Hardest Boss in Every Soulsborne Game Ranked (Including Elden Ring)
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Intro:
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3: 5:28
2: 7:26
1: 9:20 - Hry
The waterfowl dance has a timer, she can't just spam it. So if there is a long time since she last did it, be ready
No one listen to this bloke, cuz hes lying
Hot take: i really like melania. She made me think of a strategy to beat her (no ashes or summons tho) and i really like it when games force me to plan beforehand how to fight.
Same
for me the situation is different. I also like when you need to think and plan your fight to defeat the boss, but Malenia is too much for me. I spent 50 attempts on her with mimic tear, my own tear and dual katanas, but didn’t kill her. I think the problem is that I went through all the souls games with a shield and I don't have enough reaction. I killed Manus, Artorias and Kalamith on the first try. I can say the same about the demon prince in ds3. the fume knight fell from the seventh. Now I’m playing Bloodborne and i’m in Y’aargul. Probably i’m going to try and defeat her after bloodborne because it’s quite fast and there is no shields. This will definitely help me to improve my reaction.
Healing with every single hit is straight up unfair. I did manage to beat her after many hours of trying,but it still didn't make me change my mind. Healing with every single hit she does is just insanely unfair. Almost drove me crazy. And let's not forget that she pulls her waterflow dance move completely randomly,even if you are directly under her which 99% of the time results in instant death. In order to beat her with no summons or crazy weapons you need to not touch grass for days and just learn all her attack patterns like the back of your hand. And it still might not be enough without some luck on your part. It's the only souls boss that i would consider to be actually unfair to the player
Same. Finally solo’d her with the magma blade
@@G_Kostop its not the hit its her oneshot bullshit. She is actually really easy to dodge and easy to punish, the heal only makes it more of an endurance. But for me that one attack ruined her.
My opinion on some of these ranks is definitely a bit different, as I like to account partially for how hard some fights are relative to when you encounter them for the first time. Anyways, my personal ranking would probably go:
7. Manus: Honestly a tough but fair fight. Definitely way faster and more complex than anything else in DS1, but I think he's honestly pretty fair for the most part. This is highly subjective, but I've never had a ton of problems with the fight.
6. Flamelurker: This is a fight that shows how far Fromsoft's boss design has come. The guy's AI is super basic, throwing out really repetitive moves with ridiculously fast windups that can be incredibly hard to punish with larger weapons. His hitboxes have hard-to-gauge AoE effects that can clip you even on a successful dodge, and he constantly jumps around at random in a way that makes the encounter just feel unpredictable. The Maneaters are also up there, but I personally think the runback to their fight isn't quite as bad, and based on the area I personally prefer to save them for late game anyways.
5. Fume Knight: Hands-down the hardest fight in DS2. His moves hit like a truck, and some of his attacks are deceptively fast considering how large his weapons are. He's pretty easy to read after a while, but he's similar to Nameless King in that small mistakes can get punished very hard.
4. Sister Friede: It's a toss-up between most of the DLC bosses, but Sister Friede wins out due to the sheer endurance it takes to get through all three phases of her fight. She's not as tanky as Midir or Gale, but her speed in phase 3 makes her the greatest challenge imo. There are also just a lot of smaller obstacles thrown into the fight, like having to deal with the 2v1 in phase 2 and learning how to counter her invisibility.
3. Headless Ape: This might be an odd choice, but I think this fight is just awful on the first playthrough. The Ape is fought only about halfway into the game, and he's like a prototype Demon of Hatred that throws out a lot of the traditional tells you've grown used to. I haven't had as much trouble on repeat playthroughs, but my first win took more time than Isshin (who is tough but feels like a very proper culmination of everything that the game has taught you so far).
2. Orphan of Kos: I don't think this fight is comparatively as big of a difficulty spike as some others, but by virtue of being the toughest boss with Bloodborne's fast and aggressive combat system, I have to rank him pretty highly. Phase 1 is pretty learnable, but Phase 2 is the section where this fight becomes a total nightmare. I was using a larger weapon for this fight, and I definitely feel like that influenced the amount of time it took me to overcome him. Watching saw cleaver footage makes me think this fight is probably more manageable with a faster weapon with some stagger potential.
1. Malenia: Not much to say. Waterfowl makes this fight a brutal difficulty spike. There isn't a single other fight in the series that was more rewarding to beat after countless hours of grinding it out.
I ain’t reading allat
So far I've just gotten to Isshin, (literally just one attempt) but so far I agree on Headless Ape. Heck, both versions had me raging. It might have been a couple less attempts then Demon of Hatred for me, but I was far angrier because I knew they were only mid game bosses. I don't mind "suffering" to endgame bosses, but early and mid game struggles make me mad because I view them as just being in the way, not the endgame.
Imma hard disagree on headless ape. Proper prosthetic use absolutely dominates both of them. Umbrella, spears firecrackers, absolutely trivialize both.
@@usxldcom7543 Yeah I realized how great firecrackers are during the duo fight. Unfortunately did not have the spear on my first go, so that made things a bit tougher. On repeat playthroughs neither fight is much trouble for me.
