3: Rome to Byzantium: Transformation of the Roman Empire

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  • čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
  • In this episode, we discuss the transformation, hellenisation, and orientalisation of the Roman Empire: The Apostolic Age, the Crisis of the Third Century, Diocletian and the Tetrarchy, Christianisation under Constantine the Great, the Byzantine-Sassanian War, the first Byzantine-Arab War, and the reforms of the Emperor Heraclius.
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    Columba: / columba_1
    Marcus Pertinax: / furiuspertinax
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Komentáře • 46

  • @TheEliato
    @TheEliato Před 3 lety +30

    As always an enlightening stream on history gents.

  • @johnboy1536
    @johnboy1536 Před 3 lety +13

    so sad I missed this live

  • @IsaacWolfOfficial
    @IsaacWolfOfficial Před rokem +20

    You would not believe how hard it was to find a video on a simple subject Rome to Byzantium. So many videos are "history of rome" or "history of byzantine", but both somehow fail to ever address these crucial years and transitions

    • @hachibidelta4237
      @hachibidelta4237 Před 10 měsíci

      There was no literal transition, for Constantinople it was still the Roman Empire until it's demise.

    • @paisios2541
      @paisios2541 Před 9 měsíci

      A history of the Byzantine State and Society by Treadgold is good

  • @skadiwarrior2053
    @skadiwarrior2053 Před 3 lety +13

    Very interesting and impressive, if a bit deep. Will need a second listen. Excellent reference source too. Thank you.

    • @crazyt5754
      @crazyt5754 Před 5 měsíci

      well worth a second listen. deep and thought provoking.(all in series not just this one)

  • @misterkefir
    @misterkefir Před 3 lety +16

    10/10 - Stellar work.
    Cheers & God Bless, gentlemen. Thank you.

  • @photosyntheticzee9915
    @photosyntheticzee9915 Před 3 lety +7

    AM should do Foundations of Classics

  • @lostboy8345
    @lostboy8345 Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent work here, my one and only subscription on CZcams and worth every cent. These 3 men do an excellent job of moving around a complex topic and AM does an stellar job of keeping the trio focused. We should all recognize how important and powerful these streams are; finished 1, 2 and 3 this weekend. Ready for Byzantium.

  • @joelmontero9439
    @joelmontero9439 Před 2 lety +4

    ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

  • @JustineBrownsBookshelf
    @JustineBrownsBookshelf Před 3 lety +6

    On the Yazedis- or arch-angelicans- yes, they are condemned by the Muslims as Satanists because they honour Lucifer along with other archangels.

  • @gregsmith6935
    @gregsmith6935 Před 3 lety +4

    I keep coming back to.
    DON'T OUTSOURSE YOUR MILITARY!

  • @melfice999
    @melfice999 Před 3 lety +20

    On Islamic Conquests part of the stream. Its a thing to note, that doing parts of these Conquests, much of Christendom tended to lump Islam and Judaism together as a single religion, not because of Doctrine, but because of the fact that from Middle East to Iberia, the Jews were almost always there, ready to flung open the gates, and to surrender Christian cities over to the incoming Islamic Conquerors.
    And I'd like to also add, some say this betrayal of the locals by the jewish merchant and priestly classes doing the Iberian Conquests of Islam is part of the reason for the Alhambra Decree doing the Spanish Reconquest as well. This all is rather curious stuff, which sadly, can't be talked about too much in too much detail in current political environment sadly...

    • @lowersaxon
      @lowersaxon Před rokem +3

      Exactly. This environment will not change, I think.

    • @Bazed.
      @Bazed. Před rokem +4

      Interesting, I got an ad today for a video downplaying that J’s did anything wrong in Spain and that the expulsion was unjustified. Who does propaganda on 500+ year old events? Desperate.

    • @Michael_the_Drunkard
      @Michael_the_Drunkard Před rokem +1

      ​@@Bazed.Jewish damage control

    • @hachibidelta4237
      @hachibidelta4237 Před 10 měsíci

      Also don't forget about the monophysites, the Armenian hated the imperial government also.

    • @ResidentEyebrowAppreciator
      @ResidentEyebrowAppreciator Před 4 měsíci +1

      I think if I was living as a 2nd class citizen under Rome, I would fling open the gates for nearly anyone.
      And looking forward, at how much the Muslims improved Spain throughout the middle ages, it was certainly worth it.

  • @averytameburrito3101
    @averytameburrito3101 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love the history of the greco-roman empire.

