Say No to Happiness: CBC Ideas
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Life is about being happy, right? Just ask the Dalai Lama...or any of the best-selling authors on the subject...or the scientists who study the benefits of being happy. But are we losing something else along the way: the need for meaning in our lives? IDEAS producer Frank Faulk examines the tension between our desire for happiness and our need for meaning.
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I just hope Peterson knows how much he is appreciated and how useful we all find these lectures. The dudes a modern day saint and a true role model.
no
He does and doesn't.
Jordan Peterson starts at 12:20 again at 22:10 peppered through until the end.
Your comment increased my happiness.
his other parts: 25:01, 38:47, 40:22, 46:15 and 50:36
Tom Woodthorpe these are not all the parts but this helps thanks
Ty!
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hehehe "Say NO to happiness" --- and then one of the few pictures of Jordan Peterson smiling
janglestick there's a point somewhere in here
what else a dead inside smile?
I guess happiness is not rigorously defined in the documentary
@@venkateshwarlusonnathi4137 Good point. Of course, happiness is dangerously restrictive to define, even Maslow's hierarchy can turn into a fascism. It's much safer and more functional to identify dysfunctions, but then of course the world seems to be defined disproportionately by a huge list of bummers.
you can still smile while you are collapsing inside. :)
"Something strange that I've observed with my students that when I state the proposition to my students that life is suffering and the purpose of life is not happiness, they actually experience that as a great relief. And the reason I believe they experience it as a great relief is that they already know it. Even if they wouldn't necessarily articulate that, their experience has taught them that life is complex and tragic and difficult and the problem with the public portrayal of the ideal state of humanness as happiness is that it makes all of these people, these young people, feel ashamed of their own suffering. They feel that if they are suffering and if they find their life tragic in its essence, that means there is something wrong with them, and instantly that makes it impossible for them to communicate anything real about their own tragedy. - Jordan Peterson
This part stuck me hard as well!
I am still waiting for the end quotes
Happiness comes from the word 'happenstance' meaning fleeting. Contentment is what most of us may be looking for.
Huxley - brave new world
I'd say fulfillment (rich with meaning) is what we want, not contentment, which is a sort of anemic word, imo.
Victor Frankl's book Mans Search for Meaning was a primary work that emphasized meaning as an antidote to suffering, contrasted to Freud's ideas about pleasure.
Accepting suffering is a part of existential thought, if I'm not mistaken. Personally, I'm partial to Kierkegaard but Sartre or Camus are popular thinkers in this regard.
Happenstance is a synonym for 'luck':
"From Greek to Irish, a great majority of the European words for "happy" at first meant "lucky." An exception is Welsh, where the word used first meant "wise." "
www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=happy
Bayandkeysnan theirhappyphor whats the question?
46:15 - 48:10
That just sums it all up
for you
There's simply too much room for self deception when you command yourself to be in any state of mind. That's why I believe changing your state of mind should always be through changing your state of being.
TheOlzee I think that changes your state of being. But maybe I need to make the wording better to make it obvious that drugs are included.
"...drugs are included."
Ergo the pub is the place to do philosophy?
("...Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle
Hobbes was fond of his dram...")
From where happiness, I think, comes from, is by taking responsibility for every aspect of your life all the time. Even in grieving, painful, horrible, moments, even if your not happy as we can imagine it, if you take responsibility for yourself and environnement and others, you have a contentment or sense of fulfillment, because you give yourself control instead of being a victim.
That's what I always thought and realise really makes sense.
Running away from legitimate suffering is not chasing happiness. Also chasing happiness is a path paved in misery.
MGTOW Psyche what is legitimate suffering.....
Actually letting the raw "negative" emotions flood our psyche and feeling deeply when something hurts us psychologically...like loss or betrayal.
MGTOW Psyche firstly, i took this for a recent video, i realized later that it was in 2014
As to your claim those negative emotions you talk about, why are they legitimate, i don't think they serve any functional value, after the loss, maybe there anticipation does, but even that is not obvious............. If not functionality What other criteria do you have to legitimize suffering...... I think that such justification comes out of a moral inferiority complex a moral narsiism so to speak, that somehow one is responsible for that loss or betrayal and must punish oneself (maybe that was the case, but i don't think, such suffering is the correct response to that legitimizing it, it's just a indicator)
Damnation Forsaken
"Neurosis is always a substitute for legitimate suffering" Carl Jung
MGTOW Psyche oh that is a very different thing, that is a very different statement, i don't think that legitimate suffering mentioned there means negative emotions felt on loss or betrayal, it's about substituting a worse outcome by be a less worse one, that in a way would be chasing happiness , and neurosis as an alternative to that is the suffering you mentioned in your previous post......