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Solid list my brother
Hot take: without waterfowl malenia is significantly easier than most of these bosses
@@BBQcheese nah I’ve beaten the game 6 times now. Not saying she’s an easy fight everytime but her attacks are definitely easier to dodge than friedes except water fowl
@@BBQcheese I mean I don’t think it’s reasonable to include challenge runs for just ranking general difficulty. Her stagger cancels in first phase is just waterfowl, and in second phase she has the kick or the flying moves which are pretty easy to dodge in my opinion excluding waterfowl
@@BBQcheese I mean she doesn’t have a way to get out of stagger in phase one except for waterfowl dance. Otherwise you can just keep her staggered
@@BBQcheese I have honestly never seen her in phase one cancel a stagger into a block. The only ever time she’s gotten out of a stagger for me in phase one is either 1) I run out of stamina which really isn’t getting out of a stagger or 2) waterfowl. And this is all besides the point. Even if she could get out of stagger. Nothing she does is even that threatening EXCEPT waterfowl. Everything else can easily be reacted to if what you’re saying is correct with blocking or dashing away
@@BBQcheese no worries about the delay. And you very much are probably righty about all that and I just haven’t seen it or something. (I find that weird honestly cause my first playthrough used a knife but maybe I just didn’t notice). In any case I find that basically any build in elden ring can have the resources to beat her much easier than some of these other bosses. Ofc if you’re doing some challenge run with restricted weapons or tools she is probably harder than everyone except orphan in my opinion but like I said challenges don’t count to me when talking difficulty of a boss.
For me Orphan and Friede share rank 3. Both are pretty much the only fights that still scare me a bit when going into a DS3 or BB playthrough. I don't die a ton to them anymore and when i was playing the games more i even had some 1st tries but for me there is no question that they are the hardest in DS3 and BB.
Inner Father is number 2. In the main game i also would have said Isshin, maybe Demon of hatred but after the release of the inner bosses, Inner father definitly takes it. On a charmless+Demon Bell run he is absolutely insane. Easily one of the hardest hitting and hardest to read bosses ever. If Malenia didn't have the waterfowl dance, Inner Father would honestly be harder than her.
And that should also make it clear that i too have Malenia at the top. Her entire movepool is pretty tough but waterfowl dance of course puts her over the edge. Hands down the hardest boss Fromsoft ever made.
I might be an exception but Friede always felt very easy for me after I managed to defeat her the 1st time and realized her weakness, mainly cause she's extremely vulnerable against heavy charged attacks and you can just keep pancaking and staggering her even with a mid-sized weapon. Gael was the real menace for me, in the best way possible. Friede'a fight feels rather dragged and I think the only difficulty comes from having 3 complete healthbars, which is not a good mechanical indicator of "difficulty" (cause you know... just slapping more HP to anything won't really make it difficult, rather boring. Imagine Gael having a full healthbar for all his 3 phases.
Right there with you, and it's the same for me with midir. It's rare either require more than 3 tries for me. But yeah Gael and the camera and my greed in nameless king are the true threats of every playthrough lmao
I agree. She is my favorite boss ever, and she is still challenging, but almost all of the Ringed City bosses were more difficult for me, particularly Midir.
I’m glad you made the right choice for DS3. If you’ve ever played an SL1 run of the game, it’s not even close. I died to Midir, SoC, and Gael a few times, but nothing even came close to how long Freide took me.
I actually have found demon princes hardest for me on SL1 but maybe I’m just a goof
Sometimes all I want is soulsborne listacles. Thanks man lol
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The disrespect for the defiled Watchdog man. Nobody remembers him. Definitely way harder than the Old Hunters gang
Nah defiled Amygdala in Cursed Pthumerian Defilement
I swear to God it was the first attempt to kill the orphan of kos, he was so crazy that he left the game for a month and then returned it
Im totally in a different boat here on a lot of these haha
I would love a video of these bosses ranked by quality
maybe you could do a list of 10 best cutscenes next? or after the er dlc a ranking of all the dlcs?
Yo fight the inner boss fights. ESPECIALLY Inner Father. So worth it. I thought I’d never do gauntlets, but man it was worth it. Inner father is one of the best and hardest fights in Sekiro. He teleports around, adds a bunch of new moves, chains together 7-8 hit combos, and is just an insane fight all around. Inner Isshin is stupid hard too.
Orphan pummeling you with a placenta and screeching the whole time is a pretty accurate representation of how a bad period feels XD
The inner bosses are all pretty easy but still harder than the base bosses. Inner isshin is probably the hardest sekiro boss for me because on 1st phase he does this super quick slash like mid hit, and then sweep attacks you when you're staggered and can't jump out of the way.
The gank bosses in DS2, Darklurker, the Blue fire boss in the dlc was very brutal than Fume Knight.
Fume Knight is easy if you only keep a distance and use the heavy crossbow, you'll survive
I haven't played BB nor DeS, so here's my ranking:
5. DS2: Sir Alonne - yes, Fume Knight can be challenging, and 2nd phase changes the fight significantly, Alonne has just really strong moveset. He can be cheesed by shields, but we are not using those. Tough, but fair.
4. Sekiro: Demon of Hatred - he felt difficult because of how unique he was in this sea of Humanoid Bosses. I have really good mastery of parrying, so other bosses are a breeze for me (except for Inner Father and Inner Isshin, but they still take me 2-3 tries before I beat them). Demon is the only fight I really feared when doing No Death Sekiro Run, so that's saying something.
3. DS1: Manus, Father of the Abyss - the only one we agree on. Initially I thought O&S are harder, but then I got to 2nd playtrough after finishing the Trilogy (I've beaten Sekiro before DS1) and oh boy, Manus grew up on me. Very Hard boss, even though he is from the oldest FromSoft game I played, and that's saying something.