  • @vandare6913
    @vandare6913 Před rokem +7

    "With the collapse of the empire in the west, its eastern counterpart became, in reality, an entirely new and independent state, at once Greek by language and Roman in name: 'A Greek Roman empire'."
    Roderick Beaton, "The Greeks: a global history", New York: Basic books 2021, pp. 212

    • @ladoga
      @ladoga Před rokem +5

      The Roman Empire was in a way Greek (or rather a multicultural empire) all the time. In trade Greek was the linqua franca across the Mediterranean. After the conquest of Greece, Levant and Egypt it was spoken and used as administrative language in eastern provinces. Even before that Romans adopted Greek architecture and pantheon, higher classes spoke and wrote much of their their literary in Koine Greek. (For an example Marcus Aurelius' meditations was originally written in Greek) and much of Roman generals' correspondence between eachother (even in the west) was written in Greek.
      Gaius Julius Caesar quoted Menander when crossing the Rubicon by saying "anerriphtho kybos!".
      "The Roman historian Plutarch reported that at this critical moment of decision Caesar declared in Greek and in a loud voice, "let the die be cast!" and then led his troops across the river. Plutarch renders the phrase in Latin, of course, as "alea iacta est" or "iacta alea est.""
      etc. etc.
      I find differentiating Roman vs Byzantine somewhat preposterous. People of the empire never called themselves Byzantines so why should we?

  • @Antonin4Real
    @Antonin4Real Před 9 měsíci

    I woke up and thats was played

  • @styx4947
    @styx4947 Před 2 lety +3

    I don't think it's hard to understand how Christianity could spread that far and that fast. We're talking about the height of the power of the Empire, it's roads and its army's are everywhere. Especially before 400 AD. Any idea or technology can use these "arteries of empire", to move around at just this time.

    • @lowersaxon
      @lowersaxon Před rokem

      I allow myself to recommend Bart Ehrman (US) on this and nearly every other question concerning early Christendom.

  • @johnboy1536
    @johnboy1536 Před 3 lety +9

    I have a couple of questions which I hope it is ok to ask. 1) do we think that the change from pagan polytheism to Christian monotheism in itself had an impact on the psychology and social attitudes of the peoples of the Roman Empire - as distinct from the the political changes (?) 2 ) this is a bit wild and anachronistic but the map of the the late Roman empire overlaps quite well with the spread of neolithic farmers some 5,000 years earlier from Anatolia up through Europe ... I'm beginning to think that European history is a series of repeated patterns ... for instance the E.U. and the empire of Charlemagne and so on ... maybe I'm over thinking this :)

    • @davycrockett1112
      @davycrockett1112 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree we can see such patterns play over and over. Like the Frank Germanic tribes versus the other Germans that plays out to this day

    • @veerswami7175
      @veerswami7175 Před rokem

      Guilt is pretty add on the European psyche

  • @golgumbazguide...4113

    Welcome to Golgumbaz

  • @tzeentchvonsheo9868
    @tzeentchvonsheo9868 Před 4 měsíci

    24:40 it's not related to baal actually, that's ilah al-jabal, mountain god

  • @jeffreyzervos6938
    @jeffreyzervos6938 Před rokem

    Yeah once Rome took over Greece and Anatolia in the 2nd and 1st century bc it was almost assured that Rome would be heavily influenced by the Greeks

  • @user-eu8ub9cm5t
    @user-eu8ub9cm5t Před 3 měsíci

    Video 1/06 Hurrah it is Holy Week 2024 Anniversary of 324 Ad Constantine Sole Rule
    While next year will be Anniversary of First Church Council ever held NICAEA 325 AD
    Hoping you may wish to make video on 318 Bishops present symbolic of Abraham Army of 318 in Genesis
    A complete list still exists somewhere that maybe you can research?

  • @davycrockett1112
    @davycrockett1112 Před 2 lety

    1:44:00 The original sport hooligans

  • @jeremym.767
    @jeremym.767 Před 2 měsíci

    -0.5 playback speed sounds like you guys are trashed haha.

  • @kerkblack836
    @kerkblack836 Před 7 měsíci

    the only think u had to wsay about the greekness of the kosmopolis of byzantium was constantine? really?

  • @UKESRfertilizer
    @UKESRfertilizer Před 2 lety

    Really really poor

  • @thelordofgifts5343
    @thelordofgifts5343 Před 11 měsíci

    Great great stuff boys