Seemed as if some AI was overlaying the accent， but it failed to do so for Haryana。 Hey Abbas nice to see u here！ I also listen to ur IVM podcast Has it aged well？
This is the second video from you that am watching (after the Beerbiceps thing with Meghnad). This is a great video because there's space for questions and answers, no shouting, name calling and all. There's a lot more that I would like to convey but for now - thank you. 💜
has to be an NRI, I have been living in Haryana for 24 years and have never heard a man sound like that. let alone hearing, I could not even imagine someone sounding like that here.
I'm watching this video after the communal violence in Nuh has spilt over to rest of Haryana and innocent muslim migrants are forced to abandon their homes by hindu fundamentalists. The ignorance claimed by the speaker with regards to "communal harmony" in his home state is terrifying. Thanks for calling him out!
After listening this talk, as a hindu lower caste person, I am feeling agitated, and angry. But I must accept the fact that this is what most of my Upper Caste Hindu (धर्मो रक्षति रक्षितः) Friends give to me, and to get accepted in the society, I also have to accept this bogus thoughts in front of them.
Vimoh, I think you actually found a BJP supporter who was willing to listen. He even appeared to re-evaluate some of his thoughts- although he could not bring himself to denounce or oppose the ideology. All BJPites I know are loud, dogmatic and unwilling to listen.
They are very eager to show their WhatsApp knowledge! It's like you just push a button and their flood gates open with everything that they have been bombarded over the years!
Physically cringing at the end because of this kid. I am assuming he is a kid because I still hope that rational adults don't think this way. Won't say it to Umar Khalid's family because it's happening to him, you can see it happening to him. But will say it to other Muslims who are getting angry just because of the "poking and making fun". All of that comes under HATE MONGERING. I have felt the shift in attitudes personally. I have had people say it to my face that they hate muslims and all of this behaviour comes from the fact that people who have the ability to stand on a stage and have mics in their hand, they say stuff that can be considered "making fun". Muslims are getting marginalised in the society because of all this. And surely an upper caste won't feel this way because they have never faced it in their life. It's very easy to be "in the centre" and not support anyone when it isn't happening to you.
Your title is misleading. He's not liberal. 🙄🤷♂️😄 Nice debate Vimoh ji. You raised the perfect points, point by point, you made him understand. Wise debate. Thanks. 👍
According to him Haryana is the best state in terms of harmony, development, peace , freedom, women empowerment, education etc😂😂😂 BJP has done some epic brainwashing convincing all these people 😮😢
This video is one month old when I am writing this comment but I would like to know Mr accent’s recent views about communal harmony in his state which is Haryana.
In the deep down all type of religious persons are confused at certain level. But the question is when picking a side, how much rationality and empathy have been applied.
Really appreciated your effort to talk on this casteism candidly (not come shouting youtuber or journalists). Also a person who is daring to ask question (though his personal knowledge is so sufacely) and ready to listen is also equally appreciated. But that guy (questioner) must travel to suburban parts of idea and be an observer for sometime to understand casteism as well as do personal research because what parents taught cannot be believed blindly (they taught exactly that their parents trickle down to them) Read moreand learn more increase clarity. Great.
Amazon is proof that fluency in English and firangi ascent does not mean intelligence or clarity of thought. At least he seems to be polite, politely apathetic.
@@vimoh mm.. yeah! for me it's interesting. I love to explore how different people think and how they came into being the way they are. For Amazon it seems like he had a very comfortable life. It's just my guess though, as hardships do teach us some form of empathy. Still would love to know how he actually came to this conclusion.
I am from Haryana and I have seen both terms of Bhupinder Hooda and Manohar Lal Khattar. There is not an iota of difference in terms of development. It's because economically Haryana is already well to do. What has somewhat changed is clout of Jats has reduced apparently and upper caste who are traditional voters of Bjp feel their influenced has increased. Upper caste is also happy with visible Hindutva, in Haryana where Muslim population is almost negligible Hindutva was never an issue. And with Mewat riots and Jats and Saini's fiisure Bjp has pulled off what it needed to polarise voters in Haryana. Corruption remained same under both parties, which is actually worse, corruption tolerance in Haryana culturally remain high. So overall Bjp is actually worse Congress atleast ensured communal harmony.
