@@harvesterofsubs5561presumably Marika returned here after some sort of conquest. Maybe she became a god, or slaughtered the hornsent. But it seems that by the time she returned, there was no one left in her village. So she planted that minor edtree there, as a remembrance for her home, to show them how far she had come.
@@harvesterofsubs5561 prob due to some beaf with the hornsent, regilious stuff you know? "That village, they are doing all kinds of weird and irritate stuffs, must be full of witches, we should kill em all"
don't sully the memories of queen marika by uttering the despicable words of a grafter. Marika would have been disgusted by godrick's practice for lore reasons.
Godrick is a distant family member of Marika. So, it is a possible Godrick survived from massacre. This information shows he can be a shaman. @@VictorIV0310
After I beat the final boss of the DLC, I returned here and sat in the meadow, listening to the wind. Somehow it seemed like an appropriate way to end the journey.
@@Ottiro why disappointing bro, they literally explained everything and give us a lot of lore. For me personally, I can understand now, why this story actually happened and I’m glad to know it.
When I stumbled into this village, it all clicked. If you’re deep into the Lore, this is when I completely understood Marika’s arc. Why she wanted to become a God in the first place. Why she seemed to despise any and all aspects of the crucible as well as Omens and misbegotten. Why she shattered the Elden Ring after losing Godwyn, her perfect child, after all the rest of her children were/are afflicted by some curse or permanent debuff by an Outer God. She isn’t perfect by any means but holy fuck brother, she been through some shit.
@@loxx2536 it literally says “in her grief, she (Marika) shattered the Elden Ring”. All the other context clues via lore bits on items, weapons, armor, talismans and remembrances lead us to that conclusion even if they didn’t explicitly state it in the trailer. (Which they did)
@@namelessiam7792 there is this old lady-bat thing you can find on your way through the secret tunnel that leads to the Altus Plateau if you don’t use the Dectus Medallion. She’s singing some ancient latin song or something that actually sounds rather peaceful, some guy translated the song and the most memorable line was “Golden one, at whom were you anrgy?” Somewhere around the end of the song.
@@k_Shadi18 ohhhh it's the latin translation from the lady bats, gotcha thank you. Now that I think about it, there's some pondering to do about the lady bats with the dlc out. Is it a fly disease type of situation for example?
Repost of my comment on another video. When I found this place and heard the music, I felt calm for the first time in my entire playthrough. I looked around a bit, and though I didn't find anything at first, I remember saying "It's nice to know that despite the vile, filthy, terrible horrors of this world, a place like this can still exist within it" And then I found the tree, found what was inside, and read its description... You wanna talk about emotion. The sheer weight of where I was hit me like a cinderblock. I remember staring at the effigy within the tree, the facsimile of Marika and asking "what happened to you?" In reference to her going from a village girl to a tyrant, Before leaving. Then I learned why the innard people of the Jars have gold hair and a mark on their head, and I just remember feeling so bad for Marika in that moment. I'm going to list the item description of the Minor Erdtree incantation here: "Secret incantation of Queen Marika. Only the kindness of gold, without order. Creates a small, illusory erdtree that continuously restores the HP of nearby allies. Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well that there was no one to heal" Marika started life in this village, or at least her life in the lands between. She lived amongst these villagers, got to know them, they were family. And the Bonny village began to take them, butcher them, and cram them into pots in some twisted ritual of sainthood. And for a long time, she was powerless against this fact. Of course the moment she was made a god she would use that power to wage war, to destroy the fire giants, to create and cause the horrible things we see in the Lands of Shadow. Her home was taken from her. She truly is Fractured Marika. Not just in name or because of the state she's in, but because a piece of her is permanently missing, and she's left as empty and quiet as the village we find. When I went there for the second time, after beating all bosses, and seeing all lands in the land of shadow, I finally found the minor erdtree incantation. I summoned on the edge of the cliff and just sat there for a while until it faded, then sat with the effigy for a while, before leaving. Because it's all so tragic. I still think that Marika is evil, and I cant excuse what she's done, but I do feel sorry for her.
When I first arrived in the village I couldn't help but feel emotional. The moment I saw that tree I knew exactly what I had stumbled upon. This was the home of Marika, not of Marika the god, or Marika the tyrant, but a Marika we never knew, a Marika from a quiet little village, who lived a quiet, uneventful life, until one day, her entire life would be uprooted forever.
The way she achieved divinity too is equally traumatic and horrifying. I don't think it's a coincidence that a gigantic fingerprint is right by the shaman village. In the depths of her despair, something beyond human comprehension made landfall, and contacted her. She couldn't have become a god all by herself, the fingers saw to it instead. Acting on the guidance of these monsters from another star, she did anything it took to get her vengeance.
One detail people forget is the fact in one of the last transcriptions of marika’s words via melina, marika goes: radagon lil hound of the golden order let us be shattered myn other self essentially telling him he knew jack shit about the truth so he will never be her, I feel marika regretted in the end all that had happened and wanted to end it all after all she discovered it was all a lie what other motive would she have to keep no? being a god of a false order where she got manipulated by a monster and probably came to the realization that she regretted this all after all it’s probable she thought that after she had achieve her goal it would go all well but than all that happened happened understanding the truth she broke the golden order, the irony being marika and miquella are similar but reversed, her other side radagon do to rappresenting regression wanted stuff to go back to how stuff was for the golden order as such, marika tried to eliminate herself and radagon and the Elden ring to end it all. Meanwhile Miquella instead of doubting his path doubled down and even removing his other half saint Trina which was his love and the ability to doubt himself. In the end it’s all a tragedy with no victors
It’s so damn subtle and breadcrumb driven but this explains everything about marika if you combine it with what you see in Bonny Village and the Gaols. It’s revenge in its purest form, and then plucking death from the elden ring so no one ever dies again. She won’t allow it.