Amazing that someone has to go to such great length to discover that gratitude is the path to happiness, when it has been described in Phillipians 4:8 for about 2000 years. So unfortunate we abandoned this great book!
100% agreed, Brie! Well said!
Who abandoned it? I know many, many millions who didn’t 😆👍🏼
Perhaps.
This is one of the best most comprehensive discussions and broadcasts on happiness. Very well done.
Agreed
Long live Dr Jordan Peterson!!! He opened my eyes....
I'm always fascinated by your perspective on happiness, morality and people's motivations. You've just given me several other people to look at for the same thing. Thank you for all that you do.
gratitude brings me joy and happiness.
25:01 ..... goodness. What's said in this moment is very valuable, indeed.
I *am* relieved. Extremely so.
I wish more people around me understood English well enough so that I could show them this video :(
Thanks for this compilation.
I love Jordan P, but I disagreed with nearly 100% of everyone on here. Having been depressed, I do make my own personal happiness paramount in my life's goals. Am I shallow? I don't care. I love my life; I learn something new everyday. I feel that meditation made me deeper. I quit alcohol and look for happiness in meditation. I work out and eat moderately. I try to bring joy to others and have a healthy social life. I read broadly, and listen to Jordan's talks; which, even this one, make me happier.
As someone who has been depressed, I'm sure you know that your relationship and conception of happiness is different from that of people who have never been depressed to that degree.
It's a matter of definition: to a person who has never been depressed, happiness means an abundance or overflowing of positive emotion, almost gaudy in its showiness; to a person who has suffered deeply in the grip of depression, happiness is the simple, quiet, profound comfort of existing in health without being suspended over the the empty horrible hole known as depression.
that is a depressing comment. but only momentarily.
I understand the value of 'forgoing pleasure' so that you can accomplish things. And I do try to have a degree of goal-setting. But I'm with you here. I'm content with my life and don't care if my aspirations aren't as high as someone like a Jordan Peterson would say they ought to be. My argument has always been that we live in the greatest time to have ever been alive in the history of this earth. I would kind of feel ungrateful if I didn't let myself feel contentment over this fact. I like Peterson's perspective on a lot of things, and even value what he has to say regarding this as well. I just go a different path than him and interpret my life in a different manner. It's kind of unfortunate that I don't judge a person with that way of viewing life, but it seems as if they have so many judgments towards people that live like me. Oh well.
xandercorp// you wrote "happiness is the simple, quiet, profound comfort of existing , healthy without being suspended over the empty horrible hole known as depression"... and I say this too shall come to pass, it's comforting to know and believe it will come again, like sunshine after the rain.
Nerian/// you wrote: " we should try to be as happy as we possibly can"
Why? You don't have to feel unhappy because you don't feel happiness.
I feel contentment, but most of all I feel at peace, and that's the closest
you get to feeling joy.
Its always valuable to hear from Jordan Peterson.
The CBC and Ideas--- alas, not so much.
To be fair, Ideas is probably the best the CBC has to offer.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of Ideas.
I just bought the book. Page number xxix brought me here. Thanks.
"You know, happiness for me is a very conformist category. It doesn’t enter the frame. You have a very serious ideological division at the beginning of the famous Proclamation of Independence, you know: “pursuit of happiness”. If there is a point in psychoanalysis, it is that people do not really want or desire happiness. And I think that it is good that it is like that.
For example, let’s be serious: when you are in a creative endeavor, in that wonderful fever -- “my god, I’m onto something!” -- and so on, happiness doesn’t enter it. You are ready to suffer. Radiation scientists were even ready to take into account the possibility that they will die. You know, happiness for me is an *unethical* category."