When u asked him "will you say that to umar khalid's family?", set the outcome of the discussion. Guys like him -apathetic insenstive and ignorant people we have in our country who will pretend to stay neutral despite their neighborhood burning, until that fire reaches their house, nobody will be left by their side to speak for them
great job vimoh, you simply state the obvious and that becomes the best argument, common sense will always trump ignorance.Never stop, your voice is necessary.
He should say this to the Hindu parishads and all.. That yeah, mughals killed and broke temples but what can we do.. The people he's supporting are holding grudges of 300 years before, from the mughals.. But he's saying others to let it go to the injustice happening now😂.
At 2:04, speaker digressed from the point. Brahmin here, here's how we must approach the answer. The good aspect of a Brahmin (the one defined in the Vedantic schools is study and priesthood. It's a role to be lived and not a privilege one's born with. We turned caste into privilege, Brahmins did it first. The very language we discuss in is not the language of the source material, forget understanding them we all don't even operate in the same ballpark. Punching up eventually became punching down the truth. Because the very foundation human discourse operates on is a lie.
UGH!!! Do any of your callers actually call to listen and learn or just vomit what they think ate genius rhetorical questions n then give up bcoz they've run out of time n mummy is calling them to dinner.
I think he posts on quora too and he goes by the name hrithik(idk exactly) ,and all he does is posts anti muslim and caste based stories lol, just a guess may not be true
why will congress wanna lose the vote share of 80% population (hindus) by favouring muslims? Infact they too are no less, many of their state leaders propogate soft hindutva ! Its just that they are less communal compared to bjp towards minorities (muslims/dalits etc.)
He had some valid points but couldn't articulate it properly. Muslims need to look at their own flaws internally , in no way is Islam perfect, in fact quite the opposite
Amazon is the kind of person who will be chilling in their home while the neighbour’s house is burning
yeah, i mean, yeah
You don't like beer bicep right ?
"Yes"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Moral of story don't trust guy with an accent
Well that's oversimplification. No connection between accent and personality
@@anirudhhattangadi3534 that's why it's a joke parveen mohan reference
Absolutely😂"Amazon" sounded dumb as hell
partially correct, even if its a joke. Having an accent is a privileged position.
@@thepalebluedot4171😆😆😆 daimn so true within 60secs he waa outa sanghi closet
Only explanation that I can think of for this person is that he is "well informed willful negligent privileged person"
The way the dude's accent dropped when he said "Haryana" 😂 7:57
Also the word "opinion"
Yes, because we pronounce ण while those living on the eastern part of India don't have this ण or ळ.
Seemed as if some AI was overlaying the accent， but it failed to do so for Haryana。 Hey Abbas nice to see u here！ I also listen to ur IVM podcast Has it aged well？
Yeah😂😂,
Yes because it would have looked fake if would have said Herwiyena…
But indeed he said it in a proper desi style
He was sounding like a Sanghi, no way he is a liberal
Possibly a troll
EXACTLY!!!! No Left leaning guy would ever call his sources of left leaning news as left leaning. Same as no right wing would.
This guy is living under a rock
This is the second video from you that am watching (after the Beerbiceps thing with Meghnad). This is a great video because there's space for questions and answers, no shouting, name calling and all. There's a lot more that I would like to convey but for now - thank you. 💜
SAME .
hardcore jatt tha
This amazon is not a liberal but a bhakt
+1. Dude is personification of enlightened centrism.
If you think he is a bhakt then you must be very radical liberal. That guy was clearly very understanding.
@@harsh9023 aaeyin
has to be an NRI, I have been living in Haryana for 24 years and have never heard a man sound like that. let alone hearing, I could not even imagine someone sounding like that here.
I'm watching this video after the communal violence in Nuh has spilt over to rest of Haryana and innocent muslim migrants are forced to abandon their homes by hindu fundamentalists. The ignorance claimed by the speaker with regards to "communal harmony" in his home state is terrifying. Thanks for calling him out!
After listening this talk, as a hindu lower caste person, I am feeling agitated, and angry.
But I must accept the fact that this is what most of my Upper Caste Hindu (धर्मो रक्षति रक्षितः) Friends give to me, and to get accepted in the society, I also have to accept this bogus thoughts in front of them.
you aren’t obligqted to, if it’s safe, call them out
The kid is barely able to stitch together a coherent statement
Vimoh, I think you actually found a BJP supporter who was willing to listen. He even appeared to re-evaluate some of his thoughts- although he could not bring himself to denounce or oppose the ideology. All BJPites I know are loud, dogmatic and unwilling to listen.