This was one of the most emotional places I've ever seen in a souls game and it's insane how it took so little to evoke such a strong reaction out of me. The moment I read the miracle description, my eyes watered. No dialogue, no NPC, no boss fight. It's environmental storytelling at it's very best.
"One day we'll return together. To our home, bathed in rays of gold. There is only one tree, and only it's branches. That bathe in true rays of gold. Not the fool Omen King. Not the rank malformed twins. O' we are the Golden Ones. The true and rightful heirs. Our land's grown old, now ashen and cold. But look up, the Erdtree glows! One day, we will return together. To our home, bathed in rays of gold. And grace will surely guide us safe. To our home, bathed in rays of gold."
My theory is that Marika’s ambition came from the fact she lived in a world of loss and death, and once her mother (the grandmother) died, she wished to create a world without suffering and loss.
my theory is that she also beared hatred for the hornsent for what they did to her kind,waged war against them and became god by taking over the belurat tower thanks to his son messmer. She became a god with the assistance of metyr and GW,and once thiss happened,she went on to conquer the rest of the lands between,creating atrocities and death everywhere for the sake of a greater good. However,the GW stop communicating with metyr,and the two fingers who received instruction from metyr,had no idea what to do,and improvised everything. Marika saw through the two fingers BS and breaksdown when she realizes that her order was based on a lie,that her crimes and genocides for a better world were a lie told by the two fingers. And,when her son godwyn dies,she gives up all hopes and shatter the elden ring to end once and for all her duty as a goddess,and to ammend for her sin,waiting for a new lord to come
@scarlletnull2811 Well yea Thats the point. She perpetuated the cycle of violence, causing more suffering under the Golden Order despite her wishes to spread prosperity and peace under its rule. This is less confirmed, but upon Godwyns death I think she realised that nothing had changed despite all her efforts and horrific actions. And so she tried to shatter the elden ring as a way to rid the world of her Order, but it didn't fully work.
@@scarlletnull2811 "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster". I think that quote sums her up perfectly. She wanted revenge but in doing so became just as bad as those who she sought vengeance against.
Another interpretation for her removal of the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring that I saw is that she did it so that nobody in the Land of Shadow will be able to die. That way, the Hornsent will suffer for eternity in a neverending hell under Messmer’s rule where they are hunted, brutalized, scorched and impaled by the crusaders.
i just noticed that the main elden ring theme is a mix of Radagon and Marika with the soft strings being Marika and the bombastic Orchestra and thumps being Radagons
The hornsent slaughtered Markia’s village for some vain act of achieving sainthood. So she goes down the path of attaining godhood, like Miquella, with the help of the Fingers. She travels off to the Lands Between to establish her Golden Order, and then returns with her son to wage war against the Hornsent and achieves her revenge. No wonder she locks Morgott and Mogh away, and shuns all omens. They are reminders of an evil people to her, and of the death of her people… I can’t imagine what she must have thought when she gave birth to the twins
The moment I heard this motif I knew something was up. I didn't realise until I read the lock of hair description; this is Marika's motif. This is Marika's home.
To think that THE Marika… Goddess of the Lands Between… Vessel to the Greater Will… The literal maker of the Golden Order… Came from such a small and… Dare I say insignificant place. And when you piece it all together… You realize that at the end of the day. Marika was just a traumatized country girl who wanted to be happy and avoid what she went through ever again… But, we all know how that went… And while knowing all of this doesn’t excuse her sins, you’d be lying if you said it didn’t make you understand her better…
Poor Marika. Even though she is a God, she came from a small village. And she witnessed hornsents murder her people. Hornsents killed shamas either of a slander or they were seeing themselves as divine beings, just because of pure egoism. So, Marika wanted revenge. Maybe because of this feelings, Greater Will sent Meytr and Elden Beast to the Lands of Between. She became a God. Ordered his son to crusade hornsents, then came to her village for the last time and beautified her village with minor erdtree. Left her braid to her grandmother's statue. Probably we never know what was her confession. Maybe the confession was she is also Radagon? But doesn't matter. She left her home in her behind as a beautiful momento. But irony of fate, she gave birth to 2 omen demi-gods. "The face of the Numen, supposed descendants of denizens of another world. Long-lived but seldom born."
@@vitaliyred622 The sacrifice for the Greater Will doesn't make sense in a way. Because in a sense, she shouldn't had power for this big sacrifiacation, she borned in a small village afterall. She wasn't powerful in that time. If she had so much power for crusade in a first place, she could save her village. Frenzied Flame also doesn't need any sacrifices for its influence, just need strong emotions. In this case Marika probably called the Greater Will through her emotions when she witnessed the massacre. Then with Greater Will's help she killed hornsents and made divinity gate. After her godhood she started to crusade and tasked Messmer for this.
Poor Marika? lol The Hornsents were monsters but that doesn't excuse what her and her Golden Order. From what we know, the Golden Order committed even worse acts than the Hornsents. Also, this might be the origin of the omens. It's Marika's crimes cursing people and coming back to haunt her.
I feel like Marika whispered to the tree "Forgive, grandmother, not for what I have done. But for what I am about to do." Similar to what Ragnar says in Vikings.
When i stumbled on here I legit got goosebumps all over... The motif reminds me of a kind of fleeting moment, like coming to the sad realization that you've experienced something once and even if you do experience it again the feeling of it will never be the same as that first time. Like some long lost love that you can only feel a small glimpse of via your ever shrinking memories.
