of the Fallohides and the Stoors under 1150)." J.R.R.Tolkien. The Peoples of Middle-earth, HoME12
In the same time the show paints a weird picture they are nomads...using carts, pulling them instead of having tamed beasts as you say hehe, even ponies or donkey or anything nothing of that sort :)...BUT in the same time they have books and some form of writing haha...Tolkien actually stated that before Hobbits arrival in Eriador and settling there in the Shire and other places...they are ILLITERATE :)..also the Harfoots were actually HOLE DIGGERS haha so they contradict the lore left and right AND can't make a realistic seeming primitive wandering society :).
Tolkien manages to describe the hobbit societies in way better way realistically depending on their stage of development and place and lifestyle, the settled Hobbits of Shire:
"These (houses) were specially favored by millers, smiths, ropers, and cartwrights, and others of that sort; for even when they had holes to live in, Hobbits had long been accustomed to build sheds and workshops."
This settled society enhanced in arts and crafts, with knowledge and contacts with other races, more refined from their early 'savage' days. The Harfoots themselves ironically were also always more inclined to settle :) so they were not that way of nomadic in lore even in early stages ahah:
"Before the crossing of the mountains the Hobbits had already become divided into three somewhat different breeds: Harfoots, Stoors, and Fallohides. The Harfoots were browner of skin, smaller, and shorter, and they were beardless and bootless; their hands and feet were neat and nimble; and they preferred highlands and hillsides. The Stoors were broader, heavier in build; their feet and hands were larger, and they preferred flat lands and riversides. The Fallohides were fairer of skin and also of hair, and they were taller and slimmer than the others; they were lovers of trees and of woodlands.
The Harfoots had much to do with Dwarves in ancient times, and long lived in the foothills of the mountains. They moved westward early, and roamed over Eriador as far as Weathertop while the others were still in the Wilderland. They were the most normal and representative variety of Hobbit, and far the most numerous. They were the most inclined to settle in one place, and longest preserved their ancestral habit of living in tunnels and holes." Lotr prologue
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" _Hobbit_ was the name usually applied by the Shire-folk to all their kind. Men called them _Halflings_ and the Elves _Periannath._ The origin of the word _hobbit_ was by most forgotten. It seems, however, to have been at first a name given to the Harfoots by the Fallohides and Stoors, and to be a worn-down form of a word preserved more fully in Rohan: _holbytla_ 'hole-builder'." Lotr appendix F
Every spelled out to them...and they contradict it without any sense or reason! The Harfoots being more likely to settle and HOLE BUILDERS from which habit the very NAME HOBBIT is derived from...and they altered it for their insane invention :). Hell...Tolkien is so meticulous he even mentions how hobbit developed the craft of building:
"It is probable that the craft of building, as many other crafts beside, was derived from the Dunedain. But the Hobbits may have learned it direct from the Elves, the teachers of Men in their youth. For the Elves of the High Kindred had not yet forsaken Middle-earth, and they dwelt still at that time at the Grey Havens away to the west, and in other places within reach of the Shire."
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"The craft of building may have come from Elves or Men, but the Hobbits used it in their own fashion. They did not go in for towers. Their houses were usually long, low, and comfortable. The oldest kind were, indeed, no more than built imitations of smials, thatched with dry grass or straw, or roofed with turves, and having walls somewhat bulged. That stage, however, belonged to the early days of the Shire, and hobbit-building had long since been altered, improved by devices, learned from Dwarves, or discovered by themselves. A preference for round windows, and even round doors, was the chief remaining peculiarity of hobbit-architecture."
@@fantasywind3923 Well that was quite the essay! Guess you thoroughly exposed and debunked the RoP writers as absolute hacks who gave a flying poo about Tolkien's established lore. Not as if that would be too difficult for anyone with 2 neurons to rub together. ;)
@@axelhopfinger533 well I was mainly doing it as a souce of interesting funfacts to explore ;).
@@axelhopfinger533lol I was actually refering to Shad's willow review where he said he now hates wagons because of the show. But you made a good point anyway.