They are very eager to show their WhatsApp knowledge! It's like you just push a button and their flood gates open with everything that they have been bombarded over the years!
Upper caste showing his true colours..😂😂😂
Physically cringing at the end because of this kid. I am assuming he is a kid because I still hope that rational adults don't think this way. Won't say it to Umar Khalid's family because it's happening to him, you can see it happening to him. But will say it to other Muslims who are getting angry just because of the "poking and making fun". All of that comes under HATE MONGERING. I have felt the shift in attitudes personally. I have had people say it to my face that they hate muslims and all of this behaviour comes from the fact that people who have the ability to stand on a stage and have mics in their hand, they say stuff that can be considered "making fun". Muslims are getting marginalised in the society because of all this. And surely an upper caste won't feel this way because they have never faced it in their life. It's very easy to be "in the centre" and not support anyone when it isn't happening to you.
Sadly, people lack compassion !
Oh my, what a conversation- I am waiting for good part of the caste. Vimoh amazing
Cant believe such a person exists, who understand the problem, but still say leave it. Vimoh has rightly called him "apathetic".
Flag bearers of Merit.
Your title is misleading. He's not liberal. 🙄🤷♂️😄
Nice debate Vimoh ji. You raised the perfect points, point by point, you made him understand. Wise debate.
Thanks. 👍
He's a liberal, the kind of liberalism he believes in is the same liberalism that East India company believed in which was classical liberalism.
ladka fake acsent mein baat kar raha hai 😅
Amazon Bhakt❤😢😮
More than 1000 specific Muslim structures has been demolished in nuh, shops have been destroyed, so yeah this is the communal harmony in Haryana!!
According to him Haryana is the best state in terms of harmony, development, peace , freedom, women empowerment, education etc😂😂😂
BJP has done some epic brainwashing convincing all these people 😮😢
he may have nt travelled withing 50 kms from his home to date ...!!
This video is one month old when I am writing this comment but I would like to know Mr accent’s recent views about communal harmony in his state which is Haryana.
It doesn't matter cuz violence affected his neighbours house not his ( according to him)
Bhakt with an accent.
In the deep down all type of religious persons are confused at certain level. But the question is when picking a side, how much rationality and empathy have been applied.
When was the last time you picked sides using your rationality??
When it comes to survival, it's our instinct that leads.
@@MrAnonymousIndian Today
Everything is bad But don't you think like🥲🤦🤦🤦
Accept good aspect of caste he says. Accent plus caste
this was painful to watch. and if this is the liberal. compare to whom lynchers, urinators.
Thanks vimoh for highlighting this
Thank vimoh for this video. I started cracking lmfao within first 10 second
Really appreciated your effort to talk on this casteism candidly (not come shouting youtuber or journalists). Also a person who is daring to ask question (though his personal knowledge is so sufacely) and ready to listen is also equally appreciated. But that guy (questioner) must travel to suburban parts of idea and be an observer for sometime to understand casteism as well as do personal research because what parents taught cannot be believed blindly (they taught exactly that their parents trickle down to them) Read moreand learn more increase clarity. Great.
Love how calm and understanding you are
🤣😂 The Average "meh" joe
Amazon is proof that fluency in English and firangi ascent does not mean intelligence or clarity of thought. At least he seems to be polite, politely apathetic.
thanks to meghanath that i know about your channel and these videos !! and i think you are doing a great job!!kudos !!
अमेज़न बाबा की बातों का सार ये है की "दूसरे के घर में आग लगी है तो मुझे क्या!"
Glad I witnessed this interesting specimen during the live. No hate. I like that dude and his world views.
His worldview of apathy?
@@vimoh mm.. yeah! for me it's interesting. I love to explore how different people think and how they came into being the way they are. For Amazon it seems like he had a very comfortable life. It's just my guess though, as hardships do teach us some form of empathy. Still would love to know how he actually came to this conclusion.
He is clearly not a liberal. He is a bhakt with an accent.
I am from Haryana and I have seen both terms of Bhupinder Hooda and Manohar Lal Khattar. There is not an iota of difference in terms of development. It's because economically Haryana is already well to do. What has somewhat changed is clout of Jats has reduced apparently and upper caste who are traditional voters of Bjp feel their influenced has increased. Upper caste is also happy with visible Hindutva, in Haryana where Muslim population is almost negligible Hindutva was never an issue. And with Mewat riots and Jats and Saini's fiisure Bjp has pulled off what it needed to polarise voters in Haryana. Corruption remained same under both parties, which is actually worse, corruption tolerance in Haryana culturally remain high. So overall Bjp is actually worse Congress atleast ensured communal harmony.