When I arrived I was afraid this beautiful moment would be ruined by some enemy. Then I realised its not. I was like "thanks for letting me have this fromsoft."
Classic PEAK Fromsoft. Even if the masterful bosses are what we will all remember, like Bayle for me in ER DLC. It’s also the “less pointed” happenings which stick with us. Here, we enter Marika’s home. Get a peek at her life and get to theorize motivations. Moments like this happen with Midir’s arena for example. The beginning of the Souls series! Or the Dragon cult area of DS1, after playing a silent game for hours you enter a secret with an area soundtrack! Sekiro and how the Ashoka castle area is the first area that is changing with the story and Leyndel retook that concept. Or the Demon Ruins optional area in DS3 letting us understand how they created a society. And many other examples. Letting areas talk is so *COOL!*
As the game didn't have an ending cutscene, i just decided to come here and sit listening to the music, what a journey this game was, always in my heart
When I first discovered Shaman Village and found minor Erdtree, I was optimistic, I read "Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well there was no one to heal" as that nobody was in need of healing. But now that I know what happened to Shaman Village, it's sad. Very, very sad.
My favorite moment in the DLC. The first main complaint I had for Elden Ring is the lack of "moments of silence" like this one, which I get it's weird but wish there were more chill moments. Who played knows what I'm talking but, something like THAT Shadow of the Colossus vibe is what ER could totally have more and nailed it, and this Shaman Village kinda encapsulates what I wanted. I was talking to a friend how I wish there was an emptied big open field section with a big castle where there is NOTHING, just lore at least. Could be seen as a dumb waste, I get it the main loop gameplay is combat + exploration. We have to explore because combat, and there is combat because we explore. But I really wish they took more risks for moments like this.
This place was an experience I’ll never forget. I spent a good hour here just walking around on Torrent and siting back in my chair just taking in the sights
best lore moment in fromsoft history by far...better than plin plin plon... better than gherman...just wow fromsoft...just wow. elden ring is there magnum opus and it shows.
This is the fu...ing Best place i only can imagine for finishing that great adventure. Feeling when you win the battle with all gods and other great creature's of this world, come here and sit near the fire or little gold tree with that music is the best you only can feel. Thanks Hidetaka and FromSoftware for that 2,5 years greatest adwenture, i will never forget this, and hope to see your nex masterpiece project.
I came here the first time, partially spoiled thanks to the internet yet regardless, I still was broken by it especially the moment I heard the music choice, being that of the very first strum you hear whenever you turn on the game. Like...this is where it all started, Marika was just a simple village girl who heal and help those in need yet due to the Hornsent's atrocities, she wanted all to suffer the way she did. And if we go down the theory lane where Messmer (who is possibly Marika's firstborn) was cursed by the Fell God to carry the flames and red hair, it just furthers her hatred to all who keep hurting her family to the point it ripped away her humanity. And the shattering was the result of her fed up with her divinity cause if she can't even protect her family; if she can't even have humanity anymore where she would have reconsider to not make everyone within her family and the lands between/shadows suffer, then she will end it all herself. She imprison herself purposely to cease her from hurting anyone further and whatever the Tarnish will do at this point is what it is. It's also worth noting too how this village was built nearby Messmer's keep which also says a lot on his character where he was familiar with Marika before godhood stripped away his mother's humanity as a whole. The tragedy of Marika doesn't excuse her actions alongside the rest of her family's atrocities (and I mean all of them), but it makes it all the more understanding the moment we step into the village and have an idea on what her true vision was but sadly would never be cause divinity comes with a cost. It shows the true horror of reaching godhood can fuck with anyone including us.
It's crazy to think that Radahn is the only demi-god that seems to be the only good person within the entire family (maybe Morgott) considered as the strongest among them all at the end he was used as a toy by the empyrean everyone loved
i got there. heard the chords from the main theme, but there's... calmness? no aggression in music. few chords that explain a lot about emotions. picked up the item, minor erdtree and only then i felt the biggest smile on my face in days i sat down. i put my character down sitting right next to the minor erdtree. it was peaceful. the wind felt... real and calming, just how marika wanted her life to be. away from all chaos, destruction, and imperfections of the world, we found peace. it is where marika grew up. where she started was where we ended,
Marika avenged her Village already and ironically did even worse in the Future Then the people who slaughtered her Village. you either die a hero or live long enough to become a Villain
She would go on to inflict endless suffering upon countless innocent lives,but in this village,she was not the cruel queen Marika,she was just Marika,and today she went to visit her grandmother...
I believe Marika is the one who killed or sacrificed the people in her village because of the fact that there are two items in the area that highlight the same thing namely the people's disappear
When I played the base game, I always thought Marika was cold and heartless. She cast her own sons into the sewers, banished the nomads even further underground, and shattered her own order. It was hard to sympathize with a god that seemingly abused her power. Playing the DLC... I now have a much different perspective on her. She was terrified of the sons who were living reminders of the hornsent, she was terrified of the possibility that the frenzied flame could haunt her new life too, and she saw the flaw in the order she was god of the night her favored son died. Despite having godhood, Marika is still just a human.
She’s more like Ymir Fritz after her village was raided, sacked and its people meeting a grisly fate but instead of becoming a slave to a king after making contact with a mysterious, otherworldly power, she used that power to become a god, usurped that king’s place and become a vengeful, genocidal tyrant (though not without her reasons).