2. DS3: Slave Knight Gael - Friede is squishy, and 3rd phase is the only very hard thing about her, Midir is tankier than Gael, but his attacks are less weird, and Nameless can be learned. Gael's moveset is just weird in 1st phase, he is a prototype of an ER boss, for sure. And then we have 2nd and 3rd phase. 2nd is easy, but can get you, and then 3rd is really overwhelming with stuff happening on screen. Lightning, Dark Soul thingies, bolts, and Gael everywhere. And his HP, while not the highest, is really high.
1. ER - Maliketh, the Black Blade - Malenia's attacks are a child's play to dodge (except for Waterfowl and Clones). Radahn is a tough midgame boss, but he's in midgame. Morgott has really weird moveset, but liw stats (still harder than Malenia and Radahn), and Mohg is the Lord of Delay. Maliketh is everywhere, he is hard to get a hit to (if you are not aggressive, something in my brain tells me to wait until his attacks end, and that's a mistake). He deals very high damage, and is overall a real threat. He has little HP bar, but it's not an issue for him when he's hard to hit.
While Maliketh is definitely hard, he has some of the biggest openings in Elden ring. If you play up close some of his attacks straight up miss you. Personally I find Malenia at least 3x harder.
The difficulty of Isshin falls off a bit on repeat playthroughs however if you play charmless with the demon bell active then the difficulty comes back. You may think you have mastered the fight but then take the training wheels off and the difficulty comes back. Shame you didn’t fight Inner Father or Inner Isshin, they are pretty tough and Inner Father is especially brutal when playing charmless with demon bell active. I still don’t think they’re as difficult as Melania but they’re up there. Personally I think the base difficulty of Sekiro is too easy but the first playthrough is still pretty tough as I died to Isshin many times before I was able to beat him.
I honestly nowadays find Orphan harder to deal with than Malenia. On my first playtrough I probably died to Malenia more but even after multiple playtroughs Orphan is a threat, Malenia isn't.
Orphan is a fair fight tho, malenia always has some random bullshit to pull out every time you fight her
@@ArjunB5 Malenia is way more consistant than Orphan imo. Waterfowl is worst thing that she can use and I would rather deal with Waterfowl than some of Orphan's combos.
I think Malenia is harder than Orphan, but I still suck at dodging Waterfowl. Without that move, she's not hard. Orphan has a lot of difficult moves and he jumps around like a maniac. Orphan is the only boss that I am scared of every time I face it. You can luck your way through Malenia if she turns into a flower, but Orphan will never give you a free win. I much prefer Orphan of Kos as it's a fair fight.
How ? OOK is very easy compared to Malenia you must be using op cheese that even a below average player can use to beat the game with
@@brettmartin3529 " If Malenia didn't use her moves she wouldn't be hard" If OOK didn't use his lightning he would be easy too
You should try or see the inner bosses in difficulty: inner father>inner isshin>inner genichiro
Dude, your take on owl father is so true. His boss rush mode only took me one try because his moveset largely isn’t that different. I don’t understand why people consistently rate him over Demon of Hatred or Isshin. It just doesn’t MAKE SENSE
Inner Father's mist raven changes everything lmao.
Inner Father > Inner Isshin > Inner Genichiro
@@davidnewhart2533 I guess it depends on the person. Owl father and inner owl weren’t that hard for me because like I said they are still very similar with huge windows for punish. Especially his fire phoenix attack that you can always Mikiri. Whereas DOH is just aids and Isshin is probably just as hard as Owl but with more health so ig it’s a toss up on play styles
I got killed way too many times by the explosive slash (which in hindsight is pretty easy to avoid, but I just wasn't good enough back then)
@@painhurtssometimes2185Both DoH and Inner Isshin have just as many, if not more punishable windows than Inner Father, especially DoH. DoH is pretty manageable with Divine Confetti + Lotus Umbrella + Malcontent + Ako/Yashariku's Sugar, hell you can pretty much melt his 3rd phase in a flash if you've got the timings down on Malcontent alongside the attack buffing consumables.. Inner Isshin is also pretty manageable once you've gotten down the counters to all his moves and use Long Spark to interrupt a bunch of his super moves and Sakura Dance in the 3rd phase. Inner Father was the hardest to master out of all the Inner bosses for me since his posture bar healed quite easily and you couldn't just interrupt most of his devastating attacks with Long Spark, and I would also say he's Sekiro's best boss since everything feels fair and fun to deflect and counter in his fight. Inner Father > Inner Genichiro > Inner Isshin imo.
It’s weird bc I always hear other people claiming Manus to be very difficult, but I always beat him in the first or second try. Can’t say I do the same for the other DLC bosses in DS1 though lol
with my experience with malenia she has like 3 points in her health bar were she would use the waterfow dance, most of the time i look at that and then try to keep my distance
Right after Elden Ring I finally got my hands on sekiro. After 2 days of fighting the demon I finally reached the sword saint I’ve heard so much about. I was scared of another Laurence or malenia situation. Then I literally first tried him lmao.
Right after finishing sekiro I played bloodborne another time after more than a year not touching the game at all. Again I was scared of Laurence. I have fought him only once before. Then I first tried him. Orphan of kos also only took me 20 minutes instead of the 4 days it demanded me on my first playthrough.
Malenia changed me. No summons/bad weapon NG+5 Malenia changed me.
Tip for waterfowl she doesn’t start using it until around just above half health
I believe Malenia uses her waterfowl dance time and time again when her HP was chopped down to 70%, 45%, 15%. she'll use her Waterfowl Dance for about 180 seconds if her HP stays in those thresholds.