- Slavoj Zizek
I know that Peterson is anti-marxist, and so would probably not be very interested in talking with Zizek , but I would love to see that meeting of minds . I think without Zizek's willingness to slaughter the sacred cows of the left, I would not find myself listening to Peterson today .
He's open minded, though, so I'm sure he'd be up for a discussion.
Exactly! I thought about Zizek's critique when I saw the title of this video. He's the first one that got me thinking about whether or not happiness is really the ultimate goal we should strive for. Recently, I've been thinking that pleasure is really just natural selection's way of making us do her bidding. We have evolved to find pleasurable things that promote survival and the passing of genes (sex, food, social status) and displeasurable the things that don't (physical damage, abandonment, hunger). However, our ideals often require us to stray away from what evolution had in store for us, and so to live fully and authentically we must be willing to forgo pleasure and bear pain. Which is why I now think that to live the best life possible, one must determine somehow the set of values that matter the most to you and always live according to them.
@@UndrState Hi :) I'm just waving to you all since these viewpoints in a brief discussion you had here aged pretty well.
@@a_l_e_k_sandra - Well I thought so . There was some talk of "owning" one or the other after there talk , but I found it pretty amiable and bridgebuilding.
The cheesy transition music substantially inhibits my happiness.
Eudaimonia, the Greek word that is often translated as happiness, may be (in its ancient context) better translated as human flourishing. You might say that's whatever it is beyond mere survival that makes survival worth it, because just scraping by is probably not enough to keep humans around. "Man does not live on bread alone," and I think that is why we are possibly the only animals who commit suicide. And to flourish one needed virtue, according to many Greek philosophers - only the Stoics thought virtue was all one needed to flourish, since their picture of a sage is of someone who could be indifferent and grateful on the whole despite being thrown into a furnace against his will. But that same flourishing Greek character is not happy in the North American sense of the word. Our sense of it is a lot like what the Greeks would call pleasure (hedone).
Joshua Bryant/// some animals commit suicide just like people.
至乐性余，至静性廉。
seeking to maximize happiness makes the mind stupid. maximising quiet makes the mind honest. - the yellow Emperor hidden talisman classic circa 200+ ad, China
Depth, profundity, differentiation, beauty are what justify suffering, and lead to better things than happiness.
Quite a difference from 'equality and fairness. Yet' Ideas' can't help but push the one, at the expense of the whole premise of the show.
this is powerful !
This turned out to be well worth my time and attention...I almost gave it a thumbs down and started writing a critical comment in response to the woman (sorry I forget her name) in the first segment who was boring me to tears with her shallow ideas and opinions...but she went away, thank God, and the content became increasingly interesting and substantial...I strongly suggest skipping ahead or better yet the video should edit her out
14:10 her response to Peterson was purely unscientific, and Peterson made a distinction between normal conversation (what that woman is partaking in) and a scientific method (what Peterson and the skeptical positive psych guy are talking about). Her entire following response was ironically the opposite of scientific.
as a christian i have Joy from my hope in christ
I think the meaning of life is searching for happiness and pursueing happiness while embracing suffering and darkness. My personal philosophy, is that net result to life is death and everything ultimately will crumble. But, what matters is gaining as much from it. Inherit the flame, embrace the darkness.
The First Lord Death...,is ultimately an illusion. Your consciousness continues; while death is transitional.
Not as engaging as Jordan Petersons lectures. Thought I would give it a try. Jordan has changed my life. I read Crime and Punishment, which also changed my life. I am working through his recommended book list.The goal for me is to make a difference, knowing this will be a big challenge. If I find morsels of joy along the way, then I am blessed but that alone is a very shallow goal.
Lester Bangs Joy is the very antithesis of shallowness. I love JBP but he OVERSTATES the whole suffering trope. Probably because he’s constitutionally depressive.
Aristotle did NOT define happiness that way. In Nichomachean Ethics, happiness is equated with fulfillment. Do what you're made to do, and do it well-that's happiness. His point was that for humans in general, it was a life of moral excellence. This is often inaccurately summarized as "the golden mean." It wasn't about balance, but about hitting the mark: doing the right thing to the right extent at the right time in the right way with the right instruments towards the right goal from the right motivation. There is no necessary golden mean there at all. With courage, as he defined it, that means risking your life for a right cause--not rashly like an animal (one extreme), but deliberate goodness. Cowardice, the other extreme, is not risking your life at all for a good cause. So there's no "neither too hot nor too cold" there. It's "don't be useless or foolish."
does anybody know the last piece of music that was in this video?