The thing is, I don't think she wanted to abandon her boys. The Regal Omen Bairn is a doll made of baby Morgott, presumably as a momento for Marika and Godfrey so they can have something to remember them by. The description states that it was made in secret. Why would a woman, a mother, abandon her children only to secretly make dolls of their likeness to hold and remember them by? It's because she was bound by Order and the Greater Will. It wasn't her choice to abandon her boys. As Trina said, "A caged divinity is worse than death." No wonder she shattered the ring.
Still tho that's kinda fucked up in the end of the day they were still her son's her blood and at that point she became a God but ironically she's still that scared little girl of the Village at least this part of the Dlc kinda humanizes her but it still dosen't justify what she does in the Future
This! THIS is where my Battlemage Lord character will retire once I 100% the PS5 version of the game. After the Hell the Souls series put me through, it’s about time my ass retired from this series; I’ve earned it.
I wouldn't mind a whole bigger part of the map being this aesthetic. I love the dark shadow realm theme, but the bliss of getting to this part of the game after the progress in the darker areas is great.
This was the best moment of the DLC for me. I am not a huge fan of how overdesigned the bosses are, but this little moment showed me that FROM still knows the value of simplicity. I'm so thankful they didn't decide to put a boss here, they just let it be a quiet moment you have to yourself.
No dummy. Her people were slaughtered by the hornsents. She obtained godhood to save anyone who remained and started a crusade against the hornsent to do so, but no one remained alive once she returned. This is why the minor erdtree is there, it was more of a rose on the coffin moment for her. She's not innocent or a good person by any means, but I do have to correct that statement you've made as it's simply not true as the hornsents aren't her people, the shamans were. Aka the enemies that are made up of flesh you find in goals that wear pots. They were being sacrificed for the hornsents saint hood, shoved into pots and melted together in those masses of flesh.
I think you got it mixed up, messmer was sent to wage war against the hornsent, because the hornsent and bonny village were kidnapping the people from her village and stuffing them into jars (killing them) for some twisted ritual regarding sainthood. The whole reason messmer was there was for revenge for what they did to his mother
no matter how exquisite no matter how tender , A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE ! eldren ring and all the souls born games(lore) are mere shit mixted together , and lore freaks take the bait every time .
The absolute irony of quoting a Souls character while trying to talk shit about people who actually pay attention and care about the characters and stories of these games is insane.
"Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well there was no one to heal"
Can someone explain the meaning of “there was no one to heal”? It’s an interesting line
They were slaughtered
@@harvesterofsubs5561presumably Marika returned here after some sort of conquest. Maybe she became a god, or slaughtered the hornsent. But it seems that by the time she returned, there was no one left in her village. So she planted that minor edtree there, as a remembrance for her home, to show them how far she had come.
@@Garl_Vinland why?
@@harvesterofsubs5561 prob due to some beaf with the hornsent, regilious stuff you know?
"That village, they are doing all kinds of weird and irritate stuffs, must be full of witches, we should kill em all"
"And one day, we'll return to our home, bathed in rays of gold."
don't sully the memories of queen marika by uttering the despicable words of a grafter.
Marika would have been disgusted by godrick's practice for lore reasons.
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413everyone would have been disgusted by Godrick's practice except Godefroy but we don't talk about that guy.
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413that one quote may be the only truth he ever spoke, it doesn't matter if it came from his grafted mouth
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413It’s equally possible that Godrick was quoting it from someone else who said it first.
Godrick is a distant family member of Marika. So, it is a possible Godrick survived from massacre. This information shows he can be a shaman. @@VictorIV0310
After I beat the final boss of the DLC, I returned here and sat in the meadow, listening to the wind.
Somehow it seemed like an appropriate way to end the journey.
that is exactly what i also did. in my head canon, the destined tarnished (our player character) sat at marikas village at the end of his journey.
I did this too!!!!
We can finally rest. This is the end.
So i wasnt the only one.. especially after the disappointing ending the dlc had
@@Ottiro why disappointing bro, they literally explained everything and give us a lot of lore. For me personally, I can understand now, why this story actually happened and I’m glad to know it.
When I stumbled into this village, it all clicked.
If you’re deep into the Lore, this is when I completely understood Marika’s arc.
Why she wanted to become a God in the first place. Why she seemed to despise any and all aspects of the crucible as well as Omens and misbegotten.
Why she shattered the Elden Ring after losing Godwyn, her perfect child, after all the rest of her children were/are afflicted by some curse or permanent debuff by an Outer God.
She isn’t perfect by any means but holy fuck brother, she been through some shit.
nothing in the game indicates she broke the ring because of Godwyn death
@@loxx2536 it does,it's stated in the trailer that she had a mental breakdown after godwyn died
@@loxx2536 it literally says “in her grief, she (Marika) shattered the Elden Ring”. All the other context clues via lore bits on items, weapons, armor, talismans and remembrances lead us to that conclusion even if they didn’t explicitly state it in the trailer. (Which they did)
so she wanted to become a god because the omens, hornsent and all those creatures were like threatening her species and stuff?.
@@Samples12 The hornsent would massacre and torture her people.
"Golden one, at whom were you angry?"
Oh shit this actually makes a lot of sense now
I command thee, kneel!
I am the lord of all that is golden!
Where is this from?
@@namelessiam7792 there is this old lady-bat thing you can find on your way through the secret tunnel that leads to the Altus Plateau if you don’t use the Dectus Medallion.
She’s singing some ancient latin song or something that actually sounds rather peaceful, some guy translated the song and the most memorable line was “Golden one, at whom were you anrgy?” Somewhere around the end of the song.
