Regarding 13:10, 22:00: Peter Turchin makes a similar point in his book War and Peace and War where he says the threat of the Gallic Barbarian on the Cisalpine frontier is crucial for the formation of the Roman ethnic identity and social cohesion. Paradoxically, once the frontier is eliminated, so does the reason for the vibrancy of the Roman psyche, and his mathematical model traces the beginning of Roman decadence which would lead to the abolition of the Republic after Caesar to the closing of the Cisalpine Frontier. He makes a comparison to the Russian expansion into Siberia and of course the North American frontier with the Native Americans.
Top quality infotainment, as always gentlemen. One of these channels that make me still want to visit this forsaken place (CZcams I mean). Fascinating stuff. Cheers, God Bless and keep up the good work!
This is so interesting and informative for a topic that gets little love on youtube, thank you all for coming together to do this, you all did fabulously.
I am fascinated by this period generally, and I’ve had an idea for a fantasy novel that borrows a lot from it. The transformation of the pagan west into Christendom, the fall of the Roman Empire, the emergence of great kingdoms from chaos, and the effect of ethnicity as a persisting form of ancient tribes, how these tribes became settled peoples under kings and conquering peoples. The period is complicated in a way that defies modern notions about human nature. You can’t just say “they were stupid back then, that’s why things were different.” Or maybe we have lied to ourselves to pretend we have nothing in common with them.
1:39:20 - It was Severus Alexander, not Caracalla whose death started the Crisis of the Third Century. But Caracalla's death almost certainly got the ball rolling.
How does this have only 4K views? What a travesty! Great work gentlemen. I love the seamless blend of scholarship and candid discussion. A little more structure would be nice, though I believe a script may remove some of the interesting tangents and thus deminsh the charm of this podcast. This is the first video of yours I have watched, so I shall hold my criticism and judgement until I have consumed some more recent productions. However, so far I'm very impressed. Thank you, all three of you, for your time and effort in making this series. I hope that with time this channel grows to a size which the quality of your content deserves.
@Apostolic Majesty Yet another great historical stream with good, Knowledgeable, guests. If I might say so the only major historical mistake I have seen you make was to say, on a recent stream, that only US involvement in WWI stopped the last German offensives succeeding in 1918. That simply is not true at all. While there may well have been up to 2 million US troops in Europe by November 1918, the vast majority of them saw no action and most hardly even made it into a trench line. Prior losses and especially Verdun followed by the failed Nivelle offensive, badly scarred the French Army, resulting in mutinies that made many of their troops not very useful for offensive action for the rest of the war (something that even carried over to 1939-40). It was the British and Commonwealth Armies (especially Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand) aided by some French forces, who first stopped and then threw back the German 1918 offensives and then it was, overwhelmingly, the British and Commonwealth armies that counter attacked in a campaign of 100 days that defeated and in many places broke the German armies to the extent that the German's had no choice but to ask for a armistice to avoid the invasion of Germany. American forces played, very much, a secondary role in this, although they would have been much more important had the war continued into 1919. Otherwise Great channel sir.
Thanks, though do bear in mind that I'm not a military historian and what limited expertise I do possess pertain mostly to the eastern front in WW1 (it was an Austria stream after all with Mr Patriarch). I confess that I will and have made plenty of mistakes when speaking live. That being said I am aware of the claims you have illustrated, and indeed some counter-claims of which I personally favour which tend to focus on German morale. This was certainly the case with Austria in late 1918. It's a subject I'll need to research more, and certainly did not do justice to with my passing remark. Otherwise, I appreciate constructive criticism :).
Caesar is one of strongest arguments for Great Men theory of history. Some things are bound to happen and are emergent but sometimes some people just make things happen.
It's just good to be able to listen to a rich discussion of history in the certain knowledge that at no point will the flow be interrupted by some stupid lefty hand wringing comment.
This made me laugh. Yeah, the lefties have pretty much taken over academia, haven't they? Even when you agree with them their self-righteousness can be quite annoying.