These were some of the best ideas from JP. Miss old JP.
25:01 that was profound.
Hi Dr Peterson, Really liked your views on this video.At 51.25 - 51.44 you state that we should work for "the perfection of all that exists" which as a goal that justifies suffering is unbeatable.Could you clarify what you mean by "the perfection of all that exists"? Not sure I understood this point.Many Thanks. Andrew
I love that Peterson is smiling on the picture above. I can't help but suspect that was intended to be ironic.
The piano and the flute makes me haaappyyy
your comment made me chuckle... so that make me happy hehe!!!
Serenity now
LMAO!!!
Insanity later
Ok she says that she is likely to hit that happiness aiming at it directly instead making it as a byproduct of a worthy goal.
The question is: What are those things that she has to do after aiming at that happiness? Aren´t those goals? If they are then happiness is a byproduct of it.
I mean if I am hungry I aim at food not at satisfaction because satisfaction (being full in this case) is a byproduct of a goal (food)
Do I see this right?
Peterson's segment begins around 13:00
Thanks!
'Ben Weeks/// thank God!
12:20
The music? Anyone?
I love this guys voice (the mic guy)! Sorry, I know that doesn't pertain to the talk but man: that's a nice voice.
i lv jordan
Happiness is an emotion.
Emotions are transitional, and temporary.
Becoming obsessed with chasing a temporary emotional fix causes one to thwart the very goal you pursue.
There is a story about a Buddhist monk who while walking in a forest, was chased by a tiger. He ran until coming to a cliff. So, in order to save himself from the tiger, he climbs the cliff.
Half way up the cliff, he looks up to see another tiger waiting for him...
He's trapped between a tiger above and one below, while hanging on a cliff.
He sees nearby, a berry bush, and within reach is a perfect berry.
He eats the berry, and enjoys it's perfection.
Even though he's in a perilous situation, and is aware that he is about to die, he finds contentment in his situation by being grateful to have the opportunity to enjoy life while in the midst of tragedy.
He doesn't resent the fact that he's in the midst of tragedy, but that he's grateful to be alive to experience it.
Great story
Happiness is short lived, so why bother looking for it. It comes or it does not...so what. We should tell ourselves happiness will come again, for a while at least. So when we are unhappy, it's good to know the difference, then appreciate happiness when it comes. If you look for it, it's the most illusive butterfly of all.
@Jordan B Peterson At around 42:00 for about a minute or two, incredibly moving music is played during the talk about humanity as a reflection of god. Do you know by chance what music is playing? Thank you.
Against Adversity (b)
Daryl Griffith
Pursuit of happiness in and of itself, directly, leads to 'drugs and the gutter' for too many; those lost souls who end up haunting hotel lobbies, guest houses and gambling joints. Happiness should be a side effectt of successful, purposeful living!
The problem, I feel, is in thinking of happiness as a persistent, steady state. No such thing. Everything changes, everything flows.
You want to be happy? Start by cleaning your room.
Happiness is a result..... Not a specific destination
People are unhappy because they don’t live their values and simultaneously figure out ways to defeat themselves because there are either too many choices, or not able to see the glass half full.
Video 41:22
Holy BIble:
Proverbs 27:4 Wrath is cruel, and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?
I thought Kermit the Frog had some great points
11:40 - Mindfulness does not = hyper focus. An EMT IS being mindful when he is being "mindless" and flowing with the task at hand - because he doesn't have stray thoughts distracting him. This is a really basic misconception to have as a so called "expert"
God tells Abraham, 'I am thy shield and thy exceedingly great reward". What do you think that means? It means there is no meaning for you me or anything without God. He makes your person, your life, your joys sorrows pains beliefs wants needs, justice, everything have no meaning without Him. Jordan Peterson say's everything is relational to everything. If I was alone would my name mean anything. I do not half to halve a name for myself. When God speaks to a person, does he say hey you? No he say's Adam, Adam, Abraham Abraham. Called by name. Our relationship to God gives to the people who believe in God the ultimate meaning to themselves, their lives, their children, their sufferings, everything.