@@k_Shadi18 ohhhh it's the latin translation from the lady bats, gotcha thank you. Now that I think about it, there's some pondering to do about the lady bats with the dlc out. Is it a fly disease type of situation for example?
There's something about this place that's so nostalgic and sad. Like a home you can never return to. You can come back, but it's not home anymore.
There's a Welsh word that means exactly that: Hiraeth.
A beautiful word.
@@justaperson9155I was just about to comment this
"A caged divinity is worse than death" Saint Trina
No wonder they threw the omen in the sewers, they reminded her of the hornsent
Untouched by Messmer's flame, He truly loved his mother
Repost of my comment on another video.
When I found this place and heard the music, I felt calm for the first time in my entire playthrough. I looked around a bit, and though I didn't find anything at first, I remember saying "It's nice to know that despite the vile, filthy, terrible horrors of this world, a place like this can still exist within it"
And then I found the tree, found what was inside, and read its description...
You wanna talk about emotion. The sheer weight of where I was hit me like a cinderblock.
I remember staring at the effigy within the tree, the facsimile of Marika and asking "what happened to you?" In reference to her going from a village girl to a tyrant, Before leaving.
Then I learned why the innard people of the Jars have gold hair and a mark on their head, and I just remember feeling so bad for Marika in that moment.
I'm going to list the item description of the Minor Erdtree incantation here:
"Secret incantation of Queen Marika. Only the kindness of gold, without order. Creates a small, illusory erdtree that continuously restores the HP of nearby allies.
Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well that there was no one to heal"
Marika started life in this village, or at least her life in the lands between. She lived amongst these villagers, got to know them, they were family.
And the Bonny village began to take them, butcher them, and cram them into pots in some twisted ritual of sainthood.
And for a long time, she was powerless against this fact.
Of course the moment she was made a god she would use that power to wage war, to destroy the fire giants, to create and cause the horrible things we see in the Lands of Shadow.
Her home was taken from her. She truly is Fractured Marika. Not just in name or because of the state she's in, but because a piece of her is permanently missing, and she's left as empty and quiet as the village we find.
When I went there for the second time, after beating all bosses, and seeing all lands in the land of shadow, I finally found the minor erdtree incantation. I summoned on the edge of the cliff and just sat there for a while until it faded, then sat with the effigy for a while, before leaving.
Because it's all so tragic.
I still think that Marika is evil, and I cant excuse what she's done, but I do feel sorry for her.
DAMN MAN HIT HARD
When I first arrived in the village I couldn't help but feel emotional. The moment I saw that tree I knew exactly what I had stumbled upon.
This was the home of Marika, not of Marika the god, or Marika the tyrant, but a Marika we never knew, a Marika from a quiet little village, who lived a quiet, uneventful life, until one day, her entire life would be uprooted forever.
The way she achieved divinity too is equally traumatic and horrifying. I don't think it's a coincidence that a gigantic fingerprint is right by the shaman village. In the depths of her despair, something beyond human comprehension made landfall, and contacted her. She couldn't have become a god all by herself, the fingers saw to it instead. Acting on the guidance of these monsters from another star, she did anything it took to get her vengeance.
@@MrStrangeUsernameShe got her vengeance, they got their dominion over the land, and it cost her everything.
One detail people forget is the fact in one of the last transcriptions of marika’s words via melina, marika goes: radagon lil hound of the golden order let us be shattered myn other self essentially telling him he knew jack shit about the truth so he will never be her, I feel marika regretted in the end all that had happened and wanted to end it all after all she discovered it was all a lie what other motive would she have to keep no? being a god of a false order where she got manipulated by a monster and probably came to the realization that she regretted this all after all it’s probable she thought that after she had achieve her goal it would go all well but than all that happened happened understanding the truth she broke the golden order, the irony being marika and miquella are similar but reversed, her other side radagon do to rappresenting regression wanted stuff to go back to how stuff was for the golden order as such, marika tried to eliminate herself and radagon and the Elden ring to end it all. Meanwhile Miquella instead of doubting his path doubled down and even removing his other half saint Trina which was his love and the ability to doubt himself. In the end it’s all a tragedy with no victors
It’s so damn subtle and breadcrumb driven but this explains everything about marika if you combine it with what you see in Bonny Village and the Gaols.
It’s revenge in its purest form, and then plucking death from the elden ring so no one ever dies again. She won’t allow it.
And also ensuring that those she despises will not die but be damned to suffer for eternity without the release of death nor an afterlife.
This was one of the most emotional places I've ever seen in a souls game and it's insane how it took so little to evoke such a strong reaction out of me. The moment I read the miracle description, my eyes watered. No dialogue, no NPC, no boss fight. It's environmental storytelling at it's very best.
Now we know why she is the way she is
Still doesnt justify what she did....
@@mrsgamer9218never said it did but I can empathize now
@@devinport. yea i know. Its just a very sad story all together. There are no winners.
@@mrsgamer9218 except you and ranni despite her own methods
@@mrsgamer9218Only victims becoming perpetrators.
"One day we'll return together.
To our home, bathed in rays of gold.
There is only one tree, and only it's branches.
That bathe in true rays of gold.
Not the fool Omen King.
Not the rank malformed twins.
O' we are the Golden Ones.
The true and rightful heirs.
Our land's grown old, now ashen and cold.
But look up, the Erdtree glows!
One day, we will return together.
To our home, bathed in rays of gold.
And grace will surely guide us safe.
To our home, bathed in rays of gold."