When u asked him "will you say that to umar khalid's family?", set the outcome of the discussion. Guys like him -apathetic insenstive and ignorant people we have in our country who will pretend to stay neutral despite their neighborhood burning, until that fire reaches their house, nobody will be left by their side to speak for them
"It is true" ×50
much needed channel
great job vimoh, you simply state the obvious and that becomes the best argument, common sense will always trump ignorance.Never stop, your voice is necessary.
What are the good aspects of a caste?
It was so one sided, i once felt it was staged. 😮
This guy is clearly not a 'liberal' when he talks about supremacy of certain sections of the society😂
british accent flex ek minute is it american? Illuminati detected.
keep going
He should say this to the Hindu parishads and all.. That yeah, mughals killed and broke temples but what can we do..
The people he's supporting are holding grudges of 300 years before, from the mughals.. But he's saying others to let it go to the injustice happening now😂.
Victim blaming on another level
Haryana😂, 7:57
But don't you think? This person said but don't you think one too many times
He is so confused that evn a bhakt doesnt...
Dalits don't come under OBC, Dalits come under SC/ST.
He might be a taxidriver in kanedaa😅😅😅
This person is clearly not sure about his stance and is just trying to skip each discuss
7:57 🔥🔥🔥
Woww.......!
@2:30, Scindias fought with the British. So, Kshatriyas fought alright, not for India or the idea of India, but for their own kingdoms :D
in tamilnad muslims vote for mainstream party. there is no muslim voice, there is only unit3d tamil voice
At 2:04, speaker digressed from the point.
Brahmin here, here's how we must approach the answer. The good aspect of a Brahmin (the one defined in the Vedantic schools is study and priesthood. It's a role to be lived and not a privilege one's born with. We turned caste into privilege, Brahmins did it first. The very language we discuss in is not the language of the source material, forget understanding them we all don't even operate in the same ballpark. Punching up eventually became punching down the truth. Because the very foundation human discourse operates on is a lie.
We must also understand the pre vedic traditions or pre Vedic civilizations of bhaarath. Every culture need not start after manthra dhrushtas
2:13 within 2 mins i understood this guy has pure garbage in his head. Hats off to Vimoh for bearing these people.
Jat of hariyana are in general caste but in different they are in obc,what is the reason for this, it is the representation of jat
He the type of guy jiske ghar domestic violence hota hai aur ye baithke dekhta hai
UGH!!! Do any of your callers actually call to listen and learn or just vomit what they think ate genius rhetorical questions n then give up bcoz they've run out of time n mummy is calling them to dinner.
Whats with the accent.
Ye gadha "you know" kr rha hai bas.. aur kuch janta nhi hai
The way he is saying obc/st etc he has gone there to study and took on this pathetic accent
Where do people drop questions for him to talk about? Subreddit or something?
Live stream channel. Link on main page.
Hey vimoh ...... How do you tolerate this kinds of characters calmly? ... Do you own any supernatural power ? Do you consume ayurvedic buti( herbs )?
I liked this guy too, Can I cometime get to debate my ideas too ?
yess ! You can join his live stream
I think he posts on quora too and he goes by the name hrithik(idk exactly) ,and all he does is posts anti muslim and caste based stories lol, just a guess may not be true
Why that accent though?
byproduct of larping online
And the Congress and anti Hindu seculars have not been communal?
why will congress wanna lose the vote share of 80% population (hindus) by favouring muslims? Infact they too are no less, many of their state leaders propogate soft hindutva ! Its just that they are less communal compared to bjp towards minorities (muslims/dalits etc.)
He had some valid points but couldn't articulate it properly. Muslims need to look at their own flaws internally , in no way is Islam perfect, in fact quite the opposite
do u think hinduism is perfect?
@@xboobgenius of course not, it's fu of problems
@@smilinghanuman6785 good to see a hindu who is ready to acknowledge that their religion is as much as problematic as others.
@@xboobgenius I'm an Agnostic but thanks
@@smilinghanuman6785 having a hard time believing that given your pfp is of a hindu deity
Again i am done with this sudo ambedkar bs by this channel....
Is his Hariyana in nyc?