Very true. And i believe that many contend that the adoption of this practice is attributable to a Phoenician cultural connection that developed at some point (the Phoenicians themselves being held to have had something of a cultural/civilizational degeneration, which then affected their colonial posessions by extension and thus the peoples with whom these colonies had functioning relationships, such as the Iberian and Gaulic Celts)
Cunliffe (1997) The ancient celts; Kristiansen (1998) Europe before history; Piggot (1965) Ancient Europe; Piggot et al. (ed.) France before the Romans; Collis (!984) The European Iron Age; Chadwick (1971) the celts; James (1999) the atlantic celts; Collis (2003) The celts: origins myths inventions; Rankin (1987) Celts and the classical world; Bintliff (1984) European Social Evolution; Koch (1994) the celtic heroic age (a nice collection of all ancient/early medieval sources on the celts); Arnold & Gibson (1995) Celtic chiefdom celtic state; cunlife (1998) greeks, romans & barbarians; Wells (1980) culture contact and culture change; Hachmann (1971) The Ancient civilization of the Germanic Peoples; Hedeager (1992) Iron-Age societies
Dacian celts were most likely the only celts with real similarities with ancient era slavic groups. While the rest of the celtic populations only shared religious and cultural aspects due to Indo-Euro origins.
you must imagine the %age of myth in each piece of information. i know,as certainly as can be known, alotta Druid information,that is realistic,is based on made up stories,not unlike modern media. hav found contradictions in history study,plain&simple. archeology is helpful. G.Davis sr
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Regarding 13:10, 22:00: Peter Turchin makes a similar point in his book War and Peace and War where he says the threat of the Gallic Barbarian on the Cisalpine frontier is crucial for the formation of the Roman ethnic identity and social cohesion. Paradoxically, once the frontier is eliminated, so does the reason for the vibrancy of the Roman psyche, and his mathematical model traces the beginning of Roman decadence which would lead to the abolition of the Republic after Caesar to the closing of the Cisalpine Frontier. He makes a comparison to the Russian expansion into Siberia and of course the North American frontier with the Native Americans.
Top quality infotainment, as always gentlemen. One of these channels that make me still want to visit this forsaken place (CZcams I mean). Fascinating stuff. Cheers, God Bless and keep up the good work!
Oooh. I didn't realize you were going to cover all of French history starting from Gaul.
This is going to be super fun when you get to Greece.
This is so interesting and informative for a topic that gets little love on youtube, thank you all for coming together to do this, you all did fabulously.
Fantastic. Now THIS is what CZcams is for. Thanks AM.
I think we can all agree Caesar was stunning and brave
I am fascinated by this period generally, and I’ve had an idea for a fantasy novel that borrows a lot from it.
The transformation of the pagan west into Christendom, the fall of the Roman Empire, the emergence of great kingdoms from chaos, and the effect of ethnicity as a persisting form of ancient tribes, how these tribes became settled peoples under kings and conquering peoples.
The period is complicated in a way that defies modern notions about human nature. You can’t just say “they were stupid back then, that’s why things were different.” Or maybe we have lied to ourselves to pretend we have nothing in common with them.
1:39:20 - It was Severus Alexander, not Caracalla whose death started the Crisis of the Third Century. But Caracalla's death almost certainly got the ball rolling.
How does this have only 4K views? What a travesty! Great work gentlemen. I love the seamless blend of scholarship and candid discussion. A little more structure would be nice, though I believe a script may remove some of the interesting tangents and thus deminsh the charm of this podcast.
This is the first video of yours I have watched, so I shall hold my criticism and judgement until I have consumed some more recent productions. However, so far I'm very impressed. Thank you, all three of you, for your time and effort in making this series. I hope that with time this channel grows to a size which the quality of your content deserves.
How does this have only 20K views?
Your ads were fantastic - cant you guys have a few visuals? Please.
I'll see what I can do.
@Apostolic Majesty Yet another great historical stream with good, Knowledgeable, guests.
If I might say so the only major historical mistake I have seen you make was to say, on a recent stream, that only US involvement in WWI stopped the last German offensives succeeding in 1918. That simply is not true at all. While there may well have been up to 2 million US troops in Europe by November 1918, the vast majority of them saw no action and most hardly even made it into a trench line. Prior losses and especially Verdun followed by the failed Nivelle offensive, badly scarred the French Army, resulting in mutinies that made many of their troops not very useful for offensive action for the rest of the war (something that even carried over to 1939-40). It was the British and Commonwealth Armies (especially Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand) aided by some French forces, who first stopped and then threw back the German 1918 offensives and then it was, overwhelmingly, the British and Commonwealth armies that counter attacked in a campaign of 100 days that defeated and in many places broke the German armies to the extent that the German's had no choice but to ask for a armistice to avoid the invasion of Germany. American forces played, very much, a secondary role in this, although they would have been much more important had the war continued into 1919.
Otherwise Great channel sir.