I feel like Godrick's version of this poem is a bit... biased
Epik
Godrick’s version, circa 1945
Shut up
My theory is that Marika’s ambition came from the fact she lived in a world of loss and death, and once her mother (the grandmother) died, she wished to create a world without suffering and loss.
my theory is that she also beared hatred for the hornsent for what they did to her kind,waged war against them and became god by taking over the belurat tower thanks to his son messmer.
She became a god with the assistance of metyr and GW,and once thiss happened,she went on to conquer the rest of the lands between,creating atrocities and death everywhere for the sake of a greater good.
However,the GW stop communicating with metyr,and the two fingers who received instruction from metyr,had no idea what to do,and improvised everything.
Marika saw through the two fingers BS and breaksdown when she realizes that her order was based on a lie,that her crimes and genocides for a better world were a lie told by the two fingers.
And,when her son godwyn dies,she gives up all hopes and shatter the elden ring to end once and for all her duty as a goddess,and to ammend for her sin,waiting for a new lord to come
Did no good anyway. Only thing her plan created were the same things the Hornsent did. Ego and prosecution.
@scarlletnull2811 Well yea Thats the point. She perpetuated the cycle of violence, causing more suffering under the Golden Order despite her wishes to spread prosperity and peace under its rule.
This is less confirmed, but upon Godwyns death I think she realised that nothing had changed despite all her efforts and horrific actions. And so she tried to shatter the elden ring as a way to rid the world of her Order, but it didn't fully work.
@@scarlletnull2811 "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster". I think that quote sums her up perfectly. She wanted revenge but in doing so became just as bad as those who she sought vengeance against.
Another interpretation for her removal of the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring that I saw is that she did it so that nobody in the Land of Shadow will be able to die. That way, the Hornsent will suffer for eternity in a neverending hell under Messmer’s rule where they are hunted, brutalized, scorched and impaled by the crusaders.
i just noticed that the main elden ring theme is a mix of Radagon and Marika with the soft strings being Marika and the bombastic Orchestra and thumps being Radagons
The hornsent slaughtered Markia’s village for some vain act of achieving sainthood. So she goes down the path of attaining godhood, like Miquella, with the help of the Fingers. She travels off to the Lands Between to establish her Golden Order, and then returns with her son to wage war against the Hornsent and achieves her revenge.
No wonder she locks Morgott and Mogh away, and shuns all omens. They are reminders of an evil people to her, and of the death of her people… I can’t imagine what she must have thought when she gave birth to the twins
Marika was worse than anything the hornsent did.
@@CreativeUsernameEh for sure. It’s just an illuminating feeling to know exactly why she discarded her sons and all primal aspects of the Crucible
@@CreativeUsernameEh cant call one evil more evil. The hornsent reaped what they sewed. Bonny village, belurat jail, and more proved that.
But Marika would go on to be worse than the Hornsent, and a pretty vile parent to the other children.
The moment I heard this motif I knew something was up. I didn't realise until I read the lock of hair description; this is Marika's motif. This is Marika's home.
To think that THE Marika… Goddess of the Lands Between… Vessel to the Greater Will… The literal maker of the Golden Order… Came from such a small and… Dare I say insignificant place. And when you piece it all together… You realize that at the end of the day. Marika was just a traumatized country girl who wanted to be happy and avoid what she went through ever again… But, we all know how that went… And while knowing all of this doesn’t excuse her sins, you’d be lying if you said it didn’t make you understand her better…
I think she was raped too... And also husband beat her . She faced a lot of financial problems too.
To think all the death and destruction started here
Bro, this place makes me cry......
Poor Marika. Even though she is a God, she came from a small village. And she witnessed hornsents murder her people. Hornsents killed shamas either of a slander or they were seeing themselves as divine beings, just because of pure egoism. So, Marika wanted revenge. Maybe because of this feelings, Greater Will sent Meytr and Elden Beast to the Lands of Between. She became a God. Ordered his son to crusade hornsents, then came to her village for the last time and beautified her village with minor erdtree. Left her braid to her grandmother's statue.
Probably we never know what was her confession. Maybe the confession was she is also Radagon? But doesn't matter. She left her home in her behind as a beautiful momento.
But irony of fate, she gave birth to 2 omen demi-gods.
"The face of the Numen, supposed descendants of denizens of another world. Long-lived but seldom born."
The crusade was before she became a god. She sacrificed hornesets to call in the greater will.
@@vitaliyred622 The sacrifice for the Greater Will doesn't make sense in a way. Because in a sense, she shouldn't had power for this big sacrifiacation, she borned in a small village afterall. She wasn't powerful in that time. If she had so much power for crusade in a first place, she could save her village.
Frenzied Flame also doesn't need any sacrifices for its influence, just need strong emotions. In this case Marika probably called the Greater Will through her emotions when she witnessed the massacre. Then with Greater Will's help she killed hornsents and made divinity gate. After her godhood she started to crusade and tasked Messmer for this.
@@vitaliyred622wait what
Poor Marika? lol
The Hornsents were monsters but that doesn't excuse what her and her Golden Order. From what we know, the Golden Order committed even worse acts than the Hornsents.
Also, this might be the origin of the omens. It's Marika's crimes cursing people and coming back to haunt her.
@@theobell2002 What did the Golden Order do?
I feel like Marika whispered to the tree "Forgive, grandmother, not for what I have done. But for what I am about to do." Similar to what Ragnar says in Vikings.
I think after the purge, she returned here
Elden Ring is on another level.
So nothing here but the tree and history..
And a single braid of golden hair
This is poetry at its finest. As soon as I heard that harp come in, the waterworks came too. This area alone belongs on a canvas...
It's like a dream.