This felt more like a trailer for a behind the scenes than an actual look at the production.
I'd been hoping you guys would look at the behind the scenes of RoP, it's absolute insanity.
Yeah its shocking.
I saw Dispura absolutely ridiculed the video in three parts and now it is Knights Watch's turn.
In for a treat! lol
@@ChristmasLore reeeeeeeeee. Go away
@@ChristmasLore🙄 never pass up the chance to be a C U Next Tuesday.
Americans aren't known for their decency.
@@aarons6935 no one is. Reeeeeeeeeeee.
@@freedomslunch Especially if they're American.
The fact he actually called them Hobbits too...😂
Well the Harfoots ARE Hobbits :)...in lore anyway they are the origin of the word:
" Hobbit was the name usually applied by the Shire-folk to all their kind. Men called them Halflings and the Elves Periannath. The origin of the word hobbit was by most forgotten. It seems, however, to have been at first a name given to the Harfoots by the Fallohides and Stoors, and to be a worn-down form of a word preserved more fully in Rohan: holbytla 'hole-builder'." Lotr appendix F
Hahah they completely contradicted the lore here :). Harfoots were more likely to be settled people and they were HOLE DIGGERS :)...they build hobbit-holes hehe.
"Before the crossing of the mountains the Hobbits had already become divided into three somewhat different breeds: Harfoots, Stoors, and Fallohides. The Harfoots were browner of skin, smaller, and shorter, and they were beardless and bootless; their hands and feet were neat and nimble; and they preferred highlands and hillsides. The Stoors were broader, heavier in build; their feet and hands were larger, and they preferred flat lands and riversides. The Fallohides were fairer of skin and also of hair, and they were taller and slimmer than the others; they were lovers of trees and of woodlands.
The Harfoots had much to do with Dwarves in ancient times, and long lived in the foothills of the mountains. They moved westward early, and roamed over Eriador as far as Weathertop while the others were still in the Wilderland. They were the most normal and representative variety of Hobbit, and far the most numerous. They were the most inclined to settle in one place, and longest preserved their ancestral habit of living in tunnels and holes." Lotr prologue
In general though the very fact that they inserted them from the start is a warning sign they don't care for authorial vision of Tolkien, for he wrote about the 'older legends' including Second Age:
"Nearly all are grim and tragic: a long account of the disasters that destroyed the beauty of the Ancient World, from the darkening of Valinor to the Downfall of Númenor and the flight of Elendil. And there are no hobbits. Nor does Gandalf appear." Tolkien letter
And BAHM...voila we have them in the Second Age storyline by Amazon ughh. It's such an obvious corporate mandate!
@@fantasywind3923
Hobbits: Clean look with hairy dirty feet.
Harfoots: Dirty homeless look with clean feet.
Have your expectations been subverted yet? 🥱
@@fantasywind3923 Tolkien saying they are missing, and Gandalf too, also means that in context of the Ring epic, there is only little hope with their absence. The hobbits are a corporation of good, as is Gandalf who is powerful and can influence fate(and turns to "White" later on ..)
@@guyincognito959 Tolkien obviously had deeper meanings in mind, the Hobbits represent several things, as he wrote:
"Many are the strange chances of the world,' said Mithrandir, 'and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak when the Wise falter."
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"The chief of the stories of the Silmarillion, and the one most fully treated is the Story of Beren and Lúthien the Elfmaiden. Here we meet, among other things, the first example of the motive (to become dominant in Hobbits) that the great policies of world history, 'the wheels of the world', are often turned not by the Lords and Governors, even gods, but by the seemingly unknown and weak - owing to the secret life in creation, and the pan unknowable to all wisdom but One, that resides in the intrusions of the Children of God into the Drama. It is Beren the outlawed mortal who succeeds (with the help of Lúthien, a mere maiden even if an elf of royalty) where all the armies and warriors have failed: he penetrates the stronghold of the Enemy and wrests one of the Silmarilli from the Iron Crown. Thus he wins the hand of Lúthien and the first marriage of mortal and immortal is achieved."