I don't think life is tragic in it's essence, or is suffering....... That is not the state it has to be, for most people that is the case but doesn't make it so
Suffering is not quite the right word, but it's close enough. The buddhist concept of Dukkha more closely encompasses the idea, I think. Dukkha can be translated as anxiety, distress, frustration, unease, unsatisfactoriness and of course suffering.
"Birth is dukkha, aging is dukkha, illness is dukkha, death is dukkha;
Sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, & despair are dukkha;
Association with the unbeloved is dukkha; separation from the loved is dukkha;
Not getting what is wanted is dukkha."
Glenn グレン in that sense dukha is not necessarily out of one's control......... You don't have to be dukhi if you don't want to be......
Damnation Forsaken How can you choose to not age or die? To not feel pain or hunger? To not lose a loved one? How can you choose to not be born? It's entirely outside our control. The only thing we can control is how we deal it
Glenn グレン you can choose not to be bothered by that............
Damnation Forsaken Easier said than done, but yes. You can also find a purpose in life that makes the suffering irrelevant, devote yourself to something greater than yourself - one just needs to careful about what one devotes oneself to (e.g. any particular ideology or dogmatic religion)
22:00
I'm happy because I'm an extroverted mental case... but then I become depressed in my alone time and fantasize about being homeless for some reason? wtf? lol! But then I start choosing better choices and actions and life gets better again.
Love this guy. His CZcams channel is the best out there. Brilliant guy.
Almost wish I didn't listen the this one though. Most times I hear Mr. Peterson I see him as well. But just listening to him I notice a Kermit the Frogesque quality in his voice. I hope it doesn't ruin his lectures for me.
James Bowers: He has embraced the Kermit the frog comparison people drew. He even called himself a "spokesfrog" in a video. :D
James Bowers if it does? wow.
you should be doing a podcast
oh snap just found it
29:00
It's like when presented with a binary decision (a fork on the road) - take the one on the right. You'll end up going in circles.
Jordan Peterson is definitelly pretty happy person, his lectures seem to give him a damn good dopamine hit ;-) He can't fake it that consistently, and even less believable is that he would try to do so.
It still seems to me that anything that can give meaning in life is, when reduced to bare minimal description, what will make someone, other people, animals, myself... more happy (or call it less suffering, if you want, i see no difference). For example, giving lectures which you know will help some of the students in real life.
Pyroslav x tell wat if he's ready here
I wanted to quit listening while the female lawyer was talking and I'm glad I didn't.
Yeah she was useless but Dr Peterson knows his stuff.
Yeah me too, I really started to wonder where this was going and felt a bit disgusted. But I'm glad the title was so upfront about the video's subject, it made me continue.
Zashura/// yep a bit melancholic I think, I couldn't listen to her voice
Agreed. She did add valid & important points to the discussion
I am so 100% with you i just wanted to quit right now
Ive never understood this notion that you can "find happiness". Perhaps I am misinterpreting this, which is probably the case. To me, happiness cannot be found. Simply due to our standards , or what we consider happiness. In other words, the journey itself really does , or can, make one happy. "Looking for happiness", imo, is pointless. Im sure I did not express my thoughts very clearly on this topic. I often have so much trouble communicating my thoughts.
Why the hell did they start playing music over Jordan talking at around 25:35 ?
That was a horrible decision on their part.
I wanna generate order but instead i lie awake and wonder
I have a question regarding what Jordan said in minute 32: "As soon as you start to talk about the deepest meaning of life we use religious language because it deals with the most profound elements of human being"
Why can't we instead of religious language say "philosophical language" as it also deals very profound elements ?
Someone else would even say mathematical language if we are talking about understanding the world !?
Because we typically say things like “you’re going home now” or “you’re going to a better place” or “I’ll miss you when you’re gone” or “rest in peace”. People even talk about life in memory. We encounter death as a mystery. It doesn’t matter if you were an atheist you’re whole life. Religious people and psychologists and others come to watch its unfolding. The philosopher, Martin Heidegger, discussed the mystery as pure possibility. However, I would challenge Heidegger and say that we experience death as the ultimate possibility, which closed into the ultimate end. As infinite possibilities also makes possible the end of possibilities. The awe and wonder of the world, revealing in one fell swoop. It’s pulling you into what is unknowable to you. We ask ourselves, “what will be my final work or act?”. But man’s final act is death. As Heidegger says, when we are born, we are old enough for death. Death is an act of faith; to lose one’s mind and to win God.