My ranking is thus:
7. Fume Knight
6. Maneaters
5. Friede
4. Manus, Father of the Abyss
3. Isshin
2. Orphan of Kos
1. Soldier of Godrick
Bruh after having NG5 playthrough experience of sekiro and NG3 for elden ring i can honestly say that Inner isshin and inner father are WAYYYYY HARDER than MALENIA
inner isshin is insane and u haven't fought him? try it, it's a real struggle even getting there
Ive beaten bloodborne, ds1, ds3, sekiro (besides owl father because i missed him and the shura ending bosses) and i havent completed elden ring yet but Maliketh has been the hardest for me. The longest ive taken for bosses were Orphan, Ludwig, and sulyvahn who all took the afternoon and a few tries the next day.
Then Maliketh wipes the floor with me for 4 days. On the fourth i beat him first try but he easily took the most attempts. The main thing slipping me up was his phase 2 aoe where he hits the ground in front of him and does a 600x600 meter wide flurry of slashes.
Reference for other bosses
Gwyn took probably 6-10+ tries. Didnt keep track and the runback took up 90% of the time.
Soul of cinder took 4 tries
Midir took 8 or so tries
Gael took 3 or 4 tries
Sword Saint Isshin took 2 tries
Demon of Hatred took a lot but i beat him in an afternoon (and had fun unlike maliketh)
Never took count of Pontiff, ludwig or Orphan (did orphan and ludwig in ng+ and they took about the same amount of time as in ng)
I just beat Bloodborne and orphan of kos yesterday
nice
hardest ds1 boss for me was kalameet. I just never figured out his moveset, also the camera fought against me.
Manus was comparativly easy to figure out
Hardest Bloodborne boss was curaed Chalice Amygdala. What where they thinking, putting that boss in a smaller room with half your health
I feel like Nameless King is more difficult than Friede purely because you can stagger Friede very easily, Nameless King feels like an endurance battle while Friede can be rushed down pretty easily despite the three health bars
7: Flamelurker
6: Throne Watcher and Defender
5: Kalameet
4: Lawerence
3: Sister Friede
2: The Sword Saint
1: Malenia
After beating the orphan of kos in less than 10 attempts couple of days ago I can definitely say the hardest 2 fights for me are inner father and gael, inner father because I didn't practice him enough and the boss himself have insane verity and speed and gael because he has 3 completely different phases, dose insane damage, extremely tanky and his cape is very tricky to deal with, third place is malenia who despite still being tough I found her nowadays way more manageable than before, btw malenia is way harder than sigrun even on the hardest difficulty
Gael is consistently hard for me. I beat him on NG+4 once, haven't bothered to challenge him on higher NG cycles. That NG+4 win I had against him was after many attempts and even the win had me resorting to using the Divine Blessing to survive.
I don’t get how people say Sigrun is harder than Malenia. I feel like the earlier Valkyrie fights gave me trouble, but by the time I reached Sigrun I was ready for everything she threw at me and managed to beat her in 5 tries on the second highest difficulty without revival items (I straight up forgot they existed lmao). Meanwhile, Malenia had me spending like 3 hours per day over the course of 6 days trying to beat her, and that was with a frost-bleed dual katana build. I agree with you that Malenia is the hardest boss I have ever fought, I used to think it was like… Yozora or Data Xion from KH3, but they only took me around 2-3 hours to beat. Malenia took me 15-20 hours 🗿
I haven't finished Demon's Souls or Elden Ring, so I'll make my top 7 with the bosses that I've beaten and that have cost me the most on my first playthrough in every Souls game.
7-Tower Knight
6-Fire Giant
5-Manus
4-Ruin Centinels
3-Nameless King
2-Guardian Ape
1-Laurence
For Dark Souls, shoutout to Kalameet. I did defeat Manus, while I have yet to do so with Kalameet.
"The difficulty of Isshin falls off in later playthroughs."
Say that out loud and really think about whether that makes sense. Ofc the difficulty falls off in later playthroughs, so does every other boss because you get better. That is not a valid reason to prevent him from taking #1 and on my list, he is.
Yes, but Isshin falls off way more than any hard souls boss. Honestly even first playthrough wise he still wouldn’t make my top 10 hardest.
Do you take NG+ into consideration when making these rankings? Cause sure Laurance isn't too bad in the vanilla game but in NG+ cycles, two quick swipes and you're out even if you have an inflated HP. He also has a huge hitbox since he is such a large creature and unlike Orphan the arena is relatively cramped so you can't run away from him for too long.
I bought the DLC only when I was already in a NG+2 run and I can tell without a doubt, Laurence was the hardest boss I ever faced in a soulsborn game (never had the chance to play Sekiro tho)
Agreed. Kos isn’t bad in subsequent ng+ cycles but Lawrence is soooo hard
@@hanielcastro8278 laurence ng+7 💀
@@matthewweaver8212 Personally I still found Kos to be the hardest even on ng+6 ( max scaling ) but Laurence was a close second , it actually is funny how much harder these 2 bosses are on ng+6 compared to everything else .
Laurence is straight up unfair. Plus if he catches you right at the end of your dodge which does happen a lot, be prepared to be basically one shot
Damn I defeated Fume Knight first try and never fight him again, thats why I feel Sir Alonne and Burnt Ivory King are way harder for ds2 spot but maybe was pure luck!