- JRR Tolkien (Letter 131, To Milton Waldman), 1951
5:42
-The trace of Morgoth
-What did you say?
-The trace of Morgoth
-What did you say?
-They're taking the hobbits to Isengard...
So this is the show that nerd of the rings praised. I can’t let it go. He knowingly misled his large audience
He's a paid shill. I unfollowed and even reported the guy. I can't believe i used to like that channel so much cause he's a lore channel. Of all the people that should defend Tolkien's honor, it should be him. Instead he's running it.
@@markgregorygacosta531 sameeeee i really liked that channel and subbed to it.then i was sooo disappointed when he praised rings of power i unsubscribed immediately.it was soo disappointing that he got bribed i mean his entire channel is based on tolkien lore and hes a fan and still betrayed lotr fandom and supported rings of power which was clearly an attack on tolkiens legacy(it even released on his death day). It was soo disrespectful and disappointing.
@@markgregorygacosta531 but i am glad i found disparu and this knights watch channels due to the horrid show
I was suggested a nerd of the Rings video a year ago and it was basically a screen rant quality lore dive. I blocked his channel immediately knowing that he was not a true Tolkien fan. Anyone who got suckered by that shill was at best a fan of the PJ trilogy dipping their toes into deeper lore through CZcams instead of reading silmarillion or other middle earth histories.
Morgoth isn't dead, but he did get yeeted into space.
Exactly! That just means he's dead to us because we would die for something like that😂
So the clothes are worn out from wearing them for years... Haven't they think about changing their clothes?🤣
Actual fans: Morgoth and Sauron are two different characters you dolt!
RoP cast: They're one and the same hoppity popity derp 🤑
Can you imagine working behind the set in this as a fan and watching this Billion dollar trainwreck slowly unfold? Now THAT is the behind-the-scenes I want to hear about.
I can't wait until the NDAs are up, man. It's gonna be one heck of a wait, but you KNOW it's gonna be juicy.
I can imagine the similar sentiments of the props department on the Master Cheeks show. All the hard work putting together the weapons and armor, wasted by producers and writers who have absolutely no interest in established lore.
I’ve never worked on a film set, but I have worked for Amazon. I feel like I could probably imagine the absolute cluster fuck
This isn’t *FAN-FICTION,* This is *FAN OF CURRENT THING-FICTION!*
the closeups to your confused/disgusted faces were hilarious lol
No they weren't.
14:20 To Tyrant's point, I once pointed out to my mate while we were co-oping an RPG, "Have you ever noticed that while we're going through these dungeons and killing everyone in it for loot, that we're actually staging a home invasion and murdering people where they live? Like that's why they're attacking us! We're here to brutally murder them and take their shit. We're not the heroes. We are the arseholes in this universe."
My mate thought about it and...
Now he won't play RPGs with me anymore.
fair enough 😂
although if you/the GM put a little effort in it, you can find reasons to.. proactively engage a group of dungeon dwelling "monsters"
even if it is technically their home
@@Yourehistronic We were playing a video game. So consider it an exploration of the subtextual messaging of certain adventure/RPG video games. e.g. Think critically about every dungeon in ... Skyrim.
@@Rawrshuga Many of the dungeons are tombs with dead stuff, so not really a home.
That's why I always establish that the dungeon dwellers are raiding settlements.
If the place I’m invading is filled with bandits or demons I don’t care if that’s their home
This just proves beyond a doubt they had no understanding, even on a superficial level, of Tolkien's themes.
you are wrong. They understand, and change it on purpose.
@@stunningbrave5819 That's giving them too much credit.
@@amandag5072 this mindset is why we are where we are
These people are wvil but not stupid. They subvert on purpose.
As long as people dont understand this, we are lost.
@@stunningbrave5819 Stupidity and greed are far more common than evil. By labelling them evil you give them too much credit. Credit they don't deserve as they are stupid. Ignorant, stupid and greedy.
Hahahaha they thought they would do the appendices all over again😂
It is clear that there was a lot of thought put into everything we've seen in the series. It is also painfully clear that the results are the consequence of the collective IQ of the production team.