We are all unique so our pathways to happiness and meaning are as different as snowflakes. Advice can be useful but can only take us so far.
What expectations does 'real' human existence place....... And who decides them...... Calling cowardice to the contrary sounds to me like a shaming language
10-30-19 just got my copy of "12 Rules for Life" with remarks about this show.
it seems gretchen rubins book was negated by Jordan xD
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I can understand where people are coming from in objection to enforced happiness, which I agree with them on that considering such a kind of action kind of ignores the feelings one must also learn to cope with...
That said... Don't tell me how to feel, Petee. I'll be happy whenever I fell like it...
It's not easy being green....but it's better than being blue.
Intro voice is Preager's teenage son
If happiness is what you think will countervail against the tragedy of life when you are at your lowest, then may God have mercy on you...
I'm not happy, but I am slap happy. Is it okay to be slap happy?
Did the lady not get the memo? What she was saying seemed so incongruous with the main theme of this talk.
Equal time... You need both points of view.
every story needs an antagonist /s
The assumption that the philosophy of being unaffected by suffering (of self and world) is Necessarily shallow is just wrong.............
We as an lizard sitting in sun won't work......... Well it does..... , i can't see how that statement is presented as a fact, because it's obvious to be that it is incorrect
Living Waters youtube channel
I somewhat disagree with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson... What he believes is better than happiness i.e. order, being responsible, etc. Is actually a part of the manner of happiness. Doing what's right and having faith in God can actually cause anyone to have joy regardless of circumstance.
sounds like a slogan to sell self help books
Never happy? :c
Please please please edit out Grechen Rubin and Todd cashens positive psychology bullshit...only then would I share this video
Happiness is not something to be pursued for your whole life, as happiness is down to perception. Once you learn how to hold a grateful perception of life (i.e. to be happy) you don't need to pursue happiness anymore.
The meaning of life is to live it to the fullest, whatever that means for you personally. Following a call to fulfilment (fulfilment is a mixture of pleasure and responsibility) is what it's all about.
Maybe these thinkers should actually READ Aristotle! SMH
I critique people from the tendency that, I believe, is to stimulate them to be better. I believe that you have to do the work, make mistakes, take your punishment, learn the lesson and then move on. Many stop after the first 2 steps and then repeat.
Everyone sees me as unfriendly or mean.
It's hard to find any place where to be accepted with this kind of attitude so sometimes I take the ignorance path.
I believe there is enough room, so to say, that we all can be happy, but to hell with this faking happiness posers. We can't be all holding hands and singing kumbaya. I really tend to avoid happy posers. Maybe there's something wrong with me.
constrictum fix yourself.
But I guess great buddhists monks like dalai lama and thich nhat hanh talk about happiness because they know life is full of suffering, especially they have witnessed their homeland torn apart by tyrants
I'm happy, because I choose to be!
This guy ranting on about mindfulness around 12:00 has no clue.
Just scroll forward: Jordan P doesn't appear until 22 minutes in.
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Some ended up like granma n some fox lil read.... Go figure!
Happy are those who trust in the Lord.
TheOlzee I guess Jordan Peterson is stupid then huh.
TheOlzee Speak for yourself.
no noo nooo, what's with that pathetic piano and other kinds of music in the background of JP?! he's not a god damn talk show host nor a fortune teller, nor is this a shitty documentary that tries to tell you a bad story in a well packaged way. keep it clear, without these touchy feely fake moments please
Who is this chick who speaks at the beginning and talks with Jordan; her voice couldn't be more annoying, and her points are shallow and banal, imo. Ugh.
Ah, her name is Gretchen, a happiness best-seller, no wonder. LOL
Qimodis shallow: nothing she says is worthwhile intellectually...
Qimodis see? we can do this all day...but it's stupid. Pretty apparent that woman was/is just trying to sell her book. While the others actually have something to say worth hearing. She's probably been on Oprah, though...so that's something. Maybe she knows Gwyneth Paltrow personally?