J.C. Bach/Casadesus - Viola concerto in C minor (full concert)
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- J.C, Bach/Casadesus - Viola concerto in C minor
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The Concerto in C minor of Johann Christian Bach, known in alternative versions for violin, viola, and cello, is an appealing example, at least on the surface, of a Classical-era concerto. The second movement in particular has a lovely, singing cantabile melodic line that caresses the listener, much in the manner expected from music created by the top composers of the eighteenth century, of which Johann Christian Bach was certainly a primary representative.
There is only one problem with this work, and that is that Johann Christian Bach did not compose it.
The concerto first appeared under the Salabert imprint in Paris in 1947, published by Madame Salabert as a memorial to her husband, Francis, who had been killed in an airplane crash on December 28, 1946. The preface to this edition states that the concerto, along with its documentation, was received in 1916 by violist Henri Casadesus from Camille Saint-Saëns, then serving as president of the Société des Instruments Anciens. The Concerto in C minor was said to be originally scored for viola da gamba, and to this day program notes may be found stating that this piece was written for the famous gambist Carl Friedrich Abel and played in the rooms of Hanover Square North in 1789. In preparation for the Salabert edition, Henri Casadesus is listed as having edited the viola concerto, whereas André Tourret is identified as editor for the violin version and famed French cellist Maurice Maréchal is named as having edited the cello version.
The Concerto in C minor was swiftly adopted by cellists in particular and became a concert staple, since then many times recorded under Johann Christian Bach's name. Henri Casadesus died in 1947 and sometime after his death, it was established that this concerto was not the work of Johann Christian Bach, but of Casadesus himself. As in the case of the viola concertos that Casadesus also "edited" from works of George Frideric Handel and Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, these were original pieces that were cobbled together from various sources to be found from the Classical era. The stories about Saint-Saëns, Abel, and the Hanover Rooms were all concocted by Casadesus and the work itself is a forgery. It is doubtful that Madame Salabert, Tourret, or Maréchal were in on the game that Casadesus was playing here. Johann Christian Bach did write a cello concerto, but it was an early work written before 1755, perhaps his first attempt in the concerto genre. It is only known because it is listed in the inventory made of manuscripts belonging to Johann Christian Bach's elder brother, Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, made after the latter's death in 1788.
"This concerto has since disappeared and historically it is impossible, even irresponsible, to accept the Casadesus work as a viable substitute"
Uncle Dave Lewis , Rovi
Thanks for listen
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El Concierto en Do menor de Johann Christian Bach, conocido en versiones alternativas para violín, viola y violonchelo, es un ejemplo atractivo, al menos en la superficie, de un concierto clásico de la época. El segundo movimiento, en particular, tiene un precioso cantabile con una línea melódica que acaricia el oyente en la forma esperada de la música creada por los compositores más importantes del siglo XVIII, de los cuales Johann Christian Bach fue sin duda un representante principal.
Sólo hay un problema con este trabajo, y es que no pertenece a Johann Christian Bach
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"Este concierto ha desaparecido e históricamente es imposible, incluso irresponsable, a aceptar el trabajo Casadesus como un sustituto viable" Dave Lewis, Rovi
Gracias por escuchar
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me!
@@slayer5967 I don't remember posting this comment and I feel ashamed that I did
@@bathtubbarracuda2581 you shouldn't be ashamed, viola gang is something to be proud of
Viola is special**
A masterpiece is a masterpiece, no matter who wrote it.
Contrary to other comments here, I feel the speed is perfect. Nowadays many interpretations are too fast, focussing on the technical skills of the soloist rather than the subtle and profound beauty of the music.
The Violist in this recording is Wolfram Christ (former in and out principle with the Berlin Philharmonic).
violist get it right!
*The third movement inspires me so much. It makes me feel something inside, something welling up in the center of my chest but I can't quite place what it is. I just know that I feel the urge to play this piece and play it perfectly with a lot of expression...* I'm not a violist though..
note to self: 3rd movement starts at 10:19
yo what's up
Thanks a lot for posting this beautiful piece! Viola is such a wonderful sounding instrument...
My brother plays it for me. It`s wonderfully awesome.
The composer may not be J.C. Bach ...
The violinist may be unknown ...
But ... one thing is for sure. I enjoyed listening tremendously ;o)
Thank you!
glad you enjoy it!
Yeah, I'm with you, the composer isn't J.C.Bach, because at several times is the romantic style, so Johann Christian Bach can't be the composer.
And yes, I enjoyed listening too, but I've one thing in favor, that I can play it. ( Not with the viola but yes with the cello)
Javier Almenar casadesus wrote it and then he said it was bach's so people bought it. did the same with hendel's
VIOLA
viola
I'm playing this
Precioso. Un agrado escuchar un concierto de viola! gracias por el aporte!
Estupendo, magnífico
I love this as well as the 'Handel' concerto for viola - not matter that they're fake! Still highly enjoyable
Este Concierto es obra de Henri Casadesus (Paris:1879-1947) , el violista es el gran Wolfram Christ. Se dice que está escrito en el estilo de Johann Christian Bach , pero su autor es Casadesus.
fantástico, gracias por compartir
Beautiful concert and nice photo... Chz!
¡Fantástica interpretación!
Ugh he plays the last mov. so effortlessly im getting depressed.
I love the music, and I understand so much more the description! Thanks!
10:16
Came to revisit ... and today could hear a significant similarity with Albinoni. So this is certainly an interesting composition with quite a bit of controversy, isn't it. Nevertheless it makes for wonderful listening. Thanks again :o)
It is a neoromantic piece with no resemblance to baroque composer Albinoni. Maybe you are thinking of the socalled Albinoni Adagio which is actually by Giazotto.
3:43-3:56 saddest moment
great performence!!!! i like it..
If I've being completely honest (uh oh, that's a Simon Cowell-esque opening), that fact that it had been attributed to J.C. Bach probably gave it many more performances and recordings than it deserved.
This is indeed in style of Bach junior, but not J.C.
Rather W.F. and C.P.E. hybrid style.
♥!!!~
perhaps... but i think that for a level-student concerto has some nice tunes in it (third movement) :)
sorry, don't know there was no info in the file...
Si no seria mucha molestia podrian compartir las partituras para orquesta?
Hola: el concierto aparece en IMSLP como concierto en C para Cello: imslp.org/wiki/Cello_Concerto_in_C_minor,_W.C77_(Bach,_Johann_Christian)
Un saludo.
Eso es, aparece como concierto para cello en IMSLP.
I wonder why he attributed it to JC Bach. It sounds nothing like his music, but then again his music was scarcely performed early 20th century
Se parece a mi proveedora de filtros PSA-
Юрий Абрамович, не хорошо себя называть "неизвестным артистом". Спасибо.
who is the violist????!?!?!?!
From what I've heard it's Wolfram Christ, the principal violist from the Berlin Philharmonic
Lamentablemente no es como la versión del gran violista MICHAEL MICHALAKAKOS !!!
First movement too slow
Really? I actually enjoy it more this way. I sounds more like Bach when the orchestra plays more slowly.