When i stumbled on here I legit got goosebumps all over... The motif reminds me of a kind of fleeting moment, like coming to the sad realization that you've experienced something once and even if you do experience it again the feeling of it will never be the same as that first time. Like some long lost love that you can only feel a small glimpse of via your ever shrinking memories.
All the kindness of gold, without order.
When I arrived I was afraid this beautiful moment would be ruined by some enemy.
Then I realised its not.
I was like "thanks for letting me have this fromsoft."
Shut up b
Classic PEAK Fromsoft.
Even if the masterful bosses are what we will all remember, like Bayle for me in ER DLC. It’s also the “less pointed” happenings which stick with us.
Here, we enter Marika’s home. Get a peek at her life and get to theorize motivations.
Moments like this happen with Midir’s arena for example. The beginning of the Souls series!
Or the Dragon cult area of DS1, after playing a silent game for hours you enter a secret with an area soundtrack!
Sekiro and how the Ashoka castle area is the first area that is changing with the story and Leyndel retook that concept.
Or the Demon Ruins optional area in DS3 letting us understand how they created a society.
And many other examples.
Letting areas talk is so *COOL!*
As the game didn't have an ending cutscene, i just decided to come here and sit listening to the music, what a journey this game was, always in my heart
When I first discovered Shaman Village and found minor Erdtree, I was optimistic, I read "Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well there was no one to heal" as that nobody was in need of healing. But now that I know what happened to Shaman Village, it's sad. Very, very sad.
You have a very beautiful heart
Story of TRAGEDY AND IRONY
My favorite moment in the DLC. The first main complaint I had for Elden Ring is the lack of "moments of silence" like this one, which I get it's weird but wish there were more chill moments. Who played knows what I'm talking but, something like THAT Shadow of the Colossus vibe is what ER could totally have more and nailed it, and this Shaman Village kinda encapsulates what I wanted.
I was talking to a friend how I wish there was an emptied big open field section with a big castle where there is NOTHING, just lore at least. Could be seen as a dumb waste, I get it the main loop gameplay is combat + exploration. We have to explore because combat, and there is combat because we explore. But I really wish they took more risks for moments like this.
This place was an experience I’ll never forget. I spent a good hour here just walking around on Torrent and siting back in my chair just taking in the sights
most beautiful place in the game, makes you want to live there
best lore moment in fromsoft history by far...better than plin plin plon... better than gherman...just wow fromsoft...just wow. elden ring is there magnum opus and it shows.
Cap
Plin pplin plon was magnum opus for me imo
Dark Souls' 3 Plin Plin Plon will remain as my hypest moment in gaming history ever.
bro only played elden ring smh
Sekiro return is better
Somehow this is the moment that hit me the hardest out of anything in the base game or the dlc.
the ost gives this scene a soul
This is the fu...ing Best place i only can imagine for finishing that great adventure. Feeling when you win the battle with all gods and other great creature's of this world, come here and sit near the fire or little gold tree with that music is the best you only can feel. Thanks Hidetaka and FromSoftware for that 2,5 years greatest adwenture, i will never forget this, and hope to see your nex masterpiece project.
Well, this will add excelently to my characters lore.
I came here the first time, partially spoiled thanks to the internet yet regardless, I still was broken by it especially the moment I heard the music choice, being that of the very first strum you hear whenever you turn on the game. Like...this is where it all started, Marika was just a simple village girl who heal and help those in need yet due to the Hornsent's atrocities, she wanted all to suffer the way she did. And if we go down the theory lane where Messmer (who is possibly Marika's firstborn) was cursed by the Fell God to carry the flames and red hair, it just furthers her hatred to all who keep hurting her family to the point it ripped away her humanity. And the shattering was the result of her fed up with her divinity cause if she can't even protect her family; if she can't even have humanity anymore where she would have reconsider to not make everyone within her family and the lands between/shadows suffer, then she will end it all herself. She imprison herself purposely to cease her from hurting anyone further and whatever the Tarnish will do at this point is what it is.
It's also worth noting too how this village was built nearby Messmer's keep which also says a lot on his character where he was familiar with Marika before godhood stripped away his mother's humanity as a whole. The tragedy of Marika doesn't excuse her actions alongside the rest of her family's atrocities (and I mean all of them), but it makes it all the more understanding the moment we step into the village and have an idea on what her true vision was but sadly would never be cause divinity comes with a cost. It shows the true horror of reaching godhood can fuck with anyone including us.
It's crazy to think that Radahn is the only demi-god that seems to be the only good person within the entire family (maybe Morgott) considered as the strongest among them all at the end he was used as a toy by the empyrean everyone loved
This area is just one big mental breakdown, it's so depressing wtf
I had to stop and stare for a minute. The peaceful motif of the Elden Ring main theme, the lack of enemies, the beautiful sight...
The music man Its so Nostalgic It is like a Long way from our first run in Elden Ring to the moment where we are now in the this village
message in front of the erdtree sapling: "be wary of forest"
At one point she was also a dreamer
The first time I came upon the Shaman Village I just sat and listened for over 2 hours.
one of my fav moments in the whole game 💯
i got there. heard the chords from the main theme, but there's... calmness? no aggression in music. few chords that explain a lot about emotions. picked up the item, minor erdtree and only then i felt the biggest smile on my face in days
i sat down. i put my character down sitting right next to the minor erdtree. it was peaceful. the wind felt... real and calming, just how marika wanted her life to be.
away from all chaos, destruction, and imperfections of the world, we found peace. it is where marika grew up. where she started was where we ended,
Great beauty belies great sadness....
This game really is something special man.