I’m pretty much in agreement with your top 3 except I would put Rune Bear ahead of all of them.
Rune Bear is simple. Just stay under them and use the Square Up ash to stagger them in two hits over and over again.
Name of music during friede’s part?
Obviously Malenia is the hardest now but Orphan felt like the hardest boss possible without being unfair.
Malenia has so much bs to her that you are just glad its over when you are done
Isshin harder
@@arcashark389 not if sekiro clicked for you by then
I kill Orphan on my 5th try. And midir took me nearly one hour and around 15try but malenia was a joke for me. In any video game i stuck With somethings more than 1.5 hour. She beat me for 3.5 hours straight and once i kill her i feel incredible. Now ı can kill her no hit but my first try without summon was a horrible experience.
How many times have I seen these exact same ranking video all over CZcams?
Only the freezing pots stop her water fowl dance
this is my list.
1. Demon of Hatred
2. Maliketh
3. Slave Knight Gael/Pontiff
4. Maneater
5. Sir Alonne
6. Artorias
the reason I put Maneater at 4 because those are the only boss from the previous game that caused me a lot of trouble. they are even harder than Friede lol. also, no Bloodborne, I haven't touched the game yet.
Full ranking: DeS: False King Allant. Not super difficult, but has a lot of attacks. Way harder on NG+
DS: Manus, Father of the Abyss. Took me the most tries. Very close second was Black Dragon Kalameet.
DS2: Fume Knight. Totally awesome fight, made difficult by how slow his attacks are. I always rolled too early. Sir Alonne close runner up, but pretty simple attacks.
Bloodborne: Ludwig, The Accursed. Completely insane and disgusting fight. I die way more on him in replays than any other boss. Hard to read, fast, does a ton of damage, smelly.
DS3: Dark Eater Midir. Took me fewer tries than Gael on my first playthrough, but takes way more on subsequent ones.
Sekiro: Isshin, The Sword Saint. Best boss ever in a video game, but one of the most difficult.
Elden Ring: Malenia, Blade of Miquella. I did my 9th or 10th playthrough last month and still had so much trouble with her I gave in and summoned for phase 2. Hardest boss ever.
Going absolutely insane hearing you say that you struggled on Chained Ogre more than any DeS/DS1 fight only to say 15 seconds later that you beat Owl Father first try.
When I first played sekiro, chained ogre literally killed me like 20 times. I could not escape the grab no matter what I did. And still to this day, I honestly don’t even know how to reasonably avoid it lmao, but I am much better at working around it now so it’s not an issue. I killed isshin like 6 tries maybe and owl father like 3 or 4. So it’s the same for me, chained ogre killed me the most times of any boss in sekiro
Weirdly I never struggle with malenia but maliketh demolishes me for at least 5 attempts on every run I do. I would say Orphan is the hardest fight in the series, but because I've played bloodborne so many times at this point I know his moveset inside out
It’s the opposite for me, I almost always beat maliketh first try but Godfrey still gives me trouble to this day due to his weird as hell timings and crazy combos he can pull out of his ass. But malenia is still the hardest by far
Dark souls 1 Black dragon Kalameet
Dark souls 3 Sister Friede
Bloodborne Lawrence
Sekiro Isshin the Sword Saint
Elden Ring Elden Beast
Haven't Played DS2 or Demon Souls yet
For me the demon princess in ds3 are crazy hard
Way harder than other dlc bosses
Ironically, I beat Sword Saint Issin on my 1st try, and struggled most with Owl Father
And yeah, Demon of Hatred was a great pain in my ass, making me switch from deflecting gameplay I just got used to to something different and new for me (since Sekiro was my first Souls game)
Hardest boss from each game (I have not played Demon’s Souls)
DS1: Manus
DS2: Fume Knight
DS3: Darkeater Midir
Bloodborne: Orphan of Kos
Sekiro: Demon of Hatred
Elden Ring: Maliketh
I know everyone has their own skills , but he mentioned hardest bosses that maybe harder to popularity but not to me so I made a list
Demon Souls: Flamelurker
Dark Souls: Bed of Chaos (this is the most stupid boss)
Dark Souls 2: Darklurker , because if you die , you have to come again by defeating all enemies
Dark Souls 3: Midir is harder than friede , at least friede gets damage , midir doesn't even gets much damage
Elden Ring: Mohg
Bloodborne: Orphan of Kos
Sekiro: Owl (Father)
For me the list would be:
7. Flamelurker
6. Manus
5. Friede
4. Orphan of kos
3. Fume knight
2. Isshin, the sword saint
1. Malenia, blade of Miquella
7. Flamelurker
6. Kalameet (on my first run Artorias because i didn't know you could cancel the buff)
5. Sir Alonne
4. Friede
3. Orphan of Kos
2. Demon of Hatred
1. I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella
You cannot cancel the buff
I beat orphan of kos first try but died to ludwig dozens of times
Friede made me rage quit ds3 on ps4. Now I'm waiting to get a pc so I can practice her third phase by itself with mods because that is what I struggled with the most
1. Isshin
2. Malenia
3. Manus
4. Orphan
5. Sister Friede
6. Ruin Sentinels
7. Havent played DeS yet sorry =(
But let me explain:
1. I am currently still trying to finish Sekiro, but since one month I am stuck at Isshin I just cant beat that guy ;__;
2. Obviously. But she ONLY took me 186 tries on my first playthrough and I had to summon and to use bleed. The first time I actually fought her fair was in a enemy randomizer where she replaced Godskin Noble in Vulcano Manor lmao
3. The only boss I didnt managed to get done in my first DS1 playthrough. Kalameet, Gwyn, Seath and so on took me a lot of time all together, but I just couldnt beat Manus. It was impossible for me back then. Ds1 was btw my first Soulsborne game I have played so the knowledge and skill wasnt there.