Of course Elves eat. The first encounter with the Wood-elves in The Hobbit has them feasting:
"There were many people there, elvish-looking folk, all dressed in green and brown and sitting on sawn rings of the felled trees in a great circle. There was a fire in their midst and there were torches fastened to some of the trees round about; but most splendid sight of all: they were eating and drinking and laughing merrily.
The smell of the roast meats was so enchanting that, without waiting to consult one another, every one of them got up and scrambled forwards into the ring with the one idea of begging for some food."
The Hobbit, Flies and Spiders
And repeatedly thereafter...
yes, but where do elves poo and pee? hmmm? ever think of that??
Harfoot: "Cloaking shields activated!"
They thought that deep into meaningless things, and ended up producing nothing with meaning....
In b4 the "iT's NoT tHaT bAd!" (non)defenses. That's the standard now apparently. Imagine someone saying to you in May '77 that we should go see this movie by the guy who did _American Graffiti_ because "it's not that bad!"
08:59 The collective groan 🤣🤣🤣
I think everyone other than Kristen Stewart give Twilight the edge over ROP. At least she was the only one who couldn't act her way out of a paper bag. ROP was the reverse. You had one or two who could act while the others couldn't.
Amazon managed to engage with LOTR superfans, just not the way they hoped for
I love how in the begining that dude just tells what happens in the scene withouth adding anything extra. True behind the scenes experience.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate Viggo. Maybe we should have him work outfits on future LoTR projects. Warriors that have been out and about for years, let alone a millenia, will not be glamorous.
At least ROP resulted in so many fun and entertaining review vids all over youtube
Monty Python had bigger Fight Scenes then Rings of Power!
That outro was better than all the episodes of Rings of Power combined 😂
It's amazing that even behind teh cameras, they keep the pretentiousness to the max.
Such commitment.
Thank you for your sacrifice.
It seems that they compressed the timeline so much, the creators themselves didn't understand how time works any longer.
Marcus is quickly becoming my favorite! Wicked sense of humor and no effs given 😂
Cheers for the compliments.
The BEST PART is they are jumping up and down declaring "Flawless Victory!" while the whole world points and laughs.
"She's scrappier than some of the elves in the beginning because she's using the connection that makes you an elf."
So, some of the elves weren't aggressive and determined because they just weren't feeling like elves that day? The connection that makes you an elf makes you scrappy? I'm not sure how to interpret that line.
She actually says 'losing the connection', it can be spotted on the subtitles at 24:08. But that aside, it's absolute mockery of Galadriel's intended character to be a scrappy little 5-year-old temperamented child.
@@marauderhealth9639 I re-listened and it does sound like 'losing.' But that's just as confusing. Is losing her connection making her more aggressive?
@@chriscollins2095 That is what she's implying, I imagine, yes.
I did not even notice that Galadriel's company did not bring any equipment with them. Sure they had torches, weapons, armor, and their clothes (hooded cloaks, boots, etc) but nothing else. In my novels my Company is traveling for nine months and they have packs full of stuff; tents, blankets, bed rolls, extra clothes, rope, pitons, dried foodstuffs, little tools (hammers, pick, flint & tinder boxes, etc).
"Go buy the extended editions and watch them!"
Me, who already owns them: Don't mind if I do
21:14 Lembas bread, Nathan? How could you forget LEMBAS BREAD!!!
The showrunners clearly saw the original trilogy and thought that Elves only ever ride a boat to Valinor to leave Middle-Earth forever and that's how it works. Travel from and to Valinor were really common in the Second Age (at least for elves).
Yes, do more of these! You guys are great together. Thoroughly enjoyed this.
I just watched Sergio Leone's "Once Upon a Time in the West", and man that old movie felt good! Despite its age you should make some kind of reviev of it!
I have a tempest inside me. When is the next rest stop? I reaaaaaaally gotta go.