Thanks, though do bear in mind that I'm not a military historian and what limited expertise I do possess pertain mostly to the eastern front in WW1 (it was an Austria stream after all with Mr Patriarch). I confess that I will and have made plenty of mistakes when speaking live. That being said I am aware of the claims you have illustrated, and indeed some counter-claims of which I personally favour which tend to focus on German morale. This was certainly the case with Austria in late 1918. It's a subject I'll need to research more, and certainly did not do justice to with my passing remark. Otherwise, I appreciate constructive criticism :).
By Toutatis! -Asterix
Great show as always. How funny was it how badly yous wanted to talk about Caesar? lol
Fascinating stream, thank you gentlemen
finally long videos on my favorite subject so my listening begins thank you!
Caesar is one of strongest arguments for Great Men theory of history. Some things are bound to happen and are emergent but sometimes some people just make things happen.
I have been bingeing all your content while weight-lifting at the gym, I dedicate every new muscle fibre to this superlative Anglo-Scotch partnership!
Scotch is a drink, lol.
@@anonanon7497 Which was named from a people group.
This was really interesting, thanks- chat GPT got me here searching up history of the Gaelic/Celtic people
For religion of the celts/indo europeans, I suggest 'Hammer & Vajra Syncretic Indo-European Faith'
Just fantastic
It's just good to be able to listen to a rich discussion of history in the certain knowledge that at no point will the flow be interrupted by some stupid lefty hand wringing comment.
This made me laugh. Yeah, the lefties have pretty much taken over academia, haven't they? Even when you agree with them their self-righteousness can be quite annoying.
I’m a lefty and here is your hand wringing comment you goddamn reactionary
Get Bent
@@christophereichten9005you're in the wrong channel lefty
Edit: lmao at your comment history
@@hkleider I don’t care what fascists think about me. We know what you are!
the Celtic human sacrifices were on a much much much smaller scale than the Aztecs who sacrifice thousands in a day
Very true.
And i believe that many contend that the adoption of this practice is attributable to a Phoenician cultural connection that developed at some point (the Phoenicians themselves being held to have had something of a cultural/civilizational degeneration, which then affected their colonial posessions by extension and thus the peoples with whom these colonies had functioning relationships, such as the Iberian and Gaulic Celts)
Thanks kings
Great stream chaps, cheers.
Your history series should be standard teaching in all schools the world over.
Great talk.
Any resources you recommend for learning about this topic?
Caesar's Commentaries are very accessible and a great read. We also drew on John Drinkwater's Roman Gaul. Glad you enjoyed it!
Cunliffe (1997) The ancient celts; Kristiansen (1998) Europe before history; Piggot (1965) Ancient Europe; Piggot et al. (ed.) France before the Romans; Collis (!984) The European Iron Age; Chadwick (1971) the celts; James (1999) the atlantic celts; Collis (2003) The celts: origins myths inventions; Rankin (1987) Celts and the classical world; Bintliff (1984) European Social Evolution; Koch (1994) the celtic heroic age (a nice collection of all ancient/early medieval sources on the celts); Arnold & Gibson (1995) Celtic chiefdom celtic state; cunlife (1998) greeks, romans & barbarians; Wells (1980) culture contact and culture change; Hachmann (1971) The Ancient civilization of the Germanic Peoples; Hedeager (1992) Iron-Age societies
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This turned into a Caesar tribute...
Was supposed to be about the Gauls. At the very least you could have talked a bit about Gergovia.
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How much different or close were Celts from Slavs???
Dacian celts were most likely the only celts with real similarities with ancient era slavic groups. While the rest of the celtic populations only shared religious and cultural aspects due to Indo-Euro origins.
"Where the Celts were tall, the Germans were taller. Where the Celts were blonde, the Germans were blonder."
Great channel, Boer from SA. You speak of shit we cannot talk ab out, we are the legends, later they will learn our names.
Druidic learning was said to be "Severn years listening, Severn years learning and finally Severn years practicing".
The last emperor of the Severan dynasty was Severus Alexander
We're in the middle of another great migration.
The Celts originated from the Tarim desert Basin in China.
25 min the Roman's were the Borg of the classic world
*The Norse have entered the chat.
note the preponderance of evidence in S.America of
human sacrifice&limited evidence,for same,in
Britain
Rome-Gaul-Breton-France doesn’t include celts & Vikings
Picts were proto-Celts, change my mind.
you must imagine the %age of myth in each piece
of information. i know,as certainly as can be known,
alotta Druid information,that is realistic,is based on
made up stories,not unlike modern media. hav
found contradictions in history study,plain&simple.
archeology is helpful. G.Davis sr
I love me some speaking Christianity.
Hallstatt was for sure not Germanic, they had not spread so deep into the South at that Time.
Say et cetera one more time *racks slide*