4. Oh ducking hell, how much pain and brain I lost during that fight. I literally had no clue what was happening half of the time and just hoped to survive XD
5. Sister Friede almost made me rage quit on my first playthrough, so I had to summon Gael until she was dead. Every run afterwards she probably became the easiest boss for me in DS3
6. Yes. The Ruin Sentinels. I looked back and realized that most bosses where I was stuck for a long time wasnt because of the bosses themself, but because of the stupid runbacks. But for Ruin Sentinels I can clearly say that they took me the longest and hardest time in the boss arena. Even Fume Knight and Sir Alonne were a walk in a park in comparison! xD
Hoep y'all have a nice day ~
The difficulty in From Software really comes from the range of possibilities and what you decide to learn. In Sekiro the first hours are rough because there is one way to play. But after learning the gameplay with Genichiro and later on Shinobi Owl, I died a maximum of 4 times (Isshin sword saint) to late game bosses (Genichiro killed me the most with 8 tries), despite the patterns being complex.
But Elden Ring being the game with the most variety, the bosses are adapted to multiple playstyles, which led me to not understand I needed to play agressively, dodge into attacks, and being absolutely slaughtered by Hoarah Loux, Radahn, Malenia, Deathrite bird, Morgott, Maliketh, Mohg (playing a melee build only). Judging by the patterns, AI, agressiveness, Elden Ring has the most difficult bosses of every From Software games.
For me it was the other way arround, maybe because I played Sekiro with demon bell from the beggining, but I still find it harder because you has to know when to deflect/jump/dash out/mikiri and attack meanwhile ER (like most SL) you just need to time roll and attack (unless you play with shield builds). Malenia took me 2-3 hrs (I was lvl 120 double Uchikatana no summons no bleed build for a challange) meanwhile Isshin 4-5 hrs (I reckon that I removed demon bell debuff after 2-3 hours to see how the fight was normally and I beat him first try that way, but didn't deathblow him because I wanted to beat him with demon bell on for the challenge after beating everything else with it).
I have played ER more but I still kinda prefer Sekiro a little more because like you mentioned at ER you have to play deppending the boss, mostly the slow game (you can play very aggresive vs very few like Radagon and if you have the stamina), meanwhile at Sekiro you can play the slow game or full agressive vs any boss.
I was hopping they adding something similar to the deflection system at ER (aside parry) for a more agressive aproach sometimes, hate how guarding with weapons/shields works (not worthy in my opinion if you loose hp and stamina at the same time, buckler parry run is fun thou).
Also I find Malena doesn't has rng bullshit like Isshin backjump spear sttack after 2nd phase. After you learn Malenia moveset there are no surprises, there is always an answer for everything, even for water flow if you were at close range, but for Isshin it is always that attack that makes it unpredictable). And of course the Shura route one is a pain in the ass too (add inner versions plus demon bell + charmless both Saint and Old versions are pain)
@@RichardAce218 inner father mist raven attack is so rng, he may not use it sometimes but sometimes he will use it but deflecting might be a little too late by then and you'll lose a huge chunk of your health
@@CITYZEN50 true that, forgot about him, those attacks that instacounter ours at randomly is what make them "harder" in my opinion. Maybe some ER bosses do that too, but at least Malenia doesn't has those kind of random instacounters after you learned her openings to know when is safe to attack her, if she would have that she would be the hardest boss for sure with her lifesteal.
Wrong. Bloodborne has the toughest bosses & every boss in every Soulsborne game you need to fight aggressively & dodge into the attack. Bloodborne being the only exception not to dodge into.
I found Artorias harder than Manus. Artorias forced me to switch from medium to a light equip load, which turned out to be the secret to beating the whole dlc.
For orphan of Kos, i had suuuuuch a hard time. I was doing with my friend who was using the bow who couldnt and a hit and like refused to go in for any melee attacks... so it was like i was fighting a tankier Kos by myself for no reason. Needless to say that once i dropped my friend. i eventually beat him (after like 30 more deaths cough cough)
Lawrence gives me way more trouble than Orphan of Kos. If Orphan couldn't be parried, he would be much more difficult for sure, but that parry is a game changer.
I think Orphan without parrying or viscerals would be right up there with Malenia in terms of difficulty
@@SUPRESSOR106I never parry him and I still find Malenia significantly more difficult.
@@QDY358-nn1qj to be honest I hadn’t played Elden ring when I posted that. I have now, 5 playthroughs and Malenia is way harder.
@@SUPRESSOR106 Yea she’s the hardest boss I’ve ever faced in a game. Obviously I haven’t played every game out there, but I don’t know if anything will ever reach her difficulty. She’s the only boss that genuinely felt unbeatable for a very long time.
Is elden ring with spirit ashes easier than other fromsoftware games (like dark souls 3)?
Yes, It’s either the hardest or easiest game in the series depending on how you play it.
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My ranking:
7) False King Allant (1st try)
6) Manus, Father of the Abyss (2nd try)
5) Sir Alonne (5th try)
4) Orphan of Cos (12th try)
3) Demon Princes (28th try lol)
2) Demon of Hatred (30th try)
1) Malenia (42nd try)
My list is
1.Malenia
2.Orphan of Kos
3.Sister Friede
4.Fume Knight
5.Owl Father
6.Knight Artorias
Like you, Malenia is also the hardest boss I’ve ever faced in any game.