Nathan - you are actually starting to get confident and talk about stuff well. Good job! You are rapidly progressing onward from just being "That quiet guy with glasses" =)
I've always loved in fantasy shows how they wear the mail coif without any padding in direct contact with their skin and that coif looks like they just made a tube and cut out the hole for the actors face
So, the troll just sits around until triggered into action like a video game spawn point? LOL
Ohh boy
Even the behind the scenes has plot holes
did you catch the guy who says "trace of Morgoth" setting the tone-deafness of those involved by also saying Galadriel goes from child to the second age in 10 years and then shortly after Morffyd says "a thousand years"?
29:26 Nice team work there guys.
I love Marcus. Dude brings some fantastic passion, knowledge, and humor to the round table. Great find, lads
19:26 a lot more. She's holding the whole show on her back! 🤣
14:14 galadriel was an intruder and galadriel was invading his house😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that was epicccc
Well to be fair, Morgoth just means "dark enemy" / "dark dead person" and is used as a "new" name for Melkor, but theoretically could refer to Sauron. Besides hunting the "trace of Morgoth" could mean hunting the leftovers of his evil doings which would include Sauron.
Except the show presented them as two distinct people. Morgoth destroyed the Trees of Light and Sauron was Morgoth's lieutenant.
Real life battlefields never looked like that, like a rave disco. Holding the line, staying together as a unit were detrimental to ancient and medieval battles.
Both armies' ranks would have to brake simultaneously and then just deciding to rush the enemy instead of retreating and regrouping.
Ancient and medieval battles being chaotic is a modern meme. They were chaos only for the losing side after they had to choose between legging it or dying. The more organised and disciplined army always won (If even In numbers)
"THE SCENES ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!"
Great Video The Troll part was the best. The poor bastard was butchered by this Elves in his own home for no reason. 😅
This is going to be a long five minutes isn't it.
One of the best videos on the channel. Feels like you guys are settling in as a team. For sure we can see everyone is starting to feel more comfortable on camera.
Also, this is a great series idea. Behind the scenes with you guys that run behind the scenes. There has to be a good title in there somewhere. Love Shad of course but it was also nice to not have to turn the volume down. Shad is like a commercial on cable 20 years ago. 🤪. Love you Shad.
Keep up the great work boys. It’s being seen.
@18:50 That's actually how many New Zealanders talk when describing weight.
In the following segment, are they suggesting the elves have been wearing the same clothes for centuries and never changed? If so it's no wonder they never found Sauron, the stench would have driven him away!
Question: If you're walking around in a blizzard, climbing icy mountains etc ...would you even want to be covered in plate-armor and chain-mail resting directly on your head and skin? Metal gets cold, really cold.
Or if you are a woman living in a village, would you wear a dress right on your naked body without undershirt having your shoulders uncovered and boobs showing off
Add in that endurance was a problem without armor, and you'll quickly see how stupid it all is.
Predators track by scent; not so much by sight.
The armor looks like that worn by space aliens in a cheap sci-fi movie.
18:40
definitely something that was written beforehand, and read by a person who had no idea how to read it, or what it meant.
I had a fellow classmate read straight (I kid you not), phonetically, KBPS, when speaking about comm speeds in a computer science class.
her: _unintelligible gibberish_
teacher: "...what?"
her: _gibberish_
teacher: _clueless_
me: "You mean KILOBITS PER SECOND."
her: "Ohhhh...."
teacher: "Oh, indeed."
I can tell this is going to be an excruciating series 😖 I commend your bravery, Knights!
This is what it looks like when the writers worked harder on the scripts for the behind the scenes than the show
The stuff I don't understand (sarcasm) is why the heck they need to make sets of a forest and some rocks, or sets of a fkin raft on the sea. Was it so hard to go out and find some trees or go to the sea/lake?
You aren't going to spend a billion dollars trying to do shit that makes sense!
@@ericvulgate (furiously pocketing the budget)
They all move to New Zealand to shoot in a studio, which means spending more money. They didn't even think about this.