This DLC is so beautiful
This village gives big Majula vibes which I love
Seeing this abandoned village, and the lord behind it , really made me want to avenge Marika
Marika avenged her Village already and ironically did even worse in the Future
Then the people who slaughtered her Village. you either die a hero or live long enough to become a Villain
These are the true Shamans of Marika.
Best place in all elden ring
She would go on to inflict endless suffering upon countless innocent lives,but in this village,she was not the cruel queen Marika,she was just Marika,and today she went to visit her grandmother...
LEGENDARY
praise the golden order
“Gwandma I did it! I-“
This atmosphere felt like im back in majula in ds2. Except there no residence left....
I believe Marika is the one who killed or sacrificed the people in her village because of the fact that there are two items in the area that highlight the same thing namely the people's disappear
All the names of the instrumental characters in the lore have the inittials G R M
arrived there at night
It’s just so tragic, Marika was just another victim.
Remind me of Majula from DS 2
That was a cool place.
Yk im playing this game on medium...and seeing this video makes me wanna save up some money and buy a new cpu
When I played the base game, I always thought Marika was cold and heartless. She cast her own sons into the sewers, banished the nomads even further underground, and shattered her own order. It was hard to sympathize with a god that seemingly abused her power.
Playing the DLC... I now have a much different perspective on her. She was terrified of the sons who were living reminders of the hornsent, she was terrified of the possibility that the frenzied flame could haunt her new life too, and she saw the flaw in the order she was god of the night her favored son died.
Despite having godhood, Marika is still just a human.
Lore aside, reminds me of Majula a lot.
I wish the sapling would actually heal you when ur within its radius
"Marika was Eren Yeager all along"
She’s more like Ymir Fritz after her village was raided, sacked and its people meeting a grisly fate but instead of becoming a slave to a king after making contact with a mysterious, otherworldly power, she used that power to become a god, usurped that king’s place and become a vengeful, genocidal tyrant (though not without her reasons).
@@VictorIV0310 fair enough
The best area in the DLC
Finaly Majula 2
Marika. A tyrannical conqueror and a horrible mother. Yet at the same time, someone who loved her children and tried to do away with the Golden Order.
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Well you can sorta understand why Marika despised anyone with horns, including banishing two of her sons because they had them.
The thing is, I don't think she wanted to abandon her boys. The Regal Omen Bairn is a doll made of baby Morgott, presumably as a momento for Marika and Godfrey so they can have something to remember them by. The description states that it was made in secret. Why would a woman, a mother, abandon her children only to secretly make dolls of their likeness to hold and remember them by? It's because she was bound by Order and the Greater Will. It wasn't her choice to abandon her boys. As Trina said, "A caged divinity is worse than death." No wonder she shattered the ring.
She is a POS too. Imagine using the last point about her children as a defence for her.
Still tho that's kinda fucked up in the end of the day they were still her son's her blood and at that point she became a God but ironically she's still that scared little girl of the Village at least this part of the Dlc kinda humanizes her but it still dosen't justify what she does in the Future
Aureum, qui irascebaris?
This! THIS is where my Battlemage Lord character will retire once I 100% the PS5 version of the game. After the Hell the Souls series put me through, it’s about time my ass retired from this series; I’ve earned it.
I've edited video uploaded it and the next video recommended to me was this lol :D
Surene
impossible... a pure location like this in a souls game
Empty.
What made Marika so twisted from a village so beautiful ?
The genocide of her people by the Hornsent to use them as glue for their living jars.
God O God,
why is it always betrayal…?
Rating: 0
Marika did nothing wrong.
I wouldn't mind a whole bigger part of the map being this aesthetic. I love the dark shadow realm theme, but the bliss of getting to this part of the game after the progress in the darker areas is great.
Can you not put the spoiler for the area in the thumbnail
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This was the best moment of the DLC for me. I am not a huge fan of how overdesigned the bosses are, but this little moment showed me that FROM still knows the value of simplicity.
I'm so thankful they didn't decide to put a boss here, they just let it be a quiet moment you have to yourself.
So Marika is basically both Ymir and Eren
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If I wasn't convinced Marika was pure evil before, this would be the moment that confirmed it. Sent her son across the fog to slaughter her own people
No dummy. Her people were slaughtered by the hornsents. She obtained godhood to save anyone who remained and started a crusade against the hornsent to do so, but no one remained alive once she returned. This is why the minor erdtree is there, it was more of a rose on the coffin moment for her. She's not innocent or a good person by any means, but I do have to correct that statement you've made as it's simply not true as the hornsents aren't her people, the shamans were. Aka the enemies that are made up of flesh you find in goals that wear pots. They were being sacrificed for the hornsents saint hood, shoved into pots and melted together in those masses of flesh.
I think you got it mixed up, messmer was sent to wage war against the hornsent, because the hornsent and bonny village were kidnapping the people from her village and stuffing them into jars (killing them) for some twisted ritual regarding sainthood. The whole reason messmer was there was for revenge for what they did to his mother
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@@arman5918 lol you need to look at the lore again bud
@arman5918 obviously missed a lot of it. Now let your boyfriend defend his own point and stop liking your own comment
no matter how exquisite no matter how tender , A LIE WILL REMAIN A LIE !
eldren ring and all the souls born games(lore) are mere shit mixted together , and lore freaks take the bait every time .
nice bait
I don't care about any of that. The real crime is all of these beautiful locations are empty just like most of the areas in this DLC.
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The absolute irony of quoting a Souls character while trying to talk shit about people who actually pay attention and care about the characters and stories of these games is insane.
Learn to spell and grammar correctly before talking shit lmfao
Oh, yay another big beautiful empty area.