My order is
6: Manus
5: Fume Knight
4: Flamelurker
3: Laurence the First Vicar
2: Pontiff Sulyvahn
1: Malenia
For elden ring i think either malenia or radagon and elden beast. You can jump over 1st stage of waterfowl so it's not THAT hard but radagon has it all teleports that mean your punishes can't be as beefy delays and incredibly quick attacks , projectiles that are just crazy and fugging stunlocks which is the only reason i don't love this fight oh and also a giant space dildo that plays a shooter while you are holding a big bonking stick.
You can consistently dodge Waterfowl, from up close, if you run away immediately and sprint jump at just the right time. The timing on the jump is tight, but consistently doable.
If you spin around her and roll backwards as soon as she starts moving towards to you you can dodge it too. But it requiers a lot of practice for its timing and very Hard to do it.
@@YellowZ04 Yeh I know about that one. I don't think that is the intended method though. It just got popularized on release because no one considered the jump method.
The circle sprint is janky at best.
@@shinyhydreigon7257 I tried jump method but i couldn't do it maybe i cant do the timing. Not being consistently i can do the spin dodge. Even though ı got hit ı can survive with a few hp with spin dodge.
@@shinyhydreigon7257 There's another one which requires just running to the left and rolling digonally left, when she releases. (or to the right)
I find, it does not feel very janky and I wonder, if it's the intended method.
gotta say, as my first souls game I found isshin the sword saint to be surprisingly not that hard, taking an hour being my favorite boss (I two tried it next time I tried it)
I also first tried the entirety of the inner genichiro gauntlet somehow even though it took me longer to fight inner genichiro alone, still took the least attempts out of me
demon of hatred took me three hours (first souls game effect)
I hate him
I completely agree with whoever told you Sigrun is harder than Malenia. She's at her peak on GMGOW difficulty on a fresh NG cycle. By the time you see her in NG+ you have all the best equipment in the game and I think she's easier than Malenia at that point. They're super different fights though. Sigrun has a hard counter for pretty much everything she does. The tricky part is remembering how to counter each move and performing it fast enough to catch her. Sigrun's moveset is probably 3x the size of Malenias, and she will two-shot a max character most of the time depending on which moves catch you. So you can make two mistakes, and the fight is way longer because her health bar is absolutely massive.
It honestly really comes down to learning the patterns . Malenia's biggest difficulty comes from waterfowl dance , Sigrun has a lot of moves and is tough until you learn how to fight her .
Sigrun even on ng on gmgow can be cheesed too if you choose to do so , kvasir talisman is op , maxed out blades are very strong as well especially the delayed attack that 3 hits her and does an elemental explosion on her . Both bosses are only difficult until you properly learn them , when you do they become honestly kind of easy .
On my first playthrough on Malenia it took me roughly 50 attempts without summons and without ashes of war . I played her like a ds3 boss to make it challenging but the more I fought her the more openings and weaknesses I saw in her moveset . Sigrun on gmgow took me like 80 attempts and was harder the first time but now its hard to say both are kind of easy to be honest . I even beat both at lvl 1 hitless , but at lvl 1 Malenia is much harder . Malenia also got an indirect nerf in patch 1.06 , before you couldn't run away from her at point blank with running or dodging backwards , you had to try running around her and then trying to dodge the rest of the attack , now since patch 1.06 light rolling added 10% more distance on light rolling so with 3 light rolls you can roll back even at point blank and her first flurry of waterfowl will not reach you .
Sigrun on the other hand is more really learning all her moves on ng and ng+ , once you do , you can toy with her .
It really depends how you define difficulty also , do you count your first playthrough , your second , new game or new game + or ng + max scaling , do you use some restrictions and so on and so fort . This is the problem with this video and this question about difficulty in general , a lot of bosses that seemed super difficult become either mildly challenging after you learn them and beat them multiple times or even a joke . So it really needs to be defined if it's your first experience or if you mastered the game and beat these bosses dozens of times .
@Saula That could really be said for any boss in any game. They're difficult until they're not. You make a good point. Assessing difficulty between two different bosses in two different games is the furthest thing from simple. I suppose I was leaning toward my first victory experiences, or whatever factors combine to give me my general impression of difficulty. I don't really know exactly what those would be. I do agree, however, that Sigrun is easier to me now after fighting them both a ton. Really, it's just based on my personal experience. Which includes more variables than I could possibly list. I think GMGOW on ng GOW is generally an overall much harder difficulty than ER presents. Healing stones dont do much, so you usually just get basically one health bar for a boss encounter. ER has tons of flasks, but it's easier to get hit imo. Er also has summons, and it's easier to overlevel. It's about to break my brain thinking of all the variables i could include. I could go on all day. All I know is when the question pops up, Sigrun is the answer that pops into my head.
melenia is the obvious answer for the hardest boss in elden ring, but other than her waterfowl dance, she's very average. a 100 physical shield trivializes that ability, having freeze pots trivializes that ability, bloodhound step trivializes that ability. maliketh, godfrey, and radagon/elden beat are all more challenging overall.