To be fair, there's costs associated with renting a pristine plot of land and getting permission to fix it up to be ready for a bunch of crew to trample around on it and to maybe even change the landscape so they can have their epic scene of dangling off a cliff that wasn't there before. Add water and then you're having to do a bunch of safety classes on how to swim in the real ocean instead of just telling everyone "this water is only two feet deep, but pretend it's deeper, okay?"
That said, they had more than enough money to do that...
@@amyb.6368 Yes of course making a tiny indoor set like that is cheaper than renting unused land for a few days and trucking people around. But if you go bigger than a large living room size, and actually want to show more than two backdrops for your scenes, real location is cheaper. That's one of the reasons the show has this "sitcom" vibe, mostly static shots, all big stuff is straight CGI and only 2 real-ish places for most of the plot (respective to their storyline). The only team that did this properly was the one filming the Hobobits. FIY their tank was bigger than just 2 feet deep, there are plenty of lakes and sea shores where the water isn't dangerous and you have to hire trained and certified scuba diving filming crews anyway to do underwater or "wet" scenes even if you are filming in a pool
15:10
This reminds me of the call of duty ghosts behind the scenes way back where the guy said: "Fish move out the way when you get near them".
Morgoth is not dead. He's a god. He's locked in the void until the end of time. However, it does show how little the director's know about Tolkien's lore and the books.
I think those poor harfoot darlings were really afraid of those evil, evil bayrachtars (IR detection not yet evolved. And btw, those "worgs" are almost exactly hell pigs, biologically known as entelodonts.
what you said about the Wargs, my thoughts exactly: Archaeotherium with the body of a wolf.
NATHAN IS ALIVE!!! WOOHOO!
I paused around 17:11 on your video when the elf is swinging his sword around and I noticed that he almost lopped his comrades head off (if he wasnt already in a rather awkward looking crouch stance) no wonder they all died, its a wonder they didn't all do themselves and each other in by accident, ( a possible reason behind the ridiculously stupid "sword on arm method " might be to prevent such accidents from happening , All sarcasticness aside they have no idea what they are doing or what they are even saying,
You lads are doing an excellent job 👏
Keep it up!
When we (Americans) talk about kilograms we say kilograms. Don't put that evil on us.
7:30
"Galadriel brings back Sauron"
and that could still be SUCH A GOOD PLOT, if only they knew how to pull it off!
that the whole of LOTR would be Galadriel's fault, while still having Galadriel be an important piece of LOTR for the side of good, and trying to fix her mistakes, could still work!
the problem is, *this* Galadriel "makes no mistakes" by decree!
17:30 that stance is "we always use guns. Whats this pointer thing?"
Regarding the elves lore they don't need to eat they can't die of starvation or dehydration but they would still suffer from starving or thirst so they do and they don't. They still wouldn't just go on this quest without food
The Elves were specifically told they could not defeat Morgoth. The Valar had to do it for them: wtf is she talking about? Clearly none of these people have read the Silmarillion. Or even the Sparknotes.
That troll is far too cute, even for a Hobbit.
The behind the scenes sound like they are reading from the script then the other half are just saying words they think go together. The amount of gibberish when explaining things is hilarious
I love shad’s crew. Way better than Mr beasts crew. They actually seem like good friends.?
Morfydd Clark makes me feel like she will just release the polymorph spell she is under and we will see the Hag's true form.
I’ll never understand why the idea of gypsy hobbits seemed like a good one to the writers…
yeah, comparing miss galadriels acting and pronunciation of elvish etc to THE Sir Christopher Lee is like comparing a pebble to a magnificent mountain
American engineer here: I sometimes say “kay-gee”, but most often “kilo-gram”. I don’t hear anyone say “kilo” much.
Americans use freedom units (pounds). We're not claiming the 20 kgs guy.
The reason you don't see a cook with the Elves is because they're letting their cook boss them around like a bunch of simps.
Vee is right. Politics is now more entertaining (and more of an entertainment) than actual entertainment.
I like the chill new guys
Does anyone else find it hilarious that the one group of characters the show-runners deliberately brought in to be fan favorites and openly admitted nostalgia bait are also the one group of characters most despised by viewers?
Behind the scene showed us how bad they were making the RoP