As for sekiro, demon of hatred is the hardest, not because of its mechanics or damage, but for the simple fact that deflects are practically useless against him, he requires the use of the lotus umbrella and dodges in a way not present in any boss before him. It's effectively learning a new game just to beat him. sword saint is ruined by his phase 3, returning lightning is braindead easy and deals a shitload of damage to him, his phase 1 is pretty manageable as he doesn't have many combos and is passive.
I was underleveled during my first sekiro play through and for that reason I think the demon is harder than isshin
Where is soldier of godrick?
Malenia is thankfully much easier now compared to when the game was launched.
She was much more aggressive in the 1st phase and could execute WFD very often.
However, now there's a limit to it in the 1st phase and she executes it after some of her health is gone. So, it is possible to bait the attack out.
Overall, this is the only boss in the game that I can't beat reliably everytime. Most other bosses are more or less doable reliably everytime once you master the game but Malenia's one gimmick attack is still a pain in the butt and to this day, I can't dodge the attack up close unless I bait her from a distance.
That's actually not true it least not anymore , since patch 1.06 she got indirectly nerfed . Light rolling got buffed in that patch , the distance of the light roll is increased by 10 % which might not seem like much but it it's huge , if you are point black when she is about to do waterfowl just roll back 3 times and you will not get hit by the first flurry at all and the rest of the waterfowl I assume you know how to do . But even if you couldn't dodge the attack at point blank which now you can reliably too , you could always use a shield to block the first flurry , she gets a little bit of life back but no big deal , you can also throw freezing pots at her which will cancel her waterfowl up to like 2 times in the fight . If waterfowl is the biggest problem then using a weapon with long range will make waterfowl much less of an issue also . After beating Malenia like 50 times so far she is kind of a joke to be honest .
This isn't true.
Even while I summoned for Malenia it only made her more impossible with that double healthbar, plus the game was still very fresh and nobody knew a strategy to defeat her so all my companions were winging it with me. 😅.
I get myself summoned for Malenia sometimes and I got to say, the hardest job of a summon in that fight is to keep the host in a baby stroller protected at all times, because most people still have not learned her.
And if Malenias attention shifts to the host for one second, she will immediately murder him.
Hardest boss in dark souls 3 for me was the dancer and the hardest in Elden ring was maliketh (I don’t remember how to spell his name) but the rest I agree woth
In my opinion, fire 🔥 beast bosses in Sekiro and Bloodborne were much harder than the human sized tough finale bosses, since you can parry and run more.
Hatred and Laurence cannot be parried or staggered easily.
but I think more people find ishin / owl father harder than demon. And isn't orphan also human sized?
I never attempted Orphan of Kos but yes, Human sized and parryable@@doge_69
How is False King Allan here? The knight outside the boss room are more challenging then him.... I think I even first tried him, but Flame Lurker wrecked me...
I fought ornstein and smough for 157 hours it will forever be the hardest souls Bourne boss without any doubt in my opinion
Did you summon solaire?
Jesus Christ
If you have enough perseverance you can overcome most every boss. Congrats.
@@gabrielcristian8038 I accidentally aggroed and fell of a cliff chasing me so I could get weirdo in clock tower
@@increase9896 you don't understand I beat bloodborne faster than it took to beat that boss
I like difficult bosses and i like endurance fights. But Malenia is a bit to far i think. It's not even waterfowl dance or the scarlet rot, but her healing is the most annoying boss mechanic ever. Her moveset alone is punishing enough, but everytime she hits you she restores a huge chunk of her healthbar while shredding yours. Every other hard fromsoft boss i would describe as "difficult but fair", Malenia feels unfair.
7.Dragon God
6.Bed of Chaos
5.Demon Prince
4.Sir Alonne
3.Demon of Hatred
2.Maliketh
1.Orphan
0.Inner Isshin
Even he isn't hardest boss I've ever faced, I think Gna(ON AVERAGE!!!) and Phrike from Returnal were harder to me
And ryuzo second fight from GoT (ALSO ON AVERAGE!)
I didnt have that much problems with malenia. I had her at the same amount of attempts as i had fire giant and astel
Yeah isshin makes Malenia look like a baby
for me its
7. havent played demons souls
6. manus
5. fume knight
4. orphan of kos
3. demon of hatred
2. sister friede
1. malenia
Ludwig the holy blade the best boss ever
IMO Ludwig is the hardest Bloodborne boss. He's just so erratic and hard to read. Orphan is super fast, but very parry-able and stagger-able.
i think artorias is a lot harder than manus, im so afraid to fight him, this is why i almost never go into the dlc, the only reason to go there is to get dark magic spell and a few items
It's only hard if you don't break his poise when he charges his weapon.
I know it isn’t a fair comparison because of how much I’ve played elden ring, but I can beat Malenia so easily because of the sheer amount of times I’ve fought her But, no matter how many times I fight them, the Gargs are still awful
I traded with kos. And it didn't count. Never fought him since.
This is so sad…
Souls-Borne games "music" is a huge factor to facilitate terror/fear on players....try killing bosses without sound/music/sfx....you can think better! They are easier to kill, IMO.
1.Demon of hatered
2.Radahn
3.Gael
4.Manus
Didnt play the other games...
In my opinion Orphan is overrated. He killed me only once. I really find Laurence harder. Phase 2 tactic are simle. If he jumps to sky, wait 3 seconds and dodge. This could count for majority of his attacks in Phase 2.
no demons souls bloodbourne and sekiro so:
4. manus
3. fume knight
2. friede
1. malenia the god of rot
We're lucky that Malenia is weak to elements and can be easily stunned...otherwise it would have been